Request to fireflyfans trading on HSX
POSTED BY: SoupCatcher
UPDATED: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:54
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Totals: current as of IamJacksUserName (Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 11:10)
4 059 273 - frfly (movie stock)
0 190 038 - atudy (star bond)
0 139 669 - nfill (star bond)
0 096 000 - cejio (star bond)
0 066 000 - dkrum (star bond)
0 041 400 - univx (fund)
0 025 005 - scifi (fund)
Anchors for this thread.
day 1 summary: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=4219&m=47494#47494
day 2 summary: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=4219&m=47815#47815
day 3 summary: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=4219&m=48098#48098
version 4 summary: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=4219&m=79750#79750
previous threads re HSX: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=4219&m=47708#47708
how to interpret volume: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=4219&m=47415#47415
This has turned into a tally of shares of Firefly stock held by fireflyfans. Add your shares and keep a running tally. I'll edit this first post occasionally throughout the day with the current total and do a once daily summary until the posts stop coming.
This is also an experiment for me in summarizing long posts and giving anchors throughout the thread.
original post:
I'm curious how many shares of FRFLY are actually held by us. The volume for FRFLY is currently at 1,451,481 shares (I think I'm interpreting this number right). The reason I'm curious is that the stock has dropped a little bit, which I think is indicative of some selling of shares. I know that none of us are selling our shares so I'm wondering what percentage of people trading FRFLY are not fireflyfans. I'm proposing a running tally.
SoupCatcher: 50,000
fireflyfans Total: 50,000
volume: 1,451,481 (as of 4pm pst) **
** editted to add: after further clarification (full post further down in this thread) this number reflects shares traded in the previous day, NOT total number of shares held. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part.
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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Kurukami: 20,000.
fireflyfans Total: 70,000.
History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.
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50,000 shares
Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.
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Beckinsale: 50,000
fireflyfans Total: 170,000
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PhysicsChick: 50,000
fireflyfans: 220,000
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Shiny: 50K
FFF.net total: 270K (would be 300K if Kurukami had maxed out on it!) ;p
RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.
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Cuda: 50,000
Total: 320,000
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I have 50,000 shares.
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I own 15k.
Total: 385k
________
"Let's moon 'em!"
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50,000 for me
Total: 435,000
"How drunk was I last night?"
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Tymenv: 50k - 485000
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50,000 for me.
Makes that hmmm, carry the.... plus add the....
Total so far, 485,000.
"Huh"
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Looks like the total is a little off, since you BOTH somehow managed to post at the exact same time lol. By my calculations the total should be 535k
"How drunk was I last night?"
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I got 50,000.
So that should make 585,000.
"Wherever you go, there you are."
- Dr. B. Banzai
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I have 38349 shares
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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I have 50K.
Can't Take My Gorram Sky 
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Total: 673,349
Please keep updating the total as you go.
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Quote:
Originally posted by bocman:
I have 38349 shares
You did that just to be difficult, didn't you?

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.
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50k
I'll be in my bunk.-Jayne
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So based on the numbers that poured in, it got me thinking that volume doesn't equal shares held. So I asked for some clarification and got the following responses.
Quote:
the "volume" noted for a particular stock is probably the amount of shares traded (bought, sold, shorted/covered) in the past hour or so. I'm not sure "how often" those figures are reflected. It could be within the past 24 hours...
I'm sure if that's wrong, or if it's a time period I don't know about, someone will correct it.
and
Quote:
there is no way to tell "how many" shares of a stock is "outstanding" since HSX's Virtual Bank can issue as many shares of a movie stock (bond, etc.) as is demanded.
This is not like the real stock market, where you can only buy a stock if someone is selling it.
You can go to Faaborg's Analyzer site and see some of the volumes, etc., for stocks, but you won't find "outstanding" shares held, etc.
The reason for this is, HSX sells the data it analyzes from demand of a certain movie stock, and if there was a limit to the amount of shares issued, then they couldn't "realistically" figure out the demand for a certain movie, star, etc.
Here's the Faaborg's page for Firefly,
http://analyze.faaborgs.net/stockInfo.asp?type=0&ticker=frfly
So based on that new information it seems my original request has turned into a fun exercise
with less value for analysis.total: 723,349
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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I got me my 50,000 shares.
The running total now stands at 723,349 shares bought up by us Browncoats. That's about half of the outstanding shares, so far. 
Talk about manipulating the market 
We need more Browncoats to join up and start buying!!
They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....
Oh yeah,
you, FOX TV!!
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EEK! Gorramit, I'm slow.
