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Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:45 PM

Hey Wishimay,

Good for you for winning that insurance battle. Must have been hard since "computers are never wrong", right?

I've held that feeling about schools myself for a very long time. I always tested in the 99% range on most categories of the yearly Iowa exams growing up and usually got straight A's or at heast the Honor Roll, but in the end the only two classes I felt from grade K-12 that benefited me at all in the real world were Keyboarding and Consumer Ed (Which, probably more than coincidentally, were both only 1/2 year courses in my high school).

All that time wasted..... in another era, I'd be a master tradesman in some craft by now.

I've said for a long time that I didn't know crap by the time I was 20 and most of what I've learned that matters in life came from working on the job and learning from my mistakes when I didn't have my parents to fall back on.

When I think back on all the crap I learned in High School, it's a wonder I can think at all....
~Paul Simon



Yeah.... took a day and a half off. Woke up this morning to caulk the porch, but it was a high of 39 today, so I took to bagging 32 thirty gallon bags of leaves. I would have finished the other 8 or so bags before sundown, but there was a freak 10 minute blizzard that ruined all motivation to remain outside in this crappy weather.

Oh well....

Assuming the weathermen aren't completely wrong about the next two days like they were today, I should have the porch caulked and painted by saturday night and truly be done with the outdoor work by mid weekend!

No hurry on the dating thing ATM.

I'm the sort that is so messed up that I haven't been able to finish the porch yet that the last two days I haven't been able to get back into the basement to keep doing work I was on such a roll with before I stepped away to finish the outside stuff. I've got a house now though, which is a major thing, and no debt, which is another major thing..... Just need to get the house up to at least livable standards for any future Mrs. 6's out there, and get a job and then I'll focus on that.

I can be one hell of a boyfriend when I want to be, problem is, I'm not much of anything else when that's going on. Too much to do now for that kind of distraction.


Hey RionaEire,

Nah.... nothing like that. It's not as if I have a calendar and I'm counting the days until I'm 50 to "end it all".... Just saying that I enjoy the things I enjoy, such as smoking more than my share, and I don't expect to be around by the time I'd be of age to collect SSI benefits that likely won't exist anymore anyways.

Funny thing is I recently found out my Grandpa on my dad's side always said the same thing. He ended up making it until he was 62 though (at least my grandma has been able to benefit slightly from his SSI and from his union pension, even though he died before he could take advantage of any of it).

Thanks about the bro. I'm happy my Dad has him because he's made a lifetime habit about being as helpful to people as he can be as I do with my many different focuses. I just hope that they can get him on the right path before it starts putting a strain on his and my step-mom's relationship.






P.S... 100 posters!!!!

Man, you and I have been posting a lot here Wishimay

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

BTW... I love my General Discussion Peeps. If you feel a strong need to judge me on RWED discussions I've had in the General Discussion, I welcome it, but I also say that they are two different worlds......

And while my core never wavers and though I may say things you don't like in the RWED, I'd never say them in General Discussions and I hope you would do the same.

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Friday, November 11, 2011 8:19 PM

*snicker* *snort*

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

Yes We Did!




“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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Friday, November 11, 2011 11:12 PM

AND just what IS it you are snorting at FMF, hmmm??

Something amuses you?

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Saturday, November 12, 2011 1:23 AM

"In like, 1999"

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

Yes We Did!




“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:18 AM

Yoda: Easily amused you are...and enigmatic..hmm, yes...

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Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:05 AM

Confused by your in joke, I am.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

BTW... I love my General Discussion Peeps. If you feel a strong need to judge me on RWED discussions I've had in the General Discussion, I welcome it, but I also say that they are two different worlds......

And while my core never wavers and though I may say things you don't like in the RWED, I'd never say them in General Discussions and I hope you would do the same.

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Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:37 AM

About a month ago in this thread, Moose said something about "Rwed was civil?!!! When was that?"

Chrisisall said "In like, 1999"

Which woulda been a couple years before it existed. Hah. Somehow I doubt a couple people in RWED have EVER known the meaning of the word "civil" and even then wouldn't know how to put it into practice

But then FF.net wouldn't have been near as fun

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Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:52 PM

Haha.... yup. Something about the RWED brings out the worst in a lot of folk, even though there has been some good that has come from conversations there......

I know that I can be downright dark if I hang out there for too long. Fortunately, I have too much to do most of the time these days to spend any meaningful time in there. My advice to most of the frequent posters in RWED today would be to find a much more productive and enjoyable hobby.




I finished painting the porch the other day (Sherwin Williams, of course). It looks SWEET!!! I had absolutely no real outdoor work left to do yesterday when it was a beautiful, mid-November, 62 degrees and sunny day, so I just F-d off all day long and enjoyed the weather. It was kind of nice, actually.

It kind of nagged at me though all of the days last week spent raking leaves and caulking/painting that porch while it was windy and overcast and 30-40 degrees though.




Back in the basement today....

Man... you never really know how dirty your floors are until you take a mop and bleach to them, do you? I knew with all the work that had been done so far in the basement that they weren't clean by any means, but a 3 gallon bucket with 1/3rd gallon of bleach was damn near toxic-dead mold-sludge going down the sink when it was over. (I really need to install a slop-sink in the basement so I don't have to disinfect my kitchen sink after doing work like that in the future)

Me-thinks I'll have to mop it at least two more times, and the rough spots will have to be scrubbed down hard. Anywhere that the old water heater was dragged/sat has some rust in the grout that really needs to be taken care of. But all in all it looks fantastic down there now compared to this morning. Not to mention how great it smells.

So tomorrow I will be finishing primering the studs that haven't been hit yet, taking a wire brush to the cracks and crevasses for a second time, mopping and scrubbing once again and hopefully by Friday I'll have all of the pits between the ceramic tiles and the tracks for the walls filled with concrete and ready to caulk for the weekend.

If all goes according to plan, much of this work is largely overkill since I hope to never have a flood that escapes the crawlspace with the preparations I will be making, but ask all of the peeps Noah didn't invite on his boat about how failing to plan is planning to fail.

My basement will be more watertight than a duck's ass when I'm done, and even better I'll have the pics to prove all the work had been done behind the scenes if I ever plan to sell the house in the future.


Here's hoping I'll have my own washer and dryer installed in the basement late next week! It will be so nice not to have to drive somewhere else to do laundry.



Oh yeah.... this house will pretty much be a home by then, so I can actually spend some serious time looking for a job (for real).

Lots of stuff to do, don't get me wrong, but everything else is largely cosmetic.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

BTW... I love my General Discussion Peeps. If you feel a strong need to judge me on RWED discussions I've had in the General Discussion, I welcome it, but I also say that they are two different worlds......

And while my core never wavers and though I may say things you don't like in the RWED, I'd never say them in General Discussions and I hope you would do the same.

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Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


Oh yeah.... this house will pretty much be a home by then, so I can actually spend some serious time looking for a job (for real).



Hey brother, you are gonna have to post some finished picks when everything is said and done.
Other than that, I strongly recommend a home theater. You can get an HD projector(Panasonic AE4000 accept no substitute) and quality screen for under $2K. Fucking phenomenal. 12 years ago you would have to pay around $50,000....for a projector that isn't even half as good as the current Panny 4000. Set up a room with a 120" screen, and enjoy your favorite shows/movies in style.
By the way, I don't work for Panasonic, It's just a kick ass projector.


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70's TV FOREVER

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Friday, November 18, 2011 12:09 AM

Nice :)

I've got a 51" screen right now, but it's the last gen rear projection Hitatchi. It's a kick ass TV (especially since I don't have to haul it anywhere anymore). You can view it from any angle and the picture is still clear... it doesn't go black if you're not facing it directly like the older tech.

The only problem is it's a monster on the electricity. I only really break that bad boy out when I'm entertaining and use the old 27" Sony Trinitron for normal viewing.





As for the pics.... Already on top of it. Here's a look at what I've done so far.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/69121407@N03/sets

(EDIT: You'll have to copy the link and paste it into a browser. For whatever reason fff.net is viewing this as an email address because of the @ symbol. Anybody know how to fix this?????)


I've got some alterations to make to a bunch of the photos up there (rotating and naming the sets so they make more sense, mostly), and I have a lot to add still, but you can get an idea of what the hell I've been yammering on about now.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

BTW... I love my General Discussion Peeps. If you feel a strong need to judge me on RWED discussions I've had in the General Discussion, I welcome it, but I also say that they are two different worlds......

And while my core never wavers and though I may say things you don't like in the RWED, I'd never say them in General Discussions and I hope you would do the same.

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Friday, November 18, 2011 3:59 AM

Saw pics...Did ya get yer shelf put back up? You'll have to post some "done" pics, eventually...I never did take any pics of our basement "before", but I recently took the woman I bought our place from on a tour and when I took her downstairs, she gasped and said "It look soo different, I can't even picture what it was like in here before!" That was satisfying.

I'm of the opinion that any kind of insulation other than foamboard in a basement is a disaster in waiting. Too many things can go wrong...

Oh, I saw an article today about a man who goes to the Ukraine looking for bride and gets scammed into homelessness. So yeah, don't go there...

If I had an extra $2000 bucks, I'd take a vacay, not get a high-fallutin' tee-vay

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Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:06 AM

Shelf... what shelf????

I'm guessing probably not. If it was anywhere in that mold infested basement I haven't done any actual rehab yet. I've just gotten all of the bad stuff out and I'm working on making it water tight. I want to live through a spring flood season or two and have a new sump pump and (hopefully) one of those Natural Gas backup generators installed before I work on re-finishing it. They cost about 3000 bucks installed for the smallest (8000 Watt) units. Some could argue it's a luxury, but then again "some" haven't ever had to spend a month in a basement removing mold that had crawled up to 6 feet high behind-the-scenes either.

Not much is actually "done" yet, but just greatly improved. I just realized after I saw your post that I have a lot of updated pics that I haven't uploaded there yet. Even though the basement isn't "done" yet, I think you'll find it really cool what I'm doing to mold-proof it as much as possible. I've got a few inventive ideas going on here that I think will also add a lot of value to the house because I'm taking pics of everything as proof of work done before I wrap everything up.




Speaking of pics......

YOU DIDN'T TAKE BEFORE PICS!!!!!!!?????????

Awwwwww.... bummer.



It's such a satisfying thing for me to look at the before pics and what everything looks like now. It especially helps in the morale department when I'm feeling like something is just taking way too long and huge strides aren't being made in a short time. When I was pulling out 5 to 8 huge trash bags of moldy crap a day it was easy to see how much work was getting done and give myself a big pat on the back at the end of the day, but when it came to scrubbing studs with bleach/vinegar/peroxide, removing screws and staples from the studs, bleaching the removed trim that I'm going to try to re-use, and just general cleaning up of the aftermath, it could feel like I was working forever and nothing was getting done.

Pics are great, but I only wish somebody had invented a smell-o-camera so I could actually relive the smell of the house when I first moved in. I'll just have to be happy that I'm not the only one who was here before the work was done and that others remember how it smelled of a thousand kitty cats crapping and now the basement has a pleasant, faint, primer/bleach odor to it and there is absolutely no smell on the upper floors at all.




Hehe.... Still on that Russian Bride thing, huh?

I was JOKING!!!!!!

