Michele Bachman: Ol' Crazy Eyes Makes the Cover of Newsweek

POSTED BY: Kwicko
UPDATED: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:33
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KWICKO

Monday, August 8, 2011 11:10 PM (P)

Yikes!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, August 9, 2011 3:24 AM (P)

KWICKO

Tuesday, August 9, 2011 3:38 AM (P)

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:35 AM (P)

Just shows the bias of the media, and lengths to which the Left will go to , in order to vilify anyone they feel is a threat to their dear and fluffy Obama.

Here's a legitimate cover shot of the congresswoman -

How petty and unprofessional for Newsweek to use what very likely was only a test shot, as the cover , and then to add the juvenile headline.

Oh, am I a professional photographer ? Nope. But that's what some who are have said...

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First, the lighting is harsh and uneven, more like a driver's license photo than a professional portrait. Her hair casts a shadow over her forehead, indicating poor positioning of the flash on the photographer's right. Her expression is unnatural, something good portrait photographers try to avoid not only because it looks bad, but also because it doesn't give the viewer any insight into the subject. Really good portrait photography reveals the subject's personality, which is why the best portrait photographers spend a lot of time making their subjects feel relaxed and comforatble. You can't capture someone's personality if she's nervous, unready, uncomfortable or distracted. Bachmann appears all of those in that photo. On top of that, she's awkwardly posed, as if she happened to be walking by and suddenly looked up. It looks like a test shot, not a final portrait. ( I found out after writing this, that Bachmann's campaign said it was a shot from the lighting test. ) Forget a national news magazine; that photo wouldn't make the cut in some smaller, regional publications based on its technical flaws alone. So how did it make the cover of Newsweek?

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110809/LOCALVOICES03/110809881

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:33 PM (P)

Even the gals from the N.O.W. side against Newsweek and its shoddy treatment of Michelle Bachmann...

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Monday, the National Organization for Women (NOW) spoke out against Newsweek’s most recent cover, which features an extreme close-up of Michele Bachmann and the title “The Queen of Rage.”

“It’s sexist,” NOW president Terry O’Neill told TheDC. “Casting her in that expression and then adding ‘The Queen of Rage’ I think [it is]. Gloria Steinem has a very simple test: If this were done to a man or would it ever be done to a man – has it ever been done to a man? Surely this has never been done to a man.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/08/the-national-organization-for-women-
defends-bachmann-against-newsweek/#ixzz1UeF5a9G3

And where was Newsweek and the rest of the MSM on THIS psycho Queen's wincing screech ??

Hypocrisy much ?

KWICKO

Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:49 PM (P)

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If this were done to a man or would it ever be done to a man – has it ever been done to a man? Surely this has never been done to a man.”

Never say never.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:51 PM (P)

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Jon Stewart takes Newsweek to task over Bachmann cover

After briefing the London riots on Tuesday night's "Daily Show," Jon Stewart did something slightly out of the ordinary: defended Tea Party Rep. Michele Bachmann.

By now most people have seen Newsweek's latest cover featuring Bachmann with the headline "Queen Of Rage." But it's not the story that's making headlines -- it's the way Bachmann looks in the photo: wide-eyed, a bit startled and a bit startling.

Stewart concluded that it couldn't possibly be "an accidentally s***ty" picture of Bachmann and showed several photos of her looking very photogenic to back it up. Of course, he still worked in some amazing send-ups, including placing the cover side by side with the poster of Steve Carell from "The 40-Year-Old Virgin" (the similarities are uncanny!).

Newsweek Editor Tina Brown has defended the cover, saying it aimed to capture how Bachmann is "galvanizing" voters in Iowa, but Stewart insists that the photo intended to make her look crazy. Watch the full clip to hear Stewart's solution for a Bachmann Newsweek cover that would actually do the trick -- without even using a photo.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/10/jon-stewart-defends-michele-b
achmann-newsweek_n_923124.html

So, N.O.W. and John Stewart both are defending Bachmann, and taking Newsweek to task for their obvious unprofessionalism at shamelessly ridiculing Bachmann, and then trying to justify it.

M52NICKERSON

Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:58 PM (P)

Stewart also said you don't have to make her look crazy, you can figure that out by listening to what she says.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:14 PM (P)

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Stewart also said you don't have to make her look crazy, you can figure that out by listening to what she says.

