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PIRATENEWS

Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:50 PM

"The Government was playing with her brain."
-Dr. T, Serenity pilot (censored by Sir Rupert Murdock, Jewish Australian Knight of the British Empire MI6)

French pig farmer is NOT cartoon of Muhammed
photo by WorldNetDaily.com

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Blasphemous image posted by http://web.IsraelInsider.com

"WASHINGTON, DC -- The NATO intelligence provocation appearing in the guise of the scurrilous Mohammed cartoons published by the reactionary newspaper Jyllands Posten of Denmark, and then by a series of other European publications, has already done much to mobilize the armies, bases, and treasuries of Europe in support of the lunatic plan to the Bush-neocon clique for a nuclear sneak attack and punitive expedition against Iran over the coming weeks or months. As I warned in a red alert for synthetic terrorism issued on total411.info and other sites in the late afternoon of Feb. 3, this entire affair has been cynically orchestrated by NATO intelligence agencies to set the stage for a new world war. Denmark has been largely a British puppet state over the last two centuries since Lord Nelson burned the Danish fleet in a sneak attack on Copenhagen which put an end to Denmark as an independent power. For the broadest political purposes, provocations coming from Denmark can be thought of as being signed by the warmonger Tony Blair personally. The current Danish neocon regime is in any case a member of Bush's coalition of the willing engaged in the illegal occupation of Iraq.
-Webster Tarpley, Rense.com, "The Mohammed Cartoons - Recruiting Europe For Bush's War On Iran"
http://rense.com/general69/moh.htm

"Government control of Communications and Transportation."
—The Communist Manifesto, 6th Plank (written by Jewish Luciferian Freemason Karl Marx in London England)

"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons. I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations."
-USAma Bin Laden, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/

"I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other human beings as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people."
-Usama Bin Laden, Ummat magazine, September 28, 2001

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Operation Northwoods
James Banford from ABC News reported on Pentagon's Operation Northwoods plot to perp domestic terrorism in USA to blame a foreign nation and "justify" invasion, declassified in 2000
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/7209.php

"In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba. Code named Operation NORTHWOODS, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities. The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro. America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation." The plans had the written approval of all

JAYTEE

Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:29 AM

Fletch2's post is probably the most sagacious and succinct posting I've read yet on this topic. I'd like to add that it's not what the Danes did but what Islamic imams from Denmark did that inflamed this issue and incited the violence. As for what's going on now in the Middle East there's lots of evidence to prove that the people living there barely need an excuse to behave violently and then say they are acting from their religious devotion. The only problem I have with Islam is it's preaching of brotherhood while at the same time being so intolerant of other's beliefs. In the religion I was raised in it is considered a sin to lie or steal and it makes no exceptions as to who you lie to or steal from. In the Koran it is written that it is acceptable to lie or steal from an infidel and in the classic definition of infidel that is any non-muslim. There is no central authority in the Islamic religion and too many imams are spreading hatred of the West in their sermons and fostering violence in the name of their prophet. While I sympathize with their beign offended at the cartoons mocking their prophet and feel that was an innappropriate act I find the violence done in retribution and the calling for the deaths of the cartoonists to be totally over the top and proof that Islam is rife with fanaticism. I keep hearing about "moderate" muslims and a few have spoken out lately but it's sad that it's taken this long for the moderates to speak out. Too many seeds of hate have already been planted in the minds of youth in the Middle East for it to turn the tide easily. I fear we are heading toward the brink where it will become very, very bloody before there is a resolution to this problem. And as for being offended, I'm still waiting for an apology from the muslim world for letting the Taliban blow up ancient buddhist statues at Bamiyan.

Jaytee

GIANTEVILHEAD

Sunday, February 12, 2006 5:33 AM

I can think of two words, hypocrisy and irony. There's hypocrisy on both sides but it's really much worse with the Muslims rioters considering how they regularly profane against others with their open celebration of terrorist attacks against the west, demonization of the Jews, some Muslim "newspapers" have the audacity to claim that the Jews were in league with the Nazis, not to mention how there's almost no reaction from those outraged rioters when a Muslim terrorist attacks a Mosque in Iraq. The irony is of course, how they're basically protesting against the very rights that they lack, they're basically supporting their own oppression.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

CITIZEN

Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:20 PM

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Originally posted by Cartoon:
Well, I can't speak for the Qur'an, as I've never read it, and was never a practicing a Muslim, but I can refer you to the statement of a man who was a practicing Muslim, Zachariah Anani (from http://www.shoebat.com/anani.php)...

"A lot of people think that Islam is okay," says Anani, and "that those who are making these terrorist attacks are not from Islam. It's actually the other way around. The people who are nice are not really true Muslims—all you have to do is read the doctrine. Chapter (9) of the Qur'an is nothing but a declaration of war."

Can I tell you something that is apparent to me about this man? He's a psychotic, sounds to me like he enjoyed killing and it also sounds like he now blames Islam for his actions. Letting himself off easy, religion made me do it, you can't blame me! That seems to go counter to your earlier statements regarding 'the Elephant in the room'. I'll say it loud and clear, Zachariah Anani does not know what he is talking about. He knows and thinks about Islam only what he was told to know and think about Islam from the 'religious' leaders who indoctrinated him into hating Jews and Christians in the first place.

Fundamentalist seldom follow their own religion particularly closely, while believing they follow it more exactly than anyone else, Zachariah Anani doesn't dissuade me from this view. Think about it, if you were to ask an Inquisitor from the Spanish Inquisition who follows Christianity better, you or them, what do you think they'd say?

Fundamentalist Christians aren't all that better than Fundamentalist Muslims, though they don't receive the extremely one sided coverage afforded Muslims. I could also argue that they are more dangerous than Islamic Fundamentalists, given their strong links to the American Government and vast resources. What about Michael Evans who's calling for Global war in the name of Christ; or Pat Robertson's calls for the Assassination of the Venezuelan president? How would you feel about people calling Christianity evil because of the actions and words of these (frankly) nut jobs? Don't forget that they also believe that they are true Christians and you (unless you support global war and assassinations, which you don't seem too) are not.

Yes there is some passages in Surah At-Tawba(Repentance, Dispensation) (chapter 9) of the Qur'an that can be twisted in to allowing attacks on non-Muslims, as it is passages dealing largely with Muslims in Jihad.

I'll give you this quote, which is probably the worst, for free:

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.[[]9:5[]]

But to temper it here's something not all that different from the Bible:

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.[[]2 Chronicles 15:12-13[]]

The truth is that for every passage of violence in the Qur'an there's at least one in the Bible, possibly more, simply because the Qur'an is much shorter than the Bible.

I'm not trying to attack Christianity, well I am trying to attack Christianity, but not because I think Christianity is evil, but because I think neither Christianity nor Islam is. Seriously if I thought it had any relevance I'm fairly certain I could quote ex-Christians who have turned to Islam. There are plenty of people, who can turn on Christianity and call it evil, and a lot of evil has been done in its name, but I'm guessing that you would refute that that means Christianity was evil.

If you believe that exposing your children to violence is a problem, by all means keep them away from the Bible.
Rev. Charles Hender

CITIZEN

Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:28 PM

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Originally posted by JayTee:
In the Koran it is written that it is acceptable to lie or steal from an infidel and in the classic definition of infidel that is any non-muslim.

This needs to be backed up by a quote, just because some nut job Imam says it doesn't make it so.

I fear the Fundamentalists Christians in the American Government far more than Fundamentalist Muslims.

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WALKERHOUND

Monday, February 13, 2006 6:03 PM

thanks fletch2 for the insightful point.

citizen one thing i think you keep doing is trying to make the case for similarity between the two. it's kind of like the old saw, "life is bad in communist Russia, but it's just as bad in capitalist USA". it's not about trying to say that there are no terrorists or bigots or violent fringe groups that are not Muslim. off courser there are (the problem with the world is that it has people in it, and people are by there nature crazy). but right now in this time and place the danger is from loosely allied groups that share a come ideology (give or take a few points between groups) and it happens that that ideology is based on a radical militant version of Islam. now this dose not nesacarly say any thing definitive about the religion (or cultural for that matter) of Islam, as you have pointed out all religions and political philosophical movements in the world today have some type of skeleton in there closet.

by the same token it doesn’t make much sense (to me at lest) to compare what a movement/group is doing right now....last year, two months ago or today with what some other movement/group did decades or cintrys ago. to in a word excuse the fallings of somebody or something from modern times by use of an example form the pre modern times. the thing about the good old days is that they weren’t good it was a nasty dangers time to live. the idea is to move beyond that.

now i had some other stuff i kind of wanted to say (about the use of "fundamentalist" in regards to believing that only one religion is right for example) but most of it is more a discussion of religion in general. and i think we might have already gone a little far a field from the original topic.

oh ya, sorry about the spelling ya'll

CITIZEN

Monday, February 13, 2006 6:58 PM

Excuse me if this response is a little combative, but I'm beginning to get annoyed at having to explain this. I am NOT excusing Muslim fanaticism, terrorism or anything else. I'm saying that Islam is no worse than (specifically) Judaism or Christianity and if you wish to say Islam is evil you have to say all religions are evil. Whether their violent period is today tomorrow one hundred years from now or six hundred years in the past it makes no odds to the question "is Islam more evil than Christianity?"

Frankly they were still people and they still had a choice. The violence comes mainly from Muslims living in an environment similar to medieval Christian Europe, so I don’t see how that can be used as an argument to excuse Christianity and not Islam. I’ll say it again, why is Islam demonised because some psycho says “I speak for Islam and we need to kill non-believers” but it’s considered reasonable to excuse Christianity when a psychotic Christian fundamentalist calls for global Christian war? What’s the difference, save for the Muslims have this strange religion that the majority of White Westerners know nothing about?

The logical rebuttal to your argument is that it is culture that is at fault NOT religion, we can look at history and see that given the right cultural circumstances Christians are just as violent as Muslims and that Muslims who are also apart of Western culture (not just who live in western society, those Muslims that actually participate in western culture) aren’t involved in the Terrorism anymore than Christians are. So it logically follows that if Western culture was more like Middle Eastern culture Western Christians would act more like Middle Eastern Muslims (and indeed Middle Eastern Christians). Given this how can anyone say Islam is evil but Christianity is not?

The fact is that great evil has been (and is still being) done in the name of Christianity and Islam, we excuse Christianity of its failings, and for Islam's we demonise it. Why? The only answer I can give is Hypocrisy.

Every argument for why Islam is evil can be levelled on Christianity and every argument used to excuse Christianity can be employed to excuse Islam. So the question is as I see it simple:

Should we ban all religions because they are inherently evil, or should we let people believe in the religion of their choice and accept that religions are not inherently evil, but that some people will do extremely evil things whether they are Muslim, Christian, Jew, Scientologist, Atheist, Agnostic, Wicca or called Brian?

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FLETCH2

Monday, February 13, 2006 10:19 PM

The BBC assembled a timeline

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Cartoons: Divisions and inconsistencies
By Paul Reynolds
BBC News website World Affairs correspondent

The "cartoon crisis" has demonstrated the gulf between sections of the West and the Muslim world, revealed divisions within Islam itself and showed inconsistencies by advocates of both sides.

A look back at the way the issue developed shows the key moments in what was a slow burn towards a crisis.

For this did not just spring upon the world, and decisions taken in the course of the build-up materially influenced the eventual outcome.

It began, in fact, before 30 September 2005, the day the original 12 cartoons of Muhammad were published in Jyllands-Posten.

Inconsistency

And here came the first inconsistency on one side.

More than two years previously, in April 2003, a Danish cartoonist Christoffer Zieler offered some cartoons of Jesus Christ to Jyllands-Posten, Denmark's largest daily paper and generally seen as right-wing.

One of the paper's editors told Zieler: "I don't think Jyllands-Posten's readers will enjoy the drawings. As a matter of fact, I think that they will provoke an outcry. Therefore, I will not use them."

