Worst Sci-Fi Ever.

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SARDONICA

Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:11 AM

It's a tie between The Fifth Element and Independence Day.

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SARDONICA

Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:16 AM

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Originally posted by BlueSunWorshipper:
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Originally posted by Jadehand:
Anyone ever see Darkstar? *shudders*
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Now, now...Dark Star was a college student film in the early 1970's, PRE-Star Wars, and made by John Carpenter (Escape From New York, Halloween, They Live) and Dan O'Bannon (Alien). In fact, the basic plot of Dark Star was reworked by O'Bannon into a movie he called "Star Beast." The studio didn't like the title, though, so they renamed it. You might have seen it, a little-known flick that might have slipped past you...called 'Alien.' Everybody's gotta start somewhere, right?

Of course, you might also have seen a little independent film that came out in the late 1970's called "Within the Woods" that was the prototype for a movie called "Book of the Dead." The studio didn't like THAT title either, so it got renamed. Anybody ever seen "The Evil Dead"? Made by a guy named Sam Raimi...of Spider-Man fame. Hey, like I said...everybody's gotta start somewhere.

Don't forget, Joss' first "Buffy" prototype was simply horrible...and the movie made from his original script was terrible. If somebody had judged him based on a first work, then there would be no 'Firefly.' Judge not, lest ye be judged, or kicked in the head by somebody. Your choice.

- T

Hey now!

Dark Star is my favorite movie of ALL TIME! I am being 100% serious--I've watched this countless times, and cannot express my love for this film strongly enough!

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ARAWAEN

Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:21 AM

I think we can safely add AvP and pretty much every else Paul W.S. Anderson has done.

Arawaen

P.S. Sadly AvP might still be better than Alien Resurrection.

Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.

QUICKSAND

Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:29 PM

For most of his movies I'll agree, but I still maintain "Resident Evil" was LIGHT YEARS better than anything else he's done... whenever they play "Soldier" on the Sci-Fi channel, I just start laughing uncontrollably.

(Qs)

RAISTLYNNE

Sunday, August 15, 2004 11:15 PM

Babylon 5: First season sucked ass.

Star Hunter: Every episode was shitorrific.

Space Island One: (Watched it for the cute ladies only.)

Voyager: All eps not pertaining to Borg/Jeri Ryan sucked big time ass.

STNG: All eps not pertaining to Borg were s--t.

Andromeda: All eps after season two were awful.

Star Wars 1 and 2 were bad. Should've killed Jar-Jar-Stinks. Guy playing Darth in second movie was badly miscast.

Alien Resurrection: What the Hell happened with this one?

Matrix, third movie was crap.

Enterprise: How could I have forgotten this turd!!

Lost in Space: B-A-D!!!

The Fifth Element: I recently heard this was supposed to be a comedy...can anyone confirm this? Anyway, too late to get my money back on this one.

I gotta stop there before I jump off a bridge!!

MRSEMBASSY

Monday, August 16, 2004 2:08 AM

Well, so far I can't see that anyone has mentioned my personal worst movie-going experience (that I actually paid for, anyway):

STARSHIP INVASIONS, starring Robert Vaughn. (What can I say, we were all "Man From U.N.C.L.E." fans.)

OMG, what a piece of go se. I think they used tin pie plates for the flying saucers, and you could see the strings in every shot. And this was the same year "Star Wars" came out!

I also have to put in a vote for the original movie version of "Dune," which was one of the most disjointed, poorly-directed messes of all time. Although I have to say we really enjoyed turning the opening-night theatre experience into our own private MST3K party, answering back to the screen whenever the dialogue was too unbearable. By the end of the film we had the whole audience doing it. We laughed so hard on the way home we almost cried.

And yeah, "Event Horizon" blows bigtime.

-Mrs. Embassy

WITLESSCHUM

Monday, August 16, 2004 2:47 AM

I'll vote "Armageddon" or maybe the movie of "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" Unless "From Hell" counts as sci-fi. Oh, well, they're subsidizing Alan Moore.

I think the actual worst is a movie called "Tammy and the T-Rex" starring Denise Richards. Or "Night of the Lepus" with Deforrest Kelley. But these and "Battlefield Earth," I mean, they're trash and they're going to be trash. You know this. "BE" especially, I mean, I doubted L. Ron went off to be the messiah cause he was a good writer.

I'll also vote for a "Star Trek" novel that ended with the stars forming themselves into a face and talking a to Picard and Worf. It also contained a creepy double entendre about Worf's medal collection and the size thereof, and it had Worf and a female Klingon badass rip off "the we have to take off 800 weapons before we can have sex" scene from "In the Line of Fire" Surrealistically bad. Of course, I haven't read Newt Gingrich's alternate history novel. So judgements can always be remade.

I've never really watched many T.V. sci-fi shows outside of TNG and "Firefly" Hm, how about "Homeboys from Outer Space?"

Dan

HAPLO721

Monday, August 16, 2004 2:52 AM

Just FYI, The Starlost was not really Harlan Ellison's creation. All he did was suggest the idea and the studio took it from there. If you read some of Ellison's books, there are stories about his life in them, some of which deal with The Starlost. He basically says that he was sorry it had his name attached to it.

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PEACE

Monday, August 16, 2004 3:27 AM

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Originally posted by MrsEmbassy:
Well, so far I can't see that anyone has mentioned my personal worst movie-going experience (that I actually paid for, anyway):

STARSHIP INVASIONS, starring Robert Vaughn. (What can I say, we were all "Man From U.N.C.L.E." fans.)

