Britain Sucks

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WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:38 PM (P)

I've been finding alot of articles lately coming from Britain. In a sense, I guess its a good thing. They are sort of an experiment in what happens when you take away the rights of people.

Its also a grim reminder of what can happen here if we don't prevent it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056633/Drivers-face-20-fine-l
eaving-engines-running-traffic-jams.html

PIRATENEWS

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:55 PM (P)

That's insane. Most cars won't start if they have to keep starting their engines without time to recharge on the highway.

Every traffic light is a traffic jam. Will drivers be required to stop their engines at traffic lights, if they don't have a hybrid?

British drivers are very sheepish. Very few fight traffic tickets in court - less than in USA?

This is why I now fight every traffic ticket of any kind. I will never again "plead guilty" to a traffic "crime" (alleged breach of unconstitutional civil driver license contract).

If a ticket lacks personal service of process, like Gatso robocop tickets and parking tickets, I ignore the ticket and ignore the court. These frivolous traffic-jam tickets fall into that category.

Or you can do what cops do, and beat the crap out of any "traffic warden" that tries to give you such a ticket, or shoot them (robocops).
www.piratenews.org/kill-robocops.html

All traffic cops, prosecutors, judges and politicians are career criminals, according to their own laws. That's why they get virtual immunity to their own laws. The laws are designed to only apply to slaves.

JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:12 PM (P)

Now that Great Britain has caved in to their Muslim population and is now recognizing Islamic Sharia Law, imagine all the fun stuff coming soon.....

When Sharia Court sentences a girl to be stoned to death for standing next to a boy, they promise to still respect the traditional afternoon tea break. Stoning resumes immediately after the last scone is consumed and their mouths are wiped with a doily cloth.

When a girl is raped by her father and brothers and she becomes un-clean, the Sharia Court is limited to a maximum of 799 lashes by the whip. And they promise to cover her bloody, laid-open bare back as to not offend the nearby children too much.

When 2 men are convicted by Sharia Court of homosexual activity and are sentenced to hang in public, the new rules prohibit using the hanging corpses as any sort of party pinata. Observers will have to seek other forms of celebratory activities.

England is officially NUTS!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1687576.ece

STORYMARK

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:24 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Now that Great Britain has caved in to their Muslim population and is now recognizing Islamic Sharia Law, imagine all the fun stuff coming soon.....

They didn't "cave". It was a long-forgoteen loophole that is now being exploited for Sharia Law. It will likely be changed.

But it's not like they changed the law to recognize Sharia.

Did you even read the last paragraph of the article you linked?

Quote:
The Justice Ministry confirmed arbitration decisions were enforceable, but denied Sharia law was part of the law of England and Wales.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CITIZEN

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:28 PM (P)

I love it when small minded deeply stupid people believe what they read in the Daily Outrage. Though far right wing nuts quoting it's outright lies is far from unexpected, it's much like Fox News in that respect.

When the story is supported in a source of more repute, the Dandy for instance, it might hold some more weight.

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WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:32 PM (P)

I would hate to live in Britain... I was actually considering taking my wife there about 2 years ago, but I can't say I want to anymore.

Its up to the English to fight back.

Will they?

I doubt it. The idea of the King/Queen/Parliment taking care of them is far too ingrained in their culture.

CITIZEN

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:34 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
I would hate to live in Britain... I was actually considering taking my wife there about 2 years ago, but I can't say I want to anymore.

Its up to the English to fight back.

Will they?

I doubt it. The idea of the King/Queen/Parliment taking care of them is far too ingrained in their culture.

We don't want you here. That's why we let you think that...

Besides, we're too busy looking at America and thinking "we better change our ways, or we'll end up like them..."

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STORYMARK

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:41 PM (P)

Aw, can't we send just a few guys like Wulf over there? We've got way, waaaay too many.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CITIZEN

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:48 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Aw, can't we send just a few guys like Wulf over there? We've got way, waaaay too many.

No, why do you think we sent them there in the first place?

We don't want the convicts back either, Australia.

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STORYMARK

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:50 PM (P)

Oh, good point. Australia still has plenty of room.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CITIZEN

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:52 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Oh, good point. Australia still has plenty of room.

And big dry deserts...

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WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:55 PM (P)

Go back to drinking your tea, Shitizen.

I wouldn't even want to VISIT your police-state-like, hippie-liberal, drunk, assclown country. I value my freedom too much.

Besides, even if my wife and I did visit, I would spend too much time fighting off British neo-nazis and soccer hooligans. I'd have to do it without my guns too, which would be a chore.

Guy Fawkes had it right. Maybe if he had succceeded, you morons would know what freedom tastes like.

Even if our freedoms here are being broken down by the liberal nazis, we can always take them back. You guys can't. You have been bred too long with the idea of Queen and Country.

CITIZEN

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:58 PM (P)

Hahahahaha!

No, we don't have neo-nazis here. Republican's are an American political party. We value our freedom to much to let people like Republicans into the political system here...

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WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:05 PM (P)

I always forget that its better to just ignore you, Shitizen.

But, Britain doesn't have Neo-Nazis? I know you are blind...and deaf....and definatly DUMB, but wow.

http://apostate.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/british-neo-nazis-and-the-rac
ism-of-anti-islamism/

In any case, your country sucks. Sorry, but it does. You have become an experiment in Big Brother/Nanny State ideals.

So, as your country becomes like a prison, I wish you the best of luck. Maybe, one day, you'll grow a pair, wake up, and fight back.

But I doubt it. You are too weak.

STORYMARK

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:14 PM (P)

Wulfy - do realize how amazingly paranoid you come off equating a "turn off the engine when not driving" article to a full-on Police state?

Really?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:22 PM (P)

Wulfenstar

Wouldn't it be nice if you knew what the fuck you were talking about.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:23 PM (P)

There are a LOT of articles on the Brits killing off their own liberties. Just do a Google search on it. "british Nanny State" is a good place to start. Or even www.fark.com

This one just shows how much power the parliment has over the people.

Now, you can't even sit in traffic without following their rules.

I wonder what the British sheeple will do on the hot summer days? If they can't have their engines running, I wonder how many will fall to heatstroke?