Which makes the point all that more significant. He's no fan of Bachmann, which is plain to see. But even so, Newsweek went way over board in its treatment of of her.

THAT is the point.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

NIKI2

Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:25 PM (P)

Hee, hee, hee...you vilify Stewart gleefully 90% of the time, but hold him up as proof when he says something you like. I see it's all over google, and the title on many is "Jon Stewart Defends Michelle Bachmann", which is hysterical if you see the entire bit. It's amazingly funny that some see that as him "defending" her:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-august-9-2011/glazed-and-confuse
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You of course left out all the rest of what he said, which was hysterical, and what he said about her BEING crazy, the fact that he didn't "defend" her whatsoever, and the finish, where he said "You want a photo that makes her look a little off? Make it out of her words" and offered just that:

(It's a screen capture, Raptor, only way I could isolate it, in case you're clicking on the "run" button madly and wondering why nothing's happening.)

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M52NICKERSON

Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:54 PM (P)

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Stewart also said you don't have to make her look crazy, you can figure that out by listening to what she says.

Which makes the point all that more significant. He's no fan of Bachmann, which is plain to see. But even so, Newsweek went way over board in its treatment of of her.

THAT is the point.

....or people are not getting the joke!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

NIKI2

Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:59 PM (P)

Apparently he's not alone, given how many times I read "Jon Stewart Defends Bachman" on Google. But then, extremists on either side have no sense of humor, as we all know.

I keep wondering why righties don't come up with their own satirical show like Daily Show or Colbert Report. Maybe NONE of them have a sense of humor...the only thing I ever see them laughing about are put-downs of the other side or individuals. Strange mentality, and think just how much FUN they miss! I pity them.

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CONCHOBAR71

Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:06 PM (P)

You mean Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck aren't satirical?

Then again, I don't really take any of the pundits seriously, especially the liberal pundits. I can remember when Janeane Garafolo was considered mainstream thinking by the left.

It scared me so bad I had to watch a few episodes of Hannity and Colmes and choke down some Michael Savage to feel that all was equal in the world of political absurdity.

Ever wonder why both sides make each election sound like it's the end of the world and each side make a mockery of the other candidates?

Hell people made fun of the peanut farmer and the forgetful governor who loved jellybeans. Makes me yearn for a big warm glass of Billy Beer.

"I have always been drawn to the phrase used in a French Proverb, 'Praise the God of All, Drink the wine and let the world be the world'" - Charles Brandon, Tudors

AURAPTOR

Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:09 PM (P)

Bachmann not crazy.

Newsweek absolutely wrong and out of control batshit nutty in their treatment of a female politician.

Pretty much case closed here.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

KWICKO

Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:19 PM (P)

Yes, how very unfair of them to publish a picture that she posed for and for which she would have had to sign a release.

She is known for having that wild-eyed crazy look, and she is known for not being able to look at a camera while speaking (see her response to President Obama's State of the Union Speech for an example).

So to call it "unfair" of Newsweek to show the traits she's most known for is pure idiocy.

The only thing that makes Bachmann look batshit crazy is the fact that she's batshit crazy.

Everybody who isn't in bed with the tea-baggers knows this. Rappy doesn't, but he also thinks she adopted 23 kids, so we can all see how little he knows about... well, ANYTHING, really.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=49176

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

KWICKO

Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:24 PM (P)

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Originally posted by Niki2:

Hee, hee, hee...you vilify Stewart gleefully 90% of the time, but hold him up as proof when he says something you like. I see it's all over google, and the title on many is "Jon Stewart Defends Michelle Bachmann", which is hysterical if you see the entire bit. It's amazingly funny that some see that as him "defending" her:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-august-9-2011/glazed-and-confuse
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Don't forget that Rappy's also citing NOW as his "proof" that Bachmann's being mistreated. Y'know, because he respects their opinion so much...

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

CUDA77

Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:28 PM (P)

Here Niki, here's a bigger and better version of the picture that the Daily Show folks posted on their Facebook page.

Socialist and unashamed about it.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:31 PM (P)

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yes, how very unfair of them to publish a picture that she posed for and for which she would have had to sign a release.