OMG, what a piece of go se. I think they used tin pie plates for the flying saucers, and you could see the strings in every shot. And this was the same year "Star Wars" came out!

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-Mrs. Embassy

OMG, I'd forgotten about that wretched piece of crap! I actually sat through it in an Army theater in Germany in 1977 because I had nothing better to do that evening! Geez, what a no-budget turkey that was! Of course, it had Christopher Lee in addition to Robert Vaughn in it, which only proves that even name stars can sometimes make tragic mistakes.

Let's see, I may be repeating some titles that have been mentioned already, but here's some that stand out for me:

Logan's Run-- notable mostly for Jenny Agutter's semi-nudity (yippee!).

The pilot of Buck Rogers as a theatrical release (we got the weirdest crap at Army theaters in the '70's)-- I walked out.

Armageddon-- ANYTHING by Michael Bay stinks like warp-nacelle bilge oil, but this takes the cake.

Space Mutiny-- another low-budget godawfulness, but a scream if you can get a hold of the MST3K rip on it.

I have to stop now, becuase over 47 years I've seen a lot of bad sci-fi and the memories are making me queasy....

Oh, bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up!

HIPEOPLE

Monday, August 16, 2004 4:18 AM

This is hard, I could go on and on about the crap I've seen lol!

OK worst Sci-fi show ever...Andromeda, I have watched a few episodes, but to be honest even the pilot was confusing, and the acting is horrible, It always reminded me somehow of Star Trak, which is another horrible, boring sci-fi show (maybe not the original but most of the spin-offs have sucked)

I watched maybe 5 minutes of Buck Rangers, it was just so stupid

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MRSEMBASSY

Monday, August 16, 2004 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Haplo721:
Just FYI, The Starlost was not really Harlan Ellison's creation. All he did was suggest the idea and the studio took it from there. If you read some of Ellison's books, there are stories about his life in them, some of which deal with The Starlost.

And just guess which studio took the idea and ruined it???

C'mon, one guess ...

Yup. Fox. HAHAHAHAHA!

Ben Bova's name also appeared on this piece of drek because he signed up to be a science advisor and then couldn't get them to take his name off it. Later he wrote a novel fictionalizing his & Harlan's experience with this nightmare of a show, called "The Starcrossed." It's really hilarious, especially if you've ever seen the show!

-Mrs. Embassy

ANNIK

Monday, August 16, 2004 11:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MrsEmbassy:
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Originally posted by Haplo721:
Just FYI, The Starlost was not really Harlan Ellison's creation. All he did was suggest the idea and the studio took it from there. If you read some of Ellison's books, there are stories about his life in them, some of which deal with The Starlost.

And just guess which studio took the idea and ruined it???

C'mon, one guess ...

Yup. Fox. HAHAHAHAHA!

Ben Bova's name also appeared on this piece of drek because he signed up to be a science advisor and then couldn't get them to take his name off it. Later he wrote a novel fictionalizing his & Harlan's experience with this nightmare of a show, called "The Starcrossed." It's really hilarious, especially if you've ever seen the show!

-Mrs. Embassy

I heard Ben Bova refer to Starlost in an interview once. He said something like "And people keep blaming me for 'Starlost'."

Cheers,
Annik
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LINDYCAT

Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:22 AM

Moon 44 was the worst SciFi movie I ever watched all the way through. Though the sheer hilarity of the stupid crap they pulled in the movie... lets see...

An acutal quote of the dialog.

"They've attacked moon 47, moon 46, moon 45, and where do you think they will attack next...? MOON 44."

They had good guys flying around a canyon in suped up helicopters on moon 44, but they needed guys back at base to guide the pilots around the trench (one per 'copter).

The aliens decided to send robot drones to attack them. But instead of just sending robot ships, they actually built a robot to fly the ship.

There is more, but it is so painful my mind won't release it from the space it is walled up in.

Yeah, Moon 44 real damn bad movie.

QUICKSAND

Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:20 PM

Yeah, but isn't Chekhov in it?

DECKROID

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:06 AM

"Yeah, but isn't Chekhov in it?"

Nope. Chekhov was in MoonTrap.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097911/

Also a bad movie.

Actual fact about MoonTrap:

They spent so much of their budget on the cast and special effects that they didnt have any money left over for music. They gave the Composer job to a Special Sound Effects guy named Joseph LoDuca, who went on to do very well for himself in TV shows. They didnt pay him for both jobs. The payment for composing music for this great piece of cinematic work? His name in the Credits.

Moon 44 starred Micheal Pare of "Streets of Fire" fame. Yet another stinky movie.

I call her "Vera"

QUICKSAND

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:26 AM

Good memory. I'm humbled, good sir.

I knew there was a reason "Moon 44" was familiar, though, so had to go look it up... and yep, there it was: Directed by Roland Emmerich. Yes, THAT Roland Emmerich. Independence Day. The Patriot. The Day After Tomorrow. And... lest we forget.... Universal Soldier.

You'd think we would have seen this coming.

........ I haven't seen either "Moon" movie, but I did see "Moontrap" also had Bruce Campbell in it. This should push the movie up in Cool Factor, shouldn't it? Merely having the Chin gives any movie street cred... I would think.