No such concern prevailed when Jyllands-Posten decided to solicit drawings of Muhammad after a children's author, Kare Bluitgen, had been unable to find illustrators for his book about the Prophet (written with the intention of widening understanding). The illustrators refused either because they knew that portraits of the Prophet were against Islamic tradition, or were afraid of reprisals.

Internationalisation

Publication led to immediate protests by Muslim leaders in Denmark - and an immediate effort by them to internationalise the issue.

Imam Raed Hlayhel gave an interview to the news website of the Arabic channel Al Jazeera and said: "This type of democracy is worthless for Muslims. Muslims will never accept this kind of humiliation."

The paper's editor-in-chief Carsten Juste replied: "We live in a democracy. Satire is accepted in this country, and you can make caricatures. Religion shouldn't set any barriers on that sort of expression."

At this stage the row was largely confined to Denmark. Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen refused to get involved and declined a meeting with eleven Arab ambassadors mobilised by the Danish imams.

On 17 October, a curious thing happened. Six of the cartoons were prominently reprinted in an Egyptian newspaper, al-Fagr. The paper said they were racist and would insult Muslims everywhere and predicted an outcry. However, at this stage, nothing happened on the streets. There was no public outcry.

It took concerted action by the Danish Muslim leaders to effect a change.

Wider audience

They decided to take their complaints both about the cartoons and about the position of Muslims in Denmark to other audiences. In December, encouraged by an imam well known in Denmark, Abu Laban, a delegation went to the Middle East where they saw leading Islamic scholars and political leaders.

They took along the cartoons as evidence but they also included in a 43-page dossier three other drawings which were even more insulting and which had not been published in Jyllands-Posten.

The dossier revealed inconsistencies of it own. It contained some placatory statements to the effect that the delegation simply wanted "stable relations, and a flourishing Denmark for all that live here."

But it also contained some rude remarks about Denmark including the sentence "If you say that they are all infidels, then you are not wrong".

The 'non-cartoons'

The three extra drawings were said to have been sent to Muslims in Denmark as insults. However one of them, apparently showing the prophet with the face of a pig, has been traced to a photo of the winner of a pig-squealing contest in the French Pyrenees last summer.

It remains unclear as to how this last picture, a grey photocopy, came to such prominence but it does seem to have played a role in the raising of the temperature.

CITIZEN

Monday, February 13, 2006 11:01 PM

There's no argument that Radical Imams are stirring this up, whether thats in Denmark or the Middle East.

Although this comment is funny:

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The paper's editor-in-chief Carsten Juste replied: "We live in a democracy. Satire is accepted in this country, and you can make caricatures. Religion shouldn't set any barriers on that sort of expression."

Except of course if it's Christianity that is the religion in question, as it appears.

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WALKERHOUND

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:29 AM

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I'm saying that Islam is no worse than (specifically) Judaism or Christianity and if you wish to say Islam is evil you have to say all religions are evil. Whether their violent period is today tomorrow one hundred years from now or six hundred years in the past it makes no odds to the question "is Islam more evil than Christianity?"

you say i'm blaming the religion of Islam for the problems of the coulter of... what? the middle east? first of all Islam is a common theme, many of the country’s i'm talking about are self identified as "Islamic" nations. levying that aside i'm not sure you can so cleanly sepreart the two coulter is informed by religion, religion directs culter. culter is a combination of many factors history, politics, religion all pushing and pulling on each other much like the planets of the solar system.

two shibboleths that you seam to subscribe to.

the radical's are the minority and vast majority of the Muslim population is made up of moderates that are opposed to there actions. first what are you basing that on? don't get me wrong i hope to Heaven, honestly i hope like you can't believe that this is true. almost every politiation devotes a part off every speech about the war on terror to this supposition, but what are they going on. hope, political crectines, common wisdom, or is there some sort of prof. then agine if it is true it is one thing to say i wont personally get involved in that sort of action but with out the follow through to then say but i will get personally involved in combating it. well with out that i don't know how much i care realy.

the grate cultreal/religuous forces of this world are basically the same (at lest in regards to actions). well how, why do you say that. in the hear and now, how many conters or part's of countries run there judicial systems under cannon law? going by majority whether a country is western or Islamic were are you more likely to find: judicial maiming as an ongoing punishment. the outlawing of political opposition. the outlawing of non "correct" religious beliefs and practices. were was the last man sent to jail and given hundreds of lashes for in part "practicing witch craft" and disrespecting the religion of _____. were is your wife most likly to be beaten with a stick on the street while you are berated for letting her go out side dressed like that. no i see no way that the cultures of the west and the cultures of "Islam" are equal.

the Muslims in western culter that do not behave like this (the fact that some do is neither her nor there. agine people are crazy like that). the problem is theas are also people that are hated as much or more so than us other infidels. the muluas and imamns that think i would be appropriate to burn beat and kill at the current time feel (and have stated numers times) that those Muslims that don't join with them (the moderate or westernized followers of Islam) are them selves infidels. matter of fact it just gose to show that there are muslams that don't live there lives as if it is the 1300's.

WALKERHOUND

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:45 AM

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Except of course if it's Christianity that is the religion in question, as it appears.

get ready i'm about to annoy people.

i'm not as...excised about this as some. maybe i'm not as cynical is i think i am.

but i will say this Denmark while it dose have a farley large and i believe growing non Christian population. it is still a majority Christian (this included the nominal coulter Christians) nation. also with the nature of the mag in question (which seams to be at lest right leaning) the clear majority of there readers and subscribers would be of some description Christian. in other words it could easily be just a wish not to adversely affect sales. like the man said he didn't think there readers would be interested in it.

also my understanding is that it they went' looking for the Mohamed pic's for a specific editor. brought about by the original author being unable to find anybody to do the illustration for them (in other words thay were trying to be provocative in the first place).

well my 2 cents.

FLETCH2

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:08 AM

Also has to be said that in the US you can watch Christ fighting Santa Claus on South Park and even in the deep south nobody is burning buildings.

In the UK we frequently do things that are at least sacriligous without riots? Remember the not the 9 O'Clock news sketch "General Synods The life of Monty Python" and "Are you a Gay Christian?" Or the Spitting Image God or the Pope?

I argue that expecting an Arab culture 600 years "younger" than Christianity to behave as we do now is perhaps expecting too much. I also think a lot of it is being encouraged by some Arab governments. Muslims actually in Denmark I think have a right to be upset, as I'm sure Christians would be of some depictions of Christ. I expect them to complain, boycott even demonstrate, not to try to use this to enflame public opinion elsewhere.

When the Spitting Image Pope played his banjo on TV British Catholics didnt try to provoke Italians to burn the British Embassy in Rome, if they found it offensive they used the mechanism our society has to protest. What these Imans in Denmark were doing was the religious equivalent of running and telling tales to your mum rather than fight their own battles. Rather than use the mechanisms for peacefull protest in Denmark they tried to enhance their power by getting others to attack Danish assets abroad. It's the Bully Pulpit method.

CITIZEN

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by Walkerhound:
the radical's are the minority and vast majority of the Muslim population is made up of moderates that are opposed to there actions. first what are you basing that on?

It's quite simple really, the fact that the majority are always moderates, no matter what religion they believe, you never find the majority as extremists, that’s why they're called extremists, if the extreme was the norm, it wouldn't be an extreme.

Further more there are more Muslims OUTSIDE of the Middle East, and it's plain that not all Middle Eastern Muslims are extremists.

But since you believe that politicians are making the adverse case, here are Bush Jr’s own words for you:

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"Some call this evil Islamic radicalism; others, militant Jihadism; still others, Islamo-fascism. Whatever it's called, this ideology is very different from the religion of Islam. This form of radicalism exploits Islam to serve a violent, political vision: the establishment, by terrorism and subversion and insurgency, of a totalitarian empire that denies all political and religious freedom."

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almost every politiation devotes a part off every speech about the war on terror to this supposition, but what are they going on. hope, political crectines, common wisdom, or is there some sort of prof.

Maybe in America, but before you or the politicians wish me to accept that the Fundamentalists are in the majority you’re going to have to show ME proof, not just empty political rhetoric.

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then agine if it is true it is one thing to say i wont personally get involved in that sort of action but with out the follow through to then say but i will get personally involved in combating it. well with out that i don't know how much i care realy.

What are you saying? That moderate Muslims aren't combating the extremists? Maybe your media doesn't carry those stories (which should be a question in and of it self) but mine certainly does and I hear about it pretty much daily.

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the grate cultreal/religuous forces of this world are basically the same (at lest in regards to actions). well how, why do you say that. in the hear and now, how many conters or part's of countries run there judicial systems under cannon law? going by majority whether a country is western or Islamic were are you more likely to find: judicial maiming as an ongoing punishment. the outlawing of political opposition. the outlawing of non "correct" religious beliefs and practices. were was the last man sent to jail and given hundreds of lashes for in part "practicing witch craft" and disrespecting the religion of _____. were is your wife most likly to be beaten with a stick on the street while you are berated for letting her go out side dressed like that. no i see no way that the cultures of the west and the cultures of "Islam" are equal.

I never compared the current cultures of the west and the Middle East, in fact that is pretty much the complete opposite of what I did. I stated quite clearly that it was culture NOT religion that was the problem. How much more clearly can I put it? It seems you are reading into my post what you want to find?

Frankly in order to demonise Islam and excuse Christianity you have to demonstrate that the same does not happen under strict Christian law, it doesn't matter if that is today or a millennium ago, because the religions are still the same.

We are now living in a secular society and culture in the west, where Christianity has a diminishing influence on our behaviour, in order to make a fair comparison between the religions of Islam and Christianity you have to look at western culture when it was not secular and when it was operating under Christian law.

Frankly people are no better off under strict Christian law, so how can you say that Islam is at fault but Christianity isn't? It seems to me that the problem is using a religion as law, not what religion that happens to be. Thus it makes no sense to me to accuse Islam of bein

PREY

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:05 AM

Ok I think we have to take into account whats really going on here. This is my theory. Senior Al Quida leadership obviously looked at this situation and decided to send out antagonist to whip the public into a fury over this, spark violent demonstrations to provoke severe reactions from western countrys to condem islamic states and their people to then in turn spark even more severe reactions from the people (Islamic / eastern) to ultimatley spark the final jihad and cause open war in all countrys.
(Paranoid Hollywood scenario)

My view on this is kind of crude but im a simple man. Coming from a western country Ill put it like this. If there is a religion that calls for the destruction of your people and your culture, to me that defines a enemy, if the nations that harbor this religion are terroist states where the people prove every day they are willing to kill for their beliefs, that pretty much defines itself as a very dangerous enemy to my people. Now these peoples behavior is traced all the way to the root casue of their religion.
Basically theres two solutions.

1. Convince these people their religion is wrong and evil and make them switch (Espically considering their religion was founded hundreds of years after other religions proving to me that its obviously not the correct religion (Hey look at joe he has a cool religion, lets start our own and tell people it was the real one!!))

2. To totally eliminate this threat and provide stability and safety to not only your country but to the world.

You are never going to be able to coexist with people who want your world and your culture to be destroyed. It is written into their culture at the most basic of levles. What Hitler did to the jews was a truley awful thing. But what happens if the jews were evil predators who preyed on the innocent in the name of false rightousness? Then maybe it wouldnt be such a bad thing, I just think that unless people smarten up and stop being so ridiculous the scenario of mass unified genociadal armies is a possibility and one im willing to back if people cannot except the fact they must coexist, and still decide they want to wipe my people off the face of the planet.

Cant we all just get along??

CITIZEN

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 AM

Islam doesn't call for our destruction, and Islam isn't evil, like all religions it has the potential to be twisted or misinterpreted into something evil. I'll go out on a limb and say at least half the problems of the world today are a direct result of the expansion of Christian empires yesterday, especially in places like the Middle East and Africa.

So if you wish to call Islam evil, fine, so is Christianity.

