Open letter to Firefly and Birds of Prey fans

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ADAM

Sunday, December 15, 2002 11:51 PM

Dear Firefly and Birds of Prey fans,

Go sit over in the corner with the Farscape fans and learn about an exercise in futility. Maybe you can band together and try to get your crap show that everyone hates back on the air. Nothing like wasting a lot of time to keep a geek busy.

People whine and bitch about "good shows getting canned". Well you know what? Your show sucks. Firefly licks cotton balls. Birds of Prey is inexcusably bad. No one watches your shows because they are no good. WB will not pick up Firefly. UPN will not pick up either. These shows are not good and they failed because often the weeding process of canceling new shows that do poorly really works.

I reiterate. Shut up.

Sincerely,
aDam

HAPLO721

Friday, January 24, 2003 7:59 PM

Yeah, Joe Millionaire and Fear Factor are doing well because they're such high quality shows. No, wait, it's actually because they appeal to stupid, lazy viewers with no brainpower, who apparently constitute the entire Neilsen viewership. Firefly failed because it's too SMART for idiots like you.

ROMAN

Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:16 AM

Wow. A reality check from an idiot. I think I'll have to rethink my life. Moron.

Roman

ADAM

Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:22 AM

Wow my thread, which doesn't nothing wrong but present a point of view which differs from the popular opinion of the board, has been moved to "troll country". How tolerant. Losers.

I hardly see how a show being unpopular makes it good. I mean Pauly Shore's show was unpopular and guess what? That's right it sucked.

Some shows may succeed because of idiots but most of the time when a show tanks fast and hard it's because it's crap.

And Roman thanks for bringing absolutely nothing to the table. Please eat my crap.

HAPLO721

Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:20 AM

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Originally posted by aDam:
Wow my thread, which doesn't nothing wrong but present a point of view which differs from the popular opinion of the board,...

... and insult us, call our show crap, and tell us to shut up...

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Originally posted by aDam:
...has been moved to "troll country". How tolerant. Losers.

It's here because YOU ARE A TROLL! You posted it for the express purpose of inciting animosity. QED.

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Originally posted by aDam:

I hardly see how a show being unpopular makes it good. I mean Pauly Shore's show was unpopular and guess what? That's right it sucked.

So every show that gets axed is automatically crap? Wow, guess this shows how gullible the average viewer really is.

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Some shows may succeed because of idiots...

Some shows succeed because of idiots? Try nearly every show that's premiered in the last 4 years!

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...but most of the time when a show tanks fast and hard it's because it's crap.

Yeah, the original Star Trek was sooo horrible, that's why it got axed...

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And Roman thanks for bringing absolutely nothing to the table. Please eat my crap.

Oooh, and we can tell that this individual's opinion matters in any way because of his sophisticated manner. "Eat my crap," indeed. Shakespeare couldn't have said it better.

ADAM

Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:48 PM

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... and insult us, call our show crap, and tell us to shut up...

You are crying about it uselessly. I'm doing you guys a favour by telling you to shut up but you're all too stupid to listen. At least I had a bit of class about it too. In the two very short replies I got I was called an idiot twice and a moron once. Of course now it's free game.

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It's here because YOU ARE A TROLL! You posted it for the express purpose of inciting animosity. QED.

Wow you're so ejicate! You zall should gets a deegree for all them's fancy wordin'. Your vocabulary is terribly innapropriate for the Internet. I'd say it's innapropriate for pretty much anything but mathematical proofs.

I'm not a troll ass munch. I wrote a letter because I strongly felt this needed to be said to all the crybabies and then felt it would come to better use if I actually did something with it rather than keep it to myself like some loser with their web poetry. Of course now that I've been met with great hostility I'm sure I'll just come off as more of a troll so you can all keep thinking that and bask in your ignorance.

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So every show that gets axed is automatically crap? Wow, guess this shows how gullible the average viewer really is.

You're not listening. For someone who says stuff like QED you sure are stupid. Oh that's right you're just a pretentious piece of shit! What I'm saying is a show getting canceled does not make it good. That's like saying that because an innocent man goes to jail that anyone who ends up in prison is innocent. It's terribly flawed logic.

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Some shows succeed because of idiots? Try nearly every show that's premiered in the last 4 years!

There have been a hand full of good shows. Angel is pretty good. Joss should stick with what works for him I guess. I a few good shows in the past few years have been Even Stevens, Kim Possible, Roswell, Smallville and the Zeta Project. It's not a huge list but that's 4 excellent and one pretty good show which I'm happy with. Sure television has been mostly bad but it's always been that way. A person should never expect to sit in front of good television for 4 hours a day unless they're watching repeats. This isn't due to the fact that everything good gets canceled but because little that's good is made.

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Yeah, the original Star Trek was sooo horrible, that's why it got axed...

Again just because every once and a while a good show gets canceled doesn't mean the mounds of sucky shows that get canceled are worth the sweat off my nut sac. I wish idiots would stop thinking about the original Star Trek.

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Oooh, and we can tell that this individual's opinion matters in any way because of his sophisticated manner. "Eat my crap," indeed. Shakespeare couldn't have said it better.

Sorry I'm not a pretentious asshole who finished sentences with "QED" which is the pretentious equivalent to "0wned!" (note the O spelled with a zero because that's about the level of conversation I'm clocking you at)

I was kidding of course. I'm not sorry at all. If I ever end a sentence with QED I hope someone kills me so bad that I never come back. You know like they did to Firefly.

Anyway this thread was tucked away for a while since it's original posting. I guess the test of time has shown how successfull your geek campaign is doing. I guess when I learn how successfull it was that will really shut me up.

So what channel picked up your ass heap of a show? UPN? They pick up good shows that get canceled. Was your show picked up by UPN?

MILLERNATE

Saturday, January 25, 2003 4:34 PM

Oh goodie, I love these types of threads. It allows me to indulge my "smash them up" side . Ah well, into the fray...

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Well you know what? Your show sucks. Firefly licks cotton balls. Birds of Prey is inexcusably bad. No one watches your shows because they are no good. WB will not pick up Firefly. UPN will not pick up either. These shows are not good and they failed because often the weeding process of canceling new shows that do poorly really works.
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You do realize that you are disagreeing with more people then us, correct? Several critics, most of whom are far more intelligent (and far better writers) than you are thinnk highly of it. This list includes:

Positive Firefly reviews:

Mike Duffy, Detroit Free Press. Archived online at:
http://www.freep.com/entertainment/tvandradio/duf20_20020920.htm .

Ken Tucker, Entertainment Weekly. Archived online at:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/tv/0,6115,355225~3~~,00.html

Robert Bianca, USA Today. Archived online at:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/reviews/2002-09-18-firefly_x.h
tm

Matt Roush, TV Guide. Archive online at:
http://www.tvguide.com/tv/roush/rreview/021104.asp
Terry Morrow, Knoxville News. Archive online at: http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/tv_and_radio/article/0,1406,KNS_357_142700
4,00.html

Steve Murray, Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Archived online at: http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/living/tv/0902/20firefly.html

Chris Wyatt, Cinescape Magazine. Archived online at: http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Television&
action=page&type_id=&cat_id=&obj_id=36248

Patrick Lee, Sci-fi.Com. Archived by http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue282/screen3.html

Matthew Gilbert, A&E Boston Globe Staff. Archived by http://ae.boston.com/tv_radio/packages/fall_tv02/20020920_fall_tv_fire
fly.html

David Bianculli, NY Daily News. Archived Online at: http://www.nydailynews.com/12-20-2002/entertainment/ent_radio/story/44
935p-42298c.html .

Mark Davidziak, Cleveland Plain Dealer. Archived Online at:
http://www.zeal.com/exit.jhtml?cid=10124319&wid=100791445&so=&xr=/cate
gory/preview.jhtml%3Fcid%3D10124319.

Chuck Barney, Contra Costa Time (Contra Costa County in California, I think in the Bay area). Archived Online at:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/bayarea/entertainment/television/4105183.ht
m .

So that's one thing. For another, despite popular opinion, you aren't stupid. You've been very calculating in throwing this little stink bomb at just the right time to maximize annoyance. Good job! I hate you, as I'm sure most who encounter you do, but I can't fault your intelligence. Incidently, some of the most intelligent, well crafted shows in recent years have lasted one year or less such as Robbery/Homicide, Freaks and Geeks, Robert Altman's Gun, Action, The Chronicle, and Strange Luck.

Nathan
"It looks like a great adventure...That's what it is; that's what it feels like. When I saw the pilot, it was really engaging. It was exciting. It was unusual. It threw me off every now and then. I think people will be grabbed by it." - Ron Glass, on the pilot, during an interview with the Indianapolis Star

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JODA

Saturday, January 25, 2003 4:55 PM

Ok, if you dont like the show so much, why must you spend so much time here? Obviously if you think you are more intelligent than us then you would be better off doing more "intelligent" things...

-Joda

HAPLO721

Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:00 PM

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You are crying about it uselessly. I'm doing you guys a favour by telling you to shut up but you're all too stupid to listen. At least I had a bit of class about it too. In the two very short replies I got I was called an idiot twice and a moron once. Of course now it's free game.

How is anything we do hurting you? You obviously came here looking to cause trouble. Now you whine because the fans of the show you insulted are angry at you. Tell me, have you ever walked into an Al-Qaeda camp shouting "USA! USA!"? Because it's the same principle.