Seriously, what does a guy expect when he marries a foreign woman he doesn't even know, no pre-nup, and she just happens to look like a 5k/hr hooker our good Senators spend our tax dollars on?

There can sometimes be a fine line between fantasy and reality, but if some poor fool breaches that barrier and invites a woman who's upkeep costs just to look as hot as those photos he saw of her online cost 500 bucks a day, he better have a huge bankroll and an outstanding job. Not to mention a near inhuman will to not be suckered into homelessness in that one weak moment when the temptation gets greater everyday as he really starts falling in love with her.

Caveat Emptor.....



Oh yeah, and if I had the extra 2k at the moment, it's a split decision between gutters or a large down payment on that natural gas fail-safe backup system.

All of this work is a vacation to folk like me. Like the seven dwarves, I just whistle while I work and listen to my mp3s. Sometimes some jobs grind on me, but for the most part I love this stuff. It's the idea that the party is nearly over and that I'm going to have to start looking for a job working for somebody else that bothers me.

Keep shinin'!

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

BTW... I love my General Discussion Peeps. If you feel a strong need to judge me on RWED discussions I've had in the General Discussion, I welcome it, but I also say that they are two different worlds......

And while my core never wavers and tho

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Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:27 AM

Hey Wishimay!

I added the pics to the Porch Project to the photostream. There are three new sets to check out.

1. Post scrub, pre-fix/primer
2. Primered and fixed
3. Finished - caulked and painted

It looks great!

Don't mind the leaves everywhere in the pics. I've since gotten to them...... a huge pain in the ass itself, with four large maples and the fact that my lawn seems to be a magnet for all of the neighbors leaves too.



I've got a lot more pics of the basement now that all the studs/tracks are primered and I've begun some really cool work to really make the skeleton water tight. I'll have to get those organized so I can upload them soon.


I got, like, the ultimate compliment today! A couple of teen girls were walking down the street and said hi to me while I was doing some yard work. They said that they loved my house.

I haven't felt that "cool" since I was riding around in my old man's brand new Dodge Daytona as a kid and some kid yelled out "cool car!!!!" as we passed.



"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

BTW... I love my General Discussion Peeps. If you feel a strong need to judge me on RWED discussions I've had in the General Discussion, I welcome it, but I also say that they are two different worlds......

And while my core never wavers and though I may say things you don't like in the RWED, I'd never say them in General Discussions and I hope you would do the same.

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Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:53 AM

They're right, it looks pretty cool...Amazing how much a coat of paint and changing out some boards can do for a place.

Yes, I know you were kiddin' about the russian bride thing, was just on the subject...

Do you have any other projects in the house you are going to do eventually, changing out fixtures and such?(In the first set of pics there was a wire shelving in several) I know you said you were having problems with a shower leaking? Did you say that got fixed?

We finally moved in the cast iron tub I refinished($45 at a flea market, $40 for 2 refinishing kits which work great , 'cause I left it in the rain for a week and it was perfectly fine ) , and put it next to the pedistal sink I bought($20 unused ata yard sale,fixture $15 at same flea market, also unused) and introduced them to each other. They are such a pretty couple Now...just need some plumbing......and some walls. There is already lines run to the area, so it's not as complicated as it sounds, hopefully. Don't hold yer breath for updates, it'll be A WHILE, heh...

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Monday, November 21, 2011 10:31 PM

Thanks Wishimay! :)

I have a billion projects I'll eventually be getting to. I'm just taking care of the preventative stuff mostly right now before the winter kicks in. I do believe that, minus the gutters, I have the entire outside of the house and garage sealed tight now. My main focus now is making the basement watertight even though I don't plan on actual basement rehab until at least the end of next summer, if not a year from then.

Once I get all that done, I can focus on one project at a time and take a little more time to show pics and explain exactly what I'm doing. The entire 2nd floor (2 bedrooms, a bathroom and a hallway) are my next main focus.

The secondary bedroom is a HUGE eyesore. Every wall is a different primary color.... even in the closet. If life were simple, I'd have already at least primered the walls and gotten them prepped for painting. Unfortunately, the electric in that room is all out of wack. One of the outlets will actually fry anything you put into it. It is an outlet that was extended from an existing outlet on the adjacent wall on the outside of the drywall (hard to explain without showing pics).... Plus, the light switch for the overhead fixture in the room is across the hall from the room. That crap ain't going to fly with me. I very well may have to rip out a wall and some of the ceiling to fix the problems before I start remodeling the room. Even worse, I may very well have to rip out some of the walls in the hallway to fix the electricity since this ain't Cook County and Romax wasn't a code problem back in the late 50's here when the house was built. Fingers crossed they actually used conduit and bent the corners instead of using elbows or junction boxes.

Bah... if I have to take out the walls, no big deal really. It's pretty cheap to fix them and repaint them. I kill two birds doing it, since I'll make sure the electric is kosher, and I'll alleviate any subconscious worries I have that mold got upstairs. It doesn't smell at all in the house anymore..... but I'm such a mold-a-phobe now that tearing down those walls would probably be good therapy for me.




I didn't fix the leaky shower yet. I'll probably have to rehab the upstairs bathroom to do it. I think the leak is coming from one of the 2 elbows from the top of the shower head, but the creators were silicone crazy and the shower is lined with those fiberglass wall boards all the way up to the ceiling. I'd have to rip out a lot just to fix that. I'd like to replace that cheap fiberglass wallboard with some real kick-ass ceramic tiles someday, but the funds and time just won't allow for that now. So... in the meantime it's just going to be a 5 gallon bucket catching the overflow in my 2nd bathroom in the basement.





I've finished laying concrete between the tile edges and the tracks for all the walls in 2/3rds of the basement today. I wanted to do this to make sure that if there was even a flood of 1" in the basement that it would have nowhere to pool. When it's dry I just need to sand it and then caulk it to the primered tracks. It will be great when it's all done, but it seriously takes forever to do. Between mixing concrete, laying it down, smoothing it out and then cleaning up the excess from the ceramic tiles, I'm making about 7 to 8 linear feet of progress every 45 minutes.


This is probably one of many OVERKILL things I will be doing to the basement in the future, but nobody could really understand my mindset unless they've seen what I've seen. I really think that when it comes time to sell the house down the road that all of the pics I have of these little extras will really be selling points too.






Cast iron tubs are The SHIT! I envy you so much right now! I didn't even know you could refinish them on the fly by yourself. What a bargain at that price. I will definatiley be looking to do that in my upstairs bathroom when the time comes.

Good luck getting it all hooked up right. I know about time though.... I'm probably looking at get

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Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:10 AM

Post got eaten, dammit.

Any way I was thinking today about how far I'll go to make sure things don't come back to haunt me, heh. Primary colors EVERYWHERE?? Yeah that would come back to haunt me...

Tips for re-finishing a cast iron tub...(you could call re-bath but I never could get someone to give me a ballpark, they say they have to come to your house first...and I'm sure a high pressure sale is involved somewhere)$$$!

First of all, selection is key. If you live near a building salvage there may be a few to choose from. They also make resin ones now, but $$$!

Find one that has as few chips as possible(I just had one). They do sell chip kits. Mix and Apply VERY quickly, it dries like lightning!!(then sand it smooth) Make sure the drain and faucet holes are sound and round, there may be SOME rust, but not all the way through. Buy a couple tub refinish kits and a couple SMALL cheap rollers and trays, as the paint dries hard, and you will probably want to layer. Hand sand all the surface to be painted, and clean thoroughly with baking soda and vinegar, then bleach. Believe it or not, sliced onion will take off most rust staining... PAINT OUTSIDE, the kit contains xylitol. Also, if you have an old truck with rust spots you don't want getting worse, you can use tub paint-it won't come off in the rain or when you wash it, like those touch ups from the auto store...I'd like to try painting words or a design on one with it, I think it would work...

Also, if you get one that has feet, they are not usually used for support, so get a couple smooth faced concrete blocks and paint them the same color.

I know it sounds like a lot of work, but the reward of restoring one of these things is worth it...

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Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:53 PM

Heh... yup. I call it "The Clown Room". I have some beautiful Civil War prints hung up in there that my uncle gave me when he moved into a condo Downtown and no longer had room for them. It's kind of my office/workout room right now until I rehab the basement completely and move stuff down there. The prints are framed and huge so they cover a lot and make the room at least bearable to sit in, but I wonder if Grant and Lee are turning in their graves now.

Speaking of making sure things don't come back to haunt me, that's 100% of my work in the basement right now. So completely overkill I'm sure, especially if I do right and never have a flood again, but man..... it's depressing work. Everything I'm doing now will end up being covered and nobody will ever see it. It takes ages to do, and at the end of the day the visual impact is so lacking that it all just seems to drag on forever.

Thankfully, I finally finished laying the concrete today! Tomorrow I'm going to sand it all down with a grade and vaccum it all up and begin caulking the rooms that I started first. Then I have about 6 more cans of Great Stuff at least to spray all over like silly string and then I can finally put the final coat of mold/mildew proof paint on the studs and tracks.

Will I be able to wash and dry my clothes at my own house next week????????? Here's hoping!





Great tips on the tub. I'm sure that every single step of installing a cast-iron tub will be a huge pain in the ass, but well worth it in my book. Here's hoping I can find a decent one. I'd LOVE one with feet. They really don't support the weight though?

My biggest regret that I didn't get into one of the houses that I was looking at before this one was the beautiful tub in the upstairs bathroom that had feet with dragon-like paws/claws at the bottom. Seemed so retro-goth. It would be cool to find something like that in the future and restore it.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

BTW... I love my General Discussion Peeps. If you feel a strong need to judge me on RWED discussions I've had in the General Discussion, I welcome it, but I also say that they are two different worlds......

And while my core never wavers and though I may say things you don't like in the RWED, I'd never say them in General Discussions and I hope you would do the same.

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Thursday, November 24, 2011 1:13 AM

Boy, sanding concrete is impossible when you only have fine grain sandpaper (probably would be with the most coarse stuff too). The heavy duty steel wool brush I tried using was basically torn to shreds after about 8 feet of sanding. Whoops!!!!!

Screwdrivers, however, have multiple uses :)

I would have used a chisel, but I didn't want to gouge the ceramic tiles, so I had to be pretty careful. I graded the concrete so water would stay away from the tracks/studs and then I sanded the corners and tracks down so they are smooth, concrete free, and ready for caulk. Yay!

I also bit the bullet and primered all of the really hard to reach places all in one shot. There are only two trouble spots that I noticed I'll still have to bleach because I missed a little bit of mold.

Did a second bleach treatment on the tiles and bare floor and was amazed at how dirty the water was still. I'm going to keep doing that every few days until the damn bucket has sparkly clear bleach/water when I'm done!

Other than that, just caulking, Great Stuff-ing, and painting all the tracks and studs with the mold/mildew proof paint and the basement is DONE!

Well... at least until I have the money for a generator, new sump pump and all the material I'll need to actually remodel down there.....


This is so cool! I'm finally going to be able to work a real job and just do remodeling work I enjoy on the upstairs on the side.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

BTW... I love my General Discussion Peeps. If you feel a strong need to judge me on RWED discussions I've had in the General Discussion, I welcome it, but I also say that they are two different worlds......

And while my core never wavers and though I may say things you don't like in the RWED, I'd never say them in General Discussions and I hope you would do the same.