Prey since you've already invoked Godwin’s law by mentioning the Nazis I'll run with it. The biggest reason I'm here defending the RELIGION of Islam to the hilt is because of Hitler and his final solution. The media coverage afforded Islam and Muslims strikes me as so similar to Anti-Jew Nazi propaganda it scares me deeply. You talk about Islam being a great enemy, well my friend that's EXACTLY what the majority of Germans thought about Jews.

Here’s an actual slogan used in German media of the time to illustrate my point:
"The Jew is our greatest enemy, beware of the Jew."

Der Sturmer (prominent Nazi propaganda paper) ran contests encouraging German children to write in. One of those letters from a little girl read like this:
"People are so bothered by the way we're treating the Jews. They can't understand it, because they are God's creatures. But cockroaches are also God's creatures, and we destroy them."

Or another article that sounds similar not just to what you have written, but also to what permeates the media today. This is the first paragraph to "Die Juden sind schuld!"("The Jews are Guilty!") by Joseph Goebbels, first printed in the weekly newspaper Das Reich on the 16th of November 1941:
The historic responsibility of world Jewry for the outbreak and widening of this war has been proven so clearly that it does not need to be talked about any further. The Jews wanted war, and now they have it. But the Führer's prophecy of 30 January 1939 to the German Reichstag is also being fulfilled: If international finance Jewry should succeed in plunging the world into war once again, the result will be not the Bolshevization of the world and thereby the victory of the Jews, but rather the destruction of the Jewish race in Europe.

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Originally posted by Prey:
1. Convince these people their religion is wrong and evil and make them switch (Espically considering their religion was founded hundreds of years after other religions proving to me that its obviously not the correct religion (Hey look at joe he has a cool religion, lets start our own and tell people it was the real one!!))

Yes Christians should give up their religion, the Druids were around, what a thousands years beforehand, and then you have the Religion of the Ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians. There’s the Sumerians, Babylonians and Persians who all had their own religions long before Christianity. Buddhism is older than Christianity too, so obviously it is right and Christianity is wrong. Is this really what passes as an argument?

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2. To totally eliminate this threat and provide stability and safety to not only your country but to the world.

The Jews are responsible for the war. The treatment they receive from us is hardly unjust. They have deserved it all.
Joseph Goebbels, 1941.

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What Hitler did to the jews was a truley awful thing. But what happens if the jews were evil predators who preyed on the innocent in the name of false rightousness?

According to Hitler and Nazi propaganda they were. Where do you get the idea Islam wants to harm you...?

But yeah, Hitler’s fine example is defiantly one we want to emulate...

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Then maybe it wouldnt be such a bad thing, I just think that unless people smarten up and stop being so ridiculous the scenario of mass unified genociadal armies is a possibility and one im willing to back if people cannot except the fact they must coexist, and still decide they want to wipe my people off the face of the planet.

This is by far the scariest thing anyone has ever said on these forums. Pe

PREY

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:57 AM

All im saying is if people want to kill and cause trouble (The Extreme), and we cant get them to listen to reason, do we allow them to keep causing trouble or do we destroy them?

Heres a analogy, you and your family decide you want to adopt a pet, you go to the pound, you see a ragged dog who looks kind of mean, but you feel bad for him, you decide to adopt him, give him a good home show him a good life, maybe the dog dosnt want anything to do with you and never wanted to be adopted in the first place, but you did it because you knew if you didnt try to help him he would have been put to sleep. So you get the dog home and he starts biting and hurting your family and children, you try to teach him, you try to give him chances, but it continues, finally he mauls one of your children so bad you decide to bring him in the back yard and shoot him, knowing he would just be killed off at the pound.

Im sick of seeing the kids get bit, im sick of seeing the dog get reprimanded, its time to take it out back and put it down for the good of the family.

And I would appreciate it if you didnt compare my scenario to hitler vs the jews, this is totally different, the jews werent firebombing german school houses and cafes, suicide bombing german soldiers in cars to provoke the german reaction, I sympathize with the jews and agree the germans are evil and Hitler should forever be spit on.

You say this is the scariest thing ever said on this forum, but to me what is scary is people getting away with murdering the innocent, murdering people trying to help other people, and you thinking those doing such evil should be left unpunished??? Round em up and put em in camps?? I think they should be executed in the cold dawn of a desert morning overlooking the graveyard nation they helped create.

CARTOON

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:11 PM

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All im saying is ... (massive deletion for sake of brevity) they helped create.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

(I apologize for vastly trimming your post, but this thread already takes weeks to load for me. And besides, I agreed with all of it, anyhow.)

CITIZEN

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:39 PM

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Originally posted by Prey:
Im sick of seeing the kids get bit, im sick of seeing the dog get reprimanded, its time to take it out back and put it down for the good of the family.

And if the family of which you speak happens to go around killing and mauling dogs?

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And I would appreciate it if you didnt compare my scenario to hitler vs the jews, this is totally different, the jews werent firebombing german school houses and cafes, suicide bombing german soldiers in cars to provoke the german reaction, I sympathize with the jews and agree the germans are evil and Hitler should forever be spit on.

How about you argue against what I say, rather than the argument that you wanted to hear. I never said the situations of the Jews and the Nazis and the Muslims and the West were the same, I said the propaganda currently being used against Muslims and Islam is remarkably similar to Nazi propaganda used against Jews and Judaism.

I'm sorry you don't like it but if you knew anything about Islam and saw what was being said about Islam in the popular press you'd realise how similar the propaganda actually is.

Also, saying I don't like it isn't an argument to the contrary, I don't like it, I don't like the fact that we as a people still have learnt anything from Nazi Germany.

But here we go; I like this little comment, the Germans ARE evil. Not the Nazis were evil, the Germans ARE...
Ever been too Germany? I have, lived and worked. The Germans aren't evil. You do enjoy labeling anyone and anything that isn't you evil.

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You say this is the scariest thing ever said on this forum, but to me what is scary is people getting away with murdering the innocent, murdering people trying to help other people, and you thinking those doing such evil should be left unpunished???

Yes, me too but I'm not the one who said they'd support global war (that's you) or suggesting murder or anything else (again that's you). My point is and always has been the Islam is not an evil religion, and by demonising Islam we're moving dangerously close to the fourth Reich.

It is also somewhat amusing to me that you think all the Western powers are trying to do is help other people. You obviously have done no research on the Iraq war outside of Fox News, and have no historical perspective whatsoever.

If the Iraq war was fought purely to help the poor Iraqis (which it wasn't) it would be the first war in history fought for that reason. The war in Iraq was fought for:

Oil
Rebuilding contracts for American companies
Protecting Western Interests

Note the absence of "bring democracy to the fuzzy-wuzzys or some such". That is at worst an excuse to put a happy face on this war for them that'll believe it, and at best a happy side effect.

So yeah, I'm sick of people excusing and supporting murders, but that ain't what I'm doing, that's what YOU are doing.

But you’re right; we've certainly helped a lot of Iraqis (off this mortal coil). I realise you want to see it as all their fault, you are unable to take responsibility yourself for things done in your name, but I'm afraid reported casualty rates for Iraqi CIVILIANS since the beginning of the war is between 28427 and 32041. But hey it's alright they're subhuman dogs, right.

And of course we’ve suffered so much more…

So anyway you want to call Islam evil then fine, Christianity is also evil, as is Judaism, Buddhism and in fact all religions.

Some Christian extremism:
Uganda:
Christian rebels of the Lord's Resistance Army are conducting a civil war in the north of Uganda. Their goal is a Christian theocracy whose laws are based on the Ten Commandments. They abduct about 2,000 children a year who are enslaved and/or raped.

Northern Ireland:
After 3,600 killings and assassinations over 30 years, some progress has been made in the form of a ceasefire and an independent status for the country.

Kosovo:
There is a lot of evidence to suggest Serbian Orthodox Christians have committed mass murder again

PREY

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:25 PM

You can tie me up in fancy snares of words all day long, this is a basic point in all your stuttering around the fact to make yourself look intellegent is unneccesary. I say Kill people who want to kill us, You can say no, or agree, you dont have to quote history and go on a giant binge picking me apart.

If you want to read between the lines with Iraq its pretty simple (Yes you brought it up), yes we did it to help ourselves mainly, but the goal to help ourselves will benefit all the world. I belive that the stabalization of Iraq will slowly lead to the the stabalization of the entire middle east as people slowly see that its better to be free of the yoke of cruel governments. Opressed people crying out will give the US reason to launch further invasions in the name of good and set up puppet states, so eventually we will stabalize a region long hostile towards us, and guess what, we might gain ourselves some natural resources. Did you think we were going to destroy regiemes of evil and build new infastructure for free?? Our the lives of our men and woman defending our country so cheap that we can expect to gain nothing in our endavors? Of course not. People act like its a bad thing we might get some oil out of this, or whatever else.

Would you go kill your friends husband who was beating her and ruining her life, and then build her a entire new house and expect nothing in return??

P.S

I apologize for saying the german people, obviously I was referring to the Nazi's.

And give me a break with the nazi / jew comparisons, im talking about eliminating warring terroists, not a innocent race. I dont want to kill arabians, I dont want a holocaust aganst the Arabs or whatever race is in question.

CARTOON

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:54 PM

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Originally posted by Prey:
but the goal to help ourselves will benefit all the world.

The U.S. got nothing out of the First World War, yet our boys shed their blood on the fields of France for a war that accomplished nothing for anyone -- and, if anything, just planted the seeds for the next one.

The U.S. emerged as a global power out of the Second World War, but only because everyone else was fighting at home. When you fight at home, your infrastructure gets smashed, your people get displaced, etc. But the U.S. did not enter the Second World War with the consideration of emerging as a global power. As a matter-of-fact, the U.S. army was ranked around 17th in 1939 (below Poland's). And for the first several years of that war, we were losing. If not for the grace of God, that we were not being attacked at home (having two vast oceans separating us from the two aggressors), and that we had a huge industrial infrastructure to support our military, we could've easily fallen to the same fate as Poland, France or the Philippines.

And what did we do after the war? Did we colonize Germany and Japan, and make them our 49th & 50th states? No. We helped rebuild them. Who else do you know defeats an aggressor nation, then spends billions to help rebuild them?

If the U.S. military was like most others throughout history, it would've raped the land, taken everything, and left nothing but ashes after the defeat of its enemies. It never has.

How people can't see that is beyond my understanding. In my opinion, anyone who thinks the U.S. does this for its own glory is firing a few pistons short in their engine compartment.

CITIZEN

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:43 PM

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Originally posted by Prey:
You can tie me up in fancy snares of words all day long, this is a basic point in all your stuttering around the fact to make yourself look intellegent is unneccesary.

This is very funny. Play the plain speaking valiant local fighting the good fight against the crazy city slickers card all you want, but just so you know it doesn't impress me and it doesn't really work either, I'm afraid those darn Hollywood movies lied.

All this sentence says to me is that you are unable to argue against what I said, so you must resort to playing games, because you could never admit you were wrong now could you.

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I say Kill people who want to kill us, You can say no, or agree, you dont have to quote history and go on a giant binge picking me apart.

No, this is just an attempt to simplify a very complex situation in an attempt to win a debate that you know you can't win. Pre-emptive action is not a good reason to start a war, if a nation attacks you, you attack them right back, that doesn't mean if a nation or people say I hate you, you have the right to go kill them.

If everyone went around pre-emptively attacking other nations the world would have been reduced to atomic slag long ago. The only justifiable reason for going to war is if you are attacked, thus there are no wars where all participants are justified in fighting.

Oh and it was far from a binge of picking you apart, it was just a little, and it wasn't hard at all, I put this down to the fact that all your doing is regurgitating political rhetoric and propaganda which you don't even really understand.

Good parrot.

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If you want to read between the lines with Iraq its pretty simple (Yes you brought it up), yes we did it to help ourselves mainly, but the goal to help ourselves will benefit all the world.