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Wow you're so ejicate! You zall should gets a deegree for all them's fancy wordin'. Your vocabulary is terribly innapropriate for the Internet. I'd say it's innapropriate for pretty much anything but mathematical proofs.

And once again, aDam shows just how smart he is with his mastery of the English language. Which, by the way, I'm speaking properly because I actually paid attention in school. Tell me, do you refer to 4th grade as your "senior year?"

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I'm not a troll ass munch. I wrote a letter because I strongly felt this needed to be said to all the crybabies and then felt it would come to better use if I actually did something with it rather than keep it to myself like some loser with their web poetry. Of course now that I've been met with great hostility I'm sure I'll just come off as more of a troll so you can all keep thinking that and bask in your ignorance.

Oooh, "ass munch!" I'm so impressed with the quality of your verbal skills that I'm going to concede the point right here. Wait a second...

Why do you feel this supposed need to put us down? Do you really think we're going to go "Hmmm, somebody is calling us names, I guess that means Firefly is a horrible show and we should abandon it"?

More likely, you're a loser with nothing better to do than make fun of shows you're obviously too dense to understand.

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You're not listening. For someone who says stuff like QED you sure are stupid. Oh that's right you're just a pretentious piece of shit! What I'm saying is a show getting canceled does not make it good. That's like saying that because an innocent man goes to jail that anyone who ends up in prison is innocent. It's terribly flawed logic.

Pretentious POS, huh? Beats being a low-brow ignoramus. And I don't recall making any such blanket statement as "All shows that get cancelled are good." If anything, you've displayed just such fallacious logic by claiming that just because a show gets cancelled, it must be awful and not worth watching.

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There have been a hand full of good shows. Angel is pretty good. Joss should stick with what works for him I guess. I a few good shows in the past few years have been Even Stevens, Kim Possible, Roswell, Smallville and the Zeta Project. It's not a huge list but that's 4 excellent and one pretty good show which I'm happy with. Sure television has been mostly bad but it's always been that way. A person should never expect to sit in front of good television for 4 hours a day unless they're watching repeats. This isn't due to the fact that everything good gets canceled but because little that's good is made.

I don't see any difference of opinion here... I said "almost" every show has been crap. A handful of good shows do not redeem Hollywood-- they just prove that sometimes, despite their best efforts, an actual good show gets on the air. Now let's look at the bottom-feeding crap that's infesting our airwaves:

Blind Date
Fear Factor
Man Vs. Nature
Fastlane
Joe Millionaire
The Bachelorette
The Practice (used to be good)
Bridezillas (WTF?)
American Idol
The new Twilight Zone (GAG! Every one I've seen is hackneyed and predictable.)
Celebrity Mole Hawaii
WWE Smackdown
America's Funniest Home Videos (you can only see a guy get whacked in the balls by a football so many times, then you get sick of it.)

And of course, there's the myriad of crap reality min

ADAM

Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:46 PM

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You do realize that you are disagreeing with more people then us, correct? Several critics, most of whom are far more intelligent (and far better writers) than you are thinnk highly of it. This list includes:

Well obviously I did not believe that the only people who disagree with me are the people of this board. Obviously there is a large fan base for even the crappiest crap.

Example! Tons of people loved "Kung Pow: Enter the Fist" despite that fact that it was the worst movie to come out last year.

This guy gives it a 5 star rating:
http://www.moviesforguys.com/comedy/reviews/kungpow-enterthefist.shtml

This guy criticises the public for not liking the movie much like all you guys have been doing:
http://www.daddymonkey.com/movies/kungpow.html

More senselessly positive reviews:
http://www.ram.org/ramblings/movies/kung_pow_enter_the_fist.html
http://www.hyperion-film.com/phpgate/html/article.php?sid=63
http://www.all-reviews.com/videos-4/kung-pow-enter-fist.htm

The opinion of critics doesn't mean anything. For one thing there are so many critics out there that you could find a mound of them to say anything is good. Critics are also way biased in favour of anything different (ignoring whether or not it's actually good) because they're so tired of seing the same old. Now don't come telling me I'm an idiot for liking only the mainstream because that can't be further from the truth. I simply don't believe something being bizarre is enough to make it good.

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Ok, if you dont like the show so much, why must you spend so much time here?

I don't. How many posts do I have? I don't understand what you're suggesting here. Are you trying to convince me that I actually like the show or what?

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How is anything we do hurting you? You obviously came here looking to cause trouble. Now you whine because the fans of the show you insulted are angry at you. Tell me, have you ever walked into an Al-Qaeda camp shouting "USA! USA!"? Because it's the same principle.

Well I'm simply sick of hearing people go on about campaigns to save dead shows. Let the thing go out with a little class instead of a flaming ball of crap. Your analogy is very flawed. People don't have a problem with the Al-Qaeda because they went poking into their bunker caves. They have a problem with them because of those planes that flew into buildings and killed a bunch of people.

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And once again, aDam shows just how smart he is with his mastery of the English language. Which, by the way, I'm speaking properly because I actually paid attention in school. Tell me, do you refer to 4th grade as your "senior year?"

I don't understand what you're making fun of. Did I make a typo or something? Are you not satisfied with my understanding of QED? I know I can defend against this attack adequately but you're so incoherant that I can't make sense of it.

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And I don't recall making any such blanket statement as "All shows that get cancelled are good." If anything, you've displayed just such fallacious logic by claiming that just because a show gets cancelled, it must be awful and not worth watching.

Pay attention idiot. I never said anything of the sort. I've been quite clear but you're obviously too stupid for my "low brow" level of speach. I guess that makes you look pretty bad since you're the one trying to put me down and it only serves to put you lower.

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Now let's look at the bottom-feeding crap that's infesting our airwaves

As I said most of TV is bad. I'd rather not see Firefly join those ranks.

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I'll bet you do, since Star Trek: TOS is a shining example of what a fresh idea and a fan campaign can accomplish. With that out of our minds, we'd be that much closer to turning into brainless network zombies like you. After all, idiocy loves company.

Saw William Shatner in an interview say that it's nice that people believe that the show was saved because of fan support although that's not what happened at all. I wish people would stop

PHILOMEL

Saturday, January 25, 2003 11:20 PM

Well, I normally don't indulge in this kind of thing, but I'm bored.

The point is, Adam, that if you think the show is crap, no one on this board cares. I'm sure you think you are right and good and wise. I'm equally sure I don't give a damn.

I like this board and I sought it out because I think Firefly is brilliant, the best show I've seen in years, and I'm completely obsessed--and everyone else here more or less agrees that Firefly was a great show. That is, incidentally, and in case you missed it, the point of this board. (Plus, the board's real pretty :-).)

You don't like Firefly. Fine. FYI, no one here is asking you to like it or to stay if you don't. So, go find something you are enthusiastic about, and play there--or, if you plan to stay, find a useful (and tactful) way to contribute. It is, you know (in my opinion) somewhat pathetic to rain on someone else's parade just cuz you can't find your own parade to participate in.

Phil. (still bored)

JONSP

Sunday, January 26, 2003 12:56 AM

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Ok, if you dont like the show so much, why must you spend so much time here?
I don't. How many posts do I have? I don't understand what you're suggesting here. Are you trying to convince me that I actually like the show or what?

No, I think we're all just wondering, if you have so little regard for this show, and so little respect for those who watch it and are trying to get it back on the air, why did you even come here in the first place? And why do you keep coming back to argue your point and defend yourself? You call us geeks and losers, but what kind of loser gets so perturbed over a few people's efforts to save a TV show that he sits down and spends time composing a nasty little letter to them, then posts it on their discussion boards, then comes back to argue his points and defend himelf? That's just pathetic. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but I think an intelligent adult would have something better to do with his time. You know you're not going to change our opinions of Firefly (or BoP, for the BoP fans) or throw a wet blanket over our efforts to get our shows back on the air, so we just wonder, what the hell are you really doing here?

I know, I know, you just wanted to state your innocent little opinion -- "present a point of view which differs from the popular opinion of the board."

Oh bullshit. Go back and read your first post. You offer no intelligent criticism and show no consideration or respect for people whose opinions or tastes differ from yours. "At least I had a bit of class about it too"? No. You showed no class whatsoever. Your first post was just nasty, mean-spirited, and ignorant. And you wonder why people reacted the way they did? Here's a clue: it's because you were acting like a jackass!

So when HAPLO says ...

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Tell me, have you ever walked into an Al-Qaeda camp shouting "USA! USA!"? Because it's the same principle.

... yeah, the analogy basically works. You didn't come to actually say anything, you just came in throwing around insults.

Now I have a bad habit of giving people much more credit than they deserve, so I'm willing to believe that maybe you do have some intelligent reason for coming here, and maybe, buried somewhere in your sniping, is a scrap of something genuine and rational. But so far, you just sound like a dickhead: either a flat-out moron or just a sad little loser whose greatest sense of accomplishment in life comes from posting childish notes on sci-fi fans' Internet sites. Okay, so you're ...

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simply sick of hearing people go on about campaigns to save dead shows.

... well, great! That might actually be worth talking about. So just say it. But show at least a bit of respect for the people you're talking to. Guess what, it's actually possible that someone who's just as smart as you are (or maybe even smarter) will disagree with you.

KAYTHRYN

Sunday, January 26, 2003 1:10 AM

PHILOMEL,
Thank you for stating what probably everyone here was thinking! ADAM, life too short to sit around making fun of people who like a show that you didn't like. It's pointless.