PLACIDITY

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 1:18 PM

Well here goes.... (these are ones I have seen that I would like the time back from - I havent seen a lot of what other's have hated - I trust I would have to agree with most)

Farscape
Darkman (anything after Liam Neeson sucked)
Mission to Mars (only movie i ever WALKED OUT ON)
Lost in Space
Andromeda
Max Headroom
Roswell
Alien Nation

TV Series I miss watching -
Firefly
John Doe
Space Above and Beyond
Pretender
Highlander
Seven Days

Please feel free to agree disagree etc

I really do not give a sh!t cause its only my opinion, and everyone is entitled to one

fox
firefly playa-haters

MRSKBORG

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:33 PM

Some of the above I like - Farscape and SG1, some I know I really dislike - Highlander 2 and the others, but the single worst SciFi I have ever seen ( now I'm not sure it was ever aired in the States) was on the good old Beeb. It was a Gerry Anderson production and was called "Space Precinct" I'm quivering at the thought of it. It was truly awful and had some bloke in it from dallas or dynasty or some damn thing can't remember what his name was though. No story, wooden acting, well more like plastic acting, terrible prosthetics, terrible effects. In fact it was just terrible............

I also remember Crime Traveller - see, that makes me shudder too.......

RIJPE

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:33 PM

Sometimes it's tough to rate something "the worst ever," because some shows are so bad they are incredibly funny, while others aren't quite bad enough to be funny. There are other movies or TV shows that were good at the time, but seem dated now.

I would save "worst ever" for stuff that was so bad it was painful to watch, but not bad in the right way to be hilarious.

Now, I have only watched one episode of Andromeda, but it was absolutely so bad, without being funny, that I actually felt physical pain.

The TV show Buck Rogers was probably bad (haven't seen it in 20 years) but I loved it at the time. A few episodes of ST:NG were so terrible I wanted to shake the actors or writers really, really hard (but there were some really good episodes in later seasons).

Anyone seen the Disney movie Black Hole? That was terrible.

Several of the movies that folks have mentioned were ones I liked, even though they had occasional flaws. I really liked The Fifth Element, despite the corny ending. I thought AI had some really powerful moments (and Jude Law was great), despite the corny ending. I thought that the "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" movie was funny, despite not being impressed with the actress that played Buffy. I wasn't particularly impressed with much of Matrix 2 & 3, but they were watchable. I felt a bit let down with Episode I and II of Star Wars because I had such high expectations, but I still enjoyed them.

I should learn my lesson from Episode I and II and not have stellar expectations for Serenity. But I can't help it! The teaser was so awesome, and I have faith in Joss, and that Joss will have creative license to do the movie right.

CYBERSNARK

Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:57 PM

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Originally posted by mrskborg:
the single worst SciFi I have ever seen ( now I'm not sure it was ever aired in the States) was on the good old Beeb. It was a Gerry Anderson production and was called "Space Precinct"

It aired in Canada for a while.

I though it was Canadian, actually. Was it a BBC production, or did they just air it? I'd hate to think the one I saw was a remake.

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COSMICFUGITIVE

Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:11 AM

* Does 'La Femme Nikita' count? It was boring. The acting was really bad.
* 'Young Hercules' is another one. It was overkill on the Xena/Hercules franchise. Not even Kevin Smith could save it.
*Andromeda is go se. Nuff said.
* What about Robocop the tv series? Why did they do that?
* First Wave. What the hell was that about?
* Cleopatra 2525 was pretty bad too.
* The Others.
* The Tribe. (It should be renamed 'The Tripe'...)
* Mutant X was a rip of The X-Men.
* Does anyone remember Time Trax? It dealt with a cop that was sent back in time to arrest criminals from the future? Bad, bad, bad....

(I've seen a lot of bad sci-fi...)

FILMS:

* Species.
* The Postman.

THORNIR

Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:33 PM

Well, someone added one of my choices, "Soldier", the other one I have to list here is the 1980's film version of Dune with Sting. That was just horrible!

Oh, and who can forget Kevin Costner's WaterWorld? - or Costner's film version of The Postman?

As for TV series, I have to list Earth: Final COnflict. My parents loved this show and I tried, I really tried, because I thought it was a great concept, but it was like dragging fingernail across a chalkboard watching it (and yet I kept going back to try again).

NEUTRINOLAD

Sunday, September 26, 2004 6:21 AM

Lexx wasnt all that bad

Yes it was.

surely i'm not the only one to think it

Yes you are.

"They're gay, I get it!
It's not even funny." - Bart Simpson

Well, someone did mention the Simpsons.

QUICKSAND

Sunday, September 26, 2004 6:35 AM

Someone liked 'Lexx'? But... but Lexx is so... so... CANADIAN.

And we know what THAT means, don't we....?

SNIPER

Friday, October 1, 2004 5:26 PM

I'd have to say Andromeda or Enterprise.

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, October 1, 2004 5:46 PM

Star Wars started out as a very good films, they were great movies back in the 80s

but Lucas went loony and started re-releasing and re-writing the stuff in the worst possible way.

Even now he continues to destroy the classic

http://galaxy.imndesigns.com/sw/ROTJ.JPG

Lucas on a personal mission to make Star War the biggest load of rubbish and worst scifi for all time for us 2 remember. How many more times will he milk the cash from the film and continue destoryin' the classic

Star Wars thanks to Lucas has become one of the worst sci fi films

DANFAN

Sunday, October 3, 2004 3:51 AM

So many stinker memories in this thread! So as not to repeat with "me too's", here's a couple that haven't been mentioned yet...