You said all we're doing is trying to help people, Iraq is a fairly big recent event where we supposedly tried to help people, so no and you brought it up. You brought it up by suggesting that no one in the Middle East has a right to be just a little bit angry at the Western world.

How arrogant of you though, what’s good for me is good for the world. Sounds like the pathology of you common garden dictator. Wake up; there are plenty of other people living in free societies who are glad not to be you. Did you learn nothing from Serenity?

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I belive that the stabalization of Iraq will slowly lead to the the stabalization of the entire middle east as people slowly see that its better to be free of the yoke of cruel governments.

Yeah the Middle East is waaay more stable now...

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Did you think we were going to destroy regiemes of evil and build new infastructure for free?? Our the lives of our men and woman defending our country so cheap that we can expect to gain nothing in our endavors?

WTF. WTF seriously. Your defending imperialism? What fucking planet are you living on?

Half the problems of the world are hangovers from European Imperialism so now that the US is building its own empire you suddenly think everything’s going to workout for the best?

If you really think any of that puts the war in Iraq in a good light there’s no point in continuing because our views on right and wrong are entirely different and incompatible. It sounds like you’re stuck in the European imperialist age:
It’s okay to invade someone else’s country, slaughter them and pillage their natural resources because in return we're civilising the savage.

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Would you go kill your friends husband who was beating her and ruining her life, and then build her a entire new house and expect nothing in return??

We blew up the house, not they, we. We have no right to expect to make out on this deal, this was blatant Imperialism and under the guise of pre-emptive action which is shaky enough as it is.

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I apologize for saying the german people, obviously I was referring to the Nazi's.

I suspected that, the reason I called

CARTOON

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:02 PM

Prey, have you ever tried explaining the concept of color to a blind person? It's frustrating, isn't it. You know exactly what it is, but no matter how hard you try, they're never going to get it.

Do you really think that anyone who can defend rioting, burning and infantile, tantrum-throwing behavior (over a cartoon) is ever going to understand that civilized people simply do not behave this way -- whatever the offense?

As someone else has already pointed out here, Jesus is blasphemed on an almost daily basis in our country by our own media and "entertainment" (I believe the example they sited was from "The Simpsons" -- and it happens all the time). Civilized people (I'd like to think that includes me -- most of the time), avoid the source of offense. We do not act in the manner described above. You and I understand that. Apparently, others do not -- and will find reason to excuse it ad naseum.

There's a point when one has realize one's limitations, abandon the hopeless cause, and move onto more realistic endeavors.

Otherwise, it's just gonna' damage your calm.

PREY

Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:16 AM

Citizen, if I had more time (As in your situation to me) I could easily take every paragraph you type, look up and site sources that go aganst the point your trying to prove (not to mention make me look way super cool !!), use a few big words and come up with the perfect rebutle to everything you say, but I wont and im not, I was here to put out my origional point, and honestly, we both know we can just keep running around in circles so im going to stop here. I dont want to argue with you I just wanted to throw my opinion out, if you dont look it good, I didnt expect alot of people to, I know its extreme. But spare me the holy crusader im going to rip you apart and reform your ideas with my internet logic, its not working.

Cartoon makes some very interesting points in his statement, maybe the US aint perfect, but ya know what, I dont see other countrys rebuilding and helping other nations on the scale that we have done it (And obviously help do threw history). Also since you wanna quote the typical "America wants t3h oil" crap at me, maybe youd like to touch on the subject on the billions of dollars of of illegal oil france got its grity paws on threw manituplation of a little program called oil for food and however many other countrys. Everyones up in arms aganst the United States claiming we want oil, but ya know what, maybe we were sick of a terroist regime gettin super rich off of scum bag countrys that were willing to cheat the UN and the world by cutting behind the back deals and then watching the Iraqi Regime using those illegal funds to supress their people, fund terroist Jihads aganst good countrys trying to do positive things for the world.

So basically the United States stopped the free hand outs for a handful of countrys. We eliminated the centralized center of one of the worlds biggest terroist networks in Afganhistan and helped revitalize it a little bit (Its still a shit hole, but its Afghanistan, who knows if it can ever be revitalized), We eliminated a evil regime in Iraq (Yeah maybe we had a little something to do with setting it up, but at least we were man enough to come fix our mistake), We are helping revitalize a piss poor country and trying to redevelop its infrastructure and to top it all off, training a modern police force / army for them, AND Helping provide security so they can try to have their elections without some suicidal wacko with a bomb take em out. And you gladly quote the, UNITED STATES WANTED TEH OIL!!! Unfortunetly you are wrong. If we wanted oil we would have jumped on board with France and channeled money via unsupervised back door UN programs for it, no instead we sacrfice billions of dollars and thousands of lives to help rebuild a country, and your worried about us catching a little profit, ha.

Citizen lets put all the crap aside, tell me where Osama is right now and after I haul him in, ill cut you in on some of the reward.

PREY

Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:19 AM

Cartoon you make some very good points and your right about trying to teach the blind color it can be very frustrating, I notice that they cant really argue the origional base point either, they have to twist and manipulate and work to entirley different subjects, as if quoting something they found on a quick google search is going to side track the way we feel ;)

CITIZEN

Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:14 AM

Cartoon:

Pretty much all your post is unmitigated crap.

I never once supported the rioters or Al Qaeda, if you’d actually read my posts rather than attempting to satisfy your own rhetoric you may have realised that. You want that to be my position so that you can demonise me and ignore anything else I had to say. My point has from the very beginning been about one thing and one thing only, Islam isn't an evil religion. If have tried quite hard to keep other strands out of my own posts, despite you and others bringing them up.

I said not once (and I would challenge you to quote me) that these riots are justified, or that these people should not be punished, I merely said that Islam wasn't evil, and attempted to show this by the supposition that Christianity can also be twisted in too something violent. You obviously don't like this, being a Christian, but you know what tough, it’s happened and it is happening.

I'll say it again in case you missed it:
Islam isn't an evil religion, those who follow Islam (that is properly) don't strap on bombs and fly planes into buildings.

That has been the only point I've been trying to make, I'm beginning to wonder if your mind is capable of absorbing it, or with a true grasp of cognitive dissonance all you read was My names Citizen, I like too support terrorists written over and over again.

It’s very telling that you can’t disprove the points I raised in respect to Christianity, but prefer to attack me instead with Childish innuendo, I take that as a win, thanks.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
You should never give powers to a leader you like that you’d hate to have given to a leader you fear

CITIZEN

Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:01 AM

Prey:

Actually a good deal of what I posted was off the top of my head, though often I do search or look at sites/books that I've already read in order to make sure my facts are straight, I understand if that’s a concept that is Alien to you. I also understand if the concept of debating a point based on the facts, rather than opinion and prejudice is totally alien to you, Militant Christian Fundamentalists often find facts get in the way of the pure pursuit of rhetoric.

Guess what I wasn't attacking the US, though that's the picture you want to paint of me, since it's then easy to just point to the good America has done and say see...

But unfortunately no matter how you paint the Iraq war it is Illegal, plenty of other states have done similar things in recent history and been vilified for it. Hell Mark Thatcher was arrested for trying to help enact "regime change" in Equatorial Guinea.

As for not seeing any other countries doing this stuff it just shows your ignorance, there are plenty of other countries involved.

Also the French weren't involved in the oil for food scandals that was some EU politicians, not nations, again your ignorance, not mine. Also US companies made billions from illegal Iraqi oil, something the American government, and indeed media, turned a blind eye too.

Since in America it was in vogue for a while to vilify the French cause they weren't doing what America wanted, that reaction is hardly surprising. Just so's ya know, your nation owes its existence to the French and that fine lady out in New York harbour, yeah she's French too. Ohh I bet that just eats you up inside.

You want an argument use the legal oil deals signed between Germany, France and Russia with Saddam prior to the Iraq war which I'm sure you knew nothing about.

Also Iraq never had any terrorist’s connections, there’s more terrorists in Iraq now than there ever were, in fact Osama Bin Landen hated Saddam because he was secular, not Islamic. Again a fact your ignorant little mind is probably unable to grasp.

As for my 'internet logic' not working I'd say, given the fact that you've added nothing to this discussion bar propaganda I see every day anyway and entirely baseless personal attacks I'd say it's working quite well. Also the supposition that I am blind is most amusing, especially since I obviously know more about the various groups and situations involved, no googling required.

Anyway, if you wish to furnish us with your undoubted insights into the Iraq war, based on your vast lack of facts, I believe theres a thread here right now for that very purpose. I urge you to go read it, since I'd love to see you ripped apart there too.

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Citizen lets put all the crap aside, tell me where Osama is right now and after I haul him in, ill cut you in on some of the reward.

I don't know where he is, obviously since not once have I spoken in defence of the rioters or terrorism, this statement would be like me saying:
Prey supports Hitler wholeheartedly.
Which I haven't said. In fact it is your position that more effectively supports Osama, not mine.

Though I can picture you goose-stepping to work at the local Muslim camp, a shiny new Christian Fundamentalist Neo-Nazi youth knife strapped to your hip, not a great stretch given the fact that you support unchecked global militarism.

I think the country you would have been most happy in would have been communist Russia, they liked the whole global war deal.

Bye sweetpea, and remember, never ever ever think for yourself, your local Militant Reverend and your daddy have your best interests at heart, even when they're telling you to bomb that abortion clinic. Your doing gods work

.

Arse.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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PREY

Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:12 PM

Wow that was alot of writing, I must have touched a nerve somewhere. Islam is not a evil religion,only a portion of the people who follow it. Theres christans who are in the kkk, whats your point? My point is to kill people who want to kill me first, I think you like to talk, and your trying to look like a hero and live up to some weird standards that exist in your mind. If you have a problem with me stating my opinion then dont read it in the first place, making a compendium of information destroying my arguments and attacking me dosnt change anything. I never resorted to attacks aganst you, im sorry you feel the need to slander me in order to advocate your opinion over mine. I think ive said everything I wanted to say and then some, and I dont feel the need to carry on useless arguements with you in front of everyone who dosnt want to read them anyway so discharge your virtual testosterone and lets call it a day kid.

Ill see you all as soon as some other crazy Islamic news riles up the word and makes another big sensational post. Maybe me and cartoon can argue again and he can flex his e-penis for all of us.

CARTOON

Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:52 PM

I did say that certain folks might damage your calm, and suggest that it might be advantageous to ignore those who are inclined to do so (as I've been doing).

No one listens to me.

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. Maybe me and cartoon can argue again and he can flex his e-penis for all of us.

Certainly not in public, sir. That would be crude.

Likely, not even in private.

CITIZEN

Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:29 PM

Whatever Prey, you kicked off by calling me an Islamic terrorists and you did insinute that Islam is evil, and Cartoon outright said it, but we both know you could never be in the wrong.

Though I see why you think you didn't start with the personal stuff, I mean everything you do is right and justifiable, no matter what that maybe, anything anyone else does is wrong, unless it's what you want them to do.

You say things then take them back and say you never meant that in the first place, it's all veeery boring.

You sound just like the extremists, and as such I agree there's no point continuing because you are beyond any semblance of reason. Good luck with that Son.

Oh and good luck with the global christian war you said you wanted, that'll be sure to spread peace and harmony.

Cartoon:
Yes, religious zealots that preach destruction of other religions on the grounds that they're evil can upset a reasonable moderate who believes in secularism.

Your posts are the result of allowing minors access to a computer.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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DREAMTROVE

Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:41 PM

In case anyone wonder why I haven't been posting on this thread, which they probably haven't:

I'm just sitting back and watching the Jihad fly. Who knew it was so easy to spark a jihad? Grow your own! Confuse you friends! Amaze you enemies!

CITIZEN

Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:47 PM

Noted DT. But for a shiny penny can you point out which posters are screaming evil and calling for global war and Militarism?

Event's here certainly do seem to be mirroring the real world.

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CITIZEN

Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:12 PM

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, February 18, 2006 5:03 AM

Ah, my power was out and I missed the deleted post.