ADAM

Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:21 PM

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So, go find something you are enthusiastic about, and play there--or, if you plan to stay, find a useful (and tactful) way to contribute.

What makes you think I don't? From where do people get this idea that just because I'm voicing my distaste for something that it takes a considerable portion of my day to do so?

The following all address the exact same issue so there is no need to reply to them:

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pathetic to rain on someone else's parade just cuz you can't find your own parade to participate in.

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if you have so little regard for this show, and so little respect for those who watch it and are trying to get it back on the air, why did you even come here in the first place?

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what kind of loser gets so perturbed over a few people's efforts to save a TV show that he sits down and spends time composing a nasty little letter to them, then posts it on their discussion boards, then comes back to argue his points and defend himelf?

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I think an intelligent adult would have something better to do with his time.

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a sad little loser whose greatest sense of accomplishment in life comes from posting childish notes on sci-fi fans' Internet sites.

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Thank you for stating what probably everyone here was thinking! ADAM, life too short to sit around making fun of people who like a show that you didn't like. It's pointless.

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Go post something constructive on a site for a show you LIKE instead of coming here and pissing everyone off.

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You know you're not going to change our opinions of Firefly (or BoP, for the BoP fans) or throw a wet blanket over our efforts to get our shows back on the air, so we just wonder, what the hell are you really doing here?

Yeah. Too bad you're all too stupid. I have to try to do the right thing though.

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You offer no intelligent criticism and show no consideration or respect for people whose opinions or tastes differ from yours.

I never said I wanted you guys out of my neighbourhood. I said I was sick of the crying.

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Your first post was just nasty, mean-spirited, and ignorant.

Ignorant? No. I'm afraid it was quite informed.

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Guess what, it's actually possible that someone who's just as smart as you are (or maybe even smarter) will disagree with you.

Sure. There's no accounting for horrible taste. I haven't encountered any such people though.

TYLOR

Monday, January 27, 2003 2:47 AM

Why are people responding to such an obvious troll?

JONSP

Saturday, February 1, 2003 7:40 AM

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Why are people responding to such an obvious troll?

Boredom mostly. Without Firefly, we all have an extra hour every week, so we've got to find something to amuse ourselves. So we find ourselves a troll and yank its chain a bit. Toss it into the troll pit, poke it with sticks and laugh as it dances about, flabby buttocks jiggling, snorting and snarling and thinking itself quite ferocious.

Of course this assumes that aDam has flabby buttocks. He does seem the type somehow, doesn't he?

ARKADY

Wednesday, February 5, 2003 5:47 AM

a few good shows in the past few years have been Even Stevens, Kim Possible, ............

Ok, I wandered over to troll country and read the "letter" and the replies, and my only question is: Adam, how OLD are you???? I mean, "Even Stevens, Kim Possible"??? You do realize these are KID shows. Maybe that's the problem, Firefly is for the grown-ups, you'll have to wait till you grow up to watch it. (Or even understand it apparently)

Arkady

ADAM

Wednesday, February 5, 2003 1:15 PM

24. Why must you label shows? There are only two kinds of shows in my book. Good shows and bad shows. Humour has no age limit.

HAPLO721

Wednesday, February 5, 2003 9:34 PM

Adam posted without insulting the show or its fans! Maybe there's hope for him yet.

I never thought it'd happen, but I have to agree with you. Although I've never seen either of the above-mentioned shows, I know that plenty of "kiddie" shows actually have elements that adults can appreciate. Witness Sesame Street's clever insertion of jokes and characters that no pre-elementary-school-age kid will understand.

Early: You ever been raped, Kaylee?
Kaylee: You know, it's funny you should mention that... ever heard of the Fox network?

ARKADY

Thursday, February 6, 2003 3:19 AM

Ok, I spoke without fully thinking about it, I stand corrected. (I also remember the Sesame Street jokes and I am an avid Bugs Bunny fan)

Arkady

TRAGICSTORY

Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:20 PM

You're 24 and you watch Even Stevens and Kim Possible? *snicker* What makes those shows "good shows"? Why do yo enjoy watching them?

"Societies are supported by human activity, therefore they are constantly threatened by the human facts of self-intrest and stupidity." --Peter Berger

ADAM

Monday, March 17, 2003 1:39 AM

They're good because they're really funny. They're good just because they're really good shows. They're not retarded like Firefly. These shows make me happy and bring a smile to my face when I watch them. They bring me great joy and somehow I think that's a good thing. Maybe I just don't get it.

KAYTHRYN

Monday, March 17, 2003 2:02 AM

Before Firefly fans tempers flare, I’d just like to say a few things in regards to Adams post.
1.) Whatever shows float your boat, go ahead and watch. If it brings joy and no pain, go right ahead. I’ve loved a few movies in my times that people plainly hated.
2.) Adam, calling someone retarded for liking one type of show is unsubstantiated.
3.) Saying a show is good because it’s really good - not a valid reason. ( Personally, I don’t think people need reasons unless they plan to argue the point. )
4.) And I’m trying to remember what my fourth things was... Okay, maybe there wasn’t a fourth thing...Uh...Make love not war! That sounds good.

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Jayne: Hey, I didn't fight in no war. Best of luck, though.

ADAM

Monday, March 17, 2003 2:10 AM

1 - Thank you.
2 - Although I'm not above calling the fans retards in this case I was refering to the show itself as being retarded
3 - Well I did say funny in both cases. It may be subjective but that's a quality of the show. You can't measure greatness imperically which is pretty much what this argument is going to boil down to. "I like it!" "I hate it!" yada yada...
4 - Good philosophy

KAYTHRYN

Monday, March 17, 2003 2:23 AM

Thank you Adam, it is a good philosophy. But here’s what I don’t get then- why are we even arguing? If it all boils down to “I like it!” and “I don’t like it!” why even argue? A persons own personal preference toward a certain show, or a distaste towards another show is a persons choice. At least in this case no harm is done either way so why does it matter? Its not like we are arguing over a persons preference or right to beat little bitty babies, we are simply talking about a show. It is strangely mind boggling at times. I am a die hard Firefly fan, and ultimate disliker or reality shows, but with all of the intelligent people on this site it seems like we should be arguing over ways to end world hunger or some such. (It would then be endworldhungerfans.net but you get my drift) This arguement is more interesting at the moment, but it seems useless.

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Jayne: Hey, I didn't fight in no war. Best of luck, though.

ADAM

Monday, March 17, 2003 2:29 AM

I guess when I made this post I was just pissed off and tired of hearing about it and by now it's been so long I just don't really care anymore so let's all watch what we like and have a good time!

KAYTHRYN

Monday, March 17, 2003 2:55 AM

Hallelujah! Adam I’d buy you a drink if I could.

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Jayne: Hey, I didn't fight in no war. Best of luck, though.

CALHOUN

Tuesday, February 3, 2004 11:45 AM

Adam, I'm thinking you werent burdened with an overabundance of schooling so lets just ignore each other till we go away.

KNIBBLET

Tuesday, February 3, 2004 5:24 PM

tee hee, flabby buttocks. Thank you for making me snort in laughter.

Between work, school, dance, life and dogs, I have four hours of TV I can enjoy. Firefly was a wonderful series and one of the few that could hold my attention and stir my imagination.

I'm holding out hope for the movie.

Knibblet of the Methos Harem. Starkist MacStar of the Clan MacStar (seasons 2 thru 5 of Highlander rocked!)

LTNOWIS

Wednesday, February 4, 2004 2:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by aDam:
Wow my thread, which doesn't nothing wrong but present a point of view which differs from the popular opinion of the board, has been moved to "troll country". How tolerant. Losers.

In America this process is called "democracy". When the vast majority of people in a locale want something done, it gets done!

Oh yeah, and just because you don't like something, it isn't neccesarily bad. My rule is never to say art/media is bad, or of low quality. It can be offensive, evil, or lowbrow, but never crappy or lousy.

LTNOWIS

Wednesday, February 4, 2004 2:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by aDam:
24. Why must you label shows? There are only two kinds of shows in my book. Good shows and bad shows. Humour has no age limit.

I gotta go with the moron on this one. I'm 14, and I still watch Jackie Chan Adventures and Static Shock.

Though Adam does seem to be burdened by an overabundance of schoolin.'

SPACEANGLER

Friday, February 6, 2004 1:34 AM

La la la, testing my new stuff, all this thread's good for....

--------------------------------------------
Spike: We all have addictions, Angel. I believe yours is called 'Slutty the Vampire Slayer.'

LTNOWIS

Friday, February 6, 2004 1:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Tylor:
Why are people responding to such an obvious troll?

For the same reason Mal punched Atherton Wing.

SERENITYNOW

Wednesday, February 18, 2004 2:02 PM

Yes, I was just thinking that it resembled some sort of primitive mating ritual--you know, where the men would butt heads like deer? They just had an article about ancient humans who had helmet-like skulls, presumably so they could do that.

Good to see the classics revived in a new form.

http://dryope.typepad.com/superfly/

TEELABROWN

Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:44 AM

Okay, glad to see this died down.

First point:

If a show is put in the "death-slot", no matter how good or bad it is, is bound to fail. I am an avid Browncoat, but I know this is the reason. It breaks my heart, but I have mended it, so here I am.