Make that total 773,349 shares 
They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....
Oh yeah,
you, FOX TV!!
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add another 50,000
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With my 50,000, that's
873,349
"Just keep walkin, preacher man."
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I've got 50,000 so that makes 923,349 shares so far i think
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50k here
so 973,3sumpthinSumpthin
Math was never my strong suit
Crow
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Tossin in my 50,000 shares.
Johnny H.-
"How'd you like a bite outta this green apple, America?"
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Supplying the math:
1023,349
"Just keep walkin, preacher man."
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Add another 20 K...
OK, 973 K plus his 50 plus my 20...
Yowza! One million, 43 thousand!
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I have 50K as well. Got them right after they appeared :)
Makes 1 million 93 thousand!
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I aint sellin' my shares until the TV series comes back. Maybe not even then, unless someone wants to buy them for REAL mon-ay!
I have 50k shares;
total 1143k.
Getting close now... It's lookin' to me more and more like we're singlehandedly responsible. Way it should be, I suppose! Six or so more fans to post and we're guilty as charged!
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50k pour moi...
Therefor:
1193K
"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you finish criticizing him, you are a mile away....and you have his shoes."
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I've got 50k too. Someone else do the math for me, I'm lazy.
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1243k total.
Four more to go... :D
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+ my 50,000
For a total of 1,743,000!
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benchcoat/Chuck: 50K
which brings to 1293? (can't remember the last total)
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i have 50k shares so 1843k
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i gots 30,893 shares
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and 50K for me but I thinks we have some funny math at the end here.
We're up to 1,443,000 by my count!
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That's incredible. That's 3 time so far in this post that people have posted at the exact same second!
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There's just an acre of us
. This is just a little end of day housekeeping post (I guess I feel responsible).
32 investors (in order of post)
kurukami, rklenseth, beckinsale, physicschick, shiny, cuda, spikeandjezebel, kasuo, insanespike, tymen, jrc, werzbowski, bocman, canttakesky, bluesuncorporategoon, ecmorgan69, grimchaos, knibblet, alexandria, crowfly, justice mcnasty, kay, mycroft2, wydraz, visionary, talonpest, malcolm, benchcroft, mudder, pbc1975, switchy, soupcatcher (apologies for misspelling)
27 @ 50,000
2 @ 20,000
1 @ 15,000
1@ 38,349
1 @ 30,893
Total: 1,474,242
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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Quote:
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Total: 1,474,242
Adding my 50k, we are up to 1,524,242.
Rob
If you can't run, you crawl, and if you can't crawl, well, if you can't do that, you find someone to carry you.
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adding my 50k to makes:
1,574,242 of a total volume of 2,785,693
shiny!!
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I have 50k. Makes the total 1,624,242 then.
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I got my 50k.
1,674,242 then.
Shiny.
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There's 50k this way.
New Total: 1,724,242
No matter how we live, we live to die.
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I have 50,000
My wife has 30,000
1,724,242
+50,000
+30,000
--------
1,804,242
By My Count
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Forgot to mention...
My wife also has 50,000 shares.
So that's 1,854,242 I believe.
"Wherever you go, there you are."
- Dr. B. Banzai
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50K shares here.
Simon: I've never shot anyone before.
Book: I was there, son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet.
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I have 40,874
TOTAL: 1,945,116
FWIW, my other holdings, having just joined HSX as a result of this thread:
40,874 Firefly
25,000 Supernatural Law, Logan's Run
5,000 Comic Book Fund
2,000 Iron Man
1,000 Atlas Shrugged, Ghost Rider, Hogan's Heroes, Iron Fist, Amazing Ads. of Kavalier & Clay, Shazam!, Sub-Mariner, The Watchmen, Wonder Woman, Ferris Bueller's Day Off 2
"I'll be in my bunk..."
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I have 32,234. Working slowly towards the max.
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Please keep a running total!!
Total: 1,977,350
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I have 50k
Total: 2,027,350
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I have 50 000. I think that brings the running total to .........2 077 350. Wow
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EarthThatWas with 50k.
Total: 2,177,350
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I got me 50K shares @ 1,768,500
I call her "Vera"
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Quote:
Originally posted by EarthThatWas:
EarthThatWas with 50k.
Total: 2,177,350
I don't mean to be the math police, but I think
2,077,350 + 50,000 = 2,127,350
Quote:
I got me 50K shares @ 1,768,500
I not trying to be anal, just trying to keep it accurate.