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:23 PM

Cartoon Jihad continues

One of Indonesia's biggest-selling newspapers has depicted John Howard and Alexander Downer as a pair of sex-crazed dingoes, dragging media outrage over the Papua visa row down to a new low.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/cartoon-sends-jakarta-row-to-ne
w-low/2006/03/29/1143441213033.html
The front page of the Islamic-leaning Rakyat Merdeka (People's Freedom) newspaper was dominated by the cartoon of the two having sex under a palm tree on an otherwise barren island signposted "Papua".

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:20 PM

That old fuddy duddy Benedict has opened his mouth again, only to inspire Rage from radical Muslims

Pope's remarks recall cartoon crisis
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=qw1158328981
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Pope Benedict XVI's comments linking Islam with violence have angered the Muslim world in a clash reminiscent of protests over cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed printed in Denmark a year ago.

DREAMTROVE

Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:17 AM

Muslims are insane, and the pope is an idiot.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, September 17, 2006 2:45 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Muslims are insane, and the pope is an idiot.

The Pope quotes somebody else who says the Muslims are violent. In protest, the Muslims get violent. Nobody sees the lovely irony here? Don't blame the Pope for telling the truth, whether it's in his own words or from some ruler 600 yrs ago.

That ain't hatin', that's just factin' - Chris Dimino.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

DREAMTROVE

Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:37 PM

AUraptor,

yes you're right. The irony of islamic response has been lost on me because of too many iterations. "You people are violent" :How dare you, we will kill you all and dance on youre graves!

So yes, you're right.

The quoting thing is a cheap cover. When I quoted TR at you, it wasn't because I disagreed with his statement. I think you're probably right that TR would have said making a film about killing a sitting president was a bad idea.

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, September 5, 2007 2:16 PM

Part-II
http://www.eux.tv/article.aspx?articleId=13901
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/challenges.php?id=1302346
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=121282

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, September 5, 2007 2:25 PM

Anybody that gets riled over a 'toon has no life and no real belief.

Eff 'em all Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Wednesday, September 5, 2007 7:02 PM

Reminds me of those stories you read all the time about how a wife and children (or occasionally husband and children) get whacked by a spouse during the divorce process or afterwards. Ya don't love me?? I'll KILL ya!. Psycho.

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Always look upstream.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, September 5, 2007 9:22 PM

Seems like they're the ones fanning the flames of discontent all over again.

'em.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:32 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324406,00.html
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=39616§ionid=351020101

AURAPTOR

Friday, January 25, 2008 4:47 AM

The guy looks like a OompaLumpa.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, February 15, 2008 3:10 PM

17 arrested after youths riot in Denmark

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-02-14-denmark-unrest_N.htm

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:15 PM

Raising the alarm

David Frum, National Post Published: Saturday, February 28, 2009

Quote:

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=d1eea87c-
ac18-4d29-9d08-1d905624ef6c

In a small room in Washington's National Press Club, a tall man with bright blond hair stands flanked by grim-faced security guards. He is here to screen a short documentary movie -- a movie that has caused him to be charged with three counts of hate speech in his native Netherlands and to be forbidden entry into the United Kingdom only two weeks ago.

Here in the United States, the reception is a little different. On Thursday, Geert Wilders showed his movie to members of the U. S. Congress. He has been interviewed on CNN and Fox, and on popular radio programs. He opened his remarks at the Press Club by ironically thanking U. S. immigration authorities for allowing him to visit the country.

Wilders is a member of the Dutch parliament and leader of the small Party for Freedom. Small until now anyway: The hate-charge against Wilders has elevated the Party for Freedom to third place in Dutch polls.

Wilders' movie, Fitna (from the Arabic word for violent strife) presents graphic images of the violence done by Islamic terrorists, intercut with quotations from the more bloodthirsty passages of the Koran. The movie never had theatrical release, but can be seen on the Internet at for example, fitnamovie.net.

Even before the film's release, Wilders had become famous as a ferocious critic of Islam and of the Netherland's large and growing Muslim minority: almost one million of the country's 16 million population. He has compared the Koran to Mein Kampf and urged a halt to all migration from Muslim countries.

Left-wing Dutch groups have for years urged the prosecution of Wilders under the Netherlands' hate-speech laws. Dutch prosecutors ignored them. But at last, in January, the prosecutors got their way: a panel of Dutch judges ordered prosecutors to act. Charges were filed, and a case begun.

The prosecution was a bizarre one. At the same time as one branch of the Dutch government was working to send Wilders to prison, the security services were providing him with round-the-clock protection. The Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn and the Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh had both paid with their lives for their criticism of Islam, and the Dutch government was desperate to avoid a third murder.

If there is any irony in the alleged hater being the person in lethal danger, and the supposed victims of hatred being the ones ready to murder, it goes unremarked by the Dutch legal system.

If the prosecution made Wilders famous, his ejection from the United Kingdom elevated him to full celebrity. Two days before Wilders' press conference, I happened to be in Providence, R. I., and boarded a Southwest Airlines flight back to D. C. at the same time as Wilders himself. He was travelling with an entourage as impressive as a movie star's. I was chatting with a couple of them as we entered the otherwise almost empty plane -- and was suddenly halted by a Transportation Security Administration employee, who scrutinized me as fiercely as an enforcer at a Hollywood nightclub. "It's OK -- he's with us," said one of the Wilders group, and I was whisked inside..
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http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=d1eea87c-
ac18-4d29-9d08-1d905624ef6c

CITIZEN

Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:37 PM

Will you quit sending me notifications of you're necro-posting JaynezTown, it was boring about twenty tries ago, and now it's just plain trolling.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:08 PM

Why should I quit posting in my own thread

and why are you constantly defending these Islamic scumbags 'Citizen'? WTF is your problem are you muslim or something?
Am I doing anything violent to your personally?

I also have many liberal values but I am extremely embarrassed by the radical element that has taken over the left. How did the left get taken by so many of these self-absorbed, even whiny anti-Americans?
Are you a muslim 'Citizen' are you just one of these stupid liberals who is constantly self-absorbed and anti-American?

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
M Islam is different from Christianity only in some minor details; they're essentially offshoots from the same trunk.

Islam is very, very different to Christianity, Jain Dharma, North American indigenous Native Indian folk religion and Buddhism and Judaism, Taoism and all the rest.
If the myth of religion is true well that's your belief.

But if its just a story I would classify Jesus as a hippie, a guy who could make magic tricks and got killed for it like a poor kid at Kent State University during Vietnam
he did once in a while get angry but he was mostly chilled and some people wrote down that he made miracles, if that is what a Christian will wish to believe

Muhammed on the other hand was a violent, maniac, who spread his religious cult by the sword. Read about his lootings and rapes in the Koran, all that violence and anti-Jewish racism...Muhammed admits it himself.
This is one big problem with many liberals, they will claim to be atheists and bash Hindus and Christians and Jews but when it comes to the most violent BS religion of them all, the liberals suddenly go all chicken shit.

Too chicken shit to face down a little jihad? Or are you living in some kind of big multi cultural excuse, like living the middle of Londonstan?

PARTICIPANT

Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:15 PM

Media bias is showing
Published in the Reporter
Posted: 02/28/2009 01:03:53 AM PST
http://www.thereporter.com/opinion/ci_11807307
Muzzammil Hassan and his wife, Aasiya, a Muslim couple, started a TV network near Buffalo, N.Y., calling it "Bridges" and intending it to improve the image of Muslims in America. Shortly after Aasiya filed for divorce, Muzzammil beheaded her. This story wasn't mentioned on ABC, CBS or NBC, and it barely received any coverage in the newspapers.

If a Christian televangelist or someone like Pat Robertson had committed such a crime, that's all the media would be talking about for at least a week.

The media can claim whatever it likes, but I really wish that it would stop claiming that it is not biased.

CITIZEN

Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JaynezTown:

Why should I quit posting in my own thread

I'll take that as a no then. As far as I'm concerned you can post on any thread you like, but I'm getting fed up of you constantly sending me the notification, even when you're neither addressing me, nor replying to me. It's trolling, so if you want to prove yourself a troll, carry on doing it I guess.

I ask you to cut out sending me notifications, and out come the claws and personal attacks. I'm surprised you are so anti-extremist, are you upset they're breaking into your gig or something?

Quote:
This is one big problem with many liberals, they will claim to be atheists and bash Hindus and Christians and Jews but when it comes to the most violent BS religion of them all, the liberals suddenly go all chicken shit.

This is the problem with fascists, they will claim to have facts, but when challenged all they can bring up are lies about people they disagree with.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, January 2, 2010 1:34 PM

Another year, another round of Islamic terrorism
http://europenews.dk/en/node/28799
By Henrik R Clausen 2 January 2010

The New Year opens in style, to the tune of more Islamic terrorist attacks. The most prominent being a Muslim of Somali origin breaking into the house of Kurt Westergaard, known for his bomb-in-turban drawing. The Muslim wanted to kill Kurt Westergaard for his drawing, as the drawing indicates there may be some form of link between Islam, Muhammad and terrorism. Killing the artist may not be the most elegant way to disprove that, but at least it gets Islam in the news. Again.

RUE

Saturday, January 2, 2010 8:35 PM

OH ...

RUE

Saturday, January 2, 2010 8:35 PM

... my ...

RUE

Saturday, January 2, 2010 8:35 PM

... god ...

RUE

Saturday, January 2, 2010 8:36 PM

look

RUE

Saturday, January 2, 2010 8:36 PM

at

RUE

Saturday, January 2, 2010 8:36 PM

this

RUE

Saturday, January 2, 2010 8:36 PM

mess !

RUE

Saturday, January 2, 2010 8:38 PM

"If a Christian televangelist or someone like Pat Robertson had committed such a crime, that's all the media would be talking about for at least a week."

Probably b/c Pat would have a MUCH higher name recognition, therefore, it would draw more viewers to watch the commercials, therefore it would be covered much more.

It's bia$ed, just not the way you think it is.

I wonder if this one will make it through many times - or not at all ...

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Silence is consent.

PIRATENEWS

Saturday, January 2, 2010 8:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JaynezTown:

Another year, another round of Islamic terrorism

Another year, another round of kosher terrorism.
http://legitgov.org/northwest_bomb_plot_oddities.html

I just watched Starship Troopers 3, with a healthy dose of false-flag terrorism perped by Big Brother, with hanging of patsy patriots to prove it.

But that probably went over the heads of the sheeple.

Quote:
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks.”
—Usama bin Laden, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/obl_int.htm

GEEZER

Sunday, January 3, 2010 4:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
OH my god look at this mess.

As compared, perhaps, with the Irish Ahiests, who reacted to a move to ban blasphamy with this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8437460.stm

Note that no one was blown up or died with this response.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

RUE

Sunday, January 3, 2010 5:09 AM

I guess it only applies if I was blaspheming their god, which I was not.

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Silence is consent.