And carjacking will be a breeze too....knock out/kill sheep, pull sheep out of your new car, start said new car, drive off.

FLETCH2

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:31 PM (P)

You do realise that most cars dont have AC right? The climate is such that there's only maybe a week or so of high temperatures every year.

STORYMARK

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:35 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

And carjacking will be a breeze too....knock out/kill sheep, pull sheep out of your new car, start said new car, drive off.

Guess you missed that suggestion above about knowing about what you're spouting off about.

The idea of massive heatstrokes in England has been covered.

I'd like to know, how a carjacking is going to be so easy, in the middle of a traffic jam? Sure, they may get the car easy enough.... and go where now?

Dolt. You're making this too easy.

Or maybe you were thinking this would be more of an issue for those British flying car drivers.....?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:36 PM (P)

Ok, so they freeze to death. Same difference.

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:42 PM (P)

http://neveryetmelted.com/index.php/british-nanny-state-to-crack-down-
on-wine-drinking/

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2007/12/british_nanny_s_2.html

http://holycoast.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-british-nanny-state-nonsens
e.html

Again, Britain sucks.

STORYMARK

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:57 PM (P)

Blah, blah, blah.

I still wanna know about these magical car-jackers.....

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:05 PM (P)

I guess they don't have carjackings where you live, huh Story? Well, I'll explain it to you. (Don't worry, I'll use short phrases, and small words so you can get it)

1. Pick Sheeple Story, sitting and freezing in his car.

2. Walk over to Story, pull gun/knife/big words out.

3. Kill, scare, or otherwise drive off Sheeple Story.

4. Climb into car.

5. Turn car on.

6. Ram cars in front and behind of you to give you room.

7. U-Turn in the opposite direction of traffic jam. Or go up on the sidewalk.

8. Speed away.

Feel better Story?

Now its time for your nap.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:11 PM (P)

seriously, dude, you don't know what you are talking about and are making an ass of yourself.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:13 PM (P)

Whatever you say Future. You still have not spoken about what has been posted.

But I guess dodging the real issues is par for the course, huh?

STORYMARK

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:18 PM (P)

Yes, I'm familliar with car jackers. I am also aware that the purpose and intent is usually to get away fast, not play bumper-cars for several minutes with hundreds of witnesses.

But I applaud your effort to rationalize your dumb-ass statement.

bravo!

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:32 PM (P)

It was a passing statement.

But I love how you've latched on to it, in order not to actually discuss the real issue of the British losing more of their rights.

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:01 PM (P)

Then again, I guess its not really an Americans problem to call out about the loss of british rights.

You guys are your own nation. Do what you like. Or don't. Or get told to do what someone else likes. Whichever.

Just don't even think of bringing that shit over here.

JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:16 PM (P)

Wulf....Brits on this board never hesitate to offer their opinions on American politics and social issues, so don't feel like it's off limits for you. I knew the article I cited was from a lousy rag of a paper, so that's why I tried to have some fun with it. But then again, folks tend to get their backs up when you go after their country or their politics. Stay shiny!

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:20 PM (P)

Thanks Jong,

Again, I've got no problem with an argument. It's a good way of hashing out ideas.

And I know the title of this thread is a bit inflamatory...but what the hell.

I guess I'm just hoping that we don't end up like the British.

CITIZEN

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:57 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
http://neveryetmelted.com/index.php/british-nanny-state-to-crack-down-
on-wine-drinking/

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2007/12/british_nanny_s_2.html

http://holycoast.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-british-nanny-state-nonsens
e.html

Again, Britain sucks.

Man, if you hadn't posted a bunch of off kilter conspiracy sites about a country you've never visited, I'd know nothing about the country I live in

.

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
seriously, dude, you don't know what you are talking about and are making an ass of yourself.

Tut tut. The man has ass-pirations! Ass is up! Don't belittle his dream!

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Wulf....Brits on this board never hesitate to offer their opinions on American politics and social issues, so don't feel like it's off limits for you. I knew the article I cited was from a lousy rag of a paper, so that's why I tried to have some fun with it. But then again, folks tend to get their backs up when you go after their country or their politics. Stay shiny!

You're funny Jongs, got to keep that underlying level of hate running at all time eh. In fact you're all welcome to comment on British politics, the chance of discussing something other than American politics would be nice, but you see most of the American's on this board are too stupid, ignorant and insular to comment on anything that happens outside of their own State with any accuracy, let alone another country. I note with some sense of tradition on this board that when I make a largely accurate statement on American politics, some far right nut will get into an abject rage that I dare to comment on America, the worlds only perfect nation, and will come back with an undoubtedly incisive and witty retort such as "Britain Sucks".

This thread and the replies on it, however is not a valid comment on British politics. It's the immature whining of a pathetic troll wishing to offend. You may disagree with my opinion on American politics, but you could never say it is uninformed. At least, not if you're being objective and truthful, both of which, along with common Human decency, are seldom seen commodities on this board. Indeed I feel confident in the statement that on my off days I know more about American politics than most American's on this board know about British, more over I probably know more about American politics than most Americans.

American politics effect mine, so I make it my business to know about it. Of course world politics effect American's, and American's don't tend to give a shit, so you may not understand that concept. I would note though, that the only time I'd make a stupid and inflammatory remark such as "Britain Sucks", is when speaking to some far right loony nationalist...

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PIRATENEWS

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:16 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:

Quote:
The Justice Ministry confirmed arbitration decisions were enforceable, but denied Sharia law was part of the law of England and Wales.

In USA "binding arbitration" means you go through arbitration, then you appeal it and get a real trial.

Islamic law in Britain is merely civil arbitration, and cannot enforce draconian tortures. It's the British government's job to enforce Draconian tortures, like renditions of Arabs in CIA death camps.

Quote:

They cut off my clothes with some kind of doctor's scalpel. I was naked. I tried to put on a brave face. But maybe I was going to be raped. Maybe they'd electrocute me. Maybe castrate me.

They took the scalpel to my right chest. It was only a small cut. Maybe an inch. At first I just screamed ... I was just shocked, I wasn't expecting ... Then they cut my left chest. This time I didn't want to scream because I knew it was coming.