She didn't

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She is known for having that wild-eyed crazy look, and she is known for not being able to look at a camera while speaking (see her response to President Obama's State of the Union Speech for an example).

She isn't. Just ridiculous, hate filled far Left rhetoric , intent on distorting her image.

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So to call it "unfair" of Newsweek to show the traits she's most known for is pure idiocy.

Actually, it isn't. As proven by multiple examples

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The only thing that makes Bachmann look batshit crazy is the fact that she's batshit crazy.

She isn't, even a little

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Everybody who isn't in bed with the tea-baggers knows this. Rappy doesn't, but he also thinks she adopted 23 kids, so we can all see how little he knows about... well, ANYTHING, really.

She's fostered far more kids than you ever will, so that alone makes her a better person than most.

Bachmann > Kwickie, 7 days a week, at least.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

M52NICKERSON

Friday, August 12, 2011 12:23 AM (P)

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She's fostered far more kids than you ever will, so that alone makes her a better person than most./b]

Okay, she is a good crazy person!

...of course I don't know if putting kids in a house with that level of batshite insanity is a good thing.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

AURAPTOR

Friday, August 12, 2011 12:39 AM (P)

Again, distorting the point, entirely.

You, as a extreme far Left liberal zealot, refuse to accept the fact that Newsweek intentionally distorted their coverage of her, for purely political reasons.

Even the far Left wing N.O.W. and John Stewart can honestly come to terms on that point, yet you can't.

Curious.

( plus, the fact that you continue to use that parody of Gasden's flag, simply shows that you hate America )

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:01 AM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yes, how very unfair of them to publish a picture that she posed for and for which she would have had to sign a release.[/B ]
She didn't

If she didn't sign a release and they published it, she can sue the living SH*T out of them and WIN without trying. Next week, it'll be Newsweek magazine, owned and published by Michelle Bachman.

So don't be an asshole, you ASSHOLE!

KPO

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:03 AM (P)

Jon Stewart is spot on, as usual.

It's not personal. It's just war.

AURAPTOR

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:08 AM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yes, how very unfair of them to publish a picture that she posed for and for which she would have had to sign a release.[/B ]
She didn't

If she didn't sign a release and they published it, she can sue the living SH*T out of them and WIN without trying. Next week, it'll be Newsweek magazine, owned and published by Michelle Bachman.

So don't be an asshole, you ASSHOLE!

The assholes are at Newsweek. Not just my opinion, but John Stewart and N.O.W. agree w/ me.

ASSHOLE

NIKI2

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:08 AM (P)

Concho, I deliberately didn't make a crack about Rush and Glenn; I kinda figured somene else would before long, tho'. And I know of NO liberal who has ever considered Garafolo any more than a nutcase...slightly battier than Michael Moore, but not by much! Yeah, we've got our batshits too, but they're not politicians in positions of power or striving to be, that's the difference to me.

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NIKI2

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:09 AM (P)

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Bachmann not crazy.

Newsweek absolutely wrong

Beer good...

(couldn't resist)

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NIKI2

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:11 AM (P)

Thanx Cuda. I looked all OVER for it, but didn't see it on their website anywhere. I should have just asked you and saved myself all that time! ;o)

Newold: CAN she sue if she didn't sign a release? I thought as a public figure she couldn't sue over photographs she didn't approve, as long as they were real. Either that, or every tabloid across the planet can be sued for all the ugly photos the paparazzi gives them...

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AURAPTOR

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:15 AM (P)

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Originally posted by Niki2:
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Bachmann not crazy.

Newsweek absolutely wrong

Beer good...

(couldn't resist)

First truth you've posted in many a moon.

Good beer = better !

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

NIKI2

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:15 AM (P)

I don't think anyone is denying that Newsweek chose that picture for a reason, who's disputed that? What I've disputed is your saying he was "defending" her, which he certainly wasn't! Can you grasp the concept of being able to chide someone about doing something wrong to someone you personally don't like? Try it on for size, 'cuz that's what happened. And you could leave all the silly rhetoric and adjectives home if you felt like it, because they mean nothing.