Second point:

If a person feels to express their displeasure with the show, they can say all they want. But, in a place such as this, which is deticated to the show, it;s not such a good idea. But, hey! he can if he wants.

_____________
"Freedom is the Freedom to say that 2+2 makes 4. If that is granted, all else follws"-Winston, 1984
Teela Brown, keeper of bad typing.
"No one reads these things any way."- Bart on Blackboard

GNOC

Friday, March 12, 2004 10:40 PM

I am new here and see this thread is really old. Not wanting to start a flame war.. but where is adam now? I suggest for naysayers, go to Amazon.com and read the comments about the dvd sets. From many people, like myself, who have found and fell lin love with this series. over 700 comments, with an average of 5 star ratings. That is amazing.

LISSA

Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:50 AM

i gotta say, it's pretty funny that long ago adam told us out efforts were useless, and now we're getting a movie! yay us:)

~lissa, spwhore

GNOC

Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by lissa:
i gotta say, it's pretty funny that long ago adam told us out efforts were useless, and now we're getting a movie! yay us:)

~lissa, spwhore

Plus, the fan base has multiplied greatly. I am living proof.

BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:00 PM

I wonder where Adam is now that the DVD set is out, and in little over 3 months has sold well over 200,000 copies in region 1 alone. When Region 2 is available in April, I imagine the number of sold sets will approach 350,000. Doesn't sound like a "bad show" to me.

Then there is the news of the movie coming out next year as well. Wonder how many of his so called "bad shows" can claim all of the things that Firefly can? Not so many I am guessing.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

MACBAKER

Monday, May 10, 2004 1:06 AM

Adam, facts speak louder than your lame attempts at flame bait. If the show is so bad and compares to Birds of Prey, why are there so many Firefly fans and fan based sites, and so few BOP fan sites? Why is Firefly one of the best selling DVD box sets ever released? Why is Universal Pictures giving Joss 50 million to make this "failed" series into a movie?

I'm old enough to remember jerks like you, condemning original series Trek fans for loving a show that was canceled after only 3 years. After 10 movies and four spin off series, those detractors have been shown for the short sighted fools that they were. Time will prove you equally wrong.

Every person has the right to be stupid Adam, but you're abusing the privilege. Now go away and ponder something more your speed, like why girls won't talk to you.

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

ADAM

Monday, May 10, 2004 3:25 AM

You stupid bastard. "Now go away and ponder something more your speed"? You dare speak to me of stupidity when your reply asking me to leave is the very thing that brings me, who hasn't posted in this thread in well over a year, back here. I said up there I was 24 and this is such an old thread that I'm 26 now. I don't ever think about your pathetic little turd of a show and especially not about this lame ass board but now that you've relpied I get the e-mail notification and it, caused by you, brings me back.

Movie? I'll believe that crap when I see it. Talk of a movie is cheap. And of course you stupid bastards bitching about it isn't making a difference in a movie being made one way or the other. You are meaningless.

Why is it selling well on DVD? "Well" is obviously very relative. It is selling somwhate because all you stupid bastard geek cult losers love to love crap that people hate. But people hate it 'cause it sucks and so you love to hate crap that sucks.

Quote:
I'm old enough to remember jerks like you, condemning original series Trek fans for loving a show that was canceled after only 3 years. After 10 movies and four spin off series, those detractors have been shown for the short sighted fools that they were. Time will prove you equally wrong.

Oh sweet Jesus how I would love to put this in a time capsule and show it to you in 10 years when Firefly is as forgotten as Paula Poundstone's show. Congratulations for being really old. You've really made it and you're totally living the dream of razzing some guy on Internet over some weak sauce garbage show no one but a load of geeks care about. To compare Firefly to Star Trek is just beyond retarded. That had been on for years while this was canceled early in it's first. This hasn't come back and won't because no one cares. This thread has been here over a year and the show's not coming back. Time truly has proven that. I don't know how much longer you need to wait before admiting it's dead dead dead. Apparently there's no reasoning with you.

Your fan base is growing? Wow! Where else did it have to go? It was practically non existant.

You know what? None of this matters because the bottom line is you guys are all wasting your time liking a crappy show that's deader than Elvis on a bowl full of Firefly fans.

MACBAKER

Monday, May 10, 2004 5:30 AM

Yeah, I dare! Ewwww, you're so tough! You don't read the news much do you punk? Serenity (that's the name of the movie, in case you missed it) is already in preproduction, the cast and crew hired, and filming will begin in just a few weeks! It's going to happen, so store this message in your little time capsule, and a year from now you can open it the night the movie premieres!

Funny how you picked Elvis to compare with Firefly. His record sales are better than ever. Not bad for a dead guy! Could you be any dumber? Wait, don't bother trying to answer that. I'll do it for you! YES, but there's nothing wrong with you that couldn't be cured with some Prozac and a polo mallet! Moron!

BTW: Other news you might have missed while living in your parent's basement; there's a war going on over in Iraq, and there's a perfect new show for losers like you, the Nick and Jessica Variety Hour! Enjoy!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

ADAM

Monday, May 10, 2004 9:00 PM

I'm not saying there won't be a movie. I'm saying I'll believe it when I see it because I don't currently have any reason to believe such a futile effort will follow through. Lots of movies make it to preproduction and don't get made. And if by some mistake it does get made I can guarantee you it won't be released in theatres like such gems based on lame shows as the X-Files movie. And by that I mean an actual full release. Not some geek festival in Joss's basement. Non theatre released movies are easy to make. I could make one. I have made one. It had no sound and it was a 12th grade French class project. I'm saying the Firefly movie will not get a general theatrical release and if I'm wrong then you can kick me in the nuts.

This movie thing has nothing to do with the time capsule. The time capsule is to prove that Firefly will be the next Star Trek. If that happens I will take my own life.

Now I'm not about to argue that Elvis is not still profiteable but to even suggest that he is now selling more records than ever is a bit retarded. It's like saying Firefly's ratings are now better than ever after it's canceled. 5 may be a lot of people to be watching a canceled show when considering there were 13 viewers when it was new but 5 isn't bigger than 13.

And don't go bringing up the war in Iraq as if someone who's not hip to the new of a movie based on a failure of a show canceled before it's 13th episode is in any way out of the loop.

MACBAKER

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:05 AM

We'll see ya next year, when the movie is in wide release. Universal doesn't spend 50 million dollars on a movie, just so Joss can show it in his basement! LMAO! Nice attempt to save face, but you must know that next year the movie will be out, and the chances are very good that Universal will make a good return on their investment. The fact is, we already won. The DVD sales alone support that Firefly shouldn't have been canceled, and those numbers were more than enough to convice Universal to buy the property from Fox and give it a decent budget to make it into a movie. You lose! We'll check back here next year to see if you have the guts to admit you were wrong, when box office sales prove you wrong once again.

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

ADAM

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:54 AM

Universal will not spend 50 million on a Firefly movie. They wouldn't spend that much on a movie they don't give a general release, sure. That doesn't mean they'll give Firefly a general release because they won't pour that much money into it.

I have always made a promise to drink an entire bottle of salad dressing if this movie gets a general release. By that I mean most theatres like over 90% of the movies that are in the top 10 grossing movies of any given week.

I have never had any problem admitting I was wrong when I was wrong. I'm not wrong though. I'm not an idiot. If I'm wrong I'll eat my words and more and I am confident in saying this because I won't be. Luckily this will all be proven sooner or later.

See you next year.

MACBAKER

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by aDam:
Universal will not spend 50 million on a Firefly movie.
.

You lose again.

1. The original budget of 35million, was just raised to 50million (that's US dollars) for Serenity.

2. The sets have been built, and one of the largest prop houses in L.A., The Hand Prop Room, is currently building props and weapons for the movie.

3. Zoic Studios has been contracted to create the visual effects for the movie.

These are all published facts! No Studio would spend that kind of money, and not give the movie a wide release! To do so, would be dumber than you are being, by not admitting to the facts! The movie is a fact, it comes out next summer! See you next year. Hope you like guzzling salad dressing! I'll be happy to send you a case! LMAO!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

CAPTAINCDC

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:22 PM

I'm trying to keep track of all the things adam is going to do when Serenity is a hit in WIDE release:
- let us kick him in the nuts
- kill himself
- drink an entire bottle of salad dressing
- eat his words
Am I missing anything? This guy better be under 24 hour suicide watch if someone tells him that Universal sees Serenity as a possible trilogy franchise.

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

ADAM

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:58 PM

I'm not seeing where I said I'd kill myself. Please back that up. I said I would kill myself if Firefly became the next Star Trek. Please call me when it is renewed for 3 more seasons, spawns 3 seperetate series of 7 seasons each (and then another that doesn't have long) and 10 movies not to mention the crazy conventions.

TEELABROWN

Monday, May 24, 2004 5:13 PM

Man, this is flaring up again. People are entitled to certain things. Of course, some of this may be taken for slander/liabel (Spelling?). But hey, I'll just let him talk. Cause there's nothing we can do to shut him up, and nothing he can do to shut us up. Well, there is, but it's complicated.

Firefly is a very well done show, in my opinion. Adam's is different. He thinks it sucks. Let him think that, we don't have a totalarian government set up yet (I'm working on it!), so we don't have thought police. Yet. So, just let him rant, and ignore him. I didn't read any of the newer posts, cause I know what they say.