One of them took my penis in his hand and began to make cuts. He did it once, and they stood still for maybe a minute, watching my reaction. I was in agony. They must have done this 20 to 30 times, in maybe two hours. There was blood all over. "I told you I was going to teach you who's the man," [one] eventually said.

They cut all over my private parts. One of them said it would be better just to cut it off, as I would only breed terrorists. I asked for a doctor.

Doctor No 1 carried a briefcase. "You're all right, aren't you? But I'm going to say a prayer for you." Doctor No 2 gave me an Alka-Seltzer for the pain. I told him about my penis. "I need to see it. How did this happen?" I told him. He looked like it was just another patient. "Put this cream on it two times a day. Morning and night." He gave me some kind of antibiotic.

I was in Morocco for 18 months. Once they began this, they would do it to me about once a month. One time I asked a guard: "What's the point of this? I've got nothing I can say to them. I've told them everything I possibly could."

"As far as I know, it's just to degrade you. So when you leave here, you'll have these scars and you'll never forget. So you'll always fear doing anything but what the US wants."

Later, when a US airplane picked me up the following January, a female MP took pictures. She was one of the few Americans who ever showed me any sympathy. When she saw the injuries I had she gasped. They treated me and took more photos when I was in Kabul. Someone told me this was "to show Washington it's healing".

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/aug/02/terrorism.humanrights1

That was just the beginning of the torture...

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SLOPPYDOC

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:26 PM (P)

Glad to see we are all on the right path to better understanding and world peace.

KWICKO

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:51 PM (P)

Quote:

This thread and the replies on it, however is not a valid comment on British politics. It's the immature whining of a pathetic troll wishing to offend. You may disagree with my opinion on American politics, but you could never say it is uninformed. At least, not if you're being objective and truthful, both of which, along with common Human decency, are seldom seen commodities on this board. Indeed I feel confident in the statement that on my off days I know more about American politics than most American's on this board know about British, more over I probably know more about American politics than most Americans.

American politics effect mine, so I make it my business to know about it. Of course world politics effect American's, and American's don't tend to give a shit, so you may not understand that concept. I would note though, that the only time I'd make a stupid and inflammatory remark such as "Britain Sucks", is when speaking to some far right loony nationalist...

Good on ya, Cit. As I've said before, you'd make a far better American citizen than many of the ones we have already.

Mike

This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:53 AM (P)

Shut-up Shitizen.

Go take care of your own country before you tell me what to do with mine.

CITIZEN

Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:08 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Go take care of your own country before you tell me what to do with mine.

You can stick your country up your great big fat arse for all I care. I'm more interested in the country and opinions of decent hard working and intelligent American's, than the fascist wet dream of some nationalist shit eater.

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KIRKULES

Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:18 AM (P)

My brother has been living in the UK part time for about five years now and he really likes it there. He says the customer service sucks and the food is overpriced and crappy, but he's a hippie liberal so I would expect him to cut the Brits some slack. Did they ever get around to banning chef's knifes over there? Maybe that's why the food sucks.

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:27 AM (P)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

Im not sure. I know they wanted to.

I guess after they ban the knives, (and the rocks and the sticks...)they would have to ban toothbrushes. I mean you can make a nice shiv out of a melted and sharpened toothbrush...

Or wait, did they already do that?

Is that why the Brits teeth look like a 2 dollar hooker after a hard night in D.C.?

(Ehhh...Now I'm resorting to making fun of peoples teeth...sorry folks, I let myself get heated)

But still....

REAVERMAN

Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:57 AM (P)

My God, if it weren't for Wulf's lack of pics, I'd think he was a sock for PN. I honestly would probably prefer Britain to the US. From what I've seen there's a slightly lower ratio of dumbasses-to-normal-folk over there.

Oh, and PN? Fuck Ron Paul. The man is almost as divorced from reality as you are.

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"Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then He is not omnipotent. Is He able but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?"

-Epicurus

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:16 AM (P)

Hi Reaver,

To quote.. "Sarcasm? Thats original.."

And, btw, I've actually met Ron Paul. I had the opurtunity to speak with him while we were both waiting for different flights out of Ronald Reagan.

Hes actually a good man.

ANTHONYT

Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:20 AM (P)

Hello,

I support Ron Paul's take on the powers of the Federal Government. While he may be divorced from our current reality, I think that's because he's married to what the reality of Federal power was supposed to be.

Even knowing that Ron Paul couldn't possibly get nominated for president, I switched to Republican from Independent this year just so I could vote for him.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

OUT2THEBLACK

Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:38 AM (P)

Intended only for the 'intellectual elites'...

Certain folk need not apply...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080917/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_clinton_backer_
1

Hmmm , does that name 'Rothschild' ring bells for any folk ?

'Course , it's the same on the other side , what with 'moneychanger' Soros writing the checks for the next Obama-nation...

Is it any wonder that Ralph Nader calls this 'the Evil of two Lessers' ?

REAVERMAN

Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:48 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
And, btw, I've actually met Ron Paul. I had the opurtunity to speak with him while we were both waiting for different flights out of Ronald Reagan.

Hes actually a good man.

I don't doubt that he's a decent enough guy in person, but his political philosophy leaves much to be desired. If we were 200 years in the past, when the industrial revolution hadn't happened and the US was just another nothing country that no one but the Brits payed much attention to, then yeah, he'd be a good choice for president.

Do I think governmental power should be limited? Yes. But Ron Paul's philosophy seems to be something along the lines of "hack off the arm to remove the cancer in the fingertip". If he had his way, the country would collapse in 10 years, because the infrastructure that maintained it would be gone. The man, regardless of how "good" he is, is a fool, and a dangerous one at that.

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"Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then He is not omnipotent. Is He able but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?"

-Epicurus

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:28 PM (P)

No, the country would not collapse in 10 years...

Just the bloated parts of government.

We, as Americans, need to remember our birthrights. Freedom, self-determination, personal accountability and grit.