On the other hand, I have to refute Mike's remark about her not looking at the camera. As much fun as it was, it was a simple mistake of not knowing which camera she was supposed to be looking at. Which Jon Stewart also had an absolute BALL with, and alluded to again in the segment you've been ranting about. That was a faux pas that she's still living down, but it was, in my opinion, an honest mistake and in no way indicates her intelligence or sanity.

ETA: Neither Jon Stewart nor NOW have said anything about Newsweek being an "asshole", so that one's so far out in left field even YOU can't catch it.

Oh, and I forgot:

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KWICKO

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:27 AM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

The assholes are at Newsweek. Not just my opinion, but John Stewart and N.O.W. agree w/ me.

And with all the video cameras around Jon Stewart and the N.O.W., you of course have video to back up the claim that they called Newsweek an "asshole", right?

I mean, you're real big on providing "proof" of things, aren't you?

Care to back up that claim that it's not just your opinion that they're assholes?

KWICKO

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:31 AM (P)

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Originally posted by Niki2:

On the other hand, I have to refute Mike's remark about her not looking at the camera. As much fun as it was, it was a simple mistake of not knowing which camera she was supposed to be looking at. Which Jon Stewart also had an absolute BALL with, and alluded to again in the segment you've been ranting about. That was a faux pas that she's still living down, but it was, in my opinion, an honest mistake and in no way indicates her intelligence or sanity.

What I said is that it's one of the two things she's known for - not looking at the camera, and having a wild-eyed crazy look.

You saying she's still trying to live it down rather proves what I was saying: that it's one of the things she's known for!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

KWICKO

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:44 AM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yes, how very unfair of them to publish a picture that she posed for and for which she would have had to sign a release.

She didn't

Actually, she did.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024619/Tina-Brown-Michele-Bac
hmann-crazy-eyes-Newsweek-cover-good-Sarah-Palins.html

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She is known for having that wild-eyed crazy look, and she is known for not being able to look at a camera while speaking (see her response to President Obama's State of the Union Speech for an example).

She isn't. Just ridiculous, hate filled far Left rhetoric , intent on distorting her image.

It's not "distorting her image"; it's reporting what her image is.

She's certainly not known for her legislative record, because she doesn't have one to speak of. She has sponsored no bills which have made it out of committee, she's brought no important legislation to the floor. What WOULD we know her for? What are her accomplishments as a Representative? What's her record?

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So to call it "unfair" of Newsweek to show the traits she's most known for is pure idiocy.

Actually, it isn't. As proven by multiple examples

You've provided no such examples.

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Everybody who isn't in bed with the tea-baggers knows this. Rappy doesn't, but he also thinks she adopted 23 kids, so we can all see how little he knows about... well, ANYTHING, really.

She's fostered far more kids than you ever will, so that alone makes her a better person than most.

So everyone who fosters children gets your vote?

And do you have ANY evidence that I've never fostered 23 or 47 kids, or any, for that matter? I've only ever said here that I never *HAD* any kids. As in, *fathered* any. What evidence do you have that I've never fostered children in my home?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

AURAPTOR

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:48 AM (P)

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

The assholes are at Newsweek. Not just my opinion, but John Stewart and N.O.W. agree w/ me.

And with all the video cameras around Jon Stewart and the N.O.W., you of course have video to back up the claim that they called Newsweek an "asshole", right?

I mean, you're real big on providing "proof" of things, aren't you?

Care to back up that claim that it's not just your opinion that they're assholes?

My words, their view. Why are we still arguing about this ? Oh, of course, I know why. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

M52NICKERSON

Friday, August 12, 2011 1:55 AM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

My words, their view. Why are we still arguing about this ? Oh, of course, I know why. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

You still don't get that the Stewart was setting up a joke. Of the fact that Bachman is the women that fails at history every time she opens her mouth. She is shown that things she says are wrong and continues to say them. That makes her crazy or a blatant liar.

Oh and she is also the person that started to freak out because a female reported followed her in a bathroom after she refused to answer questions.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

M52NICKERSON

Friday, August 12, 2011 2:00 AM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Again, distorting the point, entirely.

You, as a extreme far Left liberal zealot, refuse to accept the fact that Newsweek intentionally distorted their coverage of her, for purely political reasons.

Even the far Left wing N.O.W. and John Stewart can honestly come to terms on that point, yet you can't.

Curious.