Total = 2,177,350
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Cygnet:
50K + 2,177,350 = 2,227,350
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Nothing is ever so profoundly regretted as a kind act.
Robertson Davies
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Here's my 50k
2,227,350 + 50k = 2277,350
The value of my shares has gone up 71% since I bought them 1/17/04. Someday soon I bet it gonna be 100%!
"...but I've been sane awhile now and change is good"
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Hi Tomanta, Li Lee here.
HSX: Universal Studio Fund
10 000 IamJacksUsername (+8%)
1 000 Friend I got hooked on the show, and HSX
10 000 Friend of above friend
21 000 univx stock owned by fff on this thread
HSX: Serenity
2 277 350 Total after Starhand
+
50 000 IamJacksUsername (bought on the 1st day, +96% since then)
50 000 Above mentioned friend
50 000 Above mentioned foaf
2 427 350 frfly stock owned by fff on this thread, 30d vol: 54 819 325
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Got my 50K as well
2,477,350 if the previous post is correct.
(BTW, first post in thread should be updated to reflect statistics, so easy to find)
~Another Firefly fan
Keep flying
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I've got my 50,000 shares
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Quote:
(BTW, first post in thread should be updated to reflect statistics, so easy to find)
Good suggestion. Done. I'll also do a summary post at the end of the day.
Total: 2,527,350
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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And 32 650 more makes for a total of
2 560 000
I Like round numbers.
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May the road rise to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May you be in heaven an hour before
The Devil knows you’re dead.
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What is the HSX? Hang Seng? What does buying these shares do? And what are the shares for? Could someone please explain? Does this help Firefly? If it does I would be willing to give it a shot! Thanks.
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Quote:
What is the HSX? Hang Seng? What does buying these shares do? And what are the shares for? Could someone please explain? Does this help Firefly? If it does I would be willing to give it a shot! Thanks.
Hopefully these previous threads will shed some light.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=3285
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=3363
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=7&t=3371#33923
the fireflymovie site call
http://www.fireflymovie.com/guerilla_ideas.html
and a discussion on the merits of this idea over at the official forum
http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages?msg=12418.1
total: 2,560,000
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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50K for me
_________________________________________________________
"Now they see sky, and they remember what they are."
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50K for me.
I have requested that Nathan Fillion be added to the StarBonds list, mentioning that he was in "Saving Private Ryan" (okay, so it was a small part) and will be in the Firefly/Serenity movie. No traction yet, though.
Please request that he be added! Maybe if enough people request it, it will happen! :smile
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50K right here.
TOTAL: 2,710,000
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I bought 50k right after they went on sale. So did a bunch of people on the OB.
Jeremy
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I've got another 50k
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25000 for me.
If history is remarkably clear on one point, it's
that people never learn from history.
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Total: 2,835,000
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dunno... that's just what the site says...
Maybe that was the total when I bought...? It was back in early January.
I call her "Vera"
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Day 2 of the housekeeping.
Day 1 total: 1,474,242
29 investors (in order of post)
mrgreen, fredep, belg, dug, creeso, roylik, wife of roylik, wife of werzbowski, cartagia, duke, tomantia, wegg, lizwhiz, earththatwas, deckroid, hatehatehatefox, starhand, iamjacksusername, friend of iamjacksusername, friend of friend of iamjacksusername, anotherfireflyfan, ghola, hobbes, firelily, rijpe, saintjayne, jaysedai, scififan, dbell46 (apologies for misspelling)
24 @ 50,000
1 @ 30,000
1 @ 25,000
1 @ 40,874
1 @ 32,234
1 @ 32,650
Day 2 total: 1,360,758
Total: 2,835,000
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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Starnge were commin up with a total of 2,835,000
while hsx says that the volume is: 2,302,716
I'm fairly new to hsx but if that volume they state is the total volume of stocks, then somthing seems a bit odd here??
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I found out that volume doesn't equal total shares held, it means total shares traded in a given time period, probably the last 24 hours. Check out the explanation i got from the hsx message boards in this thread at the following message:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=4219&m=47415#47415
total: 2,835,000
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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Ah, thanx for that
(note to self: read entire topic beter next time, aaaarggg
)
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50,000 here as well, for a total of 2,885,000
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50,000 for me too
Total? Guess that would be 2,935,000.
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Day 3 of the housekeeping. Looks like things are tapering off so this will probably be the last housekeeping post.
Day 1 and 2 total: 2,835,000
2 investors (in order of post)
3of19, moonstarr (apologies for misspelling)
2 @ 50,000
Day 2 total: 100,000
Total: 2,935,000
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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What I can't figure out is this:
We own the vast majority of Firefly stock. Who owns a tiny fraction and is selling - causing our stock prices to drop?