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, January 8, 2010 12:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:

A lot of what is said about Muslims is propaganda.

yeah those extremists are just a bunch of shiny, happy, party people

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:23 AM

Citizenship and the Prophet principle
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/67e4eff6-ef0d-11e2-bb27-00144feabdc0.html#ax
zz2aaMH99nq

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:02 PM

As for Islam, this has been going on a while. Carl Gustav Jung (1875 – 1961) was the Swiss founder of analytical psychology, he compared Mohammedism to Hitlerism.
'We do not know whether Hitler is going to found a new Islam. He is already on the way; he is like Muhammad. The emotion in Germany is Islamic; warlike and Islamic. They are all drunk with a wild god. '
Haran Gawaitha ancient Mandaean texts, 'I will tell you, (O ye) priests who live in the Arab age, (of that which occurred) before the Son-of-Slaughter, the Arab, went out and prophesied as a prophet in the world so that they performed circumcision like Jews and changed sayings - for he is the most degraded of false prophets. Mars accompanieth him because he is the Seal of prophets of the Lie, (although) the Messiah will appear after him at the end of the age! I will inform you, Nasoraeans, that before the Son-of-Slaughter, the Arab, emerged and was called prophet in the world and Mars descended with him, he drew the sword and converted people to himself by the sword'
John Adams US founding father and John Quicy Adams President: ' he [Muhammad] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind…The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God'
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, Statesman, leader, a Turkish army officer, revolutionary writer, and founder of modern Turkey before its current rape ' For nearly five hundred years, these rules and theories of an Arab Shaikh and the interpretations of generations of lazy and good-for-nothing priests have decided the civil and criminal law of Turkey. They have decided the form of the Constitution, the details of the lives of each Turk, his food, his hours of rising and sleeping the shape of his clothes, the routine of the midwife who produced his children, what he learned in his schools, his customs, his thoughts-even his most intimate habits. Islam – this theology of an immoral Arab – is a dead thing. Possibly it might have suited tribes in the desert. It is no good for modern, progressive state. God’s revelation! There is no God! These are only the chains by which the priests and bad rulers bound the people down. A ruler who needs religion is a weakling. No weaklings should rule'
Saraswati an Indian Sage who is considered to be the most important Hindu religious leader of his time, describes the muslim religion: ' Having thus given a cursory view of the Quran, I lay it before the sensible persons with the purpose that they should know what kind of book the Quran is. If they ask me, I have no hesitation to say that it can not be the work either of God or of a learned man, nor can it be a book of knowledge. Here its very vital defect has been exposed with the object that the people may not waste their life falling into its imposition... The Quran is the result of ignorance, the source of animalization of human being, a fruitful cause of destroying peace, an incentive to war, a propagator of hostility among men and a promoter of suffering in society. As to defect of repetition, the Quran is its store'
Frank Miller Comic film director, book artist, screen writer, story board artist ' We're constantly told all cultures are equal, and every belief system is as good as the next. And generally that America was to be known for its flaws rather than its virtues. When you think about what Americans accomplished, building these amazing cities, and all the good its done in the world, it's kind of disheartening to hear so much hatred of America, not just from abroad, but internally... For some reason, nobody seems to be talking about who we're up against, and the sixth century barbarism that they actually represent. These people saw people's heads off. They enslave women, they genitally mutilate their daughters, they do not behave by any cultural norms that are sensible to us. I'm speaking into a microphone that never c

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:06 PM

Ahmad Akkari, Danish Muslim Leader In Cartoon Rage Regrets Role, Apologizes To Cartoonist Kurt Westergaard

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/10/ahmad-akkari-danish-cartoon-_
n_3736359.html

A Danish Muslim leader who seven years ago traveled the Muslim world fueling the uproar over newspaper caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad is back in the headlines in Denmark after doing an about-face on the issue.

Once a leading critic of the Danish cartoons, which sparked fiery protests in Muslim countries, Lebanese-born Ahmad Akkari now says the Jyllands-Posten newspaper had the right to print them.

His unexpected change of heart has received praise from pundits and politicians in recent weeks, though some question his sincerity. It has also disappointed some in the country's Muslim minority who were deeply offended by the cartoons.

Akkari, now 35, was the spokesman for a group of imams who led the protests against the drawings in Denmark. They traveled to Lebanon, Egypt and Syria to elicit support, saying the Danish government wouldn't listen to their concerns.

Their journeys helped turn the dispute into an international crisis. Dozens were killed in weeks of protests that included violent attacks against Danish missions in Syria, Iran, Afghanistan and Lebanon. Tiny Denmark found itself on a collision course with the Muslim world – something Akkari now regrets.

"I want to be clear today about the trip: It was totally wrong," Akkari told The Associated Press this week. "At that time, I was so fascinated with this logical force in the Islamic mindset that I could not see the greater picture. I was convinced it was a fight for my faith, Islam."

He said he's still a practicing Muslim but started doubting his fundamentalist beliefs after a 2007 trip to Lebanon, where he met Islamist leaders.

"I was shocked. I realized what an oppressive mentality they have," Akkari said.

A year later, he moved to Greenland, the desolate Danish Arctic island, where he worked in a school for two years.

"I had plenty of time to read and write. And think," said Akkari, who has shaved off the patchy beard he used to wear.

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, November 7, 2015 6:00 AM

Listen to these alternative news vids from Aus, England, America.....they think Germany and the EU is doomed

not sure how true the video is

THGRRI

Saturday, November 7, 2015 6:06 AM

THGRRI

Saturday, November 7, 2015 6:12 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:23 PM

and some mohammed images for your consideration
http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/islamic_mo_full/
I recommmend you read 'Email Responses from Readers' in zombietime

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, November 19, 2015 5:32 PM

Kerry

https://www.facebook.com/FoxBusiness/videos/10153707641470238/

Hirsi Ali on Channel 4 (the wacko British aljasera style channel who broadcast the leader of Iran as a British Christmas message)

Atheist Roo

REAVERFAN

Thursday, November 19, 2015 6:52 PM

Interesting post. I see a lot of people no longer post here. Too bad. This is still a cool site, if not heavily used.

REAVERFAN

Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Wow - she's brilliant - I love her & I fear for her. I don't think any muslim man would listen to her, especially a radical one. "Death cult" says it well. I'm encouraged that she's encouraged.

Scroll up and watch the video if you haven't - it's not a nutty extremist video.

That's the problem. Too many literalist fundamentalist whackos. Islam needs too change, but the crazies think change is blasphemy.

THGRRI

Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:24 PM

Quote:

..JAYNEZTOWN, Sept. 8th 2004

Hot headed reactions like these are kind of understandable. I saw much worse ideas than this Flynn guy on the Yahoo-news and MSN-news board

It's true that these Islamic terrorists are scum, and if they take human life, bomb hospitals or kill children they deserve to die.

However not all Arabs, Muslims or Islamics are like these radical nuts. Many are just ordinary folk and some don't give a damn about religion. Terrorism will always exist in some form, it is hard to defeat but it can be largely prevented.

Terrorism flourishes where there is ethnic hatred, radical political leaders, religious nuts and oppression..these are the places where it grows and gets strong.

The probelm is that some try to strike back using overkill methods only to see terror groups spring back in other places and sometimes stronger.

Take the example of Clinton, he was a bullcrap president and spent much time with Monica and cigars. However he done ok for the USA and was smart when it came to global politics and events. In Kosovo, we had different ethnic groups and races killing ecah other. Clinton was forced to act and planes bombed. Afterwards there were big problems, yet Clinton set up the smart framework so that the area would be secure, safe and free from dictators or terrorists again. Clinton also done good in parts of Asia, Northern Ireland and the Middle East.

Now take our idiot Bush, all fight but no brains instead of finding the evil Binladen and his Taliban friends Bush is off causing trouble in the Iraq. Meanwhile N-Korea is building long range Nukes that reach the west coast and Iran has a real WMD program. Terrorism flourishes where there is ethnic hatred, radical political leaders, religious nuts and oppression..these are the places where it grows and gets strong and this might be why it's now growing in Iraq, a place where Al-Quaida could not have existed some months ago as Saddam used to hatethem and other religious radicals. It seems Bush has plenty of bravado and fight in him, but no brains and tactics and no idea about peace, and security or winning the war.

There is no doubt these islamic extremists are evil and they should be killed for what they have done. However not respond by bombing a city
let's catch them , put them on trial and shoot them.

The worst thing Russia could do is play this like Bush has done, by pinning it on some other random city ( Baghdad-Iraq ) . When I speak of Clinton or Bush I don't just mean the presidents but the advisors and administartion which surrounds. Is Bush smart enough to win peace and security or are the terrorists coming back and more people going to die ?

THGRRI

Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Wow - she's brilliant - I love her & I fear for her. I don't think any muslim man would listen to her, especially a radical one. "Death cult" says it well. I'm encouraged that she's encouraged.

Scroll up and watch the video if you haven't - it's not a nutty extremist video.

I don't think she is G. I like her but can you imagine Catholics throwing away all the passages in the bible that don't fit into todays modern society, I can't. They would never do it. Just look at the fact that at the end of life if you were bad, you are to burn in hell for all eternity. ( How cruel and unforgiving is that? ) The way that was changed was in how that concept is taught. You'll never get them to remove the passages.

That is what has to change in the Muslim world. How their faith is taught. How the most extreme verses in the Koran, are taught as being extreme. The reason many Muslims believe what they believe today is because Islam is still being taught as it was in the 7th century. Like the Bible the Koran is schizophrenic. On one hand they preach tolerance and with the other they teach intolerance.

Where I think she gave us a hint at what helps temper the Muslims is exposure to modern societies. In the middle east they are not directly exposed to modernity. "Catholicism, understood on its own terms, is radically opposed to American culture, and to the essence of modernity." Yet look how well it works today because of the changes in the way Catholicism is taught in modern times. And if you exclude the poor Mexican immigrants coming in from our southern border, this country was becoming less religious. In time they too will become less religious.

It's when some like JAYNZTOWN lash out that things go awry. Perhaps a kind of new testament for the Koran is in order, but lashing out is certainly not the answer.

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:

Scroll up and watch the video if you haven't - it's not a nutty extremist video.
That's the problem. Too many literalist fundamentalist whackos. Islam needs too change, but the crazies think change is blasphemy.

Geller with Dobbs

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, January 6, 2016 1:08 AM

Crowd of ‘Arab origin’ blamed for mass sexual assaults?

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, January 11, 2016 6:28 PM

Some online reaction to this whole Rape refugees, riots, theft, molesting women in Germany, Sweden, France, Austria and other places....might be a difficult summer. Some feel this is only a preview of events to come

This New Militant Atheist poltical movement is getting stronger each day

Quote:

Guardian: Poor Migrants Rape Western Women Because They Have Smartphone
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1825876_Guardian__Poor_Migrants_Rape_
Western_Women_Because_They_Have_Smartphones.html
Liberals shouldn’t be afraid to ask hard questions. Young German women thankfully enjoy historically unprecedented economic and sexual freedom, with their expensive smartphones and their right to celebrate New Year’s Eve however they want. The same isn’t always true of young male migrants exchanging life under repressive regimes, where they may at least have enjoyed superiority over women

Mass Assaults over NYE Renew German Tensions Over Migrants
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1166645
The victim, who the TV channel identified only by her first name, Michelle, said police didn't take her sexual assault claim seriously for several days and at first, would only file a report about her cell phone being stolen.

German media apologizes for covering up New Years attacks
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?s=bdb361a498dd1fdebb7c88
193ae230ea&t=276637
Editors of the network’s nightly news show “Heute” (translated to “Today” in English) confessed to not covering the attacks despite knowing the magnitude and severity of the events. Leaked police documents also confirm authorities held back on reporting information to the public until the media broke the story Monday — four days after the attacks.

Muslim Rape Gangs Attack Women, and Feminists Won’t Say a Word About It
http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?71011-M
uslim-Rape-Gangs-Attack-Women-and-Feminists-Won%92t-Say-a-Word-About-It
American feminists, who have incited irrational hysteria over a non-existent “rape epidemic” on U.S. college campuses, will ignore this news. American feminists never said a word about the Rotherham Horror, in which English girls as young as 11 were pimped out by Muslim predators.
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Merkel should be proud. Times woman of the year for letting the freaks ravage her country...
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This sort of thing is ongoing in the UK too, not just this particular case

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Mass sexual assault in Cologne over 30 women culturally enriched
http://leekyforums.com/thread/4446760/politics/mass-sexual-assault-in-
cologne-over-30-women.html
"Germany pisses me off so fucking much. "

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THE ideologues of modern feminism have plumbed new depths of hypocrisy in the past week.

If there was ever any doubt that the feminist movement has been hijacked by unprincipled cowards more concerned with their own moral vanity than equality between the sexes, there shouldn’t be now.

One would’ve thought that the loudest segments of the sisterhood, who write obsessively about imagined rape culture and victim blaming, would be eager to examine the very real and sickening sexual brutality visited upon hundreds of women in Germany on New Year’s Eve by hordes of entitled men.