( plus, the fact that you continue to use that parody of Gasden's flag, simply shows that you hate America )

Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let men label you as they may. ~Mark Twain

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

AURAPTOR

Friday, August 12, 2011 2:06 AM (P)

Your conviction is anti- American. That much is clear. Also, you can't even accept that those on the Left are siding with Bachmann on this matter.

How petty of you.

M52NICKERSON

Friday, August 12, 2011 2:09 AM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Your conviction is anti- American. That much is clear. Also, you can't even accept that those on the Left are siding with Bachmann on this matter.

Expressing ones opinions, no matter what they are, is the most American thing a person can do.

...and good for those on the left, unlike you I don't need a herd around me.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

KWICKO

Friday, August 12, 2011 2:19 AM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Your conviction is anti- American. That much is clear. Also, you can't even accept that those on the Left are siding with Bachmann on this matter.

How petty of you.

This is hilarious, coming from someone from Georgia, a state which up until very recently had on its flag the battle flag of the Confederacy, the most TRULY anti-American group in history!

KWICKO

Friday, August 12, 2011 2:21 AM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

The assholes are at Newsweek. Not just my opinion, but John Stewart and N.O.W. agree w/ me.

And with all the video cameras around Jon Stewart and the N.O.W., you of course have video to back up the claim that they called Newsweek an "asshole", right?

I mean, you're real big on providing "proof" of things, aren't you?

Care to back up that claim that it's not just your opinion that they're assholes?

My words, their view. Why are we still arguing about this ? Oh, of course, I know why. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

What "TRUTH"? The TRUTH that nobody said what you said they said?

Yeah, I can handle that. I was the one who pointed it out to you, after all.

AURAPTOR

Friday, August 12, 2011 11:57 AM (P)

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Your conviction is anti- American. That much is clear. Also, you can't even accept that those on the Left are siding with Bachmann on this matter.

Expressing ones opinions, no matter what they are, is the most American thing a person can do.

...and good for those on the left, unlike you I don't need a herd around me.

Your opinion isn't the issue here. It's the attempt by a news magazine to falsely paint a candidate in a negative light. They've gone to such lengths to distort her image as to post a test shot photo as their cover , with extremely an misleading caption.

Everyone can see this, and even those on the far Left ( at least those who are honest ) can come out and claim what Newsweek did was yellow journalism, and intentionally deceptive.

Why can't you just be civil and mature about this, admit that Newsweek went over board in what they did, and just leave it at that ?

Really not that much of an issue.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

AURAPTOR

Friday, August 12, 2011 12:00 PM (P)

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Your conviction is anti- American. That much is clear. Also, you can't even accept that those on the Left are siding with Bachmann on this matter.

How petty of you.

This is hilarious, coming from someone from Georgia, a state which up until very recently had on its flag the battle flag of the Confederacy, the most TRULY anti-American group in history!

Enjoying the red herring ? Sure seems like it.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

M52NICKERSON

Friday, August 12, 2011 12:26 PM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Your conviction is anti- American. That much is clear. Also, you can't even accept that those on the Left are siding with Bachmann on this matter.

Expressing ones opinions, no matter what they are, is the most American thing a person can do.

...and good for those on the left, unlike you I don't need a herd around me.

Your opinion isn't the issue here. It's the attempt by a news magazine to falsely paint a candidate in a negative light. They've gone to such lengths to distort her image as to post a test shot photo as their cover , with extremely an misleading caption.

Everyone can see this, and even those on the far Left ( at least those who are honest ) can come out and claim what Newsweek did was yellow journalism, and intentionally deceptive.

Why can't you just be civil and mature about this, admit that Newsweek went over board in what they did, and just leave it at that ?

Really not that much of an issue.

They did not paint her in a negative light, just the true light of what she is. Had they done the something to say, Romney or Ron Paul I would take issue. I may not agree with their stances on the issues but they are intelligent enough to hold an intellectual conversation. Also they don't flaunt their religious convictions. Bachmann can only repeat talking points and she does a poor job at that.

Any person, right or left, that is so obviously no suited for public office should be ridiculed, along with the people who support them.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

PIZMOBEACH

Friday, August 12, 2011 2:11 PM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just shows the bias of the media, and lengths to which the Left will go to , in order to vilify anyone they feel is a threat to their dear and fluffy Obama.