As the stock has done nothing but go up, up, up, I figure it's some dumbass who holds stock for a few weeks, gathers the profit then sells a large block for cash to grab up something else.
It's their sale that has caused our Firefly stock to dip these past two days.
Whatever! I would like to ask them if they've ever heard of "buy it and forget it for 40 years".
"Just keep walkin, preacher man."
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I was wondering the same thing, especially after our total got closer and closer to, and then passed, the volume reported on HSX. I asked on the HSX message boards for a better definition of volume and what I got back was that volume is number of stocks traded in the last 24 hours. There's no real good way to figure out total shares of Firefly that are being held. Here's the explanation I got:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=4219&m=47415#47415
What we can say for sure is that there are about 3 million shares held by fireflyfans that are not going to be traded ever. Jaysedai said there's also a lot of people from the official board who bought stock, too. Today's volume of 1.3 million represents HSX traders who are not fireflyfans just going about their fantasy trading (gorramm them
). According to Faaborg's tracking of Firefly stock, the volume for the past week was 16.1 million and for the past month was 58.2 million. A lot of that was from the movie announcement and now people have sold off after taking a little profit. We should probably expect to see these short term profit runs every time that there is a positive news release (negative news releases concerning Serenity do not exist in my world view).
One thing we can continue to do is recommend friends to keep buying FRFLY stock and sit on it. It will cost 1.7 million to max out at the current price.
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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The reply I got after emailing the folks at HSX, asking about a Joss Whedon StarBond.
>> Variety reports that principle photography for
>> "Serenity" (FRFLY) will start in June, with Joss
>> Whedon (Buffy, Angel; Toy Story) directing. I've
>> read that TAG only comes into play for the
>> second film; but are first time directors listed
>> in StarBonds? If so, will Joss be?
>>
>> < http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=upsell_article&articleID=VR111
7901089&cs=1>
>> Variety: Whedon's "Serenity" greenlit.
>>
>> < http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=4374>
>> FFF: "Serenity" in Variety's film production
>> chart.
>>
>> < http://imdb.com/name/nm0923736/> Joss Whedon
>> filmography.
>>
>> < http://movies.hsx.com/servlet/SecurityDetail?symbol=FRFLY>
>> HSX's "Serenity" page.
>> -- IamJacksUsername
>
> Thanks for your suggestion. We do not usually
> issue StarBond for first timers this early out.
> If we do issue one for Joss Whedon, it won't be
> until closer to Serenity's release date.
> -- #Macdaddy
Get saving for thems Joss bonds.
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I just bought 20 000 Alan Tudyk bonds, and I have 12 100 Chiwetel Ejiofor and David Krumholtz bonds.
Latest totals:
0 020 000 atudy
0 012 100 cejio
0 012 100 dkrum
2 935 000 frfly
0 021 000 univx
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FTL in Firefly? < http://jack.p5.org.uk/about-fiction/ftl-firefly.en.html>
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Well lets see... me, myself, and I have...
41081
41921
46201
129203 total held in firefly. AKA BDM.
FRFLY total 3,064,203
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Thanks for reminding me about this thread. I'm updating the first lines to include all the new star bonds that have been added to Firefly. On a side note, if you look at the Universal Studio Fund and scroll down to see all the details there is only 1 share held of Firefly. And Pacinos Baby, who manages the fund, bought that share at $19.43. So if he would've maxed out on Firefly he would've shown $1,439,500 profit instead of the $28.73 profit he now has. Sad to see that the manager of the Universal Studio Fund did not think that Firefly had much of a chance to make money.
I'm holding off on buying stock in this fund until he maxes out on Firefly.
Editted to add: Saw a post on another thread by MindsEye and they own stock in the SCIFI fund. The manager of that fund has maxed out on Firefly stock and made a pretty healthy profit because of it (It's actually the fourth highest profit). So this might be a better option if you want to invest in funds as part of your Firefly investment portfolio. After Serenity is wildly successful and the second movie is in the works and all the BDMs get their star bonds, maybe someone could set up a Firefly Movie Fund 
Another side note... GrimLakin, were all those stocks for Firefly? If so, it's not too good an idea to advertise that you're circumventing HSX's rules. I doubt that they would ever read this, but still...