TV Series:

Land of the Giants

Movies:

The Black Hole
Naked Lunch

I walked out of the theater after Naked Lunch in near vertigo, wondering if it was utter bilge or seriously brilliant... beyond my brain's capacity to process it. After some more thought, "bilge" won out.

In my darker moments, I still wonder if I've mischaracterized it. Please don't repeat that to anyone...

FAHQ

Sunday, October 3, 2004 8:22 AM

Seeing as how the Sci-Fi channel has managed to prove that some things DO cling to the bowl no matter how many times you flush, it would have to be Andromeda-Yet again.

In the war for my mind sometimes I'm winning and sometimes I'm winning...........

ROBINHOOD

Sunday, October 3, 2004 12:05 PM

At last...someone has mentioned Buck Rogers in the 25th Century. I remember seeing the original pilot on the cinema. I liked the Buster Crab originals from the 1930s much better. Plus Gil Gerard seemed to have spent most of his time in the canteen, specifically, at the pie section.
Erin Gray was nice though. I dont ever remember Jamie Lee Curtis being it?
And as for the fecking robot...BIGGI BIGGI BIGGI BIGGI BIGGI. I really wanted to kill that little B------D.
Oh...and the Battlestar Galactica spin off. They eventually find earth (present day) and 2 plebs from the ship explore on 2 150cc mopeds with plastic bits stuck on them. Oh they could fly too. It was scarily like CHiPs in space. The only worse thing they could have done was to put Eric Estrada in it.

Yep..........................that went well!

MAUGWAI

Sunday, October 3, 2004 3:05 PM

I've got to come out in support of Andromeda. I like that it's confusing. Just like Farscape, it makes me want to watch all the episodes just to find out what the hell is going on. I started watching it last year, and have slowly begun to understand the bizarre world the crew lives in. And the characters have real issues they have to fight through.

Event Horizon however, is complete and total crap.

And I don't think anybody's mentioned the original Thunderbirds, which is so annoying in its cheapness. Puppets on strings? At least Jim Henson used big socks with facial expressions.

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BLUESUNWORSHIPPER

Sunday, October 3, 2004 3:14 PM

Sardonica,

I noted your affection for Dark Star, and I agree: the movie was ahead of it's time, very funny, and well-made on the cheap. I learned a very important lesson from that movie: don't piss off the beach ball, and don't jump into a vat of liquid nitrogen...it's very dangerous.

:)

- T

ROBINHOOD

Sunday, October 3, 2004 6:09 PM

WHAT.......THUNDERBIRDS CRAP...CHEAPNESS. Think before typing. Thunderbirds was created in 1965....thats like....... 35 years before Farscape and Jim Hensons sock puppets arrived. DOH!!!!!!! Special effects with models for big screen SciFi movies were little better than these at the time and Thunderbirds was made for TV remember. Strings to hold up the models were all they had. No computer graphics touch ups then. The partial solution was to paint the strings the same colour as the backgrounds.
As for the puppets, so what, it was a kids show. Did latex even exist in 1965?
One more point....Andromeda. Does anyone actually watch that. Kevin Sorbo is possibly the most colourless actor (if you can call him an actor) in the history of moving pictures. They could throw a chair in front of the camera instead of him...and nobody would notice the difference.

Yep..........................that went well!

SHINYLETO

Sunday, October 3, 2004 6:26 PM

Thunderbirds!? I used to watch that on TV, and I thought it was supposed to be a joke. It is, admittedly, pretty funny.

Event Horizon: Blegh.

Enterprise: I watched a few episodes and gave up, because it was awful.

The new Dune books: They're getting progressively worse with each book. I read the first one and I thought "All right, this is decent. Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson can't match Frank Herbert, but I'll read the next installment." So I read the next two, and they didn't sit well with me. They just didn't fit in with the universe. Then they put out the second trilogy, and I gave up. I read nothing but the summaries/covers, and I tell you they have trashed the Dune universe. Now, I'm not saying I know what Frank Herbert was thinking when he wrote about Dune's past, but I'm 85% sure it wasn't remotely like what's in those books. It's a damn shame.

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VECTREXER

Sunday, October 3, 2004 9:17 PM

As much as I liked the book,,, Solaris is just up there as my personal vote for the worst SFM ever. I mean really!! I just am bored to the point of vomiting or falling asleep when watching any version so far. You can ask my wife about my general love of foreign films. But for Solaris, The answer is just don't!!

For a recent TV series I would have to vote the later epsiodes of LEXX as just crapp!! Early LEXX, sexy and fairly cool. Later LEXX needs someone else than FOTB/FOOS writers, direction, FX, and well, just name it. Late LEXX=CRAP! CRAP! CRAP!. Okay, now that I have vented, there were a couple of cool moments, very few.

As for the previous comment about the Starlost, I did think that show was served with a big slice of cheese, but really no more so than Dr. Who of the same era. You have to get past the FX people. I do have to admit I did chuckle quite a bit at some of the supposed weapons they had.

Chris

GAVIDA

Monday, October 4, 2004 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by BlueSunWorshipper:
Sardonica,

I learned a very important lesson from that movie: don't piss off the beach ball, and don't jump into a vat of liquid nitrogen...it's very dangerous.