Feminists’ silence on issues such as forced marriages, female genital mutilation, honour killings and wholesale subjugation of women in Muslim countries is nothing new, but they are now silent on incidents occurring in the Western world.

Gang attacks on women in Germany and other parts of Europe by newly-arrived Muslim migrants, some of whom view women as nothing more than objects, have barely raised a ripple among feminist activists who can be relied upon to become enraged over the most trivial offence.

On New Year’s Eve in the German city of Cologne, up to a thousand men sexually assaulted and robbed dozens of

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, February 6, 2016 12:54 AM

Pamela Geller: Video of migrant assaulting a mother symbolizes Europe

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, March 6, 2016 4:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
This whole thing is incredibly disturbing.

Protesting against free speech? Free speech is what is allowing those protests with their despicable slogans in the first place!

How beautiful would this planet be without hypocrisy or fanatism.

Which perhaps moves us onto the topic of the REGRESSIVE LEFT ??

http://forums.castanet.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=64860
when the left starts behaving like the right when it comes to free thinking they've gone to far in isolating themselves from exploring other ways of looking at things.

Quote:

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=1065968
Both the Tea Party and what I like to call the "Radical Progressive" movement to define the Regressive Left from traditional progressivism, seemed to start under similar origins namely a mass movement of people trying to mobilize against something they perceived as unjust. For the Tea Party it was the bailouts and the perceived overreach of federal government, for Radical Progressivism it was attempts to address serious social ills from inequality to police brutality against minorities.

Both originally garnered a lot of media attention and drew considerable support in the early goings. But as of now, both movements considered signs of hyperpartisanship and extreme political polarization that is causing considerable stress in public society. The Tea Party has become infamous for perpetuating obstruction and extreme political rhetoric through the Freedom Caucus in Congress and individuals like Cruz and Trump. While the Radical Progressive movement is becoming sharply criticized due to various individual actions from the Missouri protesters trying to intimidate journalists, OWS/BLM blocking roads and acting like a general public nuisance, an growing trend of censorship and segregation amongst college academia, etc.

The difference between the two is that the Regressive Left so far has been limited to protests and Tumblrites while the Tea Party arguably has done more harm via its actions in Congress and hijacking of the GOP. However, with many of the old guard progressives and Blue Dog Democrats that have been the core of the Democratic Party starting to fade out and radical progressives gaining more prominence in the media, is there a danger that the Regressive Left is about to have its own Tea Party bubble?

http://armorgames.com/community/thread/12563821/the-regressive-left
*Note: the title is kinda misleading, but I view "progressives" ironically regressive. Also, I don't usually use the Left-Right spectrum bs. I use the Authoritarian-Libertarian chart most of the time.

What do guys thing of so-called "progressives" (AKA SJWs)? For me, I view them as a threat. I saw people losing their jobs and getting socially castrated due to just disagreeing with them. Also, the mainstream media champions them as heroes/heroines. Why treat them as such?! They are bullies for crying out loud! Anyway, what do you think about them?

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One thing I would like to note is being a "social justice warrior" isn't the same as being a progressive. Using wiki.

"Progressivism is a broad philosophy based on the Idea of Progress, which asserts that advancement in science, technology, economic development, and social organization are vital to improve the human condition."

""Social Justice Warrior", commonly abbreviated as "SJW", is a pejorative term for a person expressing or promoting socially progressive views, particularly relating to social liberalism, political correctness or feminism. The accusation of being an SJW implies that a person is engaging in putatively disingenuous social justice arguments or activism to raise their personal reputation."

http://www.politicsforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=46895

HornandoCortez wrote:
http://poqari.ml/2015/12/31/norway-oslo-police-we-have-lost-the-city/

It could spread across

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:20 AM

Alex Jones seems to have got behind Trump?

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, June 4, 2016 1:21 PM

Kid Actor Goes to Jail for Insulting Islam?

Singapore Police Raid Political Dissident's House

Syrian Migrants Caught Planning Massive Terror Attack in Germany (breitbart.com)

https://www.voat.co/v/news/comments/1082747

AMOS YEE HAS 8 CHARGES! Mostly from wounding islam. However…..
May 25, 2016
https://amosyee.wordpress.com/2016/05/25/amos-yee-has-8-charges-mostly
-from-wounding-islam-however/
Charges

Wounding Religion:

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, January 6, 2017 5:38 AM

Two years after tragedy, "Charlie Hebdo" remains reassuringly rabid

www.euronews.com

what else?

well, war everywhere and in-stability but I guess the death of binLaden can be marked as a high point of an Obama Presidency

....
previous update on Paris attack at music concert
...
....

Jesse Hughes 'wasn't kept away from the Bataclan' for Paris attack anniversary event, manager insists

However, the band's manager, Marc Pollack, denounced the co-manager of the venue, Jules Frutos, as a "coward" and claimed they were nowhere near the Bataclan at the time the alleged incident occured.

89 people were killed at the Bataclan Theatre on 13 November after gunmen opened fire during a concert by the US band.

Hughes provoked controversy by suggesting security guards at the venue may have been complicit in the attack as they did not turn up for work on the night of the attack.

He also claimed he had seen “Muslims celebrating in the street during the attack” in an interview with Taki's Magazine.

Mr Frutos is alleged to have said that “they came” but he “threw them out” because “there are things you can’t forgive”.

He said: "He makes these incredibly false declarations every two months.

"It is madness, accusing our security of being complicit with the terrorists. Enough. Zero. This has to stop,” Mr Frutos added.

But Mr Pollack has denied the incident ever took place as Eagles of Death Metal were nowhere near the venue on Saturday.

He told Billboard that Hughes had “never even tried entering the club for Sting’s show”.

He added: “This day is not about Jesse Hughes or Eagles of Death Metal.

Sting performed the first gig at the 150-year-old venue since the attacks, paying tribute to those who died and calling for a minute’s silence in their honour
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/paris-attacks-anniversary-bat
aclan-jesse-hughes-eagles-of-death-metal-a7414741.html

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trying to go back on old vids now

FUCK YOUTUBE

the blasphemy shitheads at youtube keep deleting my vids

hopefully this France24 vid stays up .....2 years on Hebdo
I will leave it in French language out of respect for her peoples

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/other/charlie-hebdo-marks-2nd-anniversa
ry-of-attacks/vi-BBxTyat

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x56z4sf

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, August 31, 2018 8:33 PM

Why Muslims are livid over a Muhammad cartoon contest in the Netherlands
https://globalnews.ca/news/4418378/muhammad-cartoon-contest/

Dutch Lawmaker Cancels "Blasphemous" Caricatures Contest
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nMuj2sjJk5Y/

?
https://www.fahrenheit211.net/2018/03/22/pat-condell-asks-a-very-impor
tant-question-why-are-we-giving-human-rights-to-inhuman-rape-addicted-savages/

The Pakistani Veto
https://gatesofvienna.net/2018/08/the-pakistani-veto/

Bacon?
https://twitter.com/FlaviaSPFx/status/1035324136103530497
Are you still here complaining? #BanIslam

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=2JCqFN_JRh8
!
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=2JCqFN_JRh8

Dutch populist Wilders cancels Prophet Mohammad cartoon contest
http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/man-in-court-over-plot-to-kil
l-dutch-populist-wilders/article/530733
The Dutch politician's announcement came after he said he had received several death threats. A man was arrested by police two days earlier on suspicion of wanting to assassinate Wilders.

Amsterdam Jewish Woman and Children Told ‘You Should All Be Shot’ and Called ‘Cancer Jews’: A Jewish woman and children in Amsterdam were told they should "all be shot," and subjected to other bits of anti-semitic ugliness
https://twitter.com/PamelaGeller/status/1035491175262642177

Muslims seethe over (now cancelled) Mohamed drawing contest promoted by Geert Wilders…….
http://tundratabloids.com/2018/08/muslims-seethe-over-now-cancelled-mo
hamed-drawing-contest-promoted-by-geert-wilders/

?
http://archive.is/v1xZC
His youngest bride was 6 years old.

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, July 20, 2020 12:28 AM

Ancient Buddha statue discovered in SHITHOLE islamo country Pak, destroyed by construction workers for being 'unIslamic'

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/constructions-workers-pakistan-d
estroy-ancient-unislamic-buddha-statue-found-while-digging-1702000-2020-07-18

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, September 12, 2020 4:35 PM

Why does the Regressive Left support these jihadis why do Republican Conservative Homosexuals like Lindsey Graham support these islamics and their sharia laws, is there maybe some blackmail tape of Graham taking it up the ass from some old islam dude in Dubai, Saudi or UAE, why does he support the Anti-American jihads?

These inbred Low IQ jihads are back

Terroristic Al-Qaeda wants Sharia Law in France, makes bomb threats, terror threats against artists and writers

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8723735/Al-Qaeda-threatens-Ch
arlie-Hebdo-magazine-repeat-2015-attack.html

Al-Qaeda threatens Charlie Hebdo for republishing Mohammed cartoon
https://news.yahoo.com/al-qaeda-threatens-charlie-hebdo-204153548.html

Al-Qaeda threatens new Charlie Hebdo massacre over republished Mohammed cartoons
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3101279/al-qaeda-threat
ens-new-charlie-hebdo-massacre-over-republished

Threat to Charlie Hebdo magazine with a repeat of 2015 attack
https://www.newsoneplace.com/30077491911/charlie-hebdo-al-qaeda

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, September 12, 2020 8:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Kid Actor Goes to Jail for Insulting Islam?

Singapore Police Raid Political Dissident's House

Yanno... I read that and thought about several other people in the supposedly free UK that were dragged out of their houses by police for their non-violent opinions online that were against the ultra-Liberal narrative the UK is suffering from today as well.

We do happen to live in the ONLY country in the world where such speech is protected and things like this do not happen.

Wouldn't it be terrifying if one day that changed?

Depending on which way the wind was blowing, half of us would be pulled out of our houses upon reading the RWED, and they'd probably go back and be nabbing people since this site started.

Everything being a pendulum, it probably wouldn't take long before things swung the other way and the other half of people were nabbed.

Americans truly do not appreciate how great this country is.

Even among the other so-called "free" countries in the West, we are the only country with Constitutional protections for freedom of speech.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, September 25, 2020 9:23 PM

At least two injured in knife attack near former Charlie Hebdo office in Paris
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/world/2020/09/25/least-two-injure
d-knife-attack-near-former-charlie-hebdo-office-paris/3528658001/

They want an islamist Sharia Law Caliphate in parts of France?