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Friday, November 25, 2011 6:01 PM

Hi 6string.

Reading your posts made me a little nostolgic for my remodeling dayz here.

Got this place in 93 and did alot uv work to increase the value to ride the refy wave.

The coolest thing I did wuz add a roof deck. also did alot uv electric upgradez, redid the bathroom, bilt a cement & cinderblock work shed that mainly servez az a house for the air compressor and generator.

Something simple to do that payz off big iz to insulate your bath tub. I put sum 2 inch foam panelz and hozed Great Stuff in the gaps. Works fantastic if you like to take long hot baths.


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Friday, November 25, 2011 11:52 PM

Hey JO753,

Ain't this work fun? Don'tcha miss it?

I don't know what I'll do with myself when I "finish" the work. I always somewhat enjoyed rehabbing work with my friend's dad, but it's nothing like the awesome feeling of working on your own place.

Heh... I think the refy wave days are long gone. I know the work I've done so far at the bargain basement price I got the place for has added a substantial amount compared to what I spent on it if I were to put it on the market now, but I fear it won't be too long before I hit the sweet spot and then suffer from the law of diminishing returns. This ain't 2002....

I think in the end I could only honestly sell this place for 220% of what I paid for it if it were completely updated and modernized, which doesn't sound too shabby.... but that would include some major things like completely ripping down the vinyl siding and putting up some more expensive material that isn't "garage-worthy" like, in my opinion, vinyl is.

A roof deck sounds awesome :) Do you mean you added some sliding patio doors to your bedroom and had a deck overlooking the backyard from it? I'd LOVE that!



Fortunately, I have a built in storage shed at the tail end of the enclosed porch. It's pretty cool to have your very own U-Haul storage locker attached to the house. The gumment must have thought it was cool too because they tax me about 80 bucks a year for it as a line item in my taxes.


I can't think of the last time I've ever even taken a bath. I'm pretty low maintenance that way. Gimmie' a hot shower and I'm all smiles. I can tell you that after I got the hot water installed after 3 weeks of doing mold remediation in 95 degree weather and taking ice cold showers afterwards that I think my first hot shower was about an hour long!

Good tip though for the future. I'm not looking to be a bachelor the rest of my life. I can't imagine a woman that doesn't enjoy a nice hot bath.

My biggest regret about this place I guess would be the layout when bathrooms are concerned. I'd love to have one of those huge walk in bathrooms with a jaccuzi in them and two sinks and a lot of room to move about, but that would entail a lot of construction work and sacraficing the sizes of the otherwise pretty large rooms surrounding them.

Decisions.... decisions....





BTW..... speaking of great stuff, it really is great stuff... but... if you're going to completely disregard the instructions like most men inherantly do and decide that wearing gloves while using it is a hassle you don't need to put up with, you better have a shut off switch for instinctual desires like diving in with your bare hand to re-fit stuff that fell over where you didn't want it to fall. I swear to god that it kills at least the first layer of skin on contact, and it also seals in any dirt you had on your hand before working with it. I had to ensure my parents that my hands were clean and washed about 8 times before I came over for Thanksgiving dinner yesterday even though it looked like I hadn't washed them in a year and necrosis had set in.

Nothing a little sandpaper the next day can't take care of, but I'd rather not have to buff my hands out with 200grit sandpaper in the future anytime soon.



Thanks for sharing

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Saturday, November 26, 2011 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:

Why is it idiots always use 30 lbs of great stuff? And you know they don't read the instructions fer anything so they gotta be walking around with hands encased in the crap...It has uses...but not for EVERYTHING. That's what duct tape is fer.



Yep, I warned ya about that a while ago, didn't I? Sometimes the 30 seconds ta put the gloves on really really IS worth it.

Um, warm oil (olive or baby or mineral) might help? Mebbe...

We got the other side of the basement wired up with can lights, Yay! Jes' don't try wiring up a light switch/power outlet combo unless you've watched the videos...Not as simple as one would think. Those vids are super helpful!

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Saturday, November 26, 2011 2:48 AM

Hehe....

Nobody ever told me it would look like my hand was a prop from Night of the Living Dead if i touched it!!!!!!!!!

Seriously......


It's nearly 2 days after the fact and the blackness on my thumb and forefinger from putting out a cigarette (because I'm one of those curtious smokers that dont' litter) is still encased in my hand as if in a plastic covering that comic book geeks would be envious of.



Seriously....

Don't F-ing use Great Stuff if you're not using gloves and you are naturally impulsive. It should say that shit on the can lol..



It's almost gone though now, 2 days later. I sanded most of it off, along with my skin.

My bigger wound is when I was cutting off a tip to a Dap caulk and I sliced about a quarter of my left index finger knuckle off.

Holy Shit!

It seriously didn't start bleeding for about 5 minutes, but once it started it wouldn't quit.

Good thing I'm not "THAT cheap" or after a half hour of working on a spot and seeing blood all over my tiles I would have just cauterized the wound.



It wasn't until I went to prepare the 2nd tube of caulk that I saw the flesh-wound on my utility knife.


Seriously....

I'll bet there are objects sitting in the Smithsonian that are less worthy than the 1/3 of my knuckle that I'm saving :)

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:

Why is it idiots always use 30 lbs of great stuff? And you know they don't read the instructions fer anything so they gotta be walking around with hands encased in the crap...It has uses...but not for EVERYTHING. That's what duct tape is fer.



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Saturday, November 26, 2011 4:00 AM

If it makes ya feel any better, I hada couple fingers-full of that a couple months ago. Even if you don't PLAN on touchin' it get gloves!

One thing about home improvin'- yer body doesn't... I've got a littany of scars ta prove it, heh.

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Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:05 AM

Hope the new forum works better than this! I forgot to copy befor posting, so now I get to retype the whole thing, goramit!!!!!

I learned the hard way to wear glovez wile using Great stuff about 25 yirz ago. But occasionally, I get the notion that I can be careful enuf and end up with a semi temporary rorsach tat. Like super glue, Great Stuff haz a demon in it that will take any opportunity to do evil.

My roof deck iz at the top uv the house, 25 feet up. The master bedroom haz access with a fold out ladder thru a hatch. Its 10 x 15 ft with plastic lumber decking.

My projects are mostly mechanical devicez, so remodeling wuz a change uv pace for me.

Last week i did an experiment for a non-trust vehicle drive concept. Negative rezult, but it wuz fun making the device. Now I'm nearly dun with 2 copiez uv an angle trisector visual demo device a guy in Australia thought up. Its to help us find a way to figure out an actual given angle trisection method, wich haz been declared impossible.

Did you know that doing the impossible makes you mighty?

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Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:55 AM

Hey Wishimay,

I got gloves I used for the mold remediation, but they're super heavy and my hands sweat so bad in them that they're all pruned up when I'm done using them. I'll have to get some of those thin latex gloves for Great Stuff next time.

Hehe...

No kidding about the scarring. I had a vision of Lethal Weapon 3 and how they were comparing battle scars.



Hey JO753,

That's happened to me a few times too, but I've noticed if I just hit the "BACK" button that the post is still there. I'm using Firefox, so I don't know if that makes a difference.

Hehe... Great Stuff really is evil stuff if you don't respect it. I'd used 7 or 8 cans of it previously without any gloves. It also says to wear eye protection. I still think that eyewear is overkill, but I could only imagine what it would do to your eyes. I'm betting complete blind spots for life wherever it touched.



Do you have pics of your roof deck? I'm having a hard time imagining it, but it sounds killer. I'd love to see it.


When you start talking mechanical stuff I'm all dumb... I managed to figure out my furnace with a few days research, and I know how to pump gas, change a tire and change the oil on my car, but that's about the extent of my mechanical understanding.

Good lucking getting mighty though. Don't let anyone tell you anything is impossible.

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Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:37 AM

I hardly, if ever, spam people with "joke" emails.......

But you've got to watch this!


I've been a Legend of Zelda dork since I was 10 and I got the first one on NES.



I probably haven't even played the last 4 or 5 versions, but this is the SHITE!



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Sunday, November 27, 2011 12:39 PM

Iz there a way to just post a link insted uv it putting the whole thing here?

Lets try this. paste this into the adress box,

zolkorp.kom/HoWS_B_a_LITL.jpg

change the k to a c and add the http:/www befor it.


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Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:52 PM

Damn, that's sweet man!

Really inventive and unique. I think your skilz are a bit beyond mine there. That looks like it took a ton of work to do, changing the shape of the house and all. I like the new colors you added to the house after the fact too.

I was thinking about maybe putting a porch out my master bedroom and adding sliding patio doors after we were talking about it last night, but then I looked at the whole situation this morning and remembered how I can't wait until I can afford a huge privacy fence to block out the view of my neighbors' yards behind me. As cool as it would be during the summer to sit out there at night and have a beer, until I get new neighbors, there's really no view I'd want to see from up high.

Maybe the village will allow me to put up a 12' privacy fence in the back yard...... no...... probably not....



EDITED TO ADD:

Oh yeah.... found more hidden mold in the basement today.... bummer. The drywall behind the stairway going downstairs that's behind the large molding is just teeming with it. I don't know what made me look back there, but I'm glad I did. I was hoping that it wouldn't have any room to breathe or grow back there, but sure enough...... I think I'll have to take the drywall out all the way up to the top of the molding and then brace it all with some strategically cut 2x4's before I repaint anything. That's a lot of work I didn't want to have to do, but I'm glad I found it now and not after I refinished anything.

Oh, and wouldn't cha know it? As I was finally taking the parts to the fiberglass shower out of the basement this morning so I didn't have to keep moving them around while I was working and risk breaking them, I broke one of the sliding doors into about 3000 pieces. I hope I can replace a single door and that I don't have to replace the entire shower unit.


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Monday, November 28, 2011 1:45 AM

Thanks! It wuz a bunch uv work, but well worth the effort.

Sorry about your mold problem and the shower door.

I do that wuns in a wile myself - make an effort to protect something and break it in the process! It makes me wonder if therez a destiny thing involved.



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Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:27 AM

It looks great. I hope your neighbors keep up their yards and garages a bit more than a few of mine do. It's not exactly lakefront property with a view beyond my property line.

Uggg... the shower door. I've been hemorrhaging money since I bought the house 3 1/2 months ago, but I expected as much. Not cool when I go and sabotage myself like that though. I've managed to track down the manufacturer/vendor and they're based in Canada. I don't have a firm price yet, but I think I'm looking at about 200 bucks with shipping to get the replacement door.

At that price for such a small part of the shower, I have a decision to make. Maybe I should just add some square footage to the bathroom and install a large tub with jets and put some nice tiles everywhere instead. In the end, that would cost me a lot more than 200 bucks, but the shower itself doesn't look brand new as it is. Since it was "free" before, I was just going to put it back, but I may consider my options a bit more heavily now. Maybe fate did me a favor here?





I truly believe the mold is gone now. I had to gut another 2 bags worth of it today and do another bleach treatment. I should have known better. That's what you get for cutting corners. It was really bad there behind the scenes. I'm just glad I broke down and just tore it all out instead of trying to seal it in. It's all part of the stairs though, so replacing all of that is going to be a monster project compared to the rest of the stuff I've already remediated.

I've removed all of the polysheeting, so it shouldn't be but a week before the bleach smell is gone and I'm hoping there is zero foul odor when that happens.