:)

- T

I learned something else as well:
If you wear a space suit make sure you know how the communication works

Keep flying,
Gavida

MAUGWAI

Monday, October 4, 2004 12:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by robinhood:
WHAT.......THUNDERBIRDS CRAP...CHEAPNESS. Think before typing. Thunderbirds was created in 1965....thats like....... 35 years before Farscape and Jim Hensons sock puppets arrived. DOH!!!!!!! Special effects with models for big screen SciFi movies were little better than these at the time and Thunderbirds was made for TV remember. Strings to hold up the models were all they had. No computer graphics touch ups then. The partial solution was to paint the strings the same colour as the backgrounds.
As for the puppets, so what, it was a kids show. Did latex even exist in 1965?
One more point....Andromeda. Does anyone actually watch that.

You're right. I apologize. I should think before I type. I didn't mean to say "cheapness." I meant to say "CHEESINESS." Just because something is old doesn't mean it's off the hook for being crappy. And they did have special effects in those days. Remember the original Star Trek?

And as for Andromeda, it's won several awards and been number one in it's target audience several times over the past four years. Sci-fi wouldn't have added it to the line-up if it didn't have an audience. I'm surprised that so many people here hate it so much. The characters on that show are not good or evil. There are so many gray areas and internal conflicts, and our hero is often wrong. I stand by my support.

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CYBERSNARK

Monday, October 4, 2004 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by maugwai:
The characters on that show are not good or evil. There are so many gray areas and internal conflicts, and our hero is often wrong. I stand by my support.

You must be talking about Early Andromeda.

After about S3, the bad guys have been consistently written at the level of Power Rangers bad guys, and Dylan (a.k.a. Captain Super-Incredible) is never wrong. Ever. Even when all logic and rationality is against him.

The big internal conflict that they're playing up now is Beka vs. Dylan, which played out back in the first season.

They used to have Dylan vs Tyr, then Tyr got fired. They used to have big moral questions, but now they have Superhero Dylan versus the Bad Guys(tm). They used to have a Harper/Rommie/Dylan romantic triangle, but now Harper's the token comedic little horn-dog, Rommie's the ice-queen, and Dylan's boinking every female guest star they get.

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ROBINHOOD

Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:43 PM

I find it strangely ironic that the wooden puppets in Thunderbirds have more character than any of the actors in Andromeda. Like the Craig David lookalike. He's got the same comedy beard too. I have a sideboard that acts better than him. With a completely different cast it might have been worth me watching, but alas, Kevin Sorbo was the 1st and probably final nail in it's coffin for me.
Some people may find TBs crappy, cheesy, whatever, but it's been translated into dozens of different languages around the world. So, TBs must have its audience too, even 30 odd years on.

Yep..........................that went well!

CHANNAIN

Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:03 PM

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Originally posted by Quicksand:
What is the WORST Sci-Fi you've had the displeasure of witnessing, in its entirety? Entirety meaning, you can't vote for Star Trek: Voyager if you've only seen 10 minutes of one episode (and how could you stomach any more?). Specific film, movie, or book examples, please.

Highlander 2, hands down the WORST thing I've ever seen. My brother and I actually sat through the whole thing, then spent the drive home tearing it apart.

I LOVE Michael Ironside, loved him in V. Totally not his fault that he got cast as a Kurgan wannabe. I mean COME ON! There is only one Kurgan, and there should only be one Kurgan.

Highlander 2 is a prime example of the film producers trying to recreate success. They even thought resurrecting Sean Connery's character, Ramirez, would help. HA!

Biggest mistake they made was trying to explain where Immortals come from. The storyline works much better when WE DON'T KNOW. Like not seeing the creepy crawly in a horror flick - same principal.

Don't get me started on 3 and 4. Although, with 4 I thought that Adrian Paul would help things a bit. He would have too, if they could have left Connor out of the mix and didn't treat the fans like morons...oh, right, I wasn't going to start. Sorry, my bad

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JOE

Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:47 PM

Did you know that Joss Whedon wrote the screenoplay for Alien Ressurrection?

The "government bought out by Wal-Mart" line wa a dead giveaway. I forget the actual line word for word.

The worst I've seen would have to be The Core.

Battlefield Earth is classed as a religious film, since it was made by a Scientoligist, for Scientoligists and is just as fucked up as a religion.

Lexx was pretty hokey.

Crime Traveler - was that the one with the ex-Eastenders star and the girl from series 7 and 8 of Red Dwarf? It wasn't bad for Saturday night TV fare.

John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars has got to up there with the worst of all time. So, so poor.

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 8:03 PM

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Originally posted by TheGreyJedi:
An MST3K number called Space Mutiny. It includes Battlestar Galactica rip-offs! And it's terrible! A lot!

"And these three remain: Faith, Hope, and Love. And the greatest of these Love."

i actually have this episode on VCD. it is hilarious! from the bad 80s stuff (hairdos, hula hoops and music) to the middle age woman supposedly playing the "hot chick" role. i swear she was in her 40s to the crew member who gets killed and then comes back in a later scene! outrageous! who writes these things? some of the best one liners in all MST3K, though:

"is this the man?"
"why no sir, YOU da man."

slays me every time. or how about:

"christmas comes to santa this year"

killer.

EST120

Thursday, October 14, 2004 8:07 PM

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Originally posted by CapnRahn:
but as a wise man once said - "Opinions vary" - heh, now where is that line from? I know, do you?!

road house. do not ask me how i know.