_____________
"Freedom is the Freedom to say that 2 plus 2 make 4. If that is granted, all else follws"-Winston, 1984
Teela Brown, keeper of bad typing.
"No one reads these things any way."- Bart on Blackboard

SOUTHERNSLAYER

Monday, May 24, 2004 5:27 PM

Enjoy your salad dressing Adam.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

ADAM

Friday, May 28, 2004 9:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TeelaBrown:
Of course, some of this may be taken for slander/liabel

That's the stupidest thing I've read on Internet all month. Thank you.

CROBE

Friday, May 28, 2004 11:59 PM

new here so please be kind...

I am in the UK, and watched the whole of Firefly on dvd over the past week (I believe it is just starting to be shown here on one of the satellite channels - not one owned by News Int/Fox of course)

I bought the DVD set because it was Joss Wheedon, and I thought it would be ideal for light entertainment, while working away abroad.

It is a bit hard to get into, and after the first episode I nearly didn't bother looking at the others - I think they tried to cram too much into it to sell it as a pilot show.

The concept of every planet looking like dodge city may appeal to the US audience, but does not ring true over here - I think the Wild Wild West film from Will Smith flopped too.

I persevered and got into it, due mostly to the characters and I'm glad to hear there could be a film coming up, or possibly a return of the series, I think there is still a lot of scope in the characters and I would like to see this explored.

maybe aDam just did not get past the first couple of episodes - or maybe he really is just a dickhead.

ADAM

Saturday, May 29, 2004 12:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by crobe:
maybe aDam just did not get past the first couple of episodes - or maybe he really is just a dickhead.

Both actually. But your show still sucks.

TEELABROWN

Saturday, May 29, 2004 3:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by aDam:
Quote:
Originally posted by TeelaBrown:
Of course, some of this may be taken for slander/liabel
That's the stupidest thing I've read on Internet all month. Thank you.

Okay, Teela's confused. Thanking me for saying something stupid? I was refering to someone else, not you. Eh, whatever works.

_____________
"Freedom is the Freedom to say that 2 plus 2 make 4. If that is granted, all else follows"-Winston, 1984
Teela Brown, keeper of bad typing.
"No one reads these things any way."- Bart on Blackboard

ADAM

Saturday, May 29, 2004 6:06 AM

If you were refering to anyone but me then I can only deduce that you're very confused. Either way your comment still wins this month's award. Excessive stupidity amuses me and that is why I thank you.

TEELABROWN

Saturday, May 29, 2004 1:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by aDam:
If you were refering to anyone but me then I can only deduce that you're very confused. Either way your comment still wins this month's award. Excessive stupidity amuses me and that is why I thank you.

Okay, I'll take that as a compliment. I won't explain, I'll confuse people. I'm not fully awake, which is probably why it was stupid.

_____________
"Freedom is the Freedom to say that 2 plus 2 make 4. If that is granted, all else follows"-Winston, 1984
Teela Brown, keeper of bad typing.
"No one reads these things any way."- Bart on Blackboard

KOHAN

Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:17 AM

fun times, fun times

"
You know, they say mercy is the mark of a great man.

Guess I'm just a good man.

Well, I'm all right.
"

DBLADE

Friday, July 2, 2004 5:50 AM

It's kind of nice to have a pet troll to feed every once and awhile.

I just think its funny that Adam mentions an "exercise in futility" and links Firefly fans with Farscapers in his original post. Let's see what's going on...

Firefly is being released as a motion picture.
A new Farscape mini-series continuing the story of Moya and crew is being made.

Poor delusional fans. How could we ever think our support could even have an impact?

Friendly Neighborhood Browncoat
Daryl B.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, October 6, 2004 3:34 AM

We got our Big Damn Movie, thanks in large part to fantastic DVD sales with virtually NO advertising. Can you say $$ machine? Go take your bitter, reality show watching, t.v dinner munching, Paris Hilton worshiping worthless self and go stand in line for the next audition for American Idol.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

BROWNCOAT1

Wednesday, October 6, 2004 7:06 PM

You know what is really sad? Look at Adam the Troll's profile:

Member Since: Sunday, December 15, 2002 13:17
Last Visited: Saturday, May 29, 2004 09:05

For someone who thought this show sucked, he sure stuck around long enough to see what was going on.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

CAITE

Monday, December 13, 2004 9:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by aDam:
I'm not seeing where I said I'd kill myself. Please back that up. I said I would kill myself if Firefly became the next Star Trek. Please call me when it is renewed for 3 more seasons, spawns 3 seperetate series of 7 seasons each (and then another that doesn't have long) and 10 movies not to mention the crazy conventions.

Hey Adam, might I make a small suggestion? If you're going to try and convince a bunch of people who like something that they shouldn't, you might want to try proper spelling and grammar. It tends to make a person more credible. Not that we'd listen anyways, but for future reference you might want to try it

~Caite
"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

ADAM

Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Caite:
Quote:
Originally posted by aDam:
I'm not seeing where I said I'd kill myself. Please back that up. I said I would kill myself if Firefly became the next Star Trek. Please call me when it is renewed for 3 more seasons, spawns 3 seperetate series of 7 seasons each (and then another that doesn't have long) and 10 movies not to mention the crazy conventions.

Hey Adam, might I make a small suggestion? If you're going to try and convince a bunch of people who like something that they shouldn't, you might want to try proper spelling and grammar. It tends to make a person more credible. Not that we'd listen anyways, but for future reference you might want to try it

~Caite

You pathetic waste of flesh. I've tried to be civil to some of you losers but you're just the kind of digusting filth I'd love to peel off my bumper. Bitching about spelling? Really? Must you be in such a rush to act just like the rest of your wannabe scholar loser sci fi fan super geek loser buddies?

Please outline exactly what spelling errors there are in that passage? All that really jumps out at me is "seperetate" which is obviously more of a typo than a genuine spelling error. If you don't understand this you are the stupidest kind of idiot and have no place attempting to show your intellectual superiority by putting me down for something so futile and irrelevant to the point I'm trying to make.

Now proceed to do the expected and point out some miniscule mistake I have in this post because that's obviously the only thing you can possibly come up with that can disagree with anything I say.

You lose. You lose at Internet. You lose at life. You are the ultimate in losing losers. Die alone but be glad at least you're doing it with proper spelling.

http://adamrulz.com/beef/jul2002.html

Quote:
Is there anything on this planet more annoying and loathsome than a spelling bitch? You all know them. You're out on a message board and you're arguing with some dumb fuck that thinks gun sales help feed orphans and then you say something like "Tanks for proving my point..." and they shoot back with "LOL!! *grin* Tanks? I thought you said guns were bad and now you like TANKS?!! LOL!!!!" Jizz ass! I'm sorry but when someone retorts with nothing but a shot at your spelling than I can only make the simple assumption that they have conceded and see absolutely no fault in the actual arguments that are being presented.

I mean big fucking deal! You're not doing me a great service by showing me the light. Oh my fucking God! There are people with bad spelling on the Internet?! Thanks for the amazing service! Tearing some guy a new asshole because he accidentally wrote "Your in big trouble now" You're not better than anyone for spotting that. Why most of the time I catch many spelling mistakes when I read over my own stuff just because I don't stop to reread. Who's the loser? The guy who writes something and gets it over with or the guy who spends all his time double and triple chelling not only their own stuff but going through someone else's stuff with a fine toothed comb looking for flaws in spelling, and therefore faults in their own worth, so often that they never get anything said. You want me to use a fucking spell cheller? What so I can chell shit I'm posting on a message board? Can you understand what I'm trying to say when it comes out "Looking fro trouble" because if you genuinely can't than the bigger moron here isn't the one who didn't catch the typo but rather the one who can't wrap his mind around this brain racking puzzle. If you really thought I was talking about some black guy's hair then maybe you should get off the Internet before you wind up thinking that your friend "has a stomach ache because he drank 2 litres of cock".

So yeah there are a lot of people out there. Some are kids that are what, 8 years old? I remember when I was 8 years old and I played with a typewriter. It took me about an hour to hammer out a sentence. So if someone needs to save

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GAVIDA

Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:08 AM

Dear Adam,

reading your posts gave me a hint that you are suppress a certain amount of anger.

The rather vulgar style of your posts indicates this.
I am sorry that you are not happy with your life and need the internet and the fanboard of a show you do not even like to vent this anger that rages within you.

I really wish you all the best and hope that your life will become more enjoyable in the future, so that you do not feel the need anymore to pretend to be a "tough" and "cool" person by using salacities in your way of expression.

Maybe you can find some useful information and/or help here:
http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/anger.html

Good luck for your future life.

Keep flying,

Gavida

PS: Just to make sure: English is not my native language so errors in spelling and grammar might occur.

BROWNCOAT1

Monday, December 20, 2004 4:43 PM

And two years later he is still coming to a fan site of a show he claims to hate.

Sad. Truly a troll of the first order.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Meet Up:
http://firefly.meetup.com/9/boards/

CAITE

Thursday, December 23, 2004 7:10 AM

I know, he keeps coming back for more...you've got to wonder about someone like that.

My friend's band has a message board, and they just got their first troll. I totally thought of Adam when I read the post!

DBLADE

Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:56 PM

Adam is one persistent little troll. I must agree about his take on spelling correctors, though. Attacking a person's grammar and spelling on the internet is a silly and annoying ploy. It adds nothing to the discussion and smacks of self-righteousness. With that said, Adam is one tangled psyche. I wonder if he actually hates Firefly or if he just gets his kicks from stirring up trouble. That's okay. I do enjoy a ranting lunatic now and then. I'm glad Fireflyfans set up this little zoo (Troll Country) for the real fans to poke sticks at the funny little knuckleheads.

