Worst Sci-Fi Ever.

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QUICKSAND

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:00 AM

BLeargh.

It's my country's 228th birthday, and the board is as dead as frikkin' Sharon Stone's career. So I asked myself (and, by extension, YOU)... with all the talk of Sci-Fi...........

What is the WORST Sci-Fi you've had the displeasure of witnessing, in its entirety? Entirety meaning, you can't vote for Star Trek: Voyager if you've only seen 10 minutes of one episode (and how could you stomach any more?). Specific film, movie, or book examples, please.

Many examples come to *MY* mind (Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise, Star Trek Five, Star Wars Episodes I & II, and George W. Bush's environmental policy), but I'm sure there's more out there, and I'm sure any suggestions might jog loose even more from my tightly-compacted brain.

You know you've been thinking about this. Try to resist the urge to vote for specific episodes of Firefly, but... if you must, at least have a good arguement.

XOXO

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NUMMY

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:13 AM

Whilst I fully agree that Star Wars Eps 1 & 2 have sorely tried my patience, from the Brit side of the pond I can only say that you should never, ever try to watch a series called 'Crime Traveller', unless you are being tortured. At which point, I don't think you are getting much in a way of choice anyhow. Poor thing.

I also find the rather prolonged existence of 'Andromeda' a confusing intellectual and bruising emotional experience. Grrrr!

Greetings to all.

Nummy.

QUICKSAND

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:17 AM

Not familiar with that first one. Tell me more of this "Andromeda" of which you speak.

Oh, is that the syndicated thing with Hercules? Boggle THAT. In that case, tell us more about the show that = torture.

JELLO

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:23 AM

From some of the ones you just mentioned, I'd have to go with Star Wars Episode I. Attack of the Clones was better than that, but still extremely disappointing. And from what I'm hearing about Episode III, I might as well get wasted before I go into the theater to watch it. Episode I was really just a slap in the face to the fans of the original "Holy Trilogy". Sad part is that he had 20 years to work on it, and that was the best he could come up with. I loved the original trilogy, but I never really could stand George Lucas himself. That guy bothers the hell out of me when I see him in interviews and stuff. There's just something about him I don't like, and Episode I really didn't help me like him any better. Okay, the pod race the first time you watch it is shiny, but then a second time it seems to drag on and be the only thing the movie has going for it. Anyways, that's just my opinion. Don't mean to piss off any Lucas aficionados. But then again I wouldn't be me if I don't piss at least one person off.

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ECGORDON

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:25 AM

LEXX

NUMMY

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:34 AM

Aw, bless you for the interest, but really, noooo! Run away! A series in which two (normally perfectly able and respected) actors are asked to play detectives, travelling through time to solve crime in a stilted and ill fashioned fashion! Believe me, a fully financed reason for people rejecting the BBC's vision of futuristic TV series. In a nutshell. A v. small one.

Truly awful. Really. Like the dreadful, alledgedly mint custard I was served at primary school!

But thank you for listening!

Nummy

KURUKAMI

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:37 AM

I may well get flamed for this, but I thought Buckaroo Banzai was pretty damned bad. That one was below B-movie-level, despite its chorus line of big names.

"Sir, I would like to gingerly point out that it is difficult for someone to be gently reassuring when they're holding three and a half feet of sharpened steel."

QUICKSAND

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:57 AM

DUDE!!

Buckaroo Banzai was doing it on PURPOSE.... as opposed to, say, "Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death." (actual movie title)

_Qs

DIXIEFLATLINE

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kurukami:
I may well get flamed for this, but I thought Buckaroo Banzai was pretty damned bad. That one was below B-movie-level, despite its chorus line of big names.

Mmmm, that's what I thought when I first saw it as a youngster, but I've lately come to appreciate its subtle brilliance. "Laugh-a while you can, monkey boy!" The Pynchon references. (Better yet, one of Pynchon's later novels actually references the movie.) The unexplained watermelon.

Now, why hasn't anyone mentioned the canonical bad SF movie: Plan 9 From Outer Space? Giant flying tin sombreros, sudden change of lead actor in the middle of filming due to Bela Lugosi's death... Now that was truly, deeply awful.

QUICKSAND

Monday, July 5, 2004 1:10 AM

Well, yeah, Plan 9 wrote the book.

But it was no Van Helsing.

WILDHEAVENFARM

Monday, July 5, 2004 1:34 AM

"Battlefield Earth". John Travolta has never made me want to gouge out my own eyes and stick pencils in my ears more than he did in this film, and that's saying quite a bit. The whole thing was bloody awful. Paraphrasing The Simpsons' Comic Book Guy, "Worst sci-fi ever!"

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

WILDHEAVENFARM

Monday, July 5, 2004 1:36 AM

This is the best site ever for movies of this caliber: http://www.badmovies.org/ The reviews are hilarious! Go now!

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

ARCBEATLE

Monday, July 5, 2004 1:48 AM

Lexx.

If people only beleive wahts in a movie, their damn well sure beleiving Serenity.

ANNIK

Monday, July 5, 2004 2:05 AM

Hmmmm ... I ran across a paperback novel at the library recently, titled "Slave Trade". I forget the author's name, but it was written so horribly, both mechanically and stylistically, that I kept thinking, "Who did this woman sleep with to get paid for publishing this drek?"

At the end I read her mini-bio and was shocked to discover she'd written several novels for the Star Trek franchise (I don't know which series and I can't remember her name).

And whilst I loved Doctor Who over the years, the few episodes of Colin Baker's incarnation (no relation to Tom Baker of earlier Who fame) nearly destroyed my ability to enjoy the series at all. Those were dark days indeed.

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

WILDHEAVENFARM

Monday, July 5, 2004 2:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by arcbeatle:
Lexx.

If people only beleive wahts in a movie, their damn well sure beleiving Serenity.

The series or the movie "I Worship His Shadow". You really need to start by watching the movie. It is, admittedly, wierd, confusing, and fairly awful. http://www.badmovies.org/movies/lexxiwhs/index.html

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

AURAPTOR

Monday, July 5, 2004 2:44 AM

Dunno about 'worst', but here goes my choices of those I enjoyed the least ( not at all )

T.V Series : Lost in space - yes, the original. Hated it as a kid, hate it more now that I'm 'grown up'.

Movie : Event Horizon - Here I was duped thinking this would be a great flick w/ a super cast...WRONG. What a silly, dreadful, depressing movie.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

QUICKSAND

Monday, July 5, 2004 3:02 AM

Hey, what about the 1997 MOVIE, Lost in Space?! That brought new meaning to the word, "Crap," didn't it?

BIKISDAD

Monday, July 5, 2004 3:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Quicksand:
Hey, what about the 1997 MOVIE, Lost in Space?! That brought new meaning to the word, "Crap," didn't it?