BROWNCOATTROOPER

Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:55 PM

How about "Killer Clowns from Outer Space"
To kill em shoot their noses off!

And how about the old saturday afternoon venue"Jason of Star Command"

ARK 2 with jetpacks and monkeys?
(Not terrifying space monkeys tho...just wee ones in suits who follow around the cast thru an apopcalyptic aftermath)

STARLOST

A item I think the directors of the show should answer for with their lives:
Why...Oh Why God.....Whenever the cast encoutered high tech enemies did they leave the gorram frickkin lasers behind and keep on with the damn crossbow!!!

And how about land of the lost?
Good Ol' marshall, Will and Holly, on their routine expedition....meet the greatest earthquake ever known and fall into the land of the lost...complete with the Sleestak!

TOMANTA

Friday, October 15, 2004 2:12 AM

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Originally posted by Joe:

Battlefield Earth is classed as a religious film, since it was made by a Scientoligist, for Scientoligists and is just as fucked up as a religion.

I'd disagree. While the film WAS unquestionably a pile of filth, I saw no connection with scientilogy in either the film OR the book (which I quite enjoyed.. but not enough to touch anything ELSE written by Hubbard with a ten foot pole).

Now... I'm surprised no one has mentioned Wing Commander, whose only redeeming quality was that there was an Episode 1 trailer attached to it in the theater.

"FOX! Where the shit hits the fans." - Tim Minear

CANTTAKESKY

Friday, October 15, 2004 4:53 AM

I'm surprised Enterprise hasn't been mentioned more often. Star Trek sunk with Voyager, but it hit bottom with Enterprise.

Worst sci-fi movie: My vote's on Highlander 2.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

EARLY

Friday, October 15, 2004 12:16 PM

OK...Star Trek. All Star Trek (except Wrath of Khan). Talk about boring crap. Every episode of everyone of their 10 billion different series is the same show. And I hate the happy pretty little future it portrays. No one goes hungry cause you just mash a button and poof. Also that reamake of BSG...I mean come on the Cylons are hot chicks?

ROBINHOOD

Saturday, October 16, 2004 12:15 PM

I just remembered a series in the mid 90s....War of the Worlds. Surposedly, carrying on from were the 1953 movie left off, yeah right!
Jared Martin, and Adrian Paul (yes the same Adrian Paul from the Highlander series) were in it. Some others too.
It seemed to go on for ever, did it ever end? Maybe its still being made somewhere for the Acme sci-fi channel?

Yep..........................that went well!

SCAPEGRACE

Monday, November 1, 2004 5:19 PM

Hi from a newbie.

With respect to two actors I usually enjoy (Angela Bassett and James Spader), I'd like to add "Supernova" to the list.

SABACEANBABE

Thursday, November 4, 2004 9:25 PM

Let me just weigh in here with Time Tunnel. I think it was in the mid-60s and oh. my. god. is it ever bad.

Space:1999 was pretty bad, too. And then there's Galactica 1980...

Nebari mental cleansing doesn't get the tough stains out.

In the immortal words of Socrates, "I drank what?"

BLACKMARKETBEAGLES

Friday, November 5, 2004 9:06 PM

I have to nominate Jason X as one of the worst sci-fi movies out there.

"It's called a Laance, Helllooo!"

SHINY

Friday, November 5, 2004 9:49 PM

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Originally posted by Vectrexer:
As much as I liked the book,,, Solaris is just up there as my personal vote for the worst SFM ever.

I agree with that; it was tough staying awake even while fast-forwarding through most of it.

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

ZELDA

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:20 PM

From the MST3K front I'd like to nominate 'Manos: The Hands of Fate.' Even watching it with funny commentary it was still, as my husband described it, "like watching a train wreck at a frame a day."

I was also unbelievably disappointed at Jet Li's 'The One.' I would really love for him to succeed in the US, but it's not gonna happen when he keeps churning out crap like that.

QUICKSAND

Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:38 AM

Good call, but I'm not sure if I'd describe "Manos" as Sci-Fi. It had more of a Lifetime, movie-of-the-week vibe to it, don't you agree?

Also, as for "The One," any movie that features the bad guy pick up not one, but TWO, motorcycles at once, and smash a dude with them like they were flyswatters... well, c'mon, that's FUNNY!!

DARKARCHON

Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:59 AM

I have to agree with Highlander 2 being way up there on the 'worst' list. I LOVED Highlander, so naturally I went to see #2...it was pain incarnate. I left in a state of confusion and felt like my mind had been curbstomped by a pack of rabbid rioters. I left the theater..wiser. I never did see the 'other' ones and refuse to agknowledge their existence.

As for TV...let me end the debate here and now on the Andromeda thing. IT SUCKS!!! It is like Hercules in space...and yes Sorbo is the worst actor(?) on tv. How that drivel survives when so much goodness(i.e. Firefly) went the way of the dodo I'll never know.

-Dark/Blue

P.S. SG-1 also baffles me...bad...no sir, don't like it.

"See how I'm not hitting him? I think I've grown."

DYAIRVATREE

Sunday, November 21, 2004 9:41 PM

The worst Sci-fi ever is anything and I do mean ANYTHING that stars Wil Smith. Why do people keep going to his films. Wild, Wild West has to be the most embarrassing anti-intellectual cheese fest since Night of the Comet. Or an even better question why do I keep watching Wil Smith films? Well I'm done never again will I subject myself to such horror. I swear he's trying to be in a film worse than Night of the Comet and one day he will succeed and I'm not going to be there to witness it. I don't care if his next film has all the Firefly actors in it I'm still not paying money for any more of his crap.