Fingers crossed......

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Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:45 AM

I'm wondering if you can't just put up a curtain rod and take the shower door out completely?
I've never liked those glass door slide-y things. They block air flow, and always look like crap, even after you scrub them.
I hada similar prob, a while back. I had one of those nice heavy old mirrors I took down so I could paint behind it on the floor with a painting and a glass coffee table top...The next day I hada really heavy trip to the dump
The good news is I found a new mirror at the GW that is much prettier the next week, so....

Anyways...Keep on keepin' on, Mold Soldier

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Tuesday, November 29, 2011 4:43 AM

Mold Soldier.........


I like that :)

I've been watching re-runs of Weird Science and I feel like a bad-ass Chett when you say that :)

I totally could do what yoy you said, but this is supposed to be a chick magnet when it's done....

No benefit to me to Scrooge out last minute


HOw do I explain the most perfect snowblower known to man, yet have a tiddlywinks relationship?

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
I'm wondering if you can't just put up a curtain rod and take the shower door out completely?
I've never liked those glass door slide-y things. They block air flow, and always look like crap, even after you scrub them.
I hada similar prob, a while back. I had one of those nice heavy old mirrors I took down so I could paint behind it on the floor with a painting and a glass coffee table top...The next day I hada really heavy trip to the dump
The good news is I found a new mirror at the GW that is much prettier the next week, so....

Anyways...Keep on keepin' on, Mold Soldier



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Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:18 AM

Chicks like pickin' shower curtains... they get to put their opinion in even when you're taking a...break, hah. I lust after one at Bed, Bath, and Beyond for the 2nd bath...Can't bring myself to buy a curtain for it yet, but it will be a special trip to town when I do

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:02 AM

I posted only rarely, but still look in now and then to catch up on fanfic and to see if the Real World remains an interesting place.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:16 AM

I'm really thinking that when I have a job and some decent cash flow again that I'm just going to take the old thing out completely and put an oversized tub with jets down there. There's no way I could make the bathroom upstairs big enough to do that, but there is some room I could sacrifice in the basement to expand the bathroom and get a kick ass tub in there.

If the future Mrs 6 wants to pick out shower curtians, she can do it in the "master bathroom".

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:17 AM

Hey Lucciola,

Nice to meet ya. I don't think you were posting regularly back when I was before.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:12 AM

Hey wishimay,

One more money saving tip for ya for the holidays!

I was looking for some battery operated LED motion sensor lights for closets and the ones Costco had before they no longer carry. I found some on Amazon.com that were 15 bucks each before but now reduced to 6.57 a piece.

I was going to order 4 of them 26.28 and get free shipping, but Amazon had an offer for an Amazon card that would give you 40 bucks if you were approved. I signed up, ordered my 4 lights, and I now have a positive balance of 13.72 on the card for future purchases!

Free shipping too... of course

If you have any early Christmas shopping to do and you know something you're looking for is on Amazon that's over 25 bucks for free shipping, you can't beat it. If you're afraid of credit cards, just cancel it after you use the balance and pay it off :)

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I was looking for some battery operated LED motion sensor lights for closets and the ones Costco had before they no longer carry. I found some on Amazon.com that were 15 bucks each before but now reduced to 6.57 a piece.

I was going to order 4 of them...



Most of the closet spaces here already have lights and switches, but those aren't a bad idea for the one I have that doesn't, may hafta.

As for ordering online, I am somewhat of a dinosaur in that respects, I have only ordered maybe 3 things online, and only when it was a massive savings to do so. I believe in trying to keep it local, and actually getting out and going for a walk once in a while...and I leave my internets at home when I do it, hah.

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Thursday, December 1, 2011 12:54 AM

Ha, 6IXSTRINGJACK -- I loved the vigorous nature of some of the Real World discussions, but was far too timid to jump in. You guys were pretty determined. Nice to meet you.

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Thursday, December 1, 2011 3:44 AM

You wanna tell us a little about yourself now? We promise not to determinedly jump down your throat here, hah. Although if you stand still in this thread long enough, you might just get painted or caulked on, sorry

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Thursday, December 1, 2011 6:50 AM

That was funny Wish.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, December 1, 2011 11:36 PM

*wishy takes a bow. Thank you I'll be here- well, until they close the place down. Where else is as much fun as this place?

By the way- Jack... you know how you found interesting paraphenalia by yer garage? I found a centerfold of Anna Nicole Smith from the old days INSIDE a wall. Apparently it's a somewhat commom practice of construction guys to do that.
Makes me wonder who else is in here....

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Friday, December 2, 2011 12:24 AM

That's funny too Wish.

Wipes smudge of blue paint off cheek.
:)

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Friday, December 2, 2011 1:27 AM

Hey Wishimay,

The only "closet" in my house that has a switch has studs for walls in the stripped basement. The upstairs closets have nothing. The pantry next to the kitchen (which currently serves as my indoor tool shed) has nothing. The finished Anne Frank crawlspace (where I house my smoking room/mancave/drinking and emailing and posting on FFF.net) has nothing between rooms.

4 of these bad boys are going to come in VERY handy.



I'm all about supporting local business, but when the stuff I was going to buy was outrageously priced at Best Buy or WalMart compared to online, I choose online. I can't think of a ma' and pop store I'm screwing when I order 4 free LCD lights.

Just something to ponder. 40 free bucks and free shipping is always good in my book.




Hehe... about the interesting parafanila sealed in my garage. It's been over 6 months now since I've partaken in that "hobby" and only recently have i not imagined what it would feel like on a daily basis to do it again. I had to throw that out and bury it in a mold filled garbage can so I wouldn't smoke what looked to be a half-bowl of possibly ancient "stuff".

I wonder what else I would dig up if I took all the walls down....

Jimmy Hoffa?



Installing my washer and dryer tomorrow. Yay!






Hey Lucciola,

Vigorous indeed...... :)

These days I find that energy is much better spent on things I can do for myself in real life rather than try to convince people who will never change their mind that they're wrong.

Of all the years I spent there, meeting Frem and the aftermath of a conversation we had were the only pluses of any of my time spent there. If you ask the kid who benefited from that though, I'm sure he'd say it was all worth it. I'm inclined to agree.

I just don't want to spend another 3 years there hoping something else good will come of all of that otherwise wasted time.

Later,
~6

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Friday, December 2, 2011 3:30 AM

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Hehe... about the interesting parafanila sealed in my garage. It's been over 6 months now since I've partaken in that "hobby" and only recently have i not imagined what it would feel like on a daily basis to do it again.



Yeah, the lights ARE a good deal. And yep, I'm stubborn.


6 months huh? Good on ya, mate! Never let anyone or ANYTHING dictate yer day, I always say. Stayin' busy helps, fer sure. And if you haven't found Hoffa yet with all the walls you've taken out, I'd say yer pretty safe...

I am this week doing something I said I'd never do again- wallpapering. Somebody wrecked a couple walls in the bathroom, and I'm putting textured paper(looks like knock-down) up and then painting, with new shiny trim (as there was 3 different kinds). We already replaced the toidy, the sink, cabinet and fixtures. All told, an entire remodel (a la auctions!) about $400. Going to another this weekend 'cause I HAVE to have a riding mower. Pushing hurts too much... Cross yer fingers I get a good one cheap!

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Saturday, December 3, 2011 4:46 AM

Well... I'll let you know for sure about the deal I got when I get them. Most people seemed to love the lights, but there were some disproportionate negative reviews in there too. There always are though, right? Some people are never satisfied.




Crap... It's actually been 8 months! I think except for a brief 3 month stint off of it when I was looking for a job back in 2004 I could count on my hands and toes the number of days I went without my sweet MJ.

I'd say it's amazing how much physical work you can get done when you're not on it. I won't say that all work can't be done on it though. I had a very large, unpaid, project that required sitting at a computer for hours on end for years that never would have been completed had I not been able to partake in my favorite hobby. To somebody like me with undiagnosed OCD, that beautiful herb is like a tuning fork that can make you shut everything else out and make some really great things happen.

I'm actually an advocate of the stuff, ESPECIALLY with all of the man-made anti-psychotics, psychotropics and hypnotics the government sanctioned drug dealers (aka pharmacists) dole out to the masses (even our children ), but I don't advocate it for everybody and certainly not in every situation.

Nobody, but your D.A.R.E. Cops speaking to 3rd graders (do they still have those?) could argue that it's much less dangerous for your own health than cigarettes. From personal experience in my own life, I'd MUCH rather be behind the wheel of a pothead than an alcoholic when they're indulging. There is, however, an undeniable lack of motivation that is derived from it, at least in my case. Even a sense of paranoia (which is, personally, the number one thing I'm glad to have shed myself of this last 2/3 of a year)

The effects are different for everyone though. But couldn't you say the same of nearly any drug you can buy at the pharmacy?

I have an aunt and a very good friend who, literally, can't even take a shower without smoking a bowl beforehand. They both work great jobs and nobody would ever know they did it because they're cognizant of society's perception of the act, they actively cover the smell and they have a steady supply of Visene. I could never go to work high myself (I did it once on the job when I was offered it by my boss doing construction...... 6SJ + Herb + Job = Bad things). I'm the type of person who gets really cerebral on it and would rather just stay at home and would largely be useless in any social capacity.

To each his own. My feeling is, as long as we as society feel it okay for people to smoke cigarettes and drink (even if we now feel we can make them only do it in their own homes), I feel that weed should be on the OK-to-do-list too. The only problem is, you can't test for driving on it like alcohol. It would be no fair if you were driving and got pulled over and they gave you a pot-exam and you failed it because you smoked two weeks ago.

It's ridiculous.... I can go for a drug test on a Monday after shooting heroin or snorting an 8-ball on Friday night and get the job. I smoke a doober 4 weeks prior though, and it's a done deal.

Bah..... whatever..... I'm done with it, at least for now. At least till I get a good job. Hopefully I can keep saying no when that time comes. I've done really well so far.





Anyways.....

Got my washer and dryer installed tonight!!!!!!

I may have mentioned a LONG time ago in this thread I bought them on Craigslist about 2-3 months ago. 300 bucks plus 30 delivery (a 28 mile round trip for them) for a Stainless Steel Designer Series Amana set. I'm so happy they work exactly as he said they would. He, his wife and his son came for the ride after we loaded them up and they just seemed honest as hell. I gave the dad a 50 dollar tip when it was done and he called his son over and gave it all to him. He also saw my garage and told me from one homeowner to another he'd recommend covering the windows to my garage and they've had an old green bed sheet covering

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Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:08 AM

Darlin, walkin IS the problem. We have a self propelled. Can't. Heat. Walking, heat, very bad. Lights flashing, dizzy, blisters, rashes, sneezing, OUCH!( I have problems )
BUT WE WERE VICTORIOUS... Got an unused Ranch King fer $200(with snow plow attachment). Everybody was saying what a good deal it was. The only real problem is no key, but a nice ol' boy said our local yokel shop should have it, he has the same model. Got enough other stuff I needed to fill a truck for $30. (fans for basement, toys, desk for kiddo, new comforter in bag for $5, lamp for $1, folding table for $2)
Met nice people, hada good day out

I hope one day I get to legally try yer herbs, I think they WOULD help some of my problems. In the meantime, nobody gets to raise my kid but me. Can't go being a hypocrite to her just yet...