We don't need Big Brother coddling us from the cradle to the grave. We are stronger than that.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:46 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
... but you see most of the American's on this board are too stupid, ignorant and insular to comment on anything that happens outside of their own State with any accuracy

I guess that's the real difference between us Citizen. I disagree with that assessment of the posters here. But if it makes you feel better by putting others down and flaunting your so-called intellect, then by all means carry on.

ANTHONYT

Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:48 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Reaverman:
Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
And, btw, I've actually met Ron Paul. I had the opurtunity to speak with him while we were both waiting for different flights out of Ronald Reagan.

Hes actually a good man.

I don't doubt that he's a decent enough guy in person, but his political philosophy leaves much to be desired. If we were 200 years in the past, when the industrial revolution hadn't happened and the US was just another nothing country that no one but the Brits payed much attention to, then yeah, he'd be a good choice for president.

Do I think governmental power should be limited? Yes. But Ron Paul's philosophy seems to be something along the lines of "hack off the arm to remove the cancer in the fingertip". If he had his way, the country would collapse in 10 years, because the infrastructure that maintained it would be gone. The man, regardless of how "good" he is, is a fool, and a dangerous one at that.

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"Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then He is not omnipotent. Is He able but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?"

-Epicurus

Hello,

What Ron Paul would do, is reduce government size and spending, restore the value of currency, and cease foreign military entanglements while opening the floodgates of trade to all nations.

This would have the impact of reducing the nation to a mere 'power' on the world stage instead of a 'superpower.' This is something I support, as I am not so full of bloated self-importance that I think the U.S. needs to be at the center of everything.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:04 PM (P)

What makes a "superpower" anyways? I mean, as a nation, we have the ability to wipe out any country with a barrage of nukes....we can also drop our troops into a hostile territory within a matter of hours....

So if its not military might, then what is it? Economic might? I could argue that we have not been a "superpower" in that respect for a long time..

REAVERMAN

Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:55 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:

What Ron Paul would do, is reduce government size and spending, restore the value of currency, and cease foreign military entanglements while opening the floodgates of trade to all nations.

This would have the impact of reducing the nation to a mere 'power' on the world stage instead of a 'superpower.' This is something I support, as I am not so full of bloated self-importance that I think the U.S. needs to be at the center of everything.

It has nothing to do with self-importance. It's simple realism. Let's look at his views on taxes, for example. He wants to abolish the IRS. Can you think of a more idiotic thing to do? 'Cause I can't. As annoying as paying taxes is, our entire society would fall apart if there weren't any.

How would we pay for schools, or roads, or any number of vital services? The answer is simple: we couldn't. That alone would be enough to bring down the country if it came to pass, because the government would have no money to maintain our infrastructure.

Not to mention defense. Now, we definitely don't need to be spending outrageously large amounts of money on defense like we are now, but how would we maintain any military force at all with no money to pay for it? Once again, we couldn't.

So, with abolishing one federal agency, Ron Paul would have effectively killed education, the economy, and the military all in one fell swoop. How exactly does that make him a good choice for the presidency?

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"Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then He is not omnipotent. Is He able but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?"

-Epicurus

CITIZEN

Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:16 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I guess that's the real difference between us Citizen. I disagree with that assessment of the posters here. But if it makes you feel better by putting others down and flaunting your so-called intellect, then by all means carry on.

Believe me, comparing myself favourably to the witless self important morons, who immediately begin shouting insults the moment someone disagrees with them because they're incapable of accepting other view points or even forming a logical argument, is neither 'putting them down' nor building myself up. If anything it's relatively a compliment.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:22 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I guess that's the real difference between us Citizen. I disagree with that assessment of the posters here. But if it makes you feel better by putting others down and flaunting your so-called intellect, then by all means carry on.

Believe me, comparing myself favourably to the witless self important morons, who immediately begin shouting insults the moment someone disagrees with them because they're incapable of accepting other view points or even forming a logical argument, is neither 'putting them down' nor building myself up. If anything it's relatively a compliment.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

"witless self important morons, who immediately begin shouting insults the moment someone disagrees with them because they're incapable of accepting other view points or even forming a logical argument"

Good description of yourself there, Shitizen.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:23 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I guess that's the real difference between us Citizen. I disagree with that assessment of the posters here. But if it makes you feel better by putting others down and flaunting your so-called intellect, then by all means carry on.

Believe me, comparing myself favourably to the witless self important morons, who immediately begin shouting insults the moment someone disagrees with them because they're incapable of accepting other view points or even forming a logical argument, is neither 'putting them down' nor building myself up. If anything it's relatively a compliment.

Oh I see. So by saying this :

Originally posted by citizen:
"... but you see most of the American's on this board are too stupid, ignorant and insular to comment on anything that happens outside of their own State with any accuracy..."

you were actually complimenting us stupid, ignorant American posters. Thanks for clearing that up.

CITIZEN

Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:35 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Oh I see. So by saying this :

Originally posted by citizen:
"... but you see most of the American's on this board are too stupid, ignorant and insular to comment on anything that happens outside of their own State with any accuracy..."

you were actually complimenting us stupid, ignorant American posters. Thanks for clearing that up.

Relatively speaking, yes. I mean if I was truthful about some of the posters here, I'd have to be much more eviscerating.

I mean, you really do have to doubt the intellect of someone who's very best shot is "I'm rubber, you're glue":

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Good description of yourself there, Shitizen.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:54 PM (P)

Friend Citizen...your last 2 posts have really exposed some basic truths about the RWED. What the fuck are any of us doing in here? We each only preach to our own choirs. We don't convince or convert anyone. We all just like to shoot our holes off, because we can. This place is like a bad experiment in mental masterbation.
This place must end.

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:55 PM (P)

Again, Shitizen, go back to drinking your tea.

Or at least fix the problems in your own glass house before you think to toss your comments at American problems.

CITIZEN

Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:01 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Friend Citizen...your last 2 posts have really exposed some basic truths about the RWED. What the fuck are any of us doing in here? We each only preach to our own choirs. We don't convince or convert anyone. We all just like to shoot our holes off, because we can. This place is like a bad experiment in mental masterbation.
This place must end.

Actually I'm yanking your chain as much as anything, but really you started it, so there. I'm fairly confident that, whatever my faults, not listening to people I disagree with certainly isn't one of them.