I found a review of I Robot that pretty much somes up my view of the film. Warning this link is not for the easily offened.If you hated this film as much as me you might dig this link. I think this link is funny as hell. Issac Asimov is rolling in his grave.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=i_robot

I rather liked Event Horrizon I thought it was a rather good horror film. That film scared the crap out of me. Cherry 2000 just saw that last week end it's awfull but it's my kind of awfull. So cheesey as to be sort of fun.

Also any film made by the Sci-fi channel is by definition the worst Sci-fi ever.Why do they keep making that crap? Who watches it why?

Lets see what else Lexx the show when it was a mini-series from Showtime called Tales From a Parallel Universe it was awsome then when it moved to Sci-Fi channel and became Lexx Sci-fi channel just wrecked it. But if you haven't checked out the original version I highly recommend it.

Earth Finial conflict deserves a mention as does Sliders a show that in concept that could have been the greatest show ever but always sucked. I kept tuning in hoping it would get better but it never ever did. Sliders was always trying to teach me some heavy handed politically correct message. Like rascism is bad or something. Like I as a viewer was supposed to after watching an episode say someting like, thanks Sliders writters before I watched your truelly deep show I thought rascism was cool but now I know it's in fact bad. In fact your beating me to death with your politically correct message completly made me not notice just how bad you guys writing really is thanks a million Sliders writers!"

And lets not forget Small Wonder and Sea Quest DSV.

CRAZYDOG7

Friday, November 26, 2004 5:28 PM

There is so much in the way of bad scif

Battlefield Earth
Highland 2,3 and Endgame
Episode 1. The list goes on and yet more and more bad scifi keeps getting written and Serenity keeps getting pushed back. Damn it!!

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, September 4, 2022 10:37 PM

I have to give the nod to Netflix, HBO, Amazon for producing so much Woke islamic transexual SJW Bullshit these days

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, October 5, 2023 3:51 AM

Low Budget and Hated

Some say its fiction others say its a Documentary but I don't know if it is good or bad

The Fourth Kind is a 2009 psychological horror thriller scifi? film featuring a cast of Milla Jovovich, Elias Koteas, Corey Johnson, Will Patton, Charlotte Milchard, Mia Mckenna-Bruce, Yulian Vergov, and Osunsanmi. The title is derived from the expansion of J. Allen Hynek's classification of close encounters with aliens, in which the fourth kind denotes alien abductions.

Olatunde Osunsanmi

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, June 22, 2024 7:21 PM

Going back to this thread I don't know about worst scifi / fantasy because even B-movies can be respect for effort in their low budget products

Dr Who has become one of the worst, it used to be a cult hit and ranked among the best. Reality tv has always been bad from Ghost Hunters to 'Stars on Mars. there have been Marvel and DC Shows dead on arrival Batwoman TV series or 'Inhumans', tv shows that fade and crash because the actors or producer are seen as creepy, Crisis in Six Scenes. Unnecessary movie remakes Firestarter, Minority Report series, The Stepford Wives, Flatliners, Planet of the Apes etc
There are shows that go on too long or are just Over Rated, 'Lost' is probably when I just stopped watching tv, Black Summer, Blindspot, Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones...Walking Dead possibly killed the zombie genre

Star Wars and star Trek have been doing tv and movies way too long, J. J. Abrams is highly over rated as a film maker, almost no new concept or fun ideas, nothing fresh anymore.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, June 23, 2024 8:17 AM

I think Breaking Bad was just about the perfect length for a great show that rarely stumbled along the way and had what I consider the Perfect Ending. Though it ranks at the top, it wasn't my all time favorite show, but I consider the ending the best ending in any show I've ever seen. The only other TV show ending I think is close to it was Chuck, and though I have a fondness for that show, I wouldn't put it in my top 10. Endings are important though, and those two did it right.

Maybe you mean that Breaking Bad was too long because of the movie about Jessie and the Better Call Saul series after the fact? I never did finish Better Call Saul, but not because I thought it was bad. It certainly was no Breaking Bad, but I stopped watching pretty much all TV shows when I quit drinking, and this was one of the ones I intend to get back to at some point.

LOST only annoys me because of how much they fumbled at the end there. If you view good TV as a journey rather than a destination, LOST had that in spades. But the ending and really the final season in general just made me think I wasted a lot of time there. It's really unfortunate when you found out they never had a plan and were winging it all along.

The Walking Dead was amazing in the beginning. But they dragged it out way too long and everyone lost interest. It should have been 5 seasons long like Breaking Bad with no spinoffs. You couldn't pay me to finish watching it or sit through a minute of any one of the spinoff series. (They did make all those stupid spin-offs, didn't they? I'd heard about them, but I don't follow it at all anymore).

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JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, January 17, 2025 6:17 PM

With so much garbage online for free are we also in the worst scifi era?