Yes, amazingly, it was worse than the series.

Do the "Godzilla" movies count as sci-fi? They're so bad, they're good.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

THEZOOMZOOMKID

Monday, July 5, 2004 3:58 AM

Lexx is really bad.

THEGREYJEDI

Monday, July 5, 2004 4:28 AM

Andromeda dies. Now. Star Trek V was terrible. I think I may be the only human alive what liked Episodes I and II. It showed a prosperous civilization before the Empire ran it into the ground, making it all dirty and gritty, as opposed to the clean of the Republic. Worst movie? An MST3K number called Space Mutiny. It includes Battlestar Galactica rip-offs! And it's terrible! A lot!

"And these three remain: Faith, Hope, and Love. And the greatest of these Love."

JCOBB

Monday, July 5, 2004 4:45 AM

Probably going to get flamed for this.

Farscape.

I don't care, I'm still free.

BIKISDAD

Monday, July 5, 2004 4:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JCobb:
Probably going to get flamed for this.

Farscape.

I don't care, I'm still free.

OK, I'll bite. I'm not a Farscape "fan", per se. I've only just watched the first season and thought it was alright, but certainly not in Firefly's class. But worst sci-fi ever? I'd really like to hear your reasoning for that.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

KOHAN

Monday, July 5, 2004 6:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jello:
Okay, the pod race the first time you watch it is shiny, but then a second time it seems to drag on and be the only thing the movie has going for it.

I personally hated the pod race with all my heart. the on;y thing the movie has for it was the duel of fates, duel blade, oh and darth maul. Sure he's no darth vader, but him being sorta bad-ass just makes darth vader bad-ass-er.

besides... don't tell me that when you "first" saw the trailer, and he showed off the duel sabre infront of two jedi's didn't make you wet your pants. (okay, maybe not that extreme...)

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KOHAN

Monday, July 5, 2004 7:03 AM

well, here goes nothing...

I hate the matrix and it's sequels reassured my feelings towards it.

also Starship Trooper's pretter up there after I read the book; I'd probably hate it even more had I read the book first.

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DAEHL

Monday, July 5, 2004 7:05 AM

Worst sci-fi television show: Harlan Ellison's The Starlost.

JELLO

Monday, July 5, 2004 7:17 AM

Okay, maybe there was a little moistness in my pants, but that all dried up once I actually had to sit through the movie. I admire Liam Neeson and all, but his performance as Qui-Gon was his worst.

The first Matrix movie was insane. I must have seen it 200 times the first year it was out on DVD. I still enjoy watching it to this day. The sequels, on the other hand, deserve to be gathered up and burned and remove any trace that they were ever made. The Wachowskis got lost in the FX and that's what killed those 2 movies. Other than the freeway scene, Reloaded had nothing going for it. The 100-Smith pileup was just a sad, sad attempt at creating something the audience never saw before. And don't get me started on Revolutions. Other than the all out war at the end with the humans and the machines, there was nothing that kept me awake. I wanted to hunt down the Wachowskis and cause them serious bodily harm after seeing that joke of an ending.

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TALONPEST

Monday, July 5, 2004 8:10 AM

Voyager was the worst sci fi TV ever. Not only because it sucked in its own right, but because it desicrated the once-great Star Trek franchise. When you have material that good and botch it that badly, it really shows your total incompetence.

By the same critera, Star Wars: The Phantom Menace is the worst sci fi movie of all time, for the reasons that have been mentioned and many, many more.

CHRONICTHEHEDGEHOG

Monday, July 5, 2004 8:29 AM

Oh dear, I seem to enjoy a lot of these 'worst' sci-fi shows/movies!
I love Lexx for its sillyness, Deep Space 9 is/was the best Star Trek series of all of them, I love episodes I and II (though I didn't like 1 until 2 came out) and I OWN Crime Traveller on DVD, ok it's not the best show in the world and a couple of the episodes are awful but at the same time a couple of the episodes are really damn clever. Voyager wasn't bad, it just had the potential to be the greatest thing ever and they wasted it. I've only seen the pilot of Enterprise, but liked it. I'd say TNG was the worst, perfect people living their perfect lives and debating molecules is not my idea of good television.

I'd go with Battlefield Earth and Event Horizon as worst sci-fi movies ever (I felt ill from watching them both). As for TV, Doctor Who is pretty awful (not pain inducing, but not good) and that short lived firefly TV show, what the hell was that all about?

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MELEE

Monday, July 5, 2004 8:42 AM

If you want crap... try anything in Andromeda after season 2... I was a big fan of the show in it's first season, put up with the second season... then gave up in the 3rd season because it became crap... the Kevin Sorbo action hour instead of, you know, character driven plots... this couldn't have ANYTHING to do with the fact that Sorbo's an executive producer, noooooo *taste the sarcasm*

I'm not bitter at ALL.

RICHARDWORTHINGTON

Monday, July 5, 2004 9:59 AM

I have only seen a few episodes of Lexx but i don't want to see any more.
I liked Crime Traveller!
Matrix Revolutions may not be the worst but was a huge letdown.
Event Horizon was not good either.
Episode 1 and 2 both had god bits and bad bits but always had the problem that they had to live up to the originals.

"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

JK

Monday, July 5, 2004 10:13 AM

Matrix Revolutions. The worst film I have ever seen. It used to be Kill Bill 1, simply because that film bored me to tears with it's self-knowing references to everything under the sun except it's own goddamn story. But Matrix Revolutions ruined the trilogy for me. I'd thought it might redeem Reloaded. But it just buggered it up. At least in Reloaded you have the freeway and that Chateau fight (which is much more interesting than the Smith fight; I swear Keanu Reeves only did two moves whilst filming that, the rest seems to be all CGI). Revolutions has nothing. That fight with Smith at the end? Boring. The end itself? Wet and anti-climactic.

I keep meaning to watch it again, in the hopes that I'll find something, just one thing, to enjoy. But I keep putting it off, because I don't enjoy pain.

JK

GROUNDED

Monday, July 5, 2004 10:22 AM

When I saw Reloaded I was sitting in the cinema thinking 'ohmygodwhataretheydoingtotheMatrix???' over and over again. Even worse, everyone else in the place didn't seem to have noticed how bad it was! I still haven't plucked up the courage to watch Revolutions. I know all too well that it will be awful.

TJ63

Monday, July 5, 2004 10:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Melee:
If you want crap... try anything in Andromeda after season 2... I was a big fan of the show in it's first season, put up with the second season... then gave up in the 3rd season because it became crap... the Kevin Sorbo action hour instead of, you know, character driven plots... this couldn't have ANYTHING to do with the fact that Sorbo's an executive producer, noooooo *taste the sarcasm*

I'm not bitter at ALL.