Having said that though, when a citizen of the currently only Imperial super power with the biggest gap between rich and poor, lowest social mobility, and amongst the lowest scores in social freedoms among developed nations, who just started a thread titled "Britain Sucks" says:

Quote:
Or at least fix the problems in your own glass house before you think to toss your comments at American problems.

I do tend to switch off...

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:07 PM (P)

This is why I have a modicum of respect for Fredfirma.

At least hes doing something.

Not just bitching.

WULFENSTAR

Friday, September 19, 2008 1:04 AM (P)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/298329
5/Tens-of-thousands-of-prisoners-to-be-freed-early-to-ease-prison-overcrowding.html

KWICKO

Friday, September 19, 2008 2:11 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Again, Shitizen, go back to drinking your tea.

Or at least fix the problems in your own glass house before you think to toss your comments at American problems.

Clarify something for me:

Who was it that started this thread entitled "Britain Sucks"?

So have you fixed all the problems in your own country before tossing off comments about British problems?

Hypocrite much?

This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, September 19, 2008 3:27 AM (P)

Mikey, I don't think Wulf is malicious, just inexperienced, and still struggling against a not fully shedded set of the misperceptions foisted upon us all by mass media and the public education system.

But credit where credit is due, how many folk actually try to smash the way out of their own plastic bubbles, to reach ugly truths it's so much easier to ignore, deny and insulate ones self from ?

And yes, he comes off rather badly, makes an ass of himself a bit here and there, and catches some chops busting for it, not all of which is undeserved - but you and I are assholes too you know.

Seriously, he does have a point about Britain becoming such a surveillance state, and the whole somewhat ridiculous fear and banning of anything that could concievably be used as a weapon.

That IS, to the point it's gone, is going, more than a bit disturbing, and in a distant sort of way offensive to the american spirit, sure.

But they AIN'T americans, they are a different culture underneath all the surface similarities, and at *this* point in time their Gov't has a somewhat more effective set of checks and balances than ours does - especially in the immediate wake of the abysmal failures of our own.

I wouldn't say they "suck" though, just that they are making some bitter mistakes that history shows will bite them on the ass, just like Chavez is making quite a few of his own by not giving thought to the fact that whoever comes after him is likely going to abuse the excess powers he has usurped to improve the lot of his country and it's people.

Americans in particular are notorious for the mistake of not understanding the actions of other folk in their own country's cultural context, and this does seem to work both ways as most folk from other countries think of us as insane for actually preferring to risk violence and danger in exchange for a greater portion of such rarely used freedoms.

Citizen has concerns about a bunch of cowboy maniacs so closely culturally, politically and economically tied to his own country, and probably more than a few concerns about his own Gov't but to his mind that's more his business than ours.

Some of us have concerns about a bunch of nanny state wanna-be socialists so closely culturally, politically and economically tied to our own country, and probably more than a few concerns about our own Gov't to our mind more our business than his.

But frankly, we got one stinkin planet in all the universe right now, and all of us live on it - long as others live the way THEY want and don't come over here shoving it on us, we can sneer it at from a nice vague distance without undue concern.

It's when somebody goes into the land of another and tries to force their way of life onto another people that EVERYONE has cause for concern, and to be brutally honest right now two countries on this stupid little mudball are the worst for it, and the other one is just a technical bully kicking a weaker country no one seems to really give a shit about...

So yeah, for us to bitch about the way other folk in some other country live their lives and run their governments is a bit out of sorts, especially while trying to shove the american way down the throats of two other countries on a bayonet.

In the context of that, running down someone else's culture while standing in the country doing that shoving - dude, that's like wandering around a redneck variant of oktoberfest wearing a kick me sign, the results are a foregone conclusion.

I have concerns too, but the problem of ridiculous levels (in the opintion of an american) of surveillance and weapon laws in Britain... fuck, man... that's for the BRITISH to solve, don't we got enough problems here ?

I say we focus our efforts HERE and show folks WHY it's such a terrible idea and do the american thing... I don't mean the usual american hypocrisy of saying one thing and doin something else neither, I mean the american SPIRIT, the thing that encouraged the French to build the statue of liberty and send it to us.

I say we smash that shit flat HE

RUE

Friday, September 19, 2008 3:51 AM (P)

Britain's biggest problem is that it's STILL trying to conform to the US model. It's become the love child Maggie and Ronnie never had. Britain would have been better off if the two had just gotten room and fucked each other instead of the country.

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Silence is consent.

KWICKO

Friday, September 19, 2008 4:13 AM (P)

Quote:
...but you and I are assholes too you know.

WHAT?! YOU are an asshole?! I'm shocked to hear that assertion. I mean, I know *I'M* an asshole, but you too?

Say it ain't so!

Mike

This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.

KWICKO

Friday, September 19, 2008 4:15 AM (P)

Quote:
Britain would have been better off if the two had just gotten room and fucked each other...

Thanks a bunch, Rue. That visual is going to be a hard one to shake...[shiver]

Mike

This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.

RUE

Friday, September 19, 2008 4:23 AM (P)

I aim to please !

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Silence is consent.

MRBLUESUN

Friday, September 19, 2008 6:35 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Fredfirma:
But frankly, we got one stinkin planet in all the universe right now, and all of us live on it - long as others live the way THEY want and don't come over here shoving it on us, we can sneer it at from a nice vague distance without undue concern.

It's when somebody goes into the land of another and tries to force their way of life onto another people that EVERYONE has cause for concern, and to be brutally honest right now two countries on this stupid little mudball are the worst for it, and the other one is just a technical bully kicking a weaker country no one seems to really give a shit about...

Thank you Fred for being the voice or reason in what was rapidly turning into a pointless shouting match.

'I am a marxist - of the Groucho persuasion' - Anonymous.

WULFENSTAR

Friday, September 19, 2008 2:17 PM (P)

Thanks Frem,

Again, I don't usually have the time I'd like to be able to articulate as well as I'd like....that happens when you post while at work, or in between the million odd chores that need to get done.