Or... a more fair and balanced review of the cover might be...Newsweek has been losing market share to Time for the last 6 months. Time's circulation has gone up 16% while Newsweek has gone down 5% in the first 6 months of 2011, even with new leadership at Newsweek. As any print publication will know, in this new digital age, if you aren't growing you are dying, hence Newsweek's trend to more and more controversial (desperate) covers, including the age-enhanced, digitally manipulated image of Princess Diana (only the face that's sold more newsweeklies than any other in history).
So it's not politics, it's not bad photography, it's just business. This is a win for Newsweek buzz-wise, even if they suffer in the PR dept.

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NIKI2

Friday, August 12, 2011 3:12 PM (P)

Ahhh, I get it Mike; it's not that looking at the wrong camera was a sign of stupidity, it's something that so much hay was made of that it follows her around, yes?

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Brown referred to an earlier Newsweek cover, which featured Palin looking fresh and glamorous, saying that while Palin enjoyed the attention, giving the photographer many poses to work with, Bachmann turned up offering little time or effort.

Ah, so she DID pose for it of her own free will. That takes them off the hook PARTIALLY if she didn't give them enough poses.

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'Sarah Palin had a lot of time for the photo shoot. She loved to pose for the pictures. She's very compelling before a camera and all the pictures of her, to be honest, were really great. I think Michele Bachmann is a very strong looking woman but it's about the time you want to give a photographer.

'If you want to give the photographer two seconds and a snap it's hard to get a big range of photographs but with Sarah she spent a whole afternoon with him.'

That makes perfect sense. Palin knows how to play to the crowd and how to sell herself; that would be a priority with her, while Bachmann seems to run more "on the fly" and hasn't had the practice of posing and publicity (yet).

Responding to our local troll is silly; try to bear in mind, he says these things DELIBERATELY to goad you guys. Works every time, don't it? You/I explain things to him once, he still says the same things; you go on explaining the same thing over and over, he continues to make his same original statement, OR doubles down on it. Now he's saying they didn't just "defend" Bachmann, they are "siding with her"...don't you see it? He really plays you guys for fools over and over and over, and you bite every time! I may bite ONCE, mostly for the sake of the truth, but beyond that, it's the old "fool me once..." (not the Bush version, the REAL one ;o) )

Pizmo, excellent point! Given that, it explains a lot and makes more sense than it being a political ploy, thank you. The basic point is that Newsweek did a bad cover, whether for political reasons, because Bachmann didn't give their photog enough time, or they're garnering attention. Raptor's right in that it's not really much of an issue; it got made an issue, Mike used it to score a political point, Raptor couldn't do other than respond and expanded it to people "defending" and "siding with" Bachmann, and it BECAME an issue here (as it has in so many other political conversations, obviously). Beyond the feuding and firestorm, it's an amusing diversion and Newsweek deserved to be "tch, tch"ed, but that's all, to me. And Stewart did a GREAT bit on it. What's amusing to me is that the entire bit started with him talking about how much the right enjoys complaining about how they're treated, and the picture of her made of words. Score one, Jon!

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

CONCHOBAR71

Friday, August 12, 2011 3:19 PM (P)

Exactamundo!!! Who reads Newsweek anyways?! LOL!!

Though I hate attack ads and propagandic spin by the media (Mostly Left leaning - except for Fox Spews), it is pretty hilarious that she actually does look like that. I mean most of our politicians look like some version of Ogra or the Skeksis from the Dark Crystal LOL.

Jayne: "Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..."

CONCHOBAR71

Friday, August 12, 2011 3:35 PM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Your conviction is anti- American. That much is clear. Also, you can't even accept that those on the Left are siding with Bachmann on this matter.

Expressing ones opinions, no matter what they are, is the most American thing a person can do.

...and good for those on the left, unlike you I don't need a herd around me.

Your opinion isn't the issue here. It's the attempt by a news magazine to falsely paint a candidate in a negative light. They've gone to such lengths to distort her image as to post a test shot photo as their cover , with extremely an misleading caption.

Everyone can see this, and even those on the far Left ( at least those who are honest ) can come out and claim what Newsweek did was yellow journalism, and intentionally deceptive.