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Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:50 AM

You can't walk without death-flash heat????

I figured you and the hubby to be a bit older than me, but not relics. :)

If that's the case, and I'm not your doctor so I can't be sued, but I'd recommend eating a lot less salt and at the very least mowing your lawn for exercise every week, even in the dead of winter.

You know I have your best intentions in mind. If you didn't post here regularly, nobody would.





If you're really on your way out, which I don't believe for a second, you need to put pot on your bucket list. The only two things I put above it for instant amazing self gratification is a few lines of coke or whatever0 money it takes for unlawful carnal knowledge of a girl who is of age for a few hours.

(See what I did there????? For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge..... my personaly favorite Van-Halen.... Van-Hagar album :))

I don't believe for a second a bad ass bitch like you is in Her way out, but if there's any chance of it, just do it. F to the U to the C to the K it.

If that was the case, I'd love to meet up with the both of you and hubby and bring some bad ass stuff and bake them into some really tasty brownies. In all of my experiences with it, the best high I ever had was about 4 years on a camping trip when I ate copious amnounts of happy brownies.

No paranoia there. Just the best herbal high of my life surrounded by mine and my brother's friends around a campfire.

I even played "Stairway" for them on my ancient acoustic guitar that night :)



Say it ain't so WIM....

I love talking with you :)

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Darlin, walkin IS the problem. We have a self propelled. Can't. Heat. Walking, heat, very bad. Lights flashing, dizzy, blisters, rashes, sneezing, OUCH!( I have problems )
BUT WE WERE VICTORIOUS... Got an unused Ranch King fer $200(with snow plow attachment). Everybody was saying what a good deal it was. The only real problem is no key, but a nice ol' boy said our local yokel shop should have it, he has the same model. Got enough other stuff I needed to fill a truck for $30. (fans for basement, toys, desk for kiddo, new comforter in bag for $5, lamp for $1, folding table for $2)
Met nice people, hada good day out

I hope one day I get to legally try yer herbs, I think they WOULD help some of my problems. In the meantime, nobody gets to raise my kid but me. Can't go being a hypocrite to her just yet...



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Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:14 AM

Actually, I'm younger than you. I think. Age is no indicator of health. Children get cancer and worse and young people get old people diseases(I'm not terminal, but...).
I'm onea the latter. Having a rough evening, if you wanna know(salt has nothing to do with it). Trying to live as normal a life as can be until I can't anymore(then I shall gladly hedonist myself, royally, I may take up yer offer some day ). Trying like hell to Gorilla tape myself together everyday, anyway.

Never have guessed it, huh? Actually, that's one of the reasons I like this place, I'm not the only one getting by, and as long as I can come here and crack a few jokes and get into a few arguments and see others I know still keepin' on, it's all good, hon... No worries!

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Monday, December 5, 2011 7:40 PM

Ya had any luck in the jobs search dept yet, now yer all clean and shiny dressed?

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Tuesday, December 6, 2011 2:35 AM

I'm 32, so you may or may not be younger. Don't know why I thought you might be older than me from previous posts, but I'm just as faulty a barometer of that stuff in-the-skin, since I assumed my neighbors with a 2 year old child were older than me until the wife had her 10 year reunion about 3 months after I moved in.

Oh well.... Age is always a factor in this day and age, and I guess I'm still ahead of the game since Chris Matthews hasn't knocked at my door yet and told me my 20 year old liaison was really only 16.

Sorry to hear about whatever it is you have. It seems that MS and cancer run rampant in my family, so fun times ahead for me, I'm sure. At least I'll have a full head of hair when I die early and there's no hereditary heart problems in the history.

I might think differently if I ever got married and had children, but I've already told my old man and my brothers to shoot me if I ever had to wear a diaper. If they wont, I'll do it. I've got a compact 45 that is just about the size of my brother's .22 if you were not looking at the barrel. From the barrel view, his looks like a BB gun, and mine looks like a hand cannon. To this day, I've never fired a real gun. I just want to have some stopping power in case of a man-made zombie apocalypse, or the ability to end it all IMMEDIATELY. My Uncle tried that once, but it didn't work out so well with his John Wayne six shooter and he "lived" for about 5 hours in the hospital before his job was done.





My ideal death.....?


House is clean, hard drives are clean, and I'm wearing fresh and clean clothes from head to toe when I go out. Even better, I've got so many friends and family interested in my own life at that point that they find me before the neighbors complain about the "stink"



Totally grusome, I know, but a guy who lives alone needs to think about these things. Without a wife around to make sure some basic things are attended to, who's going to do it for him.


Like "Tracy Jordan" said....

1) Live every week, like it was Shark Week.

2) Dress everyday like you are going to be murdered in those clothes.

:)


EDIT:

Nope... no luck in the job search dept...... I've got some influential feelers out at Aldi and a Pipe-fitter union test coming up in late January. Hopefully something pans out :)

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Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:14 AM

hi...long long ago in a place far far away ...

you and other fans of old try out beta.firefly.net new website ? I through some ideas out to start brainstorming for Serenity next 2 hr episode ... perhaps y'all would jump on board and carry on ... ?

pmd
Babylon V ... and thereafter ... through the looking glass.

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Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:27 AM

Chris Hanson. I like that show. Gonad guided missilez getting themselvz in big trouble.

Sorry about your health problemz, Wishy. Hang in there, maybe they will find a fix soon, or at least hang on for the Big Dam Sequel. (Hopefully befor the zombie apocalypse, wich everybody apparently agreez iz immenent)

Ah, 32. I remember being 32. The good old dayz. I'm nearly 52 now! I'm now wun uv thoze geezerz who tellz you that time flyz and you'll be az old az me befor you know it!

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Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:37 AM

To JACK: Well, assuming you don't have a b-day for the next 4 months you'll have me beat by a year, old man

Hmm, my thoughts on death. I've had some time ta think on this subject in the last year...

I have this theory that a drug overdose is a bit like riding on a tilt-a-whirl. First you get a little dizzy and a bit of a headache, then your arms and legs get heavy, you get nauseous and then want to go to sleep... and that's how I'd like to go. But I'll have to find someone who's tried and failed to know fer sure...sure ain't gonna jump in front of nothin' and screw up a poor schmucks day.

I also have this bizarre idea of having my skull bones bleached, and sent to a celtic mystic for tribal decorations, so I can be passed down the generations. I never said what was IN my skull now was entirely sane







BTW, I'm not plannin on bein' dead for a long while, so nobody worry. I just get the crap inconvienenced outta me until I get there

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Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by morrisondnltprln:
I through some ideas out to start brainstorming for Serenity next 2 hr episode ... perhaps y'all would jump on board and carry on ... ?




Welcome back from wherever you went hon! I think most of us are waitin' till Castle gets done, but if'n ya wanna chat about ideas, you might get better reception if you start a new thread, this one is MIGHTY long. We had one a while back but it seems(like me!) everyone has their own agenda for what they'd like to see happen. Most of the guys just wanna see Christina Hendricks mostly unclothed. I'd take ANYTHING. I don't care if the whole cast is nekkid, or wearing burkhas...


I swear by my pretty floral burkha, I will end you

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Tuesday, December 6, 2011 5:55 AM

Hi Jack, its cool that you are stickin with the eight months and more to come thing, good for you.

Wish, it sounds like whatever you have causes you quite a bit of physical pain. In my state people are allowed to use mk for pain management when what they have is notable. I've heard it can be quite helpful. If I ever get in a situation like that though I'll have to find another sollution because marijuana plus mental health challenges equals uh oh most of the time, I only know of one or two exceptions, other than that just say no. But if you're neurotypical you're probably allright to try it if you can, I doubt Indiana allows that though?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, December 6, 2011 5:59 PM

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I doubt Indiana allows that though?




Yeah, and not about to. The general public here is massively ignorant. Hubby has a saying about it- either you are Apple Pie smart or Circle PI smart. Apple pie smart means you know when to hunt and when to plant,i.e. yer typical county bumkin, and pi smart means you have a circle that encompasses many things ... Oh, what it's like when worlds collide...

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Wednesday, December 7, 2011 5:35 AM

Hey morrisondnltprln,

I went there once, but since I don't remember my password and it's already a cookie in this computer, I just keep plugging away at the blue border version. What's the difference besides the red border?

You probably don't want to hear my ideas for the next Serenity epsisode. My thoughts were that the show was cancelled so damn prematurely and the movie fastforwarded through about 9 seasons of great stuff.

I'd love to see the first movie entirely erased from existence, give everyone who acted on the show a non-existent youth potion to put them back at 2001 age and keep the show going.

Same thing for Arrested Development. Although it sounds awesome that they're actually going to bring the show back soon since NetFlix bought the rights from the idiots at FOX, everyone is so much damn older than when the show was awesome. I'm afraid it will be like the short-lived Spice Girls reunion. lol.

Sadly, I think the only previously canceled FOX show that has a chance in the long run is Futurama because it's a cartoon. :(




Hey JO753,

Haha....

I've never actually seen the show, but I'm aware of it because of two things.

1) one of the funniest episodes of South Park ever where probably 50 guys shot themselves in the head all episode long when Chris Matthews entered the room. and...

2) The episode of 30 Rock when Tina Fey was hooking up with the "Mayhem" guy again until she saw him on an episode of Dateline trying to hook up with a 16 year old.

"Let me tell you about 20 year old women. Half of them are 16." lol

32 is pretty sweet man, but I have the same nostalgia for 22 that you probably have for 32. Funny thing is, all through my teens I couldn't wait to be in my 20's.

20-something is surely the sweetspot, but I couldn't pinpoint that day. Seems like the grass is always greener elsewhere.....




Hey Wishimay,

Well... I'm sorry for whatever it is keeping ya walking enough to push self propelled mower. I figured you were young with the way you talk about your daughter, but I didn't know. I'm still hella-strong, but my endurance is for shit and my joints hurt a lot. I long for the days where I used to be able to run 5 miles a day and I wasn't even getting tired until after 3. Even though I've lost nearly 60 lbs, it hasn't been because of any cardio.

I'll go as far as to say that I look pretty damn awesome these days with a shirt off, but my 76lb Junior High self would kick my ass to next week in a Cross Country race. It would be over before it even started.

F-ing cigarettes. I LOVE them, but I HATE them. :)



If you have time to think about the means of your own death, my advice is to do more home improvement or find a few other hobbies to take up the time. Hypocritical thing for me to say, I know, but I don't like hearing people I like putting too much time into it. I've had three people very close to me in my kind-of short life successfully pull it off. Some after several attempts. (One of them, I've already mentioned, was my uncle who I lived with at my Grams for a few years when times were bad.... he was like a brother to me).

In the end, they say you're only hurting yourself, but I don't believe that for a second. Maybe I'm just more empathetic than most other folk, but those three deaths are crosses I'll have to bear for the rest of my life.

There's almost absolutely nothing I could have done to change things, but I hate admitting how often I think about what I could have done had I known beforehand.

Trust me.... If you ever tried and failed, said poor schmuck, if they're anything like me, is going to have a much better day than if you succeeded.

Besides.... you have a beautiful daughter who needs her strong willed Mama around.



Nothing weird about the bone bleaching thing. I'd love to have my ashes shot out of a cannon by Johnny Depp like Hunter Thompson did.