My stocks: ATUDY: 20 000, CEJIO: 20 000, DKRUM: 20 000
New totals:
3 064 203 - frfly
0 040 000 - atudy
0 032 100 - cejio
0 032 100 - dkrum
0 021 000 - univx
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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Bought over 5,000 in Alan Tudykjust now and another share in the BDM with my change- 30,001
3,094,204 shares in FRFLY
vince
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I invest for my mom and my sister. ;)
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I've got 50,000 shares, myself :)
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I have 15,279 shares of ATUDY and 5,000 shares of UNIVX in addition to my previously reported 50,000 shares of FRFLY. Not enough $$$ to max out on Alan's shares. :(
"I left my heart in Serenity Valley"
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SoupCatcher, you've convinced me: I sold my 10k univx. I bought 5 450 more of both cejio and dkrum.
Totals:
0 060 279+ atudy
0 037 550 cejio
0 037 550 dkrum
3 144 204 frfly
0 016 000 univx
The + is for what AlienZookeeper has above 5k, and I didn't include the bonds from the other thread.
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Yeah. I thought about taking a tally from the other thread and bringing it over here, but it was just too much like work
. I did update the first post of this thread with the new numbers. I like having this thread around and keeping it up to date but it is getting a bit long and slower to load. I'm waiting to see how much new information comes in to determine if it is worthwhile starting a new one.
Totals:
0 060 279 atudy
0 037 550 cejio
0 037 550 dkrum
3 144 204 frfly
0 016 000 univx
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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Quote:
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Totals:
0 060 279 atudy
0 037 550 cejio
0 037 550 dkrum
3 144 204 frfly
0 016 000 univx
I've finally broke down, came out of lurking and registered for this site so I could post my stock holdings!
20721 FRFLY
06402 ATUDY
01000 CEJIO
01000 DKRUM
05200 UNIVX (the fund)
05000 SCIFI (the fund)
I had to liquidate my assets in order to continue to buy FRFLY stock, but it's well worth it.
take care all - rollergal20
"There's obeying going on right under my nose!!!"
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33000 of firefly
50000 of inglorious bastards
thats all i have.
-Soul Rebel-
http://www.livejournal.com/users/standing8
updated: 7/12/04!
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Welcome rollergal20!! Glad you made it out of the lurking column.
This is an an effort to tie up loose ends due to having a number of people updating their stock portfolio numbers as well as the numbers from the thread on Alan's star bond release:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=6215
Housekeeping Version 4 (covering everything from the last housekeeping post in some semblance of order of posting...)
previous total
2 935 000 - frfly
0 000 000 - atudy
0 000 000 - cejio
0 000 000 - dkrum
0 000 000 - univx
0 000 000 - scifi
frfly / atudy / cejio / dkrum / univx / scifi - investor
000 000 / 000 800 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 - knibblet
129 203 / 001 700 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 - grimlakin
000 000 / 014 144 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 - caligari
000 000 / 020 000 / 020 000 / 020 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 - soupcatcher
000 000 / 005 000 / 005 000 / 005 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 - werzbowski
050 000 / 020 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 010 000 / 010 000 - mindseye
050 000 / 009 996 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 - lostintheverse
000 000 / 020 000 / 017 550 / 017 550 / 011 000 / 000 000 - iamjacksusername
030 001 / 005 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 - alienzookeeper
050 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 - shadesiren
000 000 / 015 279 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 005 000 / 000 000 - shiny
020 721 / 006 402 / 001 000 / 001 000 / 005 200 / 005 000 - rollergal20
033 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 / 000 000 - standing8
362 925 / 118 321 / 043 550 / 043 550 / 031 200 / 015 000 - totals
current totals:
3 297 925 - frfly
0 118 321 - atudy
0 043 550 - cejio
0 043 550 - dkrum
0 031 200 - univx
0 015 000 - scifi
I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!
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firefly: 50k as of a long time ago...
bought at: $20.12 per share
now worth: $47.84 per share
alan: 12,482 as of 7/16
bought at: $73.50 per share
now worth: $74.50 per share
laura
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Okay between myself and my lurker friend, we have
FRFLY - 75583
ATUDY - 7154
UNIVX - 200
SCIFI - 5
That should make the running totals
FRFLY - 3423508
ATUDY - 137957
UNIVX - 31400
SCIFI - 15005
When's Adam gonna get some gorram star bonds? He's made more movies with his little finger than any of the others. *grumble grumble*
You're like a trained ape; Only, without the training!
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Firefly 50k
Alan Tudyk 11K
Think that makes
FF 3,473,508
AT 148957
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50,000 BDM
9,996 AT
that makes it...
3,523,508 BDM
158,951 AT
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