So instead of taking the time to title this thread with something witty and well thought out which in effct says "Hey guys, look how bad its gotten in Britain, we need to watch out so that this kind of stuff doesnt happen here..." I just throw up "Britain Sucks"

Same goes with my posts. I kind of have to "shoot-from-the-hip".

Also, to those that doubt this monitoring stuff isn't getting worse over here....

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-09-18-bioscanner_N.htm

PIRATENEWS

Friday, September 19, 2008 3:09 PM (P)

More insanity from Big Brother HQ:

Quote:
www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2008/09/15/mnspe
ed115.xml

Drivers could have speed limited by satellite devices

London Daily Telegraph
15/09/2008

Drivers could have their speed controlled by satellite to stop them from breaking the limit following a Government trial of new technology.

Cars fitted with the system would have their speed automatically monitored by satellites, which would also be programmed with the speed limits for different roads.

A motorist who tried to accelerate beyond the speed limit would find the system stopping the car from going any faster or issuing a warning instructing them to slow down.

The Department for Transport is set to back the system known as Intelligent Speed Adaptation. It follows lengthy trials conducted in Leeds in where cars have been fitted with the sophisticated satellite navigation system.

The Department for Transport said that the installation of the technology would be voluntary, but it is already in talks with the motor industry over how it could be made available for those who wanted to buy it.

Three types of the technology could be made available.

The first, known as "advisory", would stop short of actually slowing the car down and would instead issue a voice alert reminding the motorist what the speed limit is.

A second version would either apply the brakes or cut the fuel supply to the engine, slowing it down to the speed limit, but a driver would be able to override the system – either by depressing the accelerator pedal firmly or pressing a button.

The third would take over complete control of the car and the driver would not be able to override the system at all.

In related news, the Military Industrial Space Complex plans to lobotomize all humans with Mind Control Helmets. FOR REAL:

Quote:
Soldiers barking orders at each other is so 20th Century. That’s why the U.S. Army has just awarded a $4 million contract to begin developing “thought helmets” that would harness silent brain waves for secure communication among troops. Ultimately, the Army hopes the project will “lead to direct mental control of military systems by thought alone.”

If this sounds insane, it would have been as recently as a few years ago. But improvements in computing power and a better understanding of how the brain works have scientists busy hunting for the distinctive neural fingerprints that flash through a brain when a person is talking to himself. The Army's initial goal is to capture those brain waves with incredibly sophisticated software that then translates the waves into audible radio messages for other troops in the field.

“It’d be radio without a microphone, ” says Dr. Elmar Schmeisser, the Army neuroscientist overseeing the program. “Because soldiers are already trained to talk in clean, clear and formulaic ways, it would be a very small step to have them think that way.”

Yet it’s not as far-fetched as you might think: video gamers are eagerly awaiting a crude commercial version of brain wave technology - a $299 headset from San Francisco-based Emotiv Systems - in summer 2009.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20080915/us_time/thearmystotallyseriousmi
ndcontrolproject

US Army Neurophysiology and Cognitive Neurosciences
Dr. Elmar T. Schmeisser, 919.549.4318, emailaro@arl.army.mil
www.arl.army.mil/www/default.cfm?Action=29&Page=190

"'They're hurting us. Get me out!' The Government was playing with her brain. They opened up her skull and cut into her brain. The only reason you do that is to lobotomize somebody. They did it over, and over..."
-Dr Simon Tam, Firefly

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, September 19, 2008 3:26 PM (P)

Ah, but technology is a sword with TWO edges, my friend...

For every new way to pry into our lives cooked up by the tame hacks of the Feddies, there's already three or more to bollocks up the works cooked up by folks like me.

We've recently discovered a countermeasure to cell phone location tracking, although it has a limited range.

And our newest little toy is a plug in unit that overrides and scrambles all the data to your cars black boxes - all you gotta do is plug it and leave it there, as a plus it's removable if you wanna pull diagnostics on something.

One of the funniest things we did, was upon discovery of the transmission frequency of the camera the local cops were using to monitor an intersection, we ran a patch from the local cable companies porn channel to a second transmitter wired right into the cameras power line.

Even funnier is that the local cops didn't report that shit for MONTHS.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

WULFENSTAR

Friday, September 19, 2008 3:48 PM (P)

To stop them from tracking your cell phone, the only sure way is to pull the battery.

Heheheh, traffic cameras that only show porn...now thats something.

CITIZEN

Friday, September 19, 2008 4:05 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Seriously, he does have a point about Britain becoming such a surveillance state, and the whole somewhat ridiculous fear and banning of anything that could concievably be used as a weapon.

Yeah, and it's driven by worthless lying abominations like The Daily Mail, which was the basis for this thread I believe. It's an irony that seems to pass most people by, but the Daily Mail and other tabloids decry nutty government measures (most of which are either blown out of all proportion or simply lies), then on the next page they'll blow out of all proportion crime figures and call for all knives to be banned and tougher sentencing on 'louts'.

Point is if you want to know the real state of affairs in America, don't watch Foxnews. If you want to know what's really going on in Britain, steer clear of The Daily Mail for pity sake.

Quote:
Americans in particular are notorious for the mistake of not understanding the actions of other folk in their own country's cultural context, and this does seem to work both ways as most folk from other countries think of us as insane for actually preferring to risk violence and danger in exchange for a greater portion of such rarely used freedoms.

I think American's often look at things in terms of Ideology rather than pragmatism. It's expressed in the often called 'can do' attitude, but it's also expressed in the tacit belief that Iraqi's will be greeting American soldiers as liberators...

Quote:
Citizen has concerns about a bunch of cowboy maniacs so closely culturally, politically and economically tied to his own country, and probably more than a few concerns about his own Gov't but to his mind that's more his business than ours.

Some of us have concerns about a bunch of nanny state wanna-be socialists so closely culturally, politically and economically tied to our own country, and probably more than a few concerns about our own Gov't to our mind more our business than his.

You're partly right. Though if you were all right you'd still be part wrong. The actions of my Government don't have half the effects on your country as the actions of yours has on mine. Simply put I have a lot more invested in your Government than you do in mine.