I'm not really worried about you, and I know we're just discussing things. Actually, when I thought back to what I w

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Wednesday, December 7, 2011 6:07 AM

Don't know if anyone liked the Zelda Rap link, but I guess those guys have been popular enough to make SNL skits. This one has Steve Buscemi, one of my all time favorite actors.....

http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/lists/snl-digital-short-batman

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Thursday, December 8, 2011 2:41 AM

Hey Wishimay,

Washer and Dryer run like a dream! Four loads done so far. Feels good to not have to go to my Mom's to do it anymore finally!

I'm going to have to call that guy who sold it to me on Craigslist and tell him thanks for the awesome set. I totally trusted that they were good when he and his family came along for the ride to drop it off at my place (40 miles, round trip) but it's nice to see that there are good and honest people out there. If that set even worked in the first place has been nagging at the back of my mind through all this work.

Right now, I'm really glad I gave him that big tip after the agreed upon price for the items and delivery. It was really cool how he called his son over and gave the money straight to him. He was probably too young to be spending it on a little girlfriend, but I hope he enjoyed whatever he spent it on.




Incidentally, I'm using some Arm and Hammer detergent that was pretty cheap at the market. Not sure if my clothes are cleaner than when I was using Tide on sale, but They sure smell great afterward. It comes in a green bottle. You should give it a shot. We might all be paying more for Tide, just for the sake of using Tide.


Got a ton of carpet ripped out today too. All the carpet going downstairs is gone. Unfortunately, the wood underneath is neither hard-wood, nor is it in any condition to stain and varnish. It's definitly high enough qualty to have done that, but the person who put it in knew they were putting carpet over it and used drywall screws all over the place to install the boards. Plus, he was a little staple crazy and I spent my entire morning pulling out about 500 staples on about 6 stairs. I'll just fill it all in and primer and paint them like the rest of the exposed basement for now, but that will probably look like shit when the real remodeling starts and I'll just replace it with some nice oak.




I've been a little slow to get up to work this week because I'm just so bored of the basement work and doing things nobody will see when it's all said and done. It is so-the-opposite of instant gratification, working down there day in and day out.

After exposing the stairway this morning, I took a break from that and did two pretty awesome things today.

First, I finished decorating the Christmas tree that my Mom and Step-Dad gave me. It's their second one they no longer have the energy to put up (the one that is probably as old as I am :)). Got a bunch of generic red balls, gold drums, multi-colored lights and gold garland they gave me up on it, but got about 25 unique ornaments my mom had bought every year for me while I was growing up. It really looks nice. I didn't think I'd do it this year, but I'm really glad I took a time out to put it up.

I may be cheap as hell, but there's no Scrooge living here....




Second, I ripped out all of the carpet, staples, and those wooden tracks used for the carpet in the second bedroom. WOW!!!!! does that oak hardwood floor underneath it look amazing. Eventually it will all have to be sanded and refinished because the first 1 1/2" or so were slightly damaged from the carpeting, but..... just ...... wow....


It's nice to be excited about something in the house again. I've spent more time than I care to admit catching up on TV shows this week rather than working. That boring, monotonous, mind-numbing work in the basement was really starting to wreck my calm.


"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:02 AM

Yep, I think keeping someone chained up in a basement is right up there on the level of hell chart...I went through a period last spring when it JUST>>>>KEPT>>>>RAINING and I was just not able to go in the basement for a month or so. Just dealing with it, and the not knowing when I wouldn't was too much for a spell. It's all good now. It took a while ta catch up on laundry, though...and yes, Arm and hammer ROCKS. I like the purple kind... I used Wisk for a million years and A@H is the only other thing that don't make me itchy.

BTW, my dad also passed this spring from a long damn battle with prostate cancer. Thus the morbid thoughts...You may not havta go ta mom for your laundry anymore, but be thankful she was there, you never know when she won't be...

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Thursday, December 8, 2011 7:46 AM

I think I remember you mentioning your dad passing away earlier this year, I'm sorry. I didn't know you as well at the time so that's why I didn't remember it. You've still got your mom living right?

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, December 8, 2011 2:32 PM

Yeah, but that's not sayin' much. Ironically, she moved away pretty much the minute I got preggers, and has been on a quest to find ulimate independance and a man ever since(see the irony??) She's seen her grandkids a handful of times, mebbe.

All I have left is my 87 year old gran, who has macular degeneration and is going blind and senile. Cancer wiped out everbody else years ago, though I do have extended family that I'm pretty sure don't know I exist, and a couple people who are for all practical purposes dead to me. I guess that's why I'm here so much, gets pretty boring in the evenings when hubby's at work. His family??

You got a lot of family?

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Thursday, December 8, 2011 10:01 PM

Yeah I've got lots of family, two parents whom I love dearly, couldn't have asked for better. An older brother with 3 and a half, technically four but no. four isn't done in the oven yet, a little bro (my little dude, aged 9) Aunts uncles cousins, some of which I really like and some of which I'm neutral about, my grandma, my mother's husband's family, I like his parents a lot but the rest of them I'm kind of neutral towards. I think you can never have too many relatives, yes, I'm one of those people.

Are you an only child Wish, sounds like you are.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, December 8, 2011 11:07 PM

I have an older bro, who has a wife(she's allright) and a kid, but they don't live near. We get together once a year or so or we did while dad was alive, but were never close (for various reasons I shant post here).

You'll have to come in and tell us when ya get the 4th level auntie update...Babies is nice

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Friday, December 9, 2011 12:11 AM

My older bro and I have never been close either. Mostly its because he has a difficult temperment, always has. His children do too but the oldest, age 8 is learning to work around it and has grown out of some of his more irritating pissinesses. Plus I'm auntie and everyone likes aunties that like them and spend time with them. The other two are babies so they are still forming their personalities. I'm close with the kids even though my bro and I aren't close. My little brother on the other hand is the part of my family I always felt wasmissing, until he came along, we're very close.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Friday, December 9, 2011 2:07 AM

Still keep fooling me with the avatar, Rionaire! Yoiure a girl!

6string, Chrs Mathews iz the political comentator on MSNBC. Hanson iz the perv hunter. My fave episode wuz in the 1st seazon. He caught a rabi trying to meet a 12 yir old boy. Turned into a bigger catch for the cops wen it turned out he wuz part uv a gay pedofile rabbi club.



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Friday, December 9, 2011 6:30 AM

I am a big advocate for gettin' rid of the pervs. It's hard for me to watch that show, even though they catch 'em because it makes me so mad I mostly I just wanna em.

What is the point in which an adult says doing that is ok? How do you get there to that point? Do they intend to be evil, or is it mostly just opportunistic? Why do so many women that have kids live with convicted child molesters? Why does such a large segment of the population have a faulty judgement center?
I just don't get it. Can't wrap my head around it...

BTW JO...half the people here have avatars that are not the same sex they are. I've been hanging around here 6 or 7 years and I still can't remember who is what half the time...

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Friday, December 9, 2011 7:36 AM

Goram jender bender preverts!!!!!! I'd be scandalized...if I hadnt dun it myself sum yirz back! (tricked a frend uv mine that he wuz IMing with a really hot chick for a month. hehehehehe)

"Therez a special place in Hell just for men who take advantage... and thoze who talk in theaterz."





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Friday, December 9, 2011 2:03 PM

So what did this friend of yers do when he found out? Did you tell him or did he put 2 and 2 together?

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Friday, December 9, 2011 4:04 PM

Hard to say wut he did. we stayed 'frendz', but he wuz alwayz an assclown, so seperating out any new assclownish attitudez or activityz iz impossible. I suspect, for example, that hez been working against The Nooalf Revolution all along, but he wuz against it before also.

The whole thing wuz actually an effort to fix sum uv hiz flawz. He wuz completely incapable uv lissening to anybody - he woud think he knowz wut youre going to say and interupt mid sentence - so the fake chick wuz designed to be sumwun he woud 'lissen' to. The original plan wuz that she woud get him to realize (it wuz all AOL instant message) wut hiz problemz were and he woud hav a chance uv fixing himself.

I bungled it though. I went to alot uv effort to create the girl and tricking him wuz way too much fun. I made her too perfect for him and he fell in luv with her! I accidently tipped him off sum how during an excessively long IM. It wuz halarious, really, he & hiz brother were calling me on the fonez, asking for Jenny, 'wut are you wearing?' 'wut color are your pantyz?' etc.

He did improve a little, at least for a while. Its a strange malady, since he can lissen to people on TV with no problem, but its like he thinks real people are idiots or lying, so he cant pay attention for more than a few secondz. Makes it hard to hav a decent conversation wen hez spouting off sum shallow crappola frum the History channel or Fox 'News' and then wont lissen to my opinion on the subject.

One can alwayz hav hope that people can improve, if only they know wut their flawz are.

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Tuesday, December 13, 2011 2:51 AM

Haha....

I won't even get into my family dynamic. I could write a very long and (probably) very uninteresting book about it (to anybody outside of my family).

I do admit though, now that most of my cousins are grown ups and a few of us sometimes get together without the parents around, I do get a totally different vantage point than I ever did as a kid growing up in a messed-up-yet-no-more-messed-up than the average American family. I've got about 20 cousins, but I really only keep in touch with about 4 of them semi-regularly either in person or via email. It really amazes me how much of our DNA is similar, yet there are so many wildly different personalities in my generation of the family.

Things are strange, and people (especially), can be VERY strange.

It's actually quite comforting to know about some of this stuff that people I grew up around, who spend what must be a lot of their effort throughout their lifetimes to come off as they've got it all together and they don't have any issues. Kinda lets you off the hook for your own shortcomings and demons.

Far be it for me to judge anyone's behaviors though, particularly when they "KNOW" nobody is watching. I grew up with a lot of anger and hateful vibes that developed as a child and solidified as a punk teen well into my 20's. No good can come from any of that. In fact, I consider myself very lucky to be in the position I'm in today with the road I was traveling down, and the companions I chose to keep company with. I've seen that behavior all but destroy several people I care about, both inside and out of my family tree, and I've seen that behavior do others in.

Bah.... I don't want to talk or even think about family issues too much. As much as I hate the futures laid out in 1984 and Brave New World, the more I delve into my family history and pettiness, the more I am inclined to say that Orwell's Brave New World is a better alternative, and I hate thinking that way.






Anyways.... I got that plug outlet in the second bedroom taken care of. Such a small thing in actuality, but it was DANGEROUS work.

There were a couple of problems....

1) the outlet box behind the ghetto outside-the-wall crap they installed was not what I thought it would be. It was a smaller than normal sized box, and I was completely unable to re-install the outlet inside of it after removing the whole shitty patch job.

2) There are, I kid you not, two layers of drywall on the outside walls of the bedroom. That in itself wouldn't be much of a problem, but the first layer is a type of drywall I'm not familar with. It's not the concrete stuff you'd put in a bathroom tub to prevent any mold buildup or a breakdown in overall structural integrity from the moisture, but it's wrapped like regular drywall but more like stone than powder between the sheets. Cutting through it with a drywall hand saw takes ages. Unfortunately, after cutting 12 inches of it with a woodcutting blade on my sawsall, the blade was destroyed.