Got to agree with you there for the most part. The first few episodes of season 3 were good, but after they got rid of the brilliant JMS, it bombed. We've not even seen season 4 in the UK, so it looks like Sky TV agree that it's crap and didn't bother buying it.

People said at the start "Oh no - Hercules in Space". It took Sorbo a while, but he got there eventually. Just one scrap after another, with the excuses for the fight scenes getting thinner by the episode. Shame really, started well, and had a really great forum as well (eh Lillius?). Perhaps it still has a great forum - not been there for ages.

TJ

"Best not be taking it as a suggestion"

FAHQ

Monday, July 5, 2004 10:29 AM

Harlan Ellison walked away from The Starlost because they turned it into such crap and refused to listen to him. Dig a little deeper.

"My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

FAHQ

Monday, July 5, 2004 10:39 AM

JMS? He had nothing to do with AnDumeDuh.

It sucked from the beginning. Here are a few things I have had to say about it in the past-

Excerpts from the "Andromeda and Mutant X Cancelled" thread:

"Crap stories, crap acting and crap production. Who gives a damn about Sorbo's ego? That only made it proof positive that you cannot polish a turd."

"I truly have found the best parts of Andromeda-Generally the minute after the show ends, or the minute before when I remember that taking an hour long power dump would be far more interesting."

"Oh and I thought of another good part of Andromeda-Back before it was on the air and only the synopsis was being bantered around. Seemed like a good idea at the time.....

Oops, time to take another power dump. The subject of Andromeda seems to have a laxative effect.........."

Yep-Worst Sci-Fi ever.

"My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

SLOWSMURF

Monday, July 5, 2004 10:57 AM

I gotta say, I was a HUGE fan of Andromeda, it almost instantly became one of my favorite shows, and I didn't even manage to see the first half of the pilot!(so I was rather confused for a while till I managed to see it)

If you didn't like the show, fine, but it certainly wasn't universally terrible until the latter half of season 2(and season 3 on was just astoundingly bad, hell, even one of the actors quit because he couldn't stand it or his character anymore after they butchered it/him)

As for worst sci fi, I don't know. Stuff I (mostly) didn't enjoy: Ep1/2, Indepence Day, The Day After Tommorow(thats sci fi, or fantasy, relax though, I saw it for free with friends while we mocked it :)), Event Horizon, Matrix 3(and lesserly matrix 2 due to 3 sucking). I really can't come up with many things not mentioned that I thought was horrible.

Oh yeah, Mutant X, not SO bad with the execution(I've seen a few eps here and there), but way WAY too ripped off x-men to get any real enjoyment out of it.

CAPNRAHN

Monday, July 5, 2004 11:06 AM

OK, we're talking egos here - so I'll say I hate what they did to thew movie Stargate in the form of the Ego-Stroke for Harry Dean Anderson called "Stargate - SG1".

Not really worst all in all, but I got tired of nearly all the stories revolving around McNeil.

Dean's preformance cannot hold a candle to Kurt Russel.

but as a wise man once said - "Opinions vary" - heh, now where is that line from? I know, do you?!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

TJ63

Monday, July 5, 2004 11:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FahQ:
JMS? He had nothing to do with AnDumeDuh.

B]

Well spotted! Getting my heroes mixed up. Well, it IS Monday morning!

I meant Robert Hewitt Wolfe, of course.

TJ

"Best not be taking it as a suggestion"

EST120

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:44 PM

this thread reminds me of the simpsons and the comic book guy with his shirt that says "worst episode ever".

anyway....

Quote:
Originally posted by JK:
Matrix Revolutions. The worst film I have ever seen. It used to be Kill Bill 1, simply because that film bored me to tears with it's self-knowing references to everything under the sun except it's own goddamn story.

just have to voice my opinion. i thought matrix revolutions was okay. it was disappointing, but i think the writers were seriously backed into a corner because expectations were so high. regardless of how they ended it, most people probably would have thought it should have been different. i thought kill bill vol 1 was a lot of fun. it is a completely over the top kind of 70s style action movie. i enjoyed it because it was so outrageous. anyhoo, just my humble opinion.

as for bad sci fi, any of the movies shown on MST3K (not the commentary by the guys, just the movies themselves) are absolutely terrible. who authorizes these things?

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CALHOUN

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:44 PM

Quote:
TheZoomZoomKid wrote:
Sunday, July 04, 2004 17:58
Lexx is really bad.

Lexx wasnt all that bad... surely i'm not the only one to think it.

ooh that chicky babe........

EVILTOBZ

Monday, July 5, 2004 12:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Calhoun:
Quote:
TheZoomZoomKid wrote:
Sunday, July 04, 2004 17:58
Lexx is really bad.

Lexx wasnt all that bad... surely i'm not the only one to think it.

ooh that chicky babe........

i agree with ya. lexx was great. i only started watching it in the last series, but it hooked me right in. however, i view it more as a dark comedy than a scifi show so i can understand pure scifi fans not getting into it in the way i did.

the bits where the were on earth with oberon were hilarious though, i loved the lines "you're beautiful and you have big breasts" as a complement to xev and puck's line of "they don't call hime king of the faries for nothing." bloody marvellous.

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ARAWAEN

Monday, July 5, 2004 2:07 PM

Matrix Revolutions did lower my feelings about the other two films, aside from just being bored while I was in the theatre. I am not sure it is quite as bad as Highlander II or Congo, but pretty close.

Watching Lexx was like watching porn with all the sex scenes edited out.

Arawaen

Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.

ARAWAEN

Monday, July 5, 2004 2:17 PM

I have actually found SG-1 to be better than the original movie.

I have never liked stories where enduring evils are thrown down by the arrival of our heroes a mere 2 hours earlier (or whatever short amount of time is covered).

I haven't found the episodes to be anymore Macneil oriented than TNG was Picard oriented.

Kurt Russel is great though, but one cannot expect him to do a tv series on cable.

Arawaen

Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.

CYBERSNARK

Monday, July 5, 2004 3:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chronicthehedgehog:
Oh dear, I seem to enjoy a lot of these 'worst' sci-fi shows/movies!

Yeah me too. Unsettling isn't it?

I'm gonna have to vote for a single episode: Voyager's "Endgame."

The real hell of it is I liked Voyager. I liked the characters, the dry humour and realistic silliness that tended to crop up among the "way too stressed for way too long" characters, the loveably irritable Doc Hologram (still one of my favourite characters anywhere).

I could even look the other way while the inept, too-careful writers reduced the Borg (one of my favourite species/individual beings) to a shadow of their/its former greatness.

It was only Endgame that seemed to be some alternate-universe story. The preternaturally self-confident Janeway is suddenly second-guessing herself, stoic cerebral Chakotay is suddenly a horny teenager, ice-princess 7/9 is suddenly a high school girl. . .