However, I'd actually like to discuss British politics here, but the chances are slim to none. The vast majority of posters round here really don't give a shit, and if they do it's only to say "Britain Sucks". If I want to discuss politics in anyway shape or form it has to be American, because 90% of the posters here couldn't give a shit about anything else, if indeed they even realise there's a world the other side of the US border.

At any rate my countries interests are best served by strong international relations and alliances, they're served by a strong rule of international law and an open and trusted forum for the non-violent airing of international grievances in the shape of the UN. My countries best interests would be served by a strong, confident, pluralistic and democratic United States, with a commitment to international law and Western Enlightenment principles. All those things have been massively undermined by the current flavour of Republican politics, and the current US Administration in particular. Of course I'm going to take an interest, and you know what since your fuck ups are affecting me in a very real way, I have a fucking right too.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

WENDYPOPS

Friday, September 19, 2008 4:57 PM (P)

I find the best place to discuss/read/rant about British politics, as well as a bunch of other interesting stuff. is here: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/ and they've got all the different regions, plus the rest of the world.

Indymedia: "A network of individuals, independent and alternative media activists and organisations, offering grassroots, non-corporate, non-commercial coverage of important social and political issues."

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Its up to the English to fight back.
Will they?
I doubt it. The idea of the King/Queen/Parliment taking care of them is far too ingrained in their culture.

WULFENSTAR

Friday, September 19, 2008 5:03 PM (P)

As I checked thru these sites....

So you are against firearms? The last tool of the patriot?

And why H&K? I own at least 2...lol

WENDYPOPS

Friday, September 19, 2008 5:06 PM (P)

I am not stating my opinion, just showing you that people can and do stand up and do something about what they believe and try to make the world better, as they see it.

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WULFENSTAR

Friday, September 19, 2008 5:10 PM (P)

Ok, I conceed your point. However, and this may piss some folks off, what did all the protesting actually accomplish?

WENDYPOPS

Friday, September 19, 2008 5:17 PM (P)

Well, in most of cases it pisses a lot of cunts off.

It increases public awareness.

It causes trouble (lock ons, trespassing, general disruption, etc.)

And in the case of the awesome protesters hard work outside EDO in Brighton, costs some cunts a shit load of money: http://www.smashedo.org.uk/news.htm

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WULFENSTAR

Friday, September 19, 2008 5:20 PM (P)

I guess Im so used to protests here in D.C. Im kind of jaded...they never accomplish anything except to tie up traffic.

WENDYPOPS

Friday, September 19, 2008 5:26 PM (P)

You should see what people in Italy and Greece are capable of.

Hell, even the riots in France when Sarkozy was elected!:
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/05/369907.html
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/05/369999.html

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WENDYPOPS

Friday, September 19, 2008 5:34 PM (P)

So to sum up: yes, Britain does suck. But people are doing something about it. And the people who aren't doing anything? Don't want to, because they think it's all fine and dandy because they read the fucking Daily Mail.

Also, America sucks just as much... just in a slighty different way.

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PIRATENEWS

Friday, September 19, 2008 5:40 PM (P)

"We must give up liberty for freedom."
-London shopkeeper
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947

Ditto.

That's why the US Army is now invading USA, as allowed by the Posse Commie Act:
www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
www.infowars.com/?p=4626

Don't know if this is good or bad news: Washington DC cop steals $180,000 from Redlight Scameras, tapping into 3.3 million citations costing DC residents $250 million (4 tickets per resident):
www.thenewspaper.com/news/25/2536.asp

50% of Redlight Scameras destroyed by ex govt contractor in District of Criminals:
www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/docs/2007/ats-dcaudit.pdf

WULFENSTAR

Friday, September 19, 2008 5:47 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by WendyPops:
So to sum up: yes, Britain does suck. But people are doing something about it. And the people who aren't doing anything? Don't want to, because they think it's all fine and dandy because they read the fucking Daily Mail.

Also, America sucks just as much... just in a slighty different way.

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(Take note Shitizen,
THIS is how you have an intelligent discourse.)

Thanks Wendy. I agree with you. We all have to fight back if we want this world to be better.

CHRISISALL

Friday, September 19, 2008 5:51 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

(Take note Shitizen,
THIS is how you have an intecourse.)

You're a sick one, Wulf...

Shocked Chrisisall

WENDYPOPS

Friday, September 19, 2008 6:01 PM (P)

Just as a side note, i could easily have replied similarly to Citizen. Because the way you broached this subject was a little... tactless, shall we say?
But i find removing my own opinion from the point and just stating and sharing facts is a lot easier to have people engage with.

However, if you want me to bring my opinions to the table i'm sure we'd be having an entirely different style of conversation.

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WULFENSTAR

Friday, September 19, 2008 6:07 PM (P)

Tactless? Maybe.

Sometimes the only way to get people to listen is AFTER you've punched them in the face...IMHO, of course.

WENDYPOPS

Friday, September 19, 2008 6:10 PM (P)

And some people refuse to listen after repeated punches to the face. Which is why i opt for a different approach.

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WENDYPOPS

Friday, September 19, 2008 6:13 PM (P)

And although i haven't been here long, i would hazzard a guess that the folks here don't need a punch in the face to grasp an opinion that is displayed in an intelligent, non-agressive manner.

I may be wrong.

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CHRISISALL

Friday, September 19, 2008 6:24 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by WendyPops:

I may be wrong.

Only where Wulf & AURaptor are concerned, Miss.

Chrisisall

WULFENSTAR

Friday, September 19, 2008 6:53 PM (P)

Chrissy,

Shhh...adults are talking.

RUE

Friday, September 19, 2008 7:21 PM (P)

Wulfie - now, now, remember, no one likes the teachers pet.

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Silence is consent.

CITIZEN

Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
(Take note Shitizen,
THIS is how you have an intelligent discourse.)

Calling people names is what you think you need for intelligent discourse. Yeah I can see it, you sure as hell obviously don't think intelligent and discourse belong in there...

CITIZEN

Friday, September 19, 2008 8:59 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by WendyPops:
Just as a side note, i could easily have replied similarly to Citizen.

Actually I responded the way I did because Wulf is a troll and not worth talking or listening to. It's why it started a thread called 'Britain sucks' in the first place

.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

KWICKO

Friday, September 19, 2008 11:13 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by WendyPops:
Well, in most of cases it pisses a lot of cunts off.