France opens anti-terror probe
https://news.yahoo.com/police-operation-ongoing-northeastern-district-
104305292.html

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, October 17, 2020 1:46 AM

More Shitlamic scum bringing their pedophile terrorist prophet and their sharia law culture into Frogistan

French police shoot dead man who beheaded victim near Paris
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/french-police-shoot-dead-man-who-b
eheaded-victim-near-paris-20201017-p565ya.html

Paris attack: an inbred islamist savage Gunman wears a bomb vest shouting out the terrorist war cry of Al lahu Ackbar, claiming the Satanic Luciferian Babylon Moongod al Lah is greater than the God of Christians, Pagans, Hindus or Jews and then BEHEADS a French teacher

Teacher decapitated in France after showing Mohammed cartoons
https://news.yahoo.com/teacher-decapitated-france-showing-mohammed-185
503732.html

Gunman wearing bomb vest near a childrens school ‘beheads a man in Paris’ before being shot by cops
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12942960/gunman-bomb-vest-beheads-man-pa
ris/

Man shouting Allahu Akbar beheads teacher in Paris
http://en.protothema.gr/man-shouting-allahu-akbar-beheads-teacher-in-p
aris/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8848509/amp/Gunman-shouting-A
llahu-Akbar-BEHEADS-man-northern-Paris-shot-police.html

Teacher beheaded in Paris after 'discussing' cartoons of Prophet Muhammad
...I wonder what kind of discussion ends in a koranimal terrorist attack?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/teacher-beheaded-in-paris-after-discu
ssing-cartoons-of-prophet-muhammad/7R43I43AT2FNF6FHS2DAFROES4/

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, October 17, 2020 4:11 AM

http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/teacher-beheaded-in-paris-
suburb-after-showing-cartoons-of-prophet-mohammed-to-class.579889/ Paris Terror Attack: 'Teacher' Decapitated Over Mohammed Cartoons https://ruqqus.com/post/42va/paris-terror-attack-teacher-decapitated-o
ver , A Paris teacher was beheaded today by parent near a school. For showing Muhammad Picture https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/o-t-lounge/a-paris-teacher-was-beh
eaded-today-by-parent-near-a-school-for-showing-muhammad-picture/92486831/ , https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/340214-schoolteacher
-beheaded-in-france/

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, January 21, 2021 10:57 PM

Biden signs orders to end the block of jihadi terrorists from troublesome nations, end the so called ‘Muslim ban’?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-pledges-to-end-trump-s-m
uslim-ban-on-his-first-day-in-office/ar-BB16YNm5

https://www.dw.com/en/biden-signs-executive-order-repealing-trumps-mus
lim-ban/a-56296866

Why Thomas Jefferson Declared war on Islam?
https://gvid.tv/v/cGQ8A

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, March 25, 2021 11:40 PM

Batley Grammar School teacher suspended after after moslim invaders go islamist apeshit, Low IQ disgutsing jihadist cartoon protest gets English teacher fired in Britbongistan

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-56524850

WAR IS COMING in England, it can perhaps be stopped now but soon it will be too late.

Muslims plant bombs - nothing silence from this islamic mob. The jihads shoot, stab, blow up shit and cause massacres in the States, Europe, N.America, Asia, Africa...more silence ...they hijack trucks and cars and roll over people in mass murder, plant more bombs, stone people to death
...more silence from this devot muslim group
but a FUNNY CARTOON? Or a reference to Charlie Hebdo or South Park news and Sharia threats.... now a TOOON !? the Community figurehead Imam Mohammed Amin Pandor suddenly the muslim-rent-a-mob comes out and the islamic
he spoke to the crowd - about a CARTOON
He said: "What happened here, we are disgusted."

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, March 30, 2021 10:55 PM

The nasty little islamic bitch lied to the mob of jihads and got her French teacher killed?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56325254
' French!? schoolgirl admits lying about murdered teacher'

Quote:
A French?!? schoolgirl has admitted to lying and spreading false claims about a teacher who was murdered last year.
Samuel Paty was beheaded in October after showing students cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.
The girl, whose complaints sparked an online campaign against Paty, has now admitted that she was not in the class.

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, April 3, 2021 4:16 PM

Jihadi Muslim says “human decency” dictates that freedom of speech must NEVER include caricatures of the Prophet Moo-ham-mad

https://barenakedislam.com/2021/04/03/muslim-says-human-decency-dictat
es-that-freedom-of-speech-must-never-include-caricatures-of-the-prophet-mohammed/

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, April 16, 2021 11:44 PM

Thousands of Low IQ Inbred terroristic Muslims clash with police in Pakistan, they hate France and they want to kill French?

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/04/pakistan-thousands-of-muslims-clash
-with-police-over-muhammad-cartoons-in-france

Swedish Pre-School Funneled Money to the Muslim Brotherhood
https://gatesofvienna.net/2021/04/swedish-pre-school-funneled-money-to
-the-muslim-brotherhood/

The Demonic pedophile terrorist Moongod al-Llah is the biggest deceiver. Western governments are eager to be deceived.
https://sheikyermami.com/2021/04/allah-is-the-biggest-deceiver-western
-governments-are-eager-to-be-deceived/

Pakistan banning the interwebs, Pak blocks social media access following anti-French protests.
Pakistan shuts down access to Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites after days of violent anti-French protests by radical Islamists
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9477983/Pakistan-blocks-socia
l-media-access-amid-anti-France-rallies.html

Pakistan briefly blocks social media amid anti-France rally
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Pakistan-blocks-social-media
-access-amid-16105473.php

Macron / France tells citizens to run / flee ...jihad death cult is coming

Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok and Other Social Media Sites Temporarily Blocked

The French embassy advises its citizens, companies to leave Pakistan amid serious security threats
https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/pakistan-riots-prophet-cartoons
-france-advises-citizens-companies-to-leave-pak-serious-security-threats-698036

French embassy advises citizens to leave Pakistan
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210415-french-embassy-advises-
citizens-to-leave-pakistan

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, September 7, 2021 8:06 AM

Taliban execute folk singer days after saying music is ‘forbidden,’ family says
https://nypost.com/2021/08/30/afghan-folk-singer-fawad-andarabi-killed
-by-taliban-for-playing-music/

Quote:
Originally posted by piratenews:
French pig farmer is NOT cartoon of Muhammed

Someone said 'Arrest' and you ran away? I thought once upon a time you were a soldier long long ago or did you destroy that part of yourself, smoke those braincells away. This is assuming nobody fucked around with your phone and compuet and stopped you posting here

Pirate New s ...it.... ever was, same as it ever was Same as it ever was and look where my hand was Time isn't holding up, time isn't after us Same as it ever was, same as it ever was Same as it ever ..

https://gab.com/Piratenews/posts/106884014248317514

Who is 'Pettibone'?

Daryush Valizadeh said aka RooshV has argued that they are planned or controlled or deep-seated feminists...
I think she's too crazy to be controlled
born in Commiefornia to Theodore and Sabrina Pettibone with many siblings. Her father was a candidate for Governor of Kansas

PirateNews blame him for all the conspiracy posts on fireflyfans

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, September 7, 2021 9:15 AM

Gross sand people with a diseased "god".

It's like the movie Footloose, but John Lithgow kills everybody at the end.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:23 AM

France marks first anniversary since teacher killed over Mohammed cartoon
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3152614/france-marks-fi
rst-anniversary-teacher-killed-over-mohammed

Even Muslims are complaining about having to listen to the over-amplified Islamic Call to prayer 5 times a day starting at dawn
https://barenakedislam.com/2021/10/25/indonesia-even-muslims-are-compl
aining-about-having-to-listen-to-the-over-amplified-islamic-call-to-prayer-5-times-a-day-starting-at-dawn/

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Gross sand people with a diseased "god".

They pray to a pedophile bandit Moongod of death, rape and terror.

That is not to say all muslims are terrorists but their so called religion is cancerous and shit and full of rape and terror

It is possibly one of the worst 'religions' I have ever read in the history of this Planet Earth. In fact I'm not even sure its a religion it should probably be classed as an invasive cult and a terrorist Sharia Law system that tries to disguise itself as 'religion'.

You guys should maybe learn about Quran or Koran just as Thomas Jefferson did when he studied his enemy, maybe at least learn some of it to understand the mindset that killed so many in the WTC, bombing and shooting in Africa, Europe, attacking embassy in S.America and Asia attacking people in Orlando Florida, in Boston, in San Bernardino, the terrorist jihadi mindset that currently has a hold of Afghanistan

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, October 27, 2021 3:35 PM

Jihad-Rep Omar Wants Government To Monitor the islamist-Aware aka ‘Islamophobic’ People

https://gellerreport.com/2021/10/jihad-rep-omar-wants-government-to-mo
nitor-islamophobic-people.html/

and Last Night In Sweden?
It seems Swedistan = SHITHOLE COUNTRY?
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/10/26/sweden-releases-isis-women
-suspected-of-committing-war-crimes/
Sweden Releases ISIS Women Suspected of Committing War Crimes

Germany
Boris Reitschuster is a popular German vlogger and journalist.
https://reitschuster.de/post/asylbewerber-an-der-grenze-zu-polen-einem
-polizisten-platzt-der-kragen-und-er-packt-aus/

Quote:
The series began with an lengthy email from a policeman, which generated a lot of comment. This article — the most recent one — posts a message from a police officer that refers to previous articles:

Police officer insider report: We “literally work for the trash”

“Discrepancy in the political guidelines for migration policy and Corona measures”

A week ago I published the shocking insider report by a federal police officer about what was happening at the German-Polish border. It triggered a lot of reactions. I was particularly impressed by the letter from a policeman I knew. He confirmed the experiences of his colleague — and complained that the officials “literally work for the trash” and are measured by two standards on the instructions of politicians. Here is the letter from the policeman who earlier described interior views from the police service for my side:

This very authentic letter from a federal police officer relentlessly takes a look at the fundamental problems in this country. However, it is also a confirmation of my article and the existence of “critical officials” within the police apparatus.

The statements of the federal police officer regarding the migrants sound very familiar to me and must therefore be taken seriously!

A few additional thoughts that crossed my mind while reading the text of my colleague: As a police officer who witnessed [the migration crisis of] 2015 and what happened back then, there are clearly visible parallels compared to today. At that time, the events of politics and the media were presented in the best possible light, while the current conditions at the German borders were completely disregarded. Nonetheless, both approaches have in common that the difficulties associated with the issue are completely ignored and, moreover, critics of this type of migration policy are defamed as “right-wing populists”.

In connection with the letter from the federal police officer, it is also important to me to point out a fundamental problem to which, in my opinion, far too little attention is paid.

Also at the risk of expressing myself politically incorrectly: People who enter or stay in German federal territory illegally and without a valid passport are liable to prosecution within the meaning of Section 95 of the Residence Act. As a result, a police officer must file a criminal complaint if these provisions are in place. This also applies when people ask for asylum. If those migrants are unable to show any valid identity documents or residence permits (which is usually the case), they are initially suspected of violating Section 95 of the Residence Act.

As mentioned in the letter from the federal police officer, this means that if a large number of asylum seekers have been apprehended, a large number of police officers are also necessary to deal with the cases. This includes, among other things, the search, the production of a criminal complaint including identification measures, and, if necessary, the transfer to asylum shelters.

For a complete processing of such a case (!), the officer, in my experience as a state police officer, has to plan at least one hour. So you can imagine how lengthy the processing of numerous asylum seekers can be on the one hand and how much time remains for the police work “on the street” on the other.

However, what bothers me most in this area to this day, is tha

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, November 1, 2021 8:02 PM

everywhere the filth of islamism and shitty mindset that is islam spread its usual problems follow

Germany: Afghan migrant vandalizes church because as a Muslim who prays to the terrorist pedophile bandit called mahomet, he ‘can’t accept the Christian faith’
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/10/germany-afghan-migrant-vandalizes-c
hurch-because-as-a-muslim-he-cant-accept-the-christian-faith

Spain: Muslim migrant rapes 15-year-old girl, Globalist ethnomasochist pro-pedophile authorities dismiss such cases by saying ‘It’s their custom’
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/10/spain-muslim-migrant-rapes-15-year-
old-girl-authorities-dismiss-such-cases-by-saying-its-their-custom

Political Islam and Democracy Crisis in North Africa
https://countercurrents.org/2021/10/political-islam-and-democracy-cris
is-in-north-africa/

Thailand marred by consistent Islamic militancy
https://hindupost.in/world/thailand-marred-by-consistent-islamic-milit
ancy/

Police and firefighters attacked at school under construction by Low IQ inbred islamics because it was to be named after the French school teacher beheaded by a Muslim student
https://barenakedislam.com/2021/10/30/france-police-and-firefighters-a
ttacked-at-school-under-construction-because-it-was-to-be-named-after-the-french-school-teacher-beheaded-by-a-muslim-student/

CAIR now copies the perverted ADL Zionists and says “If someone in a small town in Kansas or any other state makes an anti-Islam remark, we will hunt them down and try to get them fired from their job”
https://barenakedislam.com/2021/10/27/cair-says-if-someone-in-a-small-
town-in-kansas-or-any-other-state-makes-an-anti-islam-remark-we-will-hunt-them-down-and-try-to-get-them-fired-from-their-job/

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