Fun

3) The electric in my house is so messed up I don't even know how to figure it out. I mapped out breakers months ago and I verified that the outlets I was working on were not live before I worked on them. I only turned that breaker off. Cutting the live wire in the box for what I needed in the future went off without a hitch. Cutting the negative wire though (white wire) there was nothing but sparks. I ran downstairs and shut off the main. As far as I can tell, nothing was burnt up this time...... whew!

The bad news though, was it was about 3:30PM and I had to figure out a way to do this before it got dark. That didn't happen. I spent an hour with my flashlight powered by the same 18V batteries my drill and sawzall uses. I had a backup tiny flashlight in-case that died. Eventually I had to wrap it all up and just cap the wires before I lost any auxiliary power.

I'm glad I did too, because when I tried using that backup flashlight the next day it died after two minutes.

I would have to

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Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:44 AM

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I won't even get into my family dynamic. I could write a very long and (probably) very uninteresting book about it (to anybody outside of my family).


2) There are, I kid you not, two layers of drywall on the outside walls of the bedroom. That in itself wouldn't be much of a problem, but the first layer is a type of drywall I'm not familar with. It's not the concrete stuff you'd put in a bathroom tub to prevent any mold buildup or a breakdown in overall structural integrity from the moisture, but it's wrapped like regular drywall but more like stone than powder between the sheets. Cutting through it with a drywall hand saw takes ages. Unfortunately, after cutting 12 inches of it with a woodcutting blade on my sawsall, the blade was destroyed.


I'm so glad it's done now, but.....

WTF was I thinking??????

I can't even tell you how lucky I am that I still have both of my thumbs!!!!!!


I still have a spare blade and a half for my rotary saw. They're "masonry" blades. Should cut through that weird drywall without any issues and not damage the studs too much if I'm careful.


Post eaten..
My family thinks I'M the wierd one, and I'm thinkin' "Pot callin' who??? black?"

Does your drywall have and colors to the paper, or layers of plaster or impressions?? Sounds maybe like rock lath... Never know whats under the surface, in people or in houses

And fer chisssakes, be careful. Might wanna call someone before you get started and say "If I don't call you by such a time, call and see If I'm still kickin','eh?"

The other day a gal tried to cut off her man's Jimmy with a sawzal and I thought "Use the right tool for the right job hon, maybe a electric turkey carver?..."

No more tofurkey for me
Where are we going? And just why am I in this handbasket????

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Tuesday, December 13, 2011 6:41 AM

Six, I'm glad you're okay, electrical can be really dangerous if you haven't had the training for it.

Wish, that is so weird that your mom isn't excited about the grandkids, really weird person she must be, grandkids are just about everyone's favorite thing.

A Joe a chara, I'm about as female as they come, I don't think I could fool anyone into thinking I was a boy. I'm getting better at playing male charactors in pretends though, but its slow going.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:05 AM

Hey Wishimay,

If your posts get eaten, seriously, just hit the back button and it should still be there. Then, select all, copy it, and go back to the thread. Hit reply, paste it and hit post and you should be good.

It happens to me here all the time. I think it has something to do with the amount of time between when you click reply and you actually post. It never happens when I make a short post, but let's face it, how often do I make a short post here?


Pot calling the kettle black... hehe... Reminds me of an awesome shirt I saw online a few years ago.






Yeah, it seems to be real drywall. I can't tell about what color the paper is on the stone stuff, but it seems like the paint is on paper and there is a clear deliniation between the two sheets. I could be wrong though. I've never seen this stuff before in any of the remodels I've done. I have seen plaster put on wood lathe before, at my grandma's house before, but that house was pre WWII and built originally in the 20's. From my understanding, unless somebody had a specific affinity for plaster and lath and paid extra to have a builder do it, everything in the US built after the troops came home from WWII was some sort of drywall/sheetrock. This house was built in '59.

I always used the words drywall and sheetrock interchangeably before, but I may have to reconsider that now. The top layer of whatever it is I need to remove truly deserves the title sheetrock over what we commonly refer to as drywall. (Although, I'm just as consumerised as the next American, and without even researching it, I'm betting Sheetrock may just be a brand name brainwashed into the proletarian lexicon like Band Aid is almost always incorrectly used for a bandage, or those weirdos who call every type of brown syrupy pop/soda "Coke").



Great idea about calling somebody first. I'll definitely keep that in mind next time. I'm just imagining how hard it would be to dial a number on my cellphone without a thumb.



A sawzall for the Bobbit treatment! You got to be kidding me!!!!! Throw the book at her! There is no way that that wasn't pre-meditated.

Turkey carver.... lol. Maybe you should be put on a watch list too.

Isn't there about 18 different tools that could do the job much more quickly, quietly, and effectively in the Miracle Blade set? Hell... even if you were a sloppy household and only did dishes once a week, you should still have about 5 or 6 spare blades from that set in your kitchen if you were at least considerate enough to use a clean blade to get the job done.

I know "Uncle" Ron Popeil would totally use that as an aside in his infomercials as a selling point if mentioning that you could remove your philandering husband's offending appendage with this knife as if slicing through warm butter, even after you spent all day cutting tomato cans in half with it would net more money than he'd loose by mentioning it.


Sawzall.... geez.

I thought it was just men who always seem to have a desire for bigger and more powerful machines than they'd ever need to get the job done. I wonder what else that beast of a woman is hiding under her flannel or her mullet.






Hey RionaEire,

Thanks! I'm glad I'm okay too.

Yeah, I haven't had any official training or certification in electric, but like most things I know how to do today I didn't learn it in school. I learned on the job or taught myself.

I mentioned here before, if you weren't reading when I posted it, that I fixed a sabotaged furnace about 2 months ago doing research online and speaking with a licensed HVAC guy on a DIY site. I didn't even know how to light a pilot one day, and three days later I made 4 critical fixes to get her up and running that would have run me in the vicinity of 400-600 bucks to pay somebody else to do, depending on if he was a "parts-thrower" or not. In the end, it only cost me 8 bucks to fix it.

When I asked the HVAC guy on the DIY si

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:59 AM

Wish I had a garage!

I also hav a Milwaukee Sawzall and am not a big fan uv the tool. Very well made, good old fashioned pride uv workmanship company, but the tool iz not very ergonomic and haz a limited range uv applicationz in which it iz the best option.

Had a great idea today - bild a house that looks like a Firefly. And not a cheezy standard construction pile uv wood & plaster tornado snack crappola! Make it like it will really go into space! Haf inch thick M5 steel, completely air tite, az many real moving parts az you can manage, etc. Then wen the teknology exists, you can convert to really be a Firefly!

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:30 AM

Being the first one I've ever had, I have to say that garages are awesome!

I haven't even had more than a 1/16" of snow yet, but I know the bad times are coming.




The blades are Sawzall, but the company is DeWalt. Please tell me what, yet again, I've been brainwashed to call a tool by its brand name.

It wasn't until early this year that I called it a Rotary Saw instead of a Skilsaw......






Ummmmm Sure dude. Build a Firefly. Sounds awesome. Just don't ask me to esplaine to wife where all the money is going, mmmmmmmmmmmm-kay? lol


Maybe, in the mean time, epsecially if she is a fan, you could turn one room in your house into a room on Firefly?

That just gave me an awesome idea man......


Thanks!

I think I'll turn my "game room" in the basement into a complete replica of the dining room on Firefly!!!!!


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Wish I had a garage!

I also hav a Milwaukee Sawzall and am not a big fan uv the tool. Very well made, good old fashioned pride uv workmanship company, but the tool iz not very ergonomic and haz a limited range uv applicationz in which it iz the best option.

Had a great idea today - bild a house that looks like a Firefly. And not a cheezy standard construction pile uv wood & plaster tornado snack crappola! Make it like it will really go into space! Haf inch thick M5 steel, completely air tite, az many real moving parts az you can manage, etc. Then wen the teknology exists, you can convert to really be a Firefly!

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:09 AM

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Wish, that is so weird that your mom isn't excited about the grandkids, really weird person she must be, grandkids are just about everyone's favorite thing.




Yeah, tell me about it. I told her my kids B-day was last month, and she said "Oh, well I guess I'll have to send her something..."
To date she has recieved nothin
Not that we care about the junk, but damn....

Ironically, my dad who wasn't really interested in parenting when I was little was a better grandparent than she could ever attempt to make up for. Damn cancer...

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:09 AM

Awesum idea! Haz the advantage uv not costing 30,000,000$.

Garage...ggggggggg(the sound Homer makes wen he'z thinking uv sumthing delicious)

I coud hav bilt a garage, but the roof deck project had a big inspiration advantage, and I didnt know my line uv work wuz going to fall off a cliff, so thought I coud do it a year or so later.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:23 AM

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Hey Wishimay,

If your posts get eaten, seriously, just hit the back button and it should still be there. Then, select all, copy it, and go back to the thread. Hit reply, paste it and hit post and you should be good.


This house was built in '59.


A sawzall for the Bobbit treatment!





Yeah, I didn't seriosly know how ta cut and paste(really not much of a 'puter person!!) when I first came here, but I've gotten so used to pareing down and reposting. Gives me a second chance on the brain delete button, yanno? Strangely enough, the sawzall story made it both times, hah. Don't go overthinkin' that too much, just a sick joke...I find I do those more when I'm tired....But yeah, good sharp steak knife would be more'n enuff, says I **Jack winces again

I think I need a bumper sticker of that pot 'n kettle, yep....

Hey, half my house is a 59, Good vintage!


I did nothing today but go to the dentist, booo!

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:32 AM

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I coud hav bilt a garage, but the roof deck project had a big inspiration advantage, and I didnt know my line uv work wuz going to fall off a cliff, so thought I coud do it a year or so later.




I'm always worried about that, It would be hard to sell our house half finished and you never know, right??

BTW, We turned a small room into a big closet and we call it a dressing room, anyway, it is kinda FF themed as in to say east-meets-west, beige with gold and burgandy accents and asian decor..Inara would approve..

Also, tonight I was watchin NCIS and the gals name was Lt. Reynolds and the one of the first thing she said was "Wish like hell I was elsewhere" She even sounded like Mal...except she was preggers, lol....

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Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:29 AM

I could see where you're coming from on the garage JO753. Lived my life without one to this point. I love it though. I don't plan on ever not having one again.


Any ideas about how to get the goods to make a Firefly room? Short of making every little thing myself, I can't imagine it wouldn't cost a fortune to have somebody make all of that custom.


Hehe.... My step-dad does furniture restoration and has just branched out into custom woodworking in the last few years to try to expand the business and keep it afloat in these bad times. Maybe we could make a template and be the first to put together sets for people who want a Firefly dining area in their own house.

Do you think that would be copyrighted?

If it was, do you think it could still be advertised online as a "MalRen" Dining room or something like that without being sued? I'm sure we couldn't use the words "Firefly" or "Serenity" to advertise it, but there should be a way to replicate a set. I know there are replications of Mal's jacket and other costumes available online.




Hey Wishimay,

How come it's all fun and games when we all make jokes about "Bobbitig" the goods, but if the tables were turned and I started making jokes about using a sawzall to shave off a few boobies as an update to Jack the Ripper's MO with new tech, I'd be the bad guy?