Andromeda has the same disappointed hopes for me. It started out so great, and the Andromeda Ascendant was so beautiful, with all her sweeping chrome curves and the folding battleblades that looked like angel wings. And it had Rev (a devout Wayist monk, kindred to our own Shepherd Book), Tyr (a Nietzschean materialist dedicated to the ideals of genetic superiority and procreation as a religion), and Trance (an immortal goddess of inexplicable origin and Kaylee-like cheerfulness) all sharing the same ship with Rommie (a self-proclaimed goddess of war, despite her man-made origins --the "Ship Made Flesh").

I anticipated head-splitting philosophical struggles, Deep Questions, moral and spiritual issues, and overlapping agendas (and sudden but inevitable betrayals). Instead, I got Captain Hercules.

In general, I guess I can take the "bad" stuff, as long as it doesn't misrepresent itself. What I truly hate, as a writer/Storyteller myself, is a story that doesn't live up to its own potential. There's a certain art to storytelling, and I hate shows that reduce it to formula.

And now, the pedantry:

Quote:
Originally posted by Arawaen:
I have actually found SG-1 to be better than the original movie.
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I haven't found the episodes to be anymore Macneil oriented than TNG was Picard oriented.

I think you mean Richard Dean Anderson (Col. O'Neill). Apparently having him billed as the big star is mainly a marketing ploy --they get to use his name for the star power, but it's still an ensemble show. At least it was back in S5. Gorram Global (the networkthat holds the Canadian broadcast rights without actually broadcasting anything) are almost as bad as Fox.

Quote:
Originally posted by SlowSmurf:
I gotta say, I was a HUGE fan of Andromeda,
(...)
it certainly wasn't universally terrible until the latter half of season 2(and season 3 on was just astoundingly bad, hell, even one of the actors quit because he couldn't stand it or his character anymore after they butchered it/him)

Actually, Keith Hamilton Cobb (likely no relation to Jayne

)(Tyr) was fired. He was more popular with the viewers (and writers) than Sorbo (Dylan), so Sorbo had him emasculated (his arm-spikes removed along with his badassitude). Tyr was still cooler than Dylan. So Sorbo had him written out. End result, Tyr was still cooler than Dylan.

So Sorbo had him brought back as a one-ep villain, who died after being shot in the back after trying to run and getting caught at a dead-end cliff.

If you're referring to Brent "Rev Bem" Stait, he left because he was allergic to the makeup they were using. Not really anybody's fault, just unfortunate (well, lucky for him, it turns out).

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DECKROID

Monday, July 5, 2004 3:09 PM

You are so correct. I HAVE been thinking on this topic for quite a while.

Worst Sci-Fi TV show. I have two, and they both share a common name. "Earth: Final Conflict" and "Earth 2".

No disrespect to Gene, but E:FC was the lamest, most confusing show I have ever tried to watch. And I mean, I really tried. I would watch the episodes and come away with a headache. I dont watch alot of TV. I find my time more valuable than gazing mindlessly at go se for hours on end. I always sat there after watching the newest episode saying "What the hell was that?!?" So, yes, I tried more than most to get into a show. Not just the 10 mins of one episode and wrote the entire series off.

"Earth 2" was a good idea gone horribly, horribly wrong. I thought the crashing of the Advance Team was good, 1000 miles away... maybe extream, but not undoable. But why, oh why, do they always find time to put in the cardboard cutout of a "badguy" who is evil and you and I and the entire cast knows is evil, but they dont do a damn thing about? Also, was the entire series going to be them just walking around towards "New Pacifica" whilst looking to the heavens and endlessly stating that 250 families are on their way?!? And don't get me started on the less than believable, not even close to Henson Quality aliens. (or would that be natives?)

I call her "Vera"

HKCAVALIER

Monday, July 5, 2004 3:16 PM

Glad to see Event Horizon making a lot of people's lists. They've got a singularity driving their ship and they still use mother boards! Sad waste of a good cast. And Sphere was pretty sad too, but not as sad as Event Horizon. But Battlefield Earth really is the most derangingly terrible sci-fi I've ever seen. It was so bad my roommate couldn't stop screaming, I'm not kidding.

Oh, and just to give another minority report: I thought Voyager had a lot to offer: the Vulcan was great, some the plot lines centering on the character that was a year old were very interesting, Seven of Nine had some pretty meaningful episodes (and a lot of dreck), Chakotee was largely wasted (recipient of the Councellor Troy Award for Utterly Flumoxing the Writers) but he had that one very fine episode where he had to battle aliens in his dreams.

HKCavalier

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BROWNCOAT1

Monday, July 5, 2004 5:15 PM

Event Horizon was horrific. I can't believe that movie ever made it to the big screen. It is one of the all time worst movies. Of course Battlefield Earth rates as my all time love to hate sci fi movie. The only time I ever enjoyed Battlefield Earth was at Dragon Con 2 years ago when they held a Mystery Science Theatre 3000 style viewing of the film and the entire room heckled the movie from beginning to end.

As for other bad sci fi shows:

Enterprise
Star Trek Voyager
Andromeda (second season on)

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL

Monday, July 5, 2004 7:20 PM

Movies:

Godzilla (US version - I LOVE the Japanese Godzilla movies.)
Matrix Revolutions.
Armageddon.

TV:
ST: Voyager

I actually enjoy Lexx, and Battlefield Earth is quite fun if you assume it was a deliberate satire. (I know it wasn't, but it makes it easier.)

"I like smackin' 'em!" - Jayne Cobb

INVISIBLEGREEN

Monday, July 5, 2004 7:26 PM

"Vanilla Sky" and "AI: Artificial Intelligence" were both really bad.

KOHAN

Monday, July 5, 2004 7:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JK:
I keep meaning to watch it again, in the hopes that I'll find something, just one thing, to enjoy. But I keep putting it off, because I don't enjoy pain.

yeah, cause pain is scary

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AURAPTOR

Monday, July 5, 2004 7:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JCobb:
Probably going to get flamed for this.

Farscape.

I don't care, I'm still free.

Hey, what do you have against muppets in space ?

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

VELOXI

Monday, July 5, 2004 8:25 PM

I'm sorry, but I think the worst sci-fi I've ever seen, and that's worse than all the one's y'all mentioned, was "Knight Rider 2010". I've never found a root canal more desirable than the couple of hours of my life I wasted watching this one saturday afternoon.

ARAWAEN

Monday, July 5, 2004 9:15 PM

I guess I am one of the few that loved AI. Humanity wipes itself out and robots inherit, simply perfection.

I also loved the message that humanity cannot love a machine for itself and only for its utility. Granted most people confused the end robots for aliens which throws a wrench into understanding the film.