Whose the funny little troll? You're the funny little troll. Yes you are.

CAPNRAHN

Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:25 PM

I wonder what type of salad dressing he prefers?

Also I request a avi/mov {or whatever} of him guzzling the dressing after Serenity premiers!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

DIRTYBROWNCOAT

Friday, January 7, 2005 12:11 AM

Two years later is good. :)

It means I get to have my piece.

The fact is, aDam, what you are doing here, by coming in and insulting people who are disscussing things that interest them, is not "the right thing." What you are doing is insulting and degrading.

As much as you say your first post here was valid and intelligent, it wasn't. Maybe you should go back and read it. It was full of you insulting us unprovoked, just because you aren't a fan. Don't like the show? Don't like ANYTHING we discuss here? Fine. I'm not going to sit here and tell you you're not intelligent or you can't comprehend it, because that's not necassarily the case. If you don't like the show, that's fine and I'm sure you have perfect reasons for feeling the way you do. But the fact is, we DO like it, so you really have no place to come in here and tell us what we SHOULD be doing.

In your initial post, you told us to stop crying because our show was cancelled, and that doing things like petitioning, sending letters, and donating would ever work.

Take a look at Roswell. Who was that that got it back on the air?

Fans.

Take a look at Angel. It didn't get renewed, but who was it that gave such an outcry at it's sudden cancellation that every media in the country sat up and took note?

Fans.

Quote:
Originally posted by aDam:
Dear Firefly and Birds of Prey fans,

Go sit over in the corner with the Farscape fans and learn about an exercise in futility. Maybe you can band together and try to get your crap show that everyone hates back on the air. Nothing like wasting a lot of time to keep a geek busy.

People whine and bitch about "good shows getting canned". Well you know what? Your show sucks. Firefly licks cotton balls. Birds of Prey is inexcusably bad. No one watches your shows because they are no good. WB will not pick up Firefly. UPN will not pick up either. These shows are not good and they failed because often the weeding process of canceling new shows that do poorly really works.

I reiterate. Shut up.

Sincerely,
aDam

No matter what you seem to think, this was NOT intelligent. All it was was your opinion. You're telling us "stop crying because the show sucks." Not once, not ONCE did you give us any valid reasons as to WHY the show sucks, nor did you even explain your opinion in a rational or intelligent way.

Your 'letter' is boils down to this - "Shut up because your show sucks."

Quite the masterpiece.

Go to hell.

Simon: You...you came for us.
Mal: You're on my crew.
Simon: Right. I guess I just didn't...you don't even like me.
Mal: You're on my crew. Why we still talking about this?
-Safe

BELASERA

Wednesday, February 2, 2005 7:45 PM

Adam, baby, shhhh...(rubs tummy soothingly)...It's okay to be wrong, it happens to everyone.
You don't have to jump for joy for it, but you must admit, us 'meaningless' Firefly fans have won the battle, if not yet the war. Because we knew our worth as fans, and we showed our commitment in the best possible way, we plunked down our money for the DVD. Alot of us, plunked down alot of money. Not just to prove people wrong, or to obstinately cling to a 'crappy show'. See, other people's brains don't operate like yours, we support this show out of love, we have nothing to prove. Not to you, not to anyone.

"I'll be in my bunk."

CALLMEATH

Friday, May 13, 2005 1:45 AM

All right. I'm bored. Time to poke a troll.

*poke*

*poke, poke*

Wakey, wakey.

There's a trailer now, Adam! Go to Apple.com.

Might wanna get that salad dressing ready.

"Invader's blood marches through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants. The pants command me! Do not ignore my veins!"

CHANNAIN

Friday, May 20, 2005 9:12 PM

Psst! Ath, you forgot to mention the comic books and the action figures.

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ALTA

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:13 AM

And the third round of advanced screenings selling out in 5 minutes in some cities, and
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There's no place I can be
Since I found Serenity

ADAM

Tuesday, August 2, 2005 10:28 PM

Hahaha. Star Wars? We're really comparing this movie to Star Wars? Oh my. -_- At best this movie will have the success of the waste of celluloid that was the X-Files movie.

I've started to think about what flavour of salad dressing to drink should the inconceiveable happen but I am still confident that my digestive system will be spared.

DBLADE

Wednesday, August 3, 2005 2:50 AM

Hey the cute little troll is back. I wonder what I should feed him...

Let's see. The latest Star Wars movies sucked. They did well money wise but they were truly a waste of time. Serenity can only hope to do as well financially but I will bet a cask of salad dressing down my throat that the quality of the Serenity movie will far outshine the Star Wars prequel suck fest.

There you go little troll. I hope you fed well. Now jump back into your wee diaper and have mama troll tuck you in for the night.

CAITE

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:03 AM

I sincerely hope you love salad dressing dear because you will be consuming mass quantities of the stuff. So far Serenity has sold out every single advanced showing that it has had, and most of the tickets were bought within minutes.

JACQUI

Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:44 AM

Is there some kind of line or queue to kick Adam in the nuts? Should I take a number?

'Cause I don't want to miss out.

*~*~*
"Your toes are in the sand."
"And your head's up your..."
"Hey!"

ICARUS

Monday, September 26, 2005 12:38 AM

YEEEHAAAWW!!

Troll huntin' season. WOOHOO!

Alrighty then, I believe Mr. Adam will eb quite dissappointed when he sees the reviewsand ratings of "Serenity". Alrighty then! I am very sympathetic toward those who have been hurt by Mr. Adam. If you need any support, just ask! I'm off to get my cork gun (see "Peter and the Wolf cartoon"). And if he thinks that our level of sophistication is low, well, sorry for him.

Anti-Troll League forever!

CALLMEATH

Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by aDam:
Universal will not spend 50 million on a Firefly movie. They wouldn't spend that much on a movie they don't give a general release, sure. That doesn't mean they'll give Firefly a general release because they won't pour that much money into it.

I have always made a promise to drink an entire bottle of salad dressing if this movie gets a general release. By that I mean most theatres like over 90% of the movies that are in the top 10 grossing movies of any given week.

I have never had any problem admitting I was wrong when I was wrong. I'm not wrong though. I'm not an idiot. If I'm wrong I'll eat my words and more and I am confident in saying this because I won't be. Luckily this will all be proven sooner or later.

See you next year.

So, aDam. It got a general release, it debuted at #2 in the box office and it's made about $20 million in the US as I write this.

Have you fulfilled your promise? Is there a video? I'm not trying to berate you or say "I told you so" (although I kinda just did. Sorry), I'm just curious to find out whether you had the integrity or not.

"Invader's blood marches through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants. The pants command me! Do not ignore my veins!"

BADHRAS

Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:02 AM

I just saw the movie. I'm not a fan. I didn't come away mesmerized. I was interested in finding out why people like/dislike the series. It's unfortunate that The Troll can say very little that is enlightening about why the series sucks.

On a scale of 5 stars (with 5 being good), I can only give the movie a 3. The directing of the first 10 minutes was pretty good. The firefly/serenity universe seems well developed. Language and cultural ambience helps to distinguish the future of spacefaring humans from some of the more typical TV sci-fi universes. I liked the Operative as the antagonist. He seems to sum up the Alliance well - reasonable, civil, calculating, efficient, and in pursuit of an idealized utopia.

The acting and character development were tolerable. Each actor had a few good moments, but it was somewhat bland otherwise. The captain was enjoyable, but his conflicted self seemed lacking. The doctor also had a lot of good potential that got wasted. For somebody who had built a network of contacts, and is obviously very smart, brave, and resourceful - he came across as excess baggage, with little to contribute, no worthwhile knowledge, and no real plan.

The part that really annoyed me was when the doctor got shot. A few moments before the shooting, the sister was a crying an ocean. For a person with psychotic tendencies and an obvious love for her brother, her transition into psycho-fighter was too calculated and calm. That gunshot should have snapped her... really hard, really abruptly.

Obviously, fans have had time to bond with the characters. My dissatisfaction is probably no different than why I liked Lord of the Rings movies and why my dad thought it was rather boring and apparently fell asleep during the first 2 movies. To each his own, I suppose.

As it is, Serenity is not good enough to convince me to invest in watching the series. Like Babylon 5, it has distinctions to pique some interest, but it feels like you need to be a devoted sci-fi geek to enjoy it. For it to really rise above 3 stars, it would need better acting and a better script to bring out the wealth of character development hidden in the series. I might be shallow in this regard, but oh well. I enjoyed Star Wars without the benefit of a TV series and I liked Star Trek, despite hating most of the different TV incarnations.

So, congratulations on getting your movie. If a Serenity sequel shows up, I hope it turns out to be a bit better.

p.s. I'm eagerly waiting for other geeky movies: Halo and AeonFlux.

STEVE580

Monday, October 24, 2005 12:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Badhras:
I just saw the movie. I'm not a fan......
p.s. I'm eagerly waiting for other geeky movies: Halo and AeonFlux.

Um...we don't care?

RIVER6213

Friday, October 28, 2005 7:33 AM

People who don't like Serenity or Flrefly should really just shut their stupid mouths; like we really care about what you think.

