In a fight between Jubal Early and The Operative... Who do you think would win?
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I'm saying Jubal. I think he's craftier and he'd cheat if he had to.
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An assassin with many kills versus a bounty hunter who brings criminals in alive? The Operative wins, Jubal Early dies.
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Yea, I'm gonna have to go with the Operative, pre-Serenity that is. Post-Serenity it'd be a much more even fight I think.
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An assassin with many kills versus a bounty hunter who brings criminals in alive? The Operative wins, Jubal Early dies.
It's reasonable to speculate that it's harder to bring someone in alive than to just kill them. I think Jubal wins every time because he's a wily thug, whereas the Operative is more a poet-warrior.
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Hmm, hard to say...
I sure would like to see it, though.
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Hard to say, while I suspect the operative is far better trained, Early is crafty and used to working alone. If he doesn't have alliance support, I think the operative could very well lose to Early.
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Originally posted by two:
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An assassin with many kills versus a bounty hunter who brings criminals in alive? The Operative wins, Jubal Early dies.
He was to bring in River alive but not necessarily Simon.

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In my mind Jubal is kind of nutty. The Operative would exploit that.
Operative wins.
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Yeah but the Operative has all that 'fall on your sword -honour in death' malarkey going on.
As Bruto (Eli Wallach) said in the Good the Bad and the Ugly:
"If you can shoot, shoot! Don't talk!"
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Jubal talks too much - but then, so does the operative...
Tuco had some sound advice there, didn't he ?
(LMAO, I never noticed before he fires the final shot gangsta-style, that's fekkin hilarious.)
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Thanks for finding that clip Fremdfirma.
...Now I want to see The Good The Bad and The Ugly! Great flick!
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I imagine they'd talk each other to death, but I give the advantage to the Operative, ultimately, if only because he'd get frustrated and annoyed and shoot.
OPERATIVE: We're making better worlds. All of them, better worlds.
JUBAL: Who?
OPERATIVE: The Alliance.
JUBAL: The lions? If you heard me roar you'd think I was one of them.
OPERATIVE: What?
JUBAL: I like the quality of things. Three dimensional things. They're heavy. Solid. Multi-dimensional.
OPERATIVE: Huh?
JUBAL: Maybe you'll find your moment. Everybody has a moment. You just need to wait to find it.
OPERATIVE: Whuh--?!?
JUBAL: Tell me, Operative, have you ever been raped?
OPERATIVE: What the what? (beat) Oh, to hell with this!!!
The Operative shoots Jubal in the neck.
JUBAL: Did I make you angry?
OPERATIVE: Do you know what your sin is?
JUBAL: Sin, sin, original sin. Interesting thing about original sin. Woman brought it on man, but only woman can make life. Does that seem right to you?
The Operative stabs Jubal.
JUBAL: Gack!
As Jubal dies, The Operative wipes his brow and looks around.
OPERATIVE: Gee, I hope I don't come off as that pompous and talk-talk-talky.
The Operative falls on his sword, just to be safe.
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LOL. That was good> *snicker*
The laughing Chrisisall
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Bwahaha! Good one.
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Nice one Gwek.
That was awesome!
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@GWEK-LOL, spot on!!
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Use Mal as the measuring stick.
Jubal beat up Mal and knocked him out quickly
The Operative had some trouble doing the same, in fact was closer to a even match.
Jubal would bitch slap the operative.
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I love it. It's like wiping your ass with silk.
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Originally posted by two:
An assassin with many kills versus a bounty hunter who brings criminals in alive? The Operative wins, Jubal Early dies.
Does that seem right to you ?
Yeah, it does.

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Originally posted by meatpuppet42:
Use Mal as the measuring stick.
Jubal beat up Mal and knocked him out quickly
The Operative had some trouble doing the same, in fact was closer to a even match.
Jubal would bitch slap the operative.
I submit that Mal is a flawed measuring stick (although this does bring up a wrinkle).
Sure, Jubal knocks Mal out quickly... but he also ambushes Mal and has a HUGE advantage.
(I'm assuming the this theoretical fight would be relatively fair, with neither side having a huge advantage... or else The Operative can just have one of the ships in his armada blow Jubal out of the sky!)
Mal is not a great measure because his strength ISN'T fighting. He actually kinda sucks at it. His strength is in fighting back and/or taking a beating.
By stunning Mal, Jubal doesn't fight him at his "best" (as the Operative does, twice).
If Jubal can take out The Operative quickly, he wins. If he can't, though, I still think the Operative has a big advantage.
Jubal might, as you say, bitch slap the Operative. But then he'd start talking and give the Operative opening after opening to exploit. :) Heck, if Simon had the stones, Jubal would be dead.
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The operative hands down.
Jubal doesn't think enough, and he appears to be mildly insane. On the other hand, the Operative is a great strategist and comes very close to actually defeating Mal.
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^JUBAL: Tell me, Operative, have you ever been raped?^
This just knocked mine brain out 
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I agree with the Opperative winning, Jubal has too many flaws in his gameplan, he seems to leave himself open often as said above. I loved Gwek's rendition of how things would go down. They do both talk a lot and they both like abstractions. Jubal's appetites may also get in the way when faced with a raiser honed warrior like the Opperative, any distraction would be a disadvantage.
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Originally posted by MrHide:
^JUBAL: Tell me, Operative, have you ever been raped?^
Operative “ No, when I was in prison, I did the pitching.”
Early “So you were it prison?”
Operative “ Did a stretch for not delivering the Tams. Had some postal worker as my g/f ”
Early “So how’d you get out?”
Operative “ I got to be one with the prison. I became the prison.”
Early “ That’s some nonsenseable crap, ain’t nobody can do that!”
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