Never saw Vanilla Sky, didn't even know it was sci-fi.

Arawaen

Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.

KOIPOND

Monday, July 5, 2004 9:31 PM

maybe because i'm a machoist, but i watch just about every SciFi show the networks trot out and while many of the movies/series you all have mention are not that good, they are a hundred..nay a million times better then some of the things i've see:

Space Trucker - Dennis Hopper and Stephen Dorff as truckers. in space. whaha?

Space Rangers - take all the storylines and characters of a episode of the Power Rangers. then make it less good. thank you CBS for setting back the cause of SciFi as a main stream art form 10 years.

Mercy Point - ER in space.*sigh* too easy

Misfits of science - picture the A-team with super powers. ok now picture the A-team with super powers traveling around in a icecream van. throw in a young Courtney Cox who if memory serve me correctly wears a cowboy outfit at one point. with a little red hat

Wolf Lake - lets watch an episode. werewolves, ok this could be good. ooooh Lou Diamond phillips, fancy. hmm boring plot but i can live with that. watching, watching, wait a second what are those two wolves doing. are they fighting? OH MY GOD, they're doing it. i got my dog fixed so i wouldn't need to see that kind of thing. Bad CBS! no more SciFi for you!

JCOBB

Monday, July 5, 2004 9:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bikisdad:
Quote:
Originally posted by JCobb:
Probably going to get flamed for this.

Farscape.

I don't care, I'm still free.

OK, I'll bite. I'm not a Farscape "fan", per se. I've only just watched the first season and thought it was alright, but certainly not in Firefly's class. But worst sci-fi ever? I'd really like to hear your reasoning for that.

I think its because I always read it like it "tried" to be good, but always came off as more of the cheesy, (and this is just me) scifi movies/shows I hate.

I dunno, the dialogue felt... wrong, I dunno.

I don't care, I'm still free.

ECGORDON

Monday, July 5, 2004 11:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Arawaen:
I guess I am one of the few that loved AI. Humanity wipes itself out and robots inherit, simply perfection.

I also loved the message that humanity cannot love a machine for itself and only for its utility. Granted most people confused the end robots for aliens which throws a wrench into understanding the film.

Nope, you're not the only one. I liked it too. Not the greatest SF to be filmed for sure, but a far cry better that some of the gos se other people like. If you care to, check out my review - http://templetongate.tripod.com/ai.htm

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

POLGARA

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 12:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kohan:
well, here goes nothing...

I hate the matrix and it's sequels reassured my feelings towards it.

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VETERAN

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 12:30 AM

I think Earth Final Conflict is the worst Sci-Fi TV Show. It had potential but became really confusing, especially after it lost the lead character.

The worst Sci-Fi movie has to be Plan Nine from Outer Space. It's got the Golden Turkey Award to prove it. The star, Bella Legosi (please excuse any spelling error there), died before the movie was completed and the director simply replaced him with his wife's chiropractor.

Also there was a movie called the The Thing with Two heads. A mad scientist has his head attached to Rosie Greer's body (with out removing Rosie's). At a distance you can tell Rosie walking was around with a rubber head on his shoulder. In the close ups it looked something like a campfire skit, where one guy stands behind the other and rests his head on his shoulder.

JELLO

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 3:26 AM

The Dungeons & Dragons movie! 'Nuff said.

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DBLADE

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 4:42 AM

The all time worst science fiction movie was Highlander II.

Like they said in the first movie "There can be only one."

Unfortunately they made sequels two, three, and so on.

Sorry. I am still bitter about driving over an hour to see it in the theater in another city despite knowing in my heart that a movie like Highlander is a singular experience.

Oh yes. Matrix 1 great. Matrix 2 left me cynical, sad, and empty. I didn't even bother to see Matrix 3. No longer would I trust fave directors again. Okay I take that back. Joss Whedon may be the only director/writer I trust any more. He has hit a home run with everything he has had creative control over. He has yet to disappoint me and I have a feeling that Serenity will be a grand slam.

NUISANCE

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 6:04 AM

I would consider a vote for Event Horizon as bad sci-fi, but it worked pretty well for me with its horror, total ick factor and weirdness.

One that I haven't seen mentioned is Wild Wild West. Most of the technical feats we were supposed to believe during it made me think, "Huh? Would that work?"

Part of Chronicles of Riddick bothered me a lot. If you haven't seen it and still want to, don't highlight.

Select to view spoiler:

They talk about the prison planet as being 700 degrees above during the day and 300 degrees below at night. In Celsius, -273 is absolute zero. So either the writers got the temp. wrong or we were supposed to believe that Fahrenheit is still used among a populace that commonly travels throught space. So, I spent a bit of the movie trying to figure out if the writers were stupid or stupid.

KOHAN

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 8:51 AM

I got another two

the Tuxedo, the Medallion...

never thought I could hate a jackie chan film... these two movies proved me wrong.

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GAIJIN

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 9:15 AM

TV Shows: Automan, Team Knight Rider

Movies: Godzilla (Matthew Broderick one), Highlander II (Not even that director's cut that got rid of all the aliens and sci fi parts could save that turd), and Ishtar...not sci fi, but still probably the worst piece ofcrap I ever saw. I can't even remember what it was about...I just recall they were in the desert...and they were bitter.

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Tuesday, July 6, 2004 12:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dblade:
The all time worst science fiction movie was Highlander II.

Like they said in the first movie "There can be only one."

Unfortunately they made sequels two, three, and so on.

Sorry. I am still bitter about driving over an hour to see it in the theater in another city despite knowing in my heart that a movie like Highlander is a singular experience.

Oh yes. Matrix 1 great. Matrix 2 left me cynical, sad, and empty. I didn't even bother to see Matrix 3. No longer would I trust fave directors again. Okay I take that back. Joss Whedon may be the only director/writer I trust any more. He has hit a home run with everything he has had creative control over. He has yet to disappoint me and I have a feeling that Serenity will be a grand slam.

Any Highlander movie after the first one is a bad sci fi movie. I personally refuse to acknowledge any of them were ever created. It is easier than dealing w/ the pain.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

FAHQ

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 2:16 PM

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Originally posted by TJ63:
Quote:
Originally posted by FahQ:
JMS? He had nothing to do with AnDumeDuh.

B]

Well spotted! Getting my heroes mixed up. Well, it IS Monday morning!

I meant Robert Hewitt Wolfe, of course.

TJ

"Best not be taking it as a suggestion"

No problem there-I am such a huge fan of JMS (Although not so that I am blind) that I had to give the benefit of the doubt ;)

"My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

NUR

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 3:08 PM

curse the multiple post

NUR

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 3:09 PM

curse the multiple post

NUR

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 3:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by annik:
Hmmmm ... I ran across a paperback novel at the library recently, titled "Slave Trade". I forget the author's name, but it was written so horribly, both mechanically and stylistically, that I kept thinking, "Who did this woman sleep with to get paid for publishing this drek?"