I think that people who make it their business to post that they don't like our show and movie, really should be sexually defiled by a genetically altered rhino raised by reavers.

enuff said

HYDRAGON

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:29 AM

Wow aDam, you and Jack Thompson would make fast friends. You say that the show was cancelled because it sucked, right? Firefly was cancelled because Fox picked it up, completely skipped the mandatory pilot that really should have been aired, and then aired the rest of the shows out of orders. Then they blamed the lack of success on Joss. You really shouldn't assume that just because YOU didn't like the show doesn't mean that everyone else is supposed to hate it. Yo're saying that you're trying to educate us. If we rally are uneducated, I'd prefer to stay that way, thank you.

From what I've seen, it's gotta be better than the alternative.

PEULSAR5

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Badhras:
I just saw the movie. I'm not a fan. I didn't come away mesmerized. I was interested in finding out why people like/dislike the series. It's unfortunate that The Troll can say very little that is enlightening about why the series sucks.

On a scale of 5 stars (with 5 being good), I can only give the movie a 3. The directing of the first 10 minutes was pretty good. The firefly/serenity universe seems well developed. Language and cultural ambience helps to distinguish the future of spacefaring humans from some of the more typical TV sci-fi universes. I liked the Operative as the antagonist. He seems to sum up the Alliance well - reasonable, civil, calculating, efficient, and in pursuit of an idealized utopia.

The acting and character development were tolerable. Each actor had a few good moments, but it was somewhat bland otherwise. The captain was enjoyable, but his conflicted self seemed lacking. The doctor also had a lot of good potential that got wasted. For somebody who had built a network of contacts, and is obviously very smart, brave, and resourceful - he came across as excess baggage, with little to contribute, no worthwhile knowledge, and no real plan.

The part that really annoyed me was when the doctor got shot. A few moments before the shooting, the sister was a crying an ocean. For a person with psychotic tendencies and an obvious love for her brother, her transition into psycho-fighter was too calculated and calm. That gunshot should have snapped her... really hard, really abruptly.

Obviously, fans have had time to bond with the characters. My dissatisfaction is probably no different than why I liked Lord of the Rings movies and why my dad thought it was rather boring and apparently fell asleep during the first 2 movies. To each his own, I suppose.

As it is, Serenity is not good enough to convince me to invest in watching the series. Like Babylon 5, it has distinctions to pique some interest, but it feels like you need to be a devoted sci-fi geek to enjoy it. For it to really rise above 3 stars, it would need better acting and a better script to bring out the wealth of character development hidden in the series. I might be shallow in this regard, but oh well. I enjoyed Star Wars without the benefit of a TV series and I liked Star Trek, despite hating most of the different TV incarnations.

So, congratulations on getting your movie. If a Serenity sequel shows up, I hope it turns out to be a bit better.

p.s. I'm eagerly waiting for other geeky movies: Halo and AeonFlux.

Now, unlike the original author of this thread, this is an honest, intelligent articulate review with specific examples. I am a late arrival to this universe (I was out of the country when the show first aired and only saw 1 episode--Ariel) I love all things Joss and my curiosity remained but not enough to spend $40 on the DVD set. I was glad when Sci Fi reaired the show and became totally engrossed. Your going to see the movie shows you have an open mind so my advice is: if you have a way to see the original episodes ie renting or borrowing from a friend, do so and keep that open mind. Then see the movie again and discover if your opinion changes. I hope it makes you into a fan like it did me and so many others. Thank-you

p.s.--hope you enjoy Halo and Aeon Flux

BADHRAS

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:25 PM

Well - I hated Aeon Flux. You guys got quite the movie compared to that filth attempting to pass by as a film. I can only hope that Peter Jackson is able to make something of Halo, but I am not getting my hopes up.

As for Serenity as a TV series... I can see why it would be very fun to watch. I do like the different bent on spacefaring humanity, and the concept of Reavers is just plain bad-ass. The occasional use Mandarin in the movie was kind of nice - did they generally relegate its use to "oh crap" slang moments?

As for getting around to watch the show - maybe. My hesitation isn't on the quality of the show, as much as it is the fact that my wife is already upset with me spending too much time on my new xbox. Perhaps when I get bored of it I'll go and rent the shows.

PEULSAR5

Thursday, December 29, 2005 1:48 AM

If it helps Sci-Fi is doing a 10-show Firefly marathon on 1-6-06 all day before the return of Sci-Fi Friday (FINALLY!)

NUCKLES87

Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:41 PM

Trolls are fun :D. 'Specially the ones who talk all proper 'n fancy to try and make themselves seem smarter then they really are.

There 'specially fun to poke with sticks. Gits em agittated you know. Then they use some big words to try n' convince you they are ignorin' ya.

In any case, we got our big damn movie. Now we need our big damn sequel (or season 2) and we'll all have somethin' else to root about.

Serenity's fandom is slowly growing. Only a fandom as big as ours could turn a series into a movie. DVDs are selling great at the moment to.

By the way, in case anyone was wonderin' I was refferring to Adam. Badhras has my respect for having an open mind ;).

How's my firefly speak? Good? Bad? Fee-oo?

...It's fee-oo isn't it?

HUMBUG

Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:05 PM

Where do we find Adam's post?

In the Troll dungeon where it belongs!!!!

You may have noticed that this is a FAN site -
where you will find mostly people who enjoyed the film. Good luck in finding many who agree with you.

Browncoats - If we can't run we crawl, and if we can't crawl we find someone to carry us!
NOT someone who will kick us while we're down!!!!

We're all hoping for at least one movie sequel or a new tv series...........

What are you looking forward to.................? More Star Wars / Star Trek / Babylon 5 etc (eg more of the same old crap that we don't want anymore because we love some thing new, innovative and exciting called Serenity and Firefly!!!!

Go spread your anti-firefly propaganda somewhere else, cause no one's buying it here!!!

Humbug

"You know what the first rule of flying is?... Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take a boat in the air you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of worlds. Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home." Mal, BDM

BROWNCOATSANDINISTA

Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:27 PM

aDam,
I respect that you have a right to your opinions. However, your use of foul language, obvious lack of respect for anyone on this forum, and inability to let go mark you instantly as a troll. If you could produce a well thought out and coherent criticism of Firefly/Serenity then I feel that the other members would be slower to dismiss your opinions. In that vein, I personally feel that Kim Possible and Even Stevens, the two of your "Good" shows I have seen of late, rely heavily on slapstick humor, cliched situational jokes, and an utter lack of creativity from any of the authors.

Our situation, us being Browncoats, reminds me of one of my favorite lines from Shakespeare.
"I may be but small but I am fierce" or something to that end. This almost sums up our situation. Only now, no longer are we small. We're still fierce.

"Preacher, ain't the bible got something pretty specific to say about killin'?"

"Yes, however it's a bit fuzzier in the area of kneecaps."

BISHOP76

Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:43 AM

You know, if you want a good laugh, check out Adam's website. Here's a quote:

"As many of you know I'm a big Sailor Moon fan what with it being the best series of all time and all. So there's this other series "Utena" which is pretty good. I followed the series but never heard that it was in any way related to Sailor Moon. So the videos for the series come out and they've got this huge writing on the box that says "From the Director of Sailor Moon". Total crap. Sailor Moon was actually created by Naoko Takeuchi. She did the original Manga on which the TV series was based."

http://adamrulz.com/beef/mar2003.html

So, keep this in mind when he insults Firefly/Serenity - he's a 26 year old man who thinks Sailor Moon is one of the best series of all time... That's right, a series about high school age girls who fight evil Japanese monster things. The. Best. Series. Of. All. Time.

Think about it. It truly is funny.

LUCASHARPER

Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:10 AM

It gets better!

He's into 90's rap retards Kris Kross.

What a jerk off...

http://adamrulz.com/board/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=c8de7d641bcdfbda65be5f
3aea3037e6

www.guyandpenguin.com

NUCKLES87

Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:17 AM

You know, even if Adam DID still come back here...it's not right attacking what he likes. Unless, of course, your a big fan of vengeance. But one of the big problems with vengeance is that it don't make you much better then the other guy.

How's my firefly speak? Good? Bad? Fee-oo?

...It's fee-oo isn't it?

ADAM

Monday, March 27, 2006 5:16 AM

Okay! So..... okay I lost. The movie was a wide release and somewhat of a success. I swore I'd drink some salad dressing and I did just that. I would have come back and replied sooner but I couldn't get to the board for a while after the movie came out for whatever reason.

Anyway I documented the event with a little video. Enjoy:

So yeah now that that's out of the way let me deal with a few more of you idiots:

Quote:
Let's see. The latest Star Wars movies sucked. They did well money wise but they were truly a waste of time. Serenity can only hope to do as well financially but I will bet a cask of salad dressing down my throat that the quality of the Serenity movie will far outshine the Star Wars prequel suck fest.

Debating "shine" is like debating quality. You can bitch all you want but the only thing that talks is numbers. Serenitiy's box office pull doesn't even compare to how Episode III, in all it's faults, did.

Quote:
I sincerely hope you love salad dressing dear because you will be consuming mass quantities of the stuff.

I said a bottle. 250ml is hardly "mass quantities". It just gave me about an hour of a feeling like I just threw up.

Quote:
Have you fulfilled your promise? Is there a video? I'm not trying to berate you or say "I told you so" (although I kinda just did. Sorry), I'm just curious to find out whether you had the integrity or not.