Why can't you just be civil and mature about this, admit that Newsweek went over board in what they did, and just leave it at that ?

Really not that much of an issue.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

My take on this whole discussion in a nutshell is that it really isn't about Newsweek mocking Bachmann, it's about magazines and news agencies once again spinning someones appearance to push forward an agenda. She's a big girl and I haven't read or heard a peep out of her, so I'm not sure this is a "woman bashing" issue, nor do I think she has thin skin. It's another political assassination attempt by the media puppet-masters. I just wish journalists would take their credibility back and move back to reporting news and away from sensationalizing or spinning news. Let the candidates crash and burn on their own merits.

Then again, they (the journalists and editors) are all bought and paid for by the Murdochs and the Soros'.

Just my 2 cents for what it's worth LOL!!!

Jayne: "Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..."

NIKI2

Friday, August 12, 2011 4:19 PM (P)

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I just wish journalists would take their credibility back and move back to reporting news and away from sensationalizing or spinning news. Let the candidates crash and burn on their own merits.

Huzzah...and I would like journalists to become JOURNALISTS once again, not produce "infotainment".

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

GEEZER

Friday, August 12, 2011 7:34 PM (P)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Enjoying the red herring ? Sure seems like it.

Might as well get used to it, Rap. You'll be seeing it right through 2012.

The Democrats have had very little success to tout since their big 2008 win, and no major initiatives enacted. so all they can do is go to full attack mode.

Health Care reform ended up a gimme for the insurance companies. Recovery only worked if you're on the boards of GM, Chrysler, or a big bank. We're involved in more wars than in 2008, and killing more folks in Pakistan with drones. Gitmo is still open. Unemployment's still high. Our AAA rating is gone bye-bye. Not a great record of accomplishment to run on next fall.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

NIKI2

Friday, August 12, 2011 7:49 PM (P)

But you're neither left nor right, isn't that what you say? So of course the Republicans had nothing to do with healthcare not being "Medicare for all" or a public option, weren't the "Party of Hell No", had nothing to do with STOPPING any and all Democratic initiatives, filibustering everything under the sun, or creating the climate that the ratings services said CAUSED them to downgrade us, right? Of course; it's all the Dems fault--no, wait, it's all OBAMA's fault--Republicans had nothing to do with it. Yeah, sure.

The saddest thing of all is Dems most likely won't act like the right has, whenever we get another Republican President, and the Repubs will get to take credit for everything they accomplish. Works for them! You betcha.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

CONCHOBAR71

Friday, August 12, 2011 7:57 PM (P)

Someday, instead of reading that one party had zero success (which ultimately means no party had success), we'll read that our country had success during a given period.

The old saying, "It takes 2 to tango" rings true each and every day. Sadly ebcause each party feels it is necessary to entrench themselves in their minority leadership dogma (in minority, I mean that our representatives regardless of party don't listen to the whole of their constituency).

Every presidency we seem the same old tripe, "This party is evil incarnate..NO that party is evil incarnate". I think they all are. Eventually "We the People" will reach a point where there is no more tripe allowed, then we'll hear a pin drop LOL, that is as the politicians stand on a hill over looking Washington and the capitals of each state as their buildings burn.

OR

They will learn that there is something to be gained by legitimate compromise, rather then teh smoke and mirrors of the Pork compromises we have seen over the last 20 years or so.

Jayne: "Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..."

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, August 12, 2011 9:43 PM (P)

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They did not paint her in a negative light, just the true light of what she is.

Bingo.
She's a fuckin lunatic, and they represented her accurately - which is, it seems to be, most folks problem with it, no one wants to admit more than half our so-called representatives, and those who wish to be, actually belong in a rubber room somewhere instead of the halls of power.

And I think press and publications who cower from facing and acknowledging that fact, who don't have the guts to call them out on it, have failed in their civic duty as a free press.

Although let's be honest here, it's far, far more one party that throws a hissy when their true colors shine through the mask and folks see em for the neo-feudal-fascist bastards that they are, cause the liberal wackjobs on the other end all but revel in that classification.

So mostly, it's about DISHONESTY, Perfidy, which is kinda universal, but the abject, overblown and melodramatic denials of the GOP are about as convincing as those of any caught red handed crook, and all the more offensive cause they PRETEND to a moral standard damn few of them even make a pretense of holding.