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

Oh my god. YES! I thought I was the only one to know the horror of Slave Trade. I read that book last month...well not completely, I put it down with a few chapters left to go and frankly I'm satisfied to never ever know how it ends. The worst part about it though, it that it is only the first in a series, why a publishing house would inflict that on the innocent public I'll never know.

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KASUO

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 4:01 PM

Anyone remember Nightman? Wow, that was just.. a piece of go-se as I remember it.

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ANNIK

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 4:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Nur:
Quote:
Originally posted by annik:
Hmmmm ... I ran across a paperback novel at the library recently, titled "Slave Trade". I forget the author's name, but it was written so horribly, both mechanically and stylistically, that I kept thinking, "Who did this woman sleep with to get paid for publishing this drek?"

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

Oh my god. YES! I thought I was the only one to know the horror of Slave Trade. I read that book last month...well not completely, I put it down with a few chapters left to go and frankly I'm satisfied to never ever know how it ends. The worst part about it though, it that it is only the first in a series, why a publishing house would inflict that on the innocent public I'll never know.

Well, stupidly, I kept reading it, thinking "it has to get better." Well, it didn't. And just in case you really wanted to know, it didn't really end, as such. I suppose she was trying for a suspenseful ending that would draw the reader to the next book, but it more or less ended ... just the same as she could've ended it any time after chapter 1.

On the bright side, it made any book from the Gor series seem like something worth reading, LOL!

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

DBLADE

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 6:11 PM

On the bright side, it made any book from the Gor series seem like something worth reading, LOL!

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

I almost mentioned Gor myself. Talk about an author with a kooky fetish. I felt like I was reading an instruction booklet on keeping sex slaves.

Daryl B.

QUESTOR

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 6:27 PM

I never saw Nightman (or Space Precienct for that matter)m so I can't judge. Wasn't there a rather awful "Adventures of Sinbad" out there? But, my true choice for worst SF TV Series: "Sliders." Despite the presence of John Rhys-Davis.

Worst SF movie: Wow, there's a lot out there. Someone's mentioned "Armageddon," someone else mentioned Roland Emmerich's take on "Godzilla." I haven't seen "The Core" how bad was that? Most of the movies Scifi Channel shows look horrible. But, I guess I'll throw that other asteroid hiting the Earth movie - "Deep Impact."

QUICKSAND

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 6:32 PM

Quote:
I almost mentioned Gor myself. Talk about an author with a kooky fetish. I felt like I was reading an instruction booklet on keeping sex slaves.

There's an instruction booklet on how to keep sex slaves?

Is it out in paperback?

JADEHAND

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 7:33 PM

Anyone ever see Darkstar? *shudders*
"don't taunt happy fun ball."

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LAILING

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 8:17 PM

Worst Sci-Fi movie: Battle beyond the stars. Messages in walnuts!? My friends & I walked out - and went into Death on the Nile, instead!

As for Matrix 3 - well, jeez, Trin, DIE ALREADY, and get on with the movie! I swear, it was the longest movie death since Spock - and not nearly so sad! And as for Neo and the seeing-without-eyes trick - Mua-dib did it first, and it therefore lost much of it's "wow" factor - for me, at least.

"They've gone to *plaid*!"

INSIGHT SPINNER

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 9:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kurukami:
I may well get flamed for this, but I thought Buckaroo Banzai was pretty damned bad. That one was below B-movie-level, despite its chorus line of big names.

No, no...I LOVE that movie. It's a laugh riot. And the blessed and wonder Rosalyn Cash is in it, too. She is a dred-loc sister icon!!! No no...take that back.

hehehe

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ANNIK

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 9:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Quicksand:
Quote:
I almost mentioned Gor myself. Talk about an author with a kooky fetish. I felt like I was reading an instruction booklet on keeping sex slaves.

There's an instruction booklet on how to keep sex slaves?

Is it out in paperback?

Yeah, but out of print. But thanks to oddball customers with kooky habits, I have a standing order at most second-hand shops for when copies show up. I've got a bunch available, all in various conditions. Wave me if you want to know more.

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

ANNIK

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 9:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:
Anyone ever see Darkstar? *shudders*
"don't taunt happy fun ball."

Is that the one with the attempt to teach a computer phenomenology at the end? That part is great, but the rest is pretty awful.

All-time worst SF movie I've tried to watch was the Aussie film (sorry, Downunder Browncoats) "The Quiet Earth" ... it's the first (and only, so far) time that I actually saw movie patrons falling asleep ... and I nearly did the same.

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 6, 2004 10:29 PM

Does "Killer Tomatoes" count?

"Lost in Space: The Movie" was pretty awful too.

The remake of "The Invasion of the Bodysnatchers"?

"Repo Man"

As far as books are concerned, you can take amost of the sword and sorcery (except MZ Bradley's) and the Helliconia series and make a toasty bonfire.

DESANGRO

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 1:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jello:

The first Matrix movie was insane. I must have seen it 200 times the first year it was out on DVD. I still enjoy watching it to this day. The sequels, on the other hand, deserve to be gathered up and burned and remove any trace that they were ever made. The Wachowskis got lost in the FX and that's what killed those 2 movies. Other than the freeway scene, Reloaded had nothing going for it. The 100-Smith pileup was just a sad, sad attempt at creating something the audience never saw before. And don't get me started on Revolutions. Other than the all out war at the end with the humans and the machines, there was nothing that kept me awake. I wanted to hunt down the Wachowskis and cause them serious bodily harm after seeing that joke of an ending.

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I loved the first Matrix movie; heck, I even wrote a short little fanfic off of it (about the woman with the 'white rabbit' tattoo).

So I had high hopes for the sequels. I can't say that they were the worst sci-fi EVAH, but the Matrix Reloaded left a bad taste in my mouth. I didn't like the new characters, I didn't care for Zion, and the only good things, ironically, about the sequels was the ongoing conflict between Smith and Neo. I wish that the sequels had concentrated more on that. My favorite scene in Revolutions was when Trinity and Neo flew up through the smoggy cloud layer and saw the sun for the first time; that was beautiful. The Smith and Neo battles were pretty good, too. But the films were too uneven in quality to support and so I gave up on them entirely.

BLUESUNWORSHIPPER

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 1:49 AM

Howdy,

Dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but there's a truly, truly horrific movie called "Space Mutiny" that sits at the very top of my list of the worst science fiction movies of all time. This movie is SO bad, that they used the special effects from Battlestar Galactica...of the GALACTICA herself...but played BACKWARDS so that the BACK of the ship is the FRONT. The interiors are shot in a brewery. The shuttle cars inside the ship are golf carts. The costumes are by Ronco. 'Nuff said. I kid you not, this is bad. Worst. Sci-fi. Ever.