Bad
Old shows like The Starlost, Galactica 1980, British had their old Fireball XL5 Thunderbirds TV Series, My Favorite Martian, Gilligans Island, Mr Ed...tv was slapstick when it did not know what to do, they mixed the magic with supernatural and theatrical and science all the time and some Dr Who was just 'BAD' Supertrain, Gemini Man, The Shazam/Isis Hour, Me and the Space Chimp? sitcom

Good?
Old Flash Gordon, a lot of stuff still had art or charm, The Jetsons, Outer Limits, TwilightZone, from Japan you get get a foreign VHS of Johnny Sokko and His Flying Robot, from the Canadians The Starlost Counterstrike is a strange one, Star Trek The Animated Series is a respected spin off, Planet of the Apes is still watchable tv, Buck Rogers could it work as a remake? Knight Rider they tried to remake but failed, Blake's 7, Adam West Batman, Wonder Woman and The Incredible Hulk kind of still work as classics, there was arrival of Japan toons Battle of the Planets, the French Japanese Ulysse 31, Star Blazers...maybe some what aimed at adults also like Scooby Doo.

There is an improvement on acting with stuff like Hill St Blues and Twin Peaks, shows become long arcs and less episodic the Dr Who shows get better.
Respected Actors with Awards they Arrive on Tv sets.
You could call this mid 80s to mid late 2000s period, where a show would still sell on VHS or DVD markets.

Bad
modernist the DC worlds of Swamp Thing, Robocop tv, the Prisoner remake, Neo Yokio a Japan American style anime is just bad, Painkiller Jane, Mutant X a soap that could not use the Xmen brand, Total Recall 2070, Jupiter Moon...a lot of cheesy Japan tv and Japanese tv never recovers from this time.
Mercy Point it just doesn't work
Mutant X was bad but almost all tv was bad before HBO and other started improving tv, Alias TV series bad, Lost TV series Jeffrey Lieber and J. J. Abrams goes on forever and is just stupid.
the Star Treks and Stargates always had a level of 'scifi' quality, they were seen as peak scifi tv but get worse over time, the Scifi soap opera dies.

Pass?
Tek-War maybe, Kingdom Hospital, Space Precinct,
Andromeda...its ok-ish got worse and then stuff like Firefly and Farscape and other shows came along
then everyone watched 'Lost' which was dumb.
Tv had changed you moved from big tv channels I Love Lucy, The Lone Ranger, to people collecting VHS and DVD to the death of VHS and DVD into downloads and 'streaming'

90s to 2000s
then it improves, there is a period where cgi and fx on set gets cheaper and people invest more cash production. Sales also arrive into DVD box sets and shows have other markets...you could call this the Game of Throne or Rome HBO era, in the post improved tv era Boardwalk Empire, Rome, Westworld Hulu's Fargo, Pachinko, South Korea tv, Dark Matter 2015 spaceship and Dark Matter 2024 black cube alt dimensions, Star Wars shows, Disney shows, DC WB shows, For All Mankind, overseas tv etc
while quality improves the market also gets saturated
Streaming also slowly kills tv
The Walking Dead TV series for example is not a terrible show it just never died, would not go away and outlived its welcome
the DVD is dead or dying, the VHS sales are long dead...everything is online
a show like Marvels Agents of Shield just keeps going, not that its the greatest show nor is it the worst of all time it is ok but Disney/Marvel wanted their long lasting tv series.
Some like superhero tv some like dark shows like The Tourist others like Resident Alien 2021–present, The Expanse was the last TV Series that tried it but the scifi Spaceship Epic Opera era of tv is over.
Stuff is aimed at kids 'The Owl House' for example, shows come and go.
A cool and funny tv show can come out like 'Final Space an American adult animated space opera comedy drama television series but nobody will watch.
Tv is over because everyone has everything online, Dark Matter 2024 should be praised but show

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, January 30, 2025 9:26 PM

THE ACOLYTE Was Canceled Despite Being Disney+'s Second Biggest TV Show In 2024 - Here's Why That Happened

https://sffgazette.com/sci_fi/star-wars/the-acolyte-was-canceled-despi
te-being-disneys-second-biggest-tv-show-in-2024---heres-why-that-happened-a8638

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, January 30, 2025 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
THE ACOLYTE Was Canceled Despite Being Disney+'s Second Biggest TV Show In 2024 - Here's Why That Happened

https://sffgazette.com/sci_fi/star-wars/the-acolyte-was-canceled-despi
te-being-disneys-second-biggest-tv-show-in-2024---heres-why-that-happened-a8638

Did you see the actual numbers and comparisons to other shows that came out this year and previous years on Disney+?

They use this stupid "minutes watched" counter that gives stupid large numbers that sound awesome, so nobody really questions if the show was successful or not when somebody comes out and reports that it was successful by stating a show got "X Billion Minutes Watched".

But if you take the amount of billions of minutes of Acolyte watched and divide it by the amount of minutes in-total among all the episodes of the show, it only comes out to just over 8 million views... worldwide. On a show that cost something in the area of $250 Million to make.

Now I know that those figures aren't exact, but they're in the ballpark. If you divide those, you get $31.25 that Disney spent per person who viewed The Acolyte from beginning to end. That's $0.73 less than 2 months worth of membership dues pre-tax, which Disney would require from 8 million people just to pay for the production budget of this show, not even figuring in any marketing they did.

What nobody is telling you when you see that Acolyte was being cancelled despite being Disney+'s 2nd most popular show of 2025 is that Disney+'s numbers are horrible across the board and the fact that Acolyte was near the top of their 2024 watch list with the pathetic viewcount it got just speaks to how shit Disney+ is.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, January 31, 2025 12:03 AM

Drinker explains it pretty well in 6 minutes...

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Friday, January 31, 2025 9:07 AM

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