So this ain't about MIS-representation, this is outrage over ACCURATE representation, a publication refusing to shovel the agreed-upon measure of bullshit, and IMHO refreshing for that reason - our so-called leaders and would be leaders NEED to be mocked, sneered at, and shamed for their arrogance, their incompetence, their insanity, and it's about damn time someone did.

-Frem
ETA: I don't completely disagree Concho, but I have a different opinion on that subject.

KWICKO

Friday, August 12, 2011 11:11 PM (P)

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Originally posted by Niki2:
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I just wish journalists would take their credibility back and move back to reporting news and away from sensationalizing or spinning news. Let the candidates crash and burn on their own merits.
Huzzah...and I would like journalists to become JOURNALISTS once again, not produce "infotainment".

Would part of that "taking their credibility back" involve NOT using posed photos of candidates, but just catching them candidly and realistically? Wouldn't that be more credible?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

GEEZER

Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:33 PM (P)

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Originally posted by Niki2:
But you're neither left nor right, isn't that what you say? So of course the Republicans had nothing to do with healthcare not being "Medicare for all" or a public option,

Of course they had something to do with it, but not that much. In 2009 the Democrats were close to having filibuster-proof majorities in both the House and Senate, and could have found a couple of centerist Republicans to go along with them. They should have been able to put through most anything they wanted. They squabbled internally and squandered their chance.

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Of course; it's all the Dems fault--no, wait, it's all OBAMA's fault--Republicans had nothing to do with it. Yeah, sure.

A lot of Democrats, and a lot of Independents, see it as the Party's fault that in the 111th Congress, with large majorities in both houses, the Democrats couldn't get themselves together enough to accomplish much in the face of the Republican minority's opposition. A lot of these folks didn't vote in 2010.

These folks also see Pres. Obama's handling of the deby crisis as weak. Here's an op-ed from the Washington Post.

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Why the center-left is fed up with Obama

By Matt Miller, Published: August 10

Here’s the thing. I know Tea Party Republicans were behind the debt-ceiling standoff that wreaked needless damage on confidence in the United States. I wrote weeks ago of Standard & Poor’s outrageous nerve in threatening a downgrade when America’s ability to pay its debts can’t possibly be in doubt. In short, I know who the real villains are at this volatile moment.

So why am I so mad at Barack Obama?

I know I’m not alone. In conversations with folks across the center-left in recent days, everyone’s basically had it with the president. I’ve had policy frustrations before: Obama’s never aimed high enough on school reform and he’s failed miserably to advance a real jobs agenda, to name just two. I’ve said repeatedly that we need a third party to shake things up. But at the same time a part of me has always cut the president some slack — after all, look at the mess the man walked into! Yet somehow the debt-ceiling fiasco and the downgrade, punctuated by these horrific jobs numbers and stock market gyrations, has made something in me (and, I suspect, millions of others) snap.

It’s the sound of confidence in Obama’s leadership breaking.

Yes, other forces may be “responsible” for the bad news. But in the end a president has the most power to shape the debate. How could Obama have let the entirely foreseeable debt-ceiling standoff turn into a hostage drama? Why didn’t he have the spine to say “send me a clean debt limit increase or I’ll raise it myself and see you in court”? How could he leave us in a position where every future debt-limit hike now becomes an occasion for blackmail? And where Chinese officials can blithely say that “the U.S. government has to come to terms with the painful fact that the good old days when it could just borrow its way out of messes of its own making are finally gone”?

Events keep screaming that the president is weak, weak, weak. That this can happen so soon after his gutsy call to take down Osama Bin Laden is striking. First the president gets rolled on the debt limit. Then S&P lowers the boom. Then China piles on. Then the White House rushes out word that Tim Geithner is staying put. Can anyone explain exactly who that news was meant to reassure? It can’t be that we’ll all now breathe easier because Geithner-crafted policy has been such a smashing success. So is this move a function of Obama’s fear of not being able to get a new Treasury nominee confirmed — or his inability to attract someone of stature for what could be an unpleasant one-year stint? Either way, it smells weak.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-im-mad-at-obama/2011/08/10/
gIQAhEPi6I_story.html
"Keep the Shiny side up"