Okay, rounding out the list of the Top Ten:

Space Mutiny (natch)
Creature (the one with Klaus Kinski)
Star Wars Holiday Special
The Roger Corman Fantastic Four Movie
Star Command (A really bad American series made by a German company)
Lexx (God, I hate Lexx)
Cleopatra 2525 (Sorry, Zoe!)
Galactica 1980 (Except for the Starbuck episode...that ruled.)
Ark II
Anything from the second season of Buck Rogers.

I defy ANYONE to beat Space Mutiny.

- T

BLUESUNWORSHIPPER

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 1:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:
Anyone ever see Darkstar? *shudders*
"don't taunt happy fun ball."

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Now, now...Dark Star was a college student film in the early 1970's, PRE-Star Wars, and made by John Carpenter (Escape From New York, Halloween, They Live) and Dan O'Bannon (Alien). In fact, the basic plot of Dark Star was reworked by O'Bannon into a movie he called "Star Beast." The studio didn't like the title, though, so they renamed it. You might have seen it, a little-known flick that might have slipped past you...called 'Alien.' Everybody's gotta start somewhere, right?

Of course, you might also have seen a little independent film that came out in the late 1970's called "Within the Woods" that was the prototype for a movie called "Book of the Dead." The studio didn't like THAT title either, so it got renamed. Anybody ever seen "The Evil Dead"? Made by a guy named Sam Raimi...of Spider-Man fame. Hey, like I said...everybody's gotta start somewhere.

Don't forget, Joss' first "Buffy" prototype was simply horrible...and the movie made from his original script was terrible. If somebody had judged him based on a first work, then there would be no 'Firefly.' Judge not, lest ye be judged, or kicked in the head by somebody. Your choice.

- T

MERCEDESTROY

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 2:02 AM

I don't think it qualifies for Sci-Fi, but my own personal least favorite move of all time is

Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things

I think the cast were all family members and friends metamorphosed into wooden puppets. I collect bad movies and cheesy dialog and even I could not stomach that one.

Debs

If Justice is the dish, then I am your waitress

HKCAVALIER

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 5:27 AM

I don't think anyone's mentioned it, but I just remembered a little gem from 1989: Moontrap staring Walter "Chekov" Koenig. Terrible. Embarrassing low-G wire fu, space strippers, and Walter Koenig playing a tough guy. Just terrible.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

ZAPPSTER

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 2:05 PM

I'm a massive Farscape fan. I like it more than Firefly. I repsect your opinion and all but surely you must've seen something worse? Another question have you seen all of the episodes? or are you basing this on a few minutes of viewing? After all the original poster asked for worst scifi you've seen in it's entirety in which case I hope you have seen it all.

One of the best aspects of the show for me was the fact that all the characters weren't black and white, they were grey so to speak. For example the main bad guy for most of the series, actually seems like he's doing what he's doing for the good of others and not just taking over worlds and crap like that. You also see the main good guy doing really questionable things, which make you think "hey isn't he meant to be good?"

I actually thought the dialogue was brilliant. There are some really weird episodes which I don't think have been done in other sci-fi shows, for that alone I wouldn't class it as worst sci-fi ever because at least it tried to be different, it was innovative.

LAILING

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 6:00 PM

Please, oh please, let me list what I consider the worst fantasy movie of all time (and boy, are there some doozies)!
ATAR THE FIGHTING EAGLE!!
The "monster" at the end of the movie was very obviously a giant plastic spider - front half only - on a hydraulic arm. It came half way out of the cave, then came to an abrupt halt at the end of the hydraulic arm. Our Hero then stabs it, and several liters of what looks exactly like BEER come gushing out! Goddess, it was awful! And then I heard, there was a SEQUEL! (Or was Fighting Eagle the sequel?) At any rate...AAUUGGHH!!

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 7:01 PM

To keep going with the book mentions, I wish I could remember the name of the worst fantasy book I ever read, but I seem to have blocked it out. It was pretty much crap most of the way through, sub-standard meathead soldier gets roped into protecting weakling priestess who can't actually use her powers, b/c they exist only to be transferred to the magician who takes her virginity. They run from evil wizard who wants to sleep with her b/c it will make him the most powerful being ever, blah, blah, blah. But what really cut it for me was that, in the end, when evil wizard has captured them & has her locked up in his tower, she talks him into turning off all of the alarms so she can have a night of privacy before 'giving in to him.' So what does our girl do, with all of the surveillance turned off? The answer you want to hear is 'run the hell out of the tower, since nothing's watching her!' Unfortunately, the answer is 'sleep with the meathead, since her magic is non-transferrable to his non-magical sort, thus 'freeing' her from her magic/virginity & pissing off evil wizard.' Then he lets them go and they, having got together for no apparent reason, 'romantically' ride off into the horizon together, with dialogue determined to set up a sequel.

I read it when I was in junior high, and I was so pissed off I threw it across the room. Given how seriously I treat books, this indicated major anger. And then I sold it to a used bookseller, at an age when I kept every single book I read.

Man, that book still pisses me off!

EVILMIKE

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 8:25 PM

I was home sick today. Kept running into something that certainly should be mentioned here -- the Buck Rogers TV show. The horror! Bad acting, bad sets, bad effects, bad plots, bad... everything. The two things I don't understand: how this series ever got to air, and how Jamie Lee Curtis ended up as a guest star for an episode.

ASAKUMA

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 11:09 PM

I disagree with every one. Andromedia with what's his name, played Hercules, YETCH, rotten.

ANNIK

Wednesday, July 7, 2004 11:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by evilmike:
I was home sick today. Kept running into something that certainly should be mentioned here -- the Buck Rogers TV show. The horror! Bad acting, bad sets, bad effects, bad plots, bad... everything. The two things I don't understand: how this series ever got to air, and how Jamie Lee Curtis ended up as a guest star for an episode.

Seared into my brain forever is the awful Buck Rogers episode where they rescue a deaf slave girl, and Buck still remembers a bit of ASL fingerspelling from his pre-future days. He managed to get out "o-k" with enormous difficultly and it was painful to watch.

Second to that for visual pain was an episode of ST:TNG where an alien spoke in ASL through a "chorus" that manages to get killed at some point, requiring Data to become an instant translator.

That's when I learned that Data must have a psychic chip in his head, as he was managing to interpret things BEFORE the deaf alien guy actually SAID it!

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

DARKJESTER

Thursday, July 8, 2004 2:28 AM

Quote:
I don't think anyone's mentioned it, but I just remembered a little gem from 1989: Moontrap staring Walter "Chekov" Koenig. Terrible. Embarrassing low-G wire fu, space strippers, and Walter Koenig playing a tough guy. Just terrible.