*burp*

Quote:
You may have noticed that this is a FAN site -
where you will find mostly people who enjoyed the film. Good luck in finding many who agree with you.

I wasn't looking for people who agreed with me. I was trying to tell the fans to shut up so... I came to this fansite. Jeez...

Quote:
he's a 26 year old man who thinks Sailor Moon is one of the best series of all time...

28.

NUCKLES87

Friday, March 31, 2006 9:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by aDam:
Okay! So..... okay I lost. The movie was a wide release and somewhat of a success. I swore I'd drink some salad dressing and I did just that. I would have come back and replied sooner but I couldn't get to the board for a while after the movie came out for whatever reason.

Anyway I documented the event with a little video. Enjoy:

So yeah now that that's out of the way let me deal with a few more of you idiots:

Quote:
Let's see. The latest Star Wars movies sucked. They did well money wise but they were truly a waste of time. Serenity can only hope to do as well financially but I will bet a cask of salad dressing down my throat that the quality of the Serenity movie will far outshine the Star Wars prequel suck fest.
Debating "shine" is like debating quality. You can bitch all you want but the only thing that talks is numbers. Serenitiy's box office pull doesn't even compare to how Episode III, in all it's faults, did.

Quote:
I sincerely hope you love salad dressing dear because you will be consuming mass quantities of the stuff.
I said a bottle. 250ml is hardly "mass quantities". It just gave me about an hour of a feeling like I just threw up.

Quote:
Have you fulfilled your promise? Is there a video? I'm not trying to berate you or say "I told you so" (although I kinda just did. Sorry), I'm just curious to find out whether you had the integrity or not.
*burp*

Quote:
You may have noticed that this is a FAN site -
where you will find mostly people who enjoyed the film. Good luck in finding many who agree with you.
I wasn't looking for people who agreed with me. I was trying to tell the fans to shut up so... I came to this fansite. Jeez...

Quote:
he's a 26 year old man who thinks Sailor Moon is one of the best series of all time...
28.

Episode 3 is Star Wars. A huge franchise with a huge budget. It's on everything from toys to cups to happy meals. The movie could have been complete and utter crap (I found it amusing) and it still would've been a box office hit.

Funny thing about that last part...you where 25 when you came here lol. I am personally amazed that you've remembered to keep coming back for two...three straight years. Interesting bit of dedication, impressive for a troll.

Also, apologies for the fans who overreacted. (looks at the Sailormoon bashers, among other people). I can assure you we, like all groups of people, are not all like that ;). But next time you come to board, it's not wise to insult it's main population. In fact, it is quite idiotic. Still, you where man enough to admit you where wrong, AND you held up your end of the bet. Although it might have been easier if you just googled Serenity movie.

Reminds me, did you ever see it? The DVD sales topped 2 million awhile ago, you know. I admit, wasn't as good as the series, but it was still a kick ass movie in my opinion, and a satisfying ending...or continuation of this great franchise.

How's my firefly speak? Good? Bad? Fee-oo?

...It's fee-oo isn't it?

ADAM

Saturday, April 1, 2006 5:00 AM

Quote:
Episode 3 is Star Wars. A huge franchise with a huge budget. It's on everything from toys to cups to happy meals. The movie could have been complete and utter crap (I found it amusing) and it still would've been a box office hit.

That was pretty much my point. It's essentially impossible to compare the quality of one to the other, as was insinuated earlier in this thread. I myself am a Star Wars fan and have enjoyed the prquest despite their flaws. ( http://adamrulz.com/jj/ ...)

Quote:
Funny thing about that last part...you where 25 when you came here lol. I am personally amazed that you've remembered to keep coming back for two...three straight years. Interesting bit of dedication, impressive for a troll.

Well I was hardly going out of my way to look for it past the first few days. What I'd done is put the option to be e-mailed of replies. The thread quickly died but once moved to this troll forum it was accessible again. Ironically it's only for having been moved here that people see it at all otherwise it would just be bumped off the first page and forgotten like so many others. Eventually the e-mail notifies stopped but I would occasionally see people who clicked through to my site through my logs which reminded me. Once the salad dressing challenge was made though I had to go otu and seek the thread in order to settle things nice and proper.

Quote:
Although it might have been easier if you just googled Serenity movie.

Well yes and no. Though I had my doubts about the news I didn't imagine it was just made up. I just never expected it would have te scope that it did given the failed franchise it came from. I mean... imagine an "Earth 2" movie hitting theatres. Such a concept would be ridiculous!

Quote:

Reminds me, did you ever see it? The DVD sales topped 2 million awhile ago, you know. I admit, wasn't as good as the series, but it was still a kick ass movie in my opinion, and a satisfying ending...or continuation of this great franchise.

Fo' shizzle. My brother saw the movie and then got the DVDs. I reluctantly watched a few episodes because I wanted to afirm the opinion I had formed after watching 10 minutes once and hating the show. Well... as it would turn out the series is really good and I thoroughly enjoyed what I saw of it. I then watched the movie which was great as well... -_-

aDam Rulz!

BROWNCOATSANDINISTA

Sunday, April 2, 2006 12:30 AM

Adam,
It seems that you have really grown since your first post. I've noticed that you've dropped the cursing to the bare minimum; you've held up your end of the agreement, which I doubt that I would have done; and you've chosen to base your likes/dislikes of the series based upon watching it, and not its being cancelled.

Star Wars, the Prequels, were not so good, however. They banked on Flashy visuals and prior success to win them money. The third however, did make up for it with acting that was better than most films of the type, and a plot/script that was well written and translated well to the silver screen. And Natalie Portman is pretty.

What did you think of V for Vendetta?

If anyone gets nosy...Shoot em.
Shoot em sir?
Politely.

ADAM

Sunday, April 2, 2006 6:15 AM

I did a new years resolution to stop swearing... for new years ... 2004. So that explains that. I also generally in the past 5 years or so have lost interest in Internet fighting. Actually for the most part I was done with all that anna when I made this post but I just couldn't resist...

Thought V for Vendetta was a pretty awesome flick.

aDam Rulz!

WHISPER

Friday, April 14, 2006 11:20 PM

Thanks for the laugh, aDam. The video was hilarious. I admire your constitution; I'm not sure i'd have been able to keep the salad dressing from coming back up.

Want Firefly/ Serenity/ BtVS/ Angel desktop wallpapers? Take a look at the ones I've created at:
http://www.whispergraphics.net
Now hosting the Firefly Extended Gagreel
I have added a forum to my site and now I need some members!

MIKRONN

Tuesday, June 6, 2006 3:17 PM

I agree with Adam re: Firefly...imho, this show is awful. The acting is over-the-top corny and the one-liners are predictable and overused. I have the full box set + the movie and really wish I'd have saved my $$$.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so please don't bash me for disagreeing with the majority on this forum, but there are far better shows to watch (and as nothing's perfect, these shows have their 'lows' too):

1. Doctor Who 2005, 2006, ...
2. Battlestar Galactica

...and I disagree with Adam's dig at Farscape - I love that show.

STUBBS

Tuesday, June 6, 2006 6:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by aDam:
Dear Firefly and Birds of Prey fans,

Go sit over in the corner with the Farscape fans and learn about an exercise in futility. Maybe you can band together and try to get your crap show that everyone hates back on the air. Nothing like wasting a lot of time to keep a geek busy.

People whine and bitch about "good shows getting canned". Well you know what? Your show sucks. Firefly licks cotton balls. Birds of Prey is inexcusably bad. No one watches your shows because they are no good. WB will not pick up Firefly. UPN will not pick up either. These shows are not good and they failed because often the weeding process of canceling new shows that do poorly really works.

I reiterate. Shut up.

Sincerely,
aDam

I think that after watching the video of our dear adam drinking salad dressing we can all pretty much see what kind of person he is.

1- the video seems to be shot in what looks like a basement. Obviously he lives down there alone and plans his silly little e-mails so that he can actually talk to REAL PEOPLE. i bet he still lives with his mum as well.
2- he resides with a cat and some fish. obviously dear old adam is not a people person and as such has to seek solace with animals because they are unable to reply to his endless supply of bullshit. i bet if the cat could talk it would tell him to shove his head up his arse and quit being the self obsessed loser he so clearly is.
3- he was wearing a ludicrous hat that pretty much sums up the feeling that he is a sad little loser living in his mums basement.

it basically seems that adam got everything wrong.

1- 'your show sucks!'
No it doesnt

2- 'there wont be a movie!'
yes there will

3- 'the movie wont be released nationwide!'
yes it will

4- 'it wont be a success!'
yes it will

5- 'i like boys and dressing up in skirts!'
so true

at the end of the day adam your a poor excuse for a human being and you really need a good kicking. its sad that you just posted here to raise attention. its obvious that you are unable to form friendships with other people and in your anger you've resorted to throwing all of your toys out of your pram and abusing others with a quite pathetic attempt at providing a voice of reason.

somewhere out there are a group of men in white coats looking for the test subject who has just escaped from the 'turn a man into a dickhead with a small cock' programme. somebody had better tell them where you live shitbreak.

grow up and get some balls. And some friends.

AND A LIFE

"can we vote on the whole killing people issue?"

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Sunday, July 2, 2006 2:12 AM

wow, few things make me happier than when a troll admits that they were wrong

and please pay no attention to stubbs, he probably didn't see your post about liking the show

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
-try it out, I dare you

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

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