It increases public awareness.

It causes trouble (lock ons, trespassing, general disruption, etc.)

And in the case of the awesome protesters hard work outside EDO in Brighton, costs some cunts a shit load of money: http://www.smashedo.org.uk/news.htm

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I [heart] WendyPops!

(Remember, I tried to warn you about RWED... Glad you found your way in here anyway!)

Mike

This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:25 AM (P)

Wow, what a wonderfully misinformed, ridiculous thread.Glad I stopped by.

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:38 AM (P)

Quote:
And why H&K?

"H&K, because you suck. And we hate you."

Larry makes some good points in his little rant, and he should know, him and his buddies having quite a few of em.
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/hk-because-you-suck-and-w
e-hate-you/

Btw, his book is pretty good, even if he had to fight to publish since he didn't do the accepted thing and slime around "writers workshops" sucking dick and participating in the usual mutual ego stoke of angsty little weenies who's writing skills are outmatched by most livejournals.

Got kind of a Tremors B-Movie flavor to it, heh heh heh.
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/mhi-sample/

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:43 AM (P)

Wendy and others - I'd actually be quite interested in knowing what my underground resistance types are up to across the pond, to be honest.

I know better than to trust anything the Beeb or the Mail says, and Indymedia tends to be sparse on the details sometimes - I do recall less than fondly that the authorities jacked their servers a while back, too.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1010-25.htm

So yeah, I'd be quite interested in hearing about it from folks "on the ground" as it were, if you care to expound at length - I doubt you'll bore me, and I might even be able to offer some advice on where to stick the knife and how to twist it, yes ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

WULFENSTAR

Saturday, September 20, 2008 3:16 PM (P)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/debates/2988760/The-phrase-
Old-Masters-is-sexist-authors-and-students-are-told.html

PIRATENEWS

Sunday, September 21, 2008 1:07 PM (P)

Quote:
'Thieves' stealing wheelie bins from backgardens turn out to be COUNCIL snoops searching for illegal dustbins

We have a family of 5 and our wheelie bin is emptied once a month.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1057622/Thieves-stealing-wheelie-bins
-gardens-turn-COUNCIL-snoops-searching-illegal-dustbins.html

So THAT'S why They want to ban guns in USA.

Note that the emergency police phone number in UK is 999 = 666. Revelation 9:11 in the Christian Bible is also about Satan. Cops = SATAN!

DIAL 911 AND DIE?

www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/11/14/dial-911-and-die-what-happens-when
-the-police-dont-come/

Quote:
"Mark of the Beast - Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."
-Revelation 13:18, Christian Bible NKJV

"The Oath of Fealty I bind my blood in Satan's hands, All this that lieth betwixt my hands To thee, the Beast, and thy control, I pledge me; body, mind, and soul. Pledge I swear to work my Work abhorred, Careless of all but one reward, The pleasure of the Devil our Lord."
-Aleister "The Beast 666" Crowley 33° Grand Inspector General Scottish Rite of Freemasonry and Frater Superior Baphomet XI°, SATANIC EXTRACTS

"But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim."
—Aleister Crowley, MAGICK in Theory and Practice
www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/Freemasonry/aliester_crowley_33_deg
ree_Mason_knew_about_human_sacrifice.htm

George W Bush is the bastard grandson of Aleister Crowley
www.rense.com/general77/acrow.htm

"Satan. Chief of the fallen angels. Other names for Satan are the devil, Beelzebub, Belial and Lucifer. Modern Satanism has become widespread in circles that pray to the devil and perform elaborate rites in his honor."
-Catholic Pocket Dictionary, Jewish Dell Publishing, 666 Fifth Avenue, NY NY

"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. This is the great dragon of chapter 12, Satan or Azazel. He has a number of names, but in each case, he is the king of all the demons, Lucifer, who became Satan."
-Revelation 9:11, Christian Bible, KJV with Forerunner Commentary

The Pilgrims Progess by John Bunyan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrims_Progress

Elizabeth Sax Coberg Gotha the German Queen of England is the Queen of Babylon (Jewish holy land of Iraq) at Jewish Bohemian Grove

Undercover video Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove and The Order of Death
www.archive.org/details/DSIBG

Boners at Bohemian Grove
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113
http://garageband.com/artist/countercoup

Snuff Kiddie Porn at Bohemian Grove
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6497462494231069386
http://one.revver.com/watch/248515

Moloch.
an ancient Phoenician and Ammonite god, to whom children were sacrificed by burning.
-Webster's New World Dictionary

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he

WULFENSTAR

Monday, September 22, 2008 2:16 PM (P)

Well, there maybe a glimmer of hope.

Unjust laws should NEVER be obeyed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1059071/Mr-Average-breaks-law-
day-speeding-illegal-downloading.html

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, September 22, 2008 2:51 PM (P)

Oh man, lmao...

That pic of the Grove with Shrubs confused look and mashmallows on a stick is just soooo right that it's just wrong.

-F

WULFENSTAR

Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:05 PM (P)

*sigh

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_midlands/7630174.stm

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:16 AM (P)

is this all a joke?

PIRATENEWS

Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:56 AM (P)

www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/notorious/gacy/gacy_1.html

Maybe those clowns will go psycho on their ass? Don't need no gun to kill dozens of sheeple, or politicians.

Quote:
House sales fall to lowest level in 50 years

Earlier this week, property website Rightmove said house prices had continued their downward spiral with the average asking price dropping 1 per cent to £227,438 ($500,000) during the five weeks to September 13.

Further falls in house prices are widely expected, with some predicting that the average home will be worth just £140,000 ($280,000) within the next 18 months.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3067098/House-sales-fall-to-lowest-lev
el-in-50-years.html

I bought my first house in England for $32,000, which was about 35,000 quids. Sold it 3 years later for $65,000/quids. So the price of houses could drop back to those numbers from the 80s and 90s.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1059071/Mr-Average-breaks-law-day-spe
eding-illegal-downloading.html

#1, #3, #6, #7, #10, #17, Guilty - all at the same time.

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