Don't forget Bruce Campbell as Walter's sidekick - he's taken over Borg-style and becomes a bad guy. Best thing about the movie was the gratuitous nudity.
However, my vote would go for a stinker of a series back in the early 80's, called (I believe) "Automan", about a computer-generated holographic crimefighter or some such. I remember that he worked best at night because of the power needs for him to appear. Close to sunrise in the one episode I remember he started fading, talking about feeling the thousands of toasters and coffee makers switching on all over the country. REALLY bad stuff.

MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

ALIENZOOKEEPER

Thursday, July 8, 2004 2:42 AM

What I saw of Cleopatra 2525 was awful. true, but it did have Gina Torres...

Also, i liked what they did with cyberpunk, there. I saw one bit where the ditzt bimbette had to do surgery to remove something, on the fly. There was a holographic overlay to talk her through it, which, i have to say, was five minutes of viewing time not wasted on, say, reality TV...

vince

CHRISTHECYNIC

Thursday, July 8, 2004 3:05 AM

I think I have everyone beat, but I have not seen all of the movies listed here.

Worst movie I have ever seen, outclassing Alligator II, Armagedon, Deep Impact, Meteor, Asteroid, and MST3K movies in all around suckyness, is Mosquito.

The thing is the same as the movie suggests, giant radioactive mosquitoes. This beat out the other one word titles (Octopus, Creature, Arachnid, Aracniphobia, Python, Boa) night of titles (Night of the living dead, night of the comet) machine taking over ones (maximum overdrive, car) who is the alien ones (starship troopers two, the pod people) post apocalyptic ones, (knight rider 2010) war in heaven ones (prophecy three) and generally all other junk I have watched.

The only movie that I can see coming close lives only as a vague memory and the thing playing on the oracle’s tv in the original matrix. Night of the Lepus. I call it “Attack of the six foot bunnies”.

CAPTAINTIGHTPANTS

Thursday, July 8, 2004 3:16 AM

Ok... so many mentioned already!

Movies...

The WORST

Star Trek 5
any Highlander movie after #1

I could never get through those without cringing and hoping NO ONE knew I'd actually spent money to see them

REALLY BAD...

Event Horizon
Sphere
The Core
The Day After Tomorrow
The Green Slime

OH YEAH! Thanks for reminding me! Night of the Lepus... just mentioned that to someone tonight too! And with Doc McCoy from classic Trek! Nice guy, bad movie...

TV Shows...

The WORST

Lexx

REALLY BAD...

Cleo 2525
SG-1
Andromeda
Voyager

You're gonna come with us...

TAUSETIPRIME

Sunday, July 11, 2004 2:28 PM

Hehe to quote your post:

"but as a wise man once said - "Opinions vary" - heh, now where is that line from? I know, do you?! "

This is from another awesomely bad movie: Roadhouse

Swayze's portrayal of the warrior-poet was the lamest. And that arch-villain fighter guy......worst thing ever.

I wasn't askin'.....I was tellin'.....

WORDSMITH

Sunday, August 8, 2004 2:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by annik:

And whilst I loved Doctor Who over the years, the few episodes of Colin Baker's incarnation (no relation to Tom Baker of earlier Who fame) nearly destroyed my ability to enjoy the series at all. Those were dark days indeed.

B]

Sadly for Colin Baker, it was down to the scripts. Any fan who has seen the "Stranger" films he did afterwards (with a certain 'Miss Brown') will know that he's actually VERY good at being a good Dr Who. His role was ruined by the editorial choice of scripts and style.

WORDSMITH

Sunday, August 8, 2004 3:26 PM

Worst ever ... Hmmm ... where to start?

Films:-

Highlander II - only this one specifically - III and IV were better, if not exactly GOOD.

Dr Who - The TV Movie - it lost everything which made Dr Who what it was, by turning it into another "pap for the typical American viewer" film. The TV Series was just variable and cheaply done (but see below).

Short Circuit II - sorry, this was just

TV Series:-

Doctor Who - Colin Baker seasons - these were the exceptions to me liking Dr Who, NOT because of Colin Baker, but because of the way his character was being written. It marked the beginning of the end for the Doc, and nothing which Sylvester McCoy did could save it after than.

ST-TNG - any episode where Wesley Crusher saved the crew To quote Doglas Adams - "the one thing no-one could stand was a smart-ass". And he WAS, in spades.

Space:1999 - second series particularly . Season one was ok in places, and the Eagles looked like someone had really THOUGHT about their design ... but Series 2, targeted for the US market, was a heap of dingo's kidneys.

Dishonourable mention - Flash Gordon (movie version) for just one TERRIBLE joke - "What do you mean, Flash Gordon approaching? Despatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body."

For those who don't live in the UK, 'Flash' and 'Ajax' were two different brands of floor cleaner.

TETHYS

Sunday, August 8, 2004 4:21 PM

Lexx, Highlander 2 stand out the most....though I do love the MacLeod movies, the second one stinks..

disagree about the DS:9 posts....that sereies is unlike any other trek series that was made, and it ttruly isn't fair to compare with one of the other best series I have seen: Babylon 5

"You replaced Firefly with *barf* Fastlane?!"
Zoe:"Take me Sir. Take me hard" - War Stories

ANNIK

Sunday, August 8, 2004 5:22 PM

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And whilst I loved Doctor Who over the years, the few episodes of Colin Baker's incarnation (no relation to Tom Baker of earlier Who fame) nearly destroyed my ability to enjoy the series at all. Those were dark days indeed.

Sadly for Colin Baker, it was down to the scripts. Any fan who has seen the "Stranger" films he did afterwards (with a certain 'Miss Brown') will know that he's actually VERY good at being a good Dr Who. His role was ruined by the editorial choice of scripts and style.

Ah, well, I've never seen anything else he's been in ... sorry to hear he *would've* been a good choice, given half a chance.

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

HOWARDROARKLAUGHED

Saturday, August 14, 2004 3:57 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a new contender. A little piece of gos se called Alien vs. Predator. Such a great premise executed so poorly.
Someone mentioned the Ator movie staring Miles O'Keefe. Worse yet was its sequel, The Cave Dwellers. At least Cave Dwellers was done on MST3K, and was hilarious.
Space Mutiny was horrific, but if you watch the MST3K version, it is fantastic. "Big McLargehuge" "Rump Slabfist" "Rock Hardpecs" It's classic.
Anybody remember Space Hunter starring Molly Ringwald or Cherry 2000 with Melanie Griffith? How about A Boy and his Dog with Don Johnson? Terrible!
As for TV, the V series was heinous. The two miniseries were good, but the weekly show they tried to make was disasterous.

"Thou art God"-Valentine Michael Smith

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