'59 certainly seems to be a good vintage, overall. I love the hardwood floors on the first and second floor. I bet the electric was pretty decent when it was first made, but with 3 or 4 owners before me, it looks like there's been a lot of cheap and easy "upgrades". I'm sure if I was a real electrician, I could really map down every wire to the nitty gritty, but it seems that that is beyond my scope. I really thought I had that all figured out until the "dead" outlet I was working on when I shut the power off to the second bedroom, as well as the master bedroom and the entire finished attic, and sparks flew when I cut the negative wire.

LOL.... I also noticed that the one outlet in the Master Bedroom that my alarm clock was plugged into wasn't controled at all by this breaker since the clock was still on. If I had to guess, it's on the Living Room breaker.



It's all rather moot at this point though, since I don't think I'll ever do any electrical work inside the house without turning off the main after what happened the other day.

I'd love to update it all, but I'm not in the mood to gut the entire 1st and 2nd floor to make the electric right. It is what it is....



Haha... I love that Pot'n'Kettle shirt :)

Just make sure you're cognizant of what neighborhood you're driving through if you put it on your bumper.

I never put anything on my bumper, be it a joke or a political statement. You never know what crazy out there will take it the wrong way and try to knock you off the road.








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Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:50 AM

Making the Serenity dining room for yourself will certainly require you to upgrade your capabilityz. But thats how you get better at thingz - take on challengez.

Duzn't seem like a commercial opportunity to me, but wut do I know?

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Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:39 AM

I'd think you could get some of the different chairs at flea markets, goodwill, or furniture resale places. Paint the walls a yellow squash color, and I know I have seen stencils for sale online just like Serenity's. Maybe cabinets could be the color of the lockers, not necesarily lockers. The table would be a toughie...you don't see many like that. Tell visitors that you are a fan of a style called homespun shabby chic...

I have also seen instructions for making the candle basket on the table here just this year, should be in the thread listing somewhere's...

I wouldn't mind having the sitting room with the table. Provided people could keep from throwin' that table around... Not so sure visitors would understand the safety harnesses, either...

Oh, and Jack?... if ye want my boobs, you can have 'em...I want bigger ones anyway

Hubby nods approvingly...

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Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:46 AM

Just logged in for the first time in years, I think... the netflix news brought me back, and I want to check out what I can do to participate.

I think most of the veterans kinda lost interest (I mean, most of us have been extremely active in trying to bring Firefly back for years, to no avail) and were replaced by the next generation of people who discovered Firefly.
I'm quite sure we'd all be back if need be. Browncoats 4 Life! ^^

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Friday, December 16, 2011 5:07 AM

Yep, all Joss has to do is say the word. NOW SAY THE WORD ALREADY, DAMMIT!!!

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Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:41 AM

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I'd think you could get some of the different chairs at flea markets, goodwill, or furniture resale places. Paint the walls a yellow squash color, and I know I have seen stencils for sale online just like Serenity's. Maybe cabinets could be the color of the lockers, not necesarily lockers. The table would be a toughie...you don't see many like that. Tell visitors that you are a fan of a style called homespun shabby chic...

I have also seen instructions for making the candle basket on the table here just this year, should be in the thread listing somewhere's...

I wouldn't mind having the sitting room with the table. Provided people could keep from throwin' that table around... Not so sure visitors would understand the safety harnesses, either...

Oh, and Jack?... if ye want my boobs, you can have 'em...I want bigger ones anyway

Hubby nods approvingly...



Thanks for the brainstorming, but if I did this...

"This has to be PERFECT, Miss Lemon"

Sorry, I've been catching up on 30 Rock, and Tracy Jordan is on of the best comedy TV characters ever made, even though I didn't like any of Tracy Morgan's skits on SNL before I stopped completely watching it altogether.

SNL has suffered from bad writing for at least 20 years now. Adam Sandler is funny, Mike Meyers is funny, Tracy Morgan is funny, and Tim Meadows was the red-headed, black, stepchild. As amazing as these, and other SNL vets are, the material seemed to drag a 1 1/2 hour show to to 4 hours of torture because it sucked so much. We'd all just stick around every week and watch a billion commercials for that time to see the 20 seconds of comedy we needed for the week.

Speaking of Tim Meadows... forget about the Ladies' Man.... this was his best skit....

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/040acb5ffa/princess-and-the-homeboy-g
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Anyways, good suggestions about the Firefly dining room there, but if I do it, it has to be perfect, otherwise people might ask why I have a second, weird looking, dining room in my basement :)

As far as the table goes, I bet my step dad could make it possible. I could work with him to make it when he has some down time at the furniture restoration shop and I'm sure he'd only charge me for materials. He'd get a thrill out of building a table from scratch with me for my new house.


But... That's all just a spur of the moment pipe dream. In the end, I probably won't do it. If I did, I'd have two dining rooms and a pool table would be out of the question. The room I'm talking about doing this in, until a few days ago, I already had other plans for.....

A big screen TV mounted in one corner, high on the wall, like at a sports bar, a pool table, and a MAME arcade cabinet monster that would support 4 player action for games like TMNT and the Simpsons, as well as a trackball in the middle for supporting Golden Tee games. Oh yeah, and at least one kegerator, but probably two so I can have cheap beer and good beer on tap at the same time for when company comes over.






Haha.... Boobies. My step-mom always talks about how she wants new boobies too. My dad, who's 20 years her senior, could sure as hell afford them in his retirement, but if he believed there was anything wrong with her he would have done it already. I know how women are about self image and stuff, but not every guy in the world wants a Lara Croft wife.

Everything is cyclical in life, and I think natural boobies are making a comeback. Katrina Bowden from 30 Rock was voted Esquires 2011 sexiest woman of the year by the readers. She's hella fine, for sure, but compared to previous winners Scarlett Johannson, Meghan Fox and Angelina Jolie, she's severely lacking in that department. I'm sure in real life she could reduce me into a drooling, bumbling moron in less than 30 seconds, but that still doesn't change the fact that she's a large B cup at best.

Besides, agree with the guy or not, but when Mancow was still on the rad

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Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:56 AM

Oh, BTW.....

Thankfully, I'm in much better spirits tonight than I as last night.

I didn't want to be a Debby Downer before I needed to be, but when I was removing drywall on the 2nd floor to make the electric stuff good, I removed a 2 1/2 foot section (only 1 foot high), and there was black mold on the drywall where ti came into contact with the tracks. I freaked out that it was up that high.

Mold Remediation 101......

Figure out where the mold is coming from before you "fix" anything.

I was at a loss.

I told my mom and step dad about it last night, and today my mom asked me if any of the previous owners had dogs or cats. What a good question!

Given the materials used, I'm quite sure I'm removing stuff that was installed when the house was built. For instance, why would use nails to install drywall today when you have superior drywall screws that are rust resistant?

Sure enough, when I removed the other 8 feet of drywall that had to be removed there was no evidence of mold.



NOTE TO SELF: If you ever plan on owning a dog, a cat, or a child, don't have carpeting in rooms they are allowed in.

As a side note, holy shit those studs, tracks and insulation is ancient. My gramps wasn't home from WWII for 8 years before that was all put up. I can't even imagine how much asbestos I've breathed in yesterday removing that drywall with a power saw.

If I didn't smoke, I'd probably give a shit.

Tomorrow, as an encore, I will be eating the paint chips off the wall.

I've read Marvel Comics when I was a kid. That kind of shit give you super human powers.

I'm LEAD MAN!!!!

Iron Man ain't got nothing on me bitch!

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Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:55 PM

So youre a 'boob chick', eh, Wishy?
I'm a 'boob guy'!

Pandora Peaks iz my fave.



I met her in person & got a pik uv her sitting on my lap!

6string, If they bring back anybody frum the original cast for a movie or a new show, they coud just place the time 10 or 20 yirz beyond the Firefly period.

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Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:39 AM

Grandpa Mal... lol

Maybe bring on Shia LaBouf too and make a spin off after Mal hands down his jacket.

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Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:46 AM

Shia Labouf and sam Worthington!

Their contracts state that they must be in all action/fantasy/syfy moviez until further notice.

About your no carpets where the pets are idea - where are they suppozed to barf then?

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Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:09 PM

Haha! Sam Worthington though....? He might be able to be Mal's slightly younger bro, but he's got a few years on me. Wouldn't piss me off so much if he was the guy getting face time with Megan Fox in the Transformers movies :)

At first I thought you were talking about Sam Rockwell, who it turns out is over a decade older than me (I can't believe that!). You should check out his movie Moon. It's AWESOME. I saw it twice. Once at my dads on an old standard TV and then again on Blu Ray at my brothers house. The movie is entirely different in 1080. It's as if you were right in the room with him.



Dogz and Catz aren't supposed to barf if you're feeding them right. I suppose though, if I had a cat today that took care of the mouse problem that has just popped up, I wouldn't hold it against the cat if it barfed up mouse bits on the hardwood.

Got my traps today. Going to set them tomorrow.

I hate hurting any animals, but this is MY house


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Shia Labouf and sam Worthington!

Their contracts state that they must be in all action/fantasy/syfy moviez until further notice.

About your no carpets where the pets are idea - where are they suppozed to barf then?

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Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:58 PM

Sam Rockwellz contract stipulates that he gets to show hiz ass in all hiz moviez. Naturally he wuz the star uv Moon!

I saw that this year. Great movie!

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Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:26 AM

Yeah, Moon rocked!

LOL... about ass shots in every movie. When I saw moon it was killing me the whole time because I knew I saw Rockwell before but couldn't place it. It wasn't until I watched MADE a second time, John Favreau and Vince Vaughn's Swingers-type mob followup that I remembered that's where I saw him before. He was the poor schmuck bellhop that Vince humiliated and threw his drink on for no reason (just Vince being his usual D-bag self ) As far as I know that was the only other movie I've seen him in, and he didn't get to show his ass in that one. It must have been before he got a better agent to get him a sweeter deal.

I remember the days when Bruce Willis had the ass-shot-in-every-movie contract. Guess I missed the memo that it was bequeathed to Sam.



I like Moon because it's one of those movies that you're like "WTF is going on" the entire time, but when it's over you pretty much get the gist of it. Two other movies I can really recommend if you liked that one are Ink, and Total Recall. You've probably seen Total Recall by now if you weren't living in a cave, but Ink is something almost nobody has heard of. It's in my top 10 movies of all time and it's probably the best damn movie that nobody has ever heard of. Oh.... eXistenZ with Jennifer Jason Lee and Jude Law is pretty sweet too. (That one took a bit of contemplating after watching it the first time, but I'm pretty sure after the second viewing I don't have any unanswered questions).


I also like those movies where you're like "WTF is going on?" the entire time, but at the end of the movie you're like "WHAT!!!!???? THAT'S IT!!!!!???? WTF DID I JUST WATCH!!!!?????".

My top three in that category are "Donnie Darko" "Mullhulland Drive" and "Event Horizon". Every few years I watch them again, and to this day, I still don't know what the hell they're about. One time I thought I finally got Donnie Darko, but when I watched it again the next night to verify my opinion I realized that I just had more questions I didn't even think to ask before.

Pretty frustrating movies overall, but if you got a mind like mine they make for some pretty heavy pondering.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Tuesday, December 27, 2011 2:30 AM

Boy.....

Romex can be a tricky mistress.....

She lures you in with that siren's song of (I'm so much easier to install even though I'm against code), but if you're anything like me and have no desire to burn your house down, you better do it right.

I was working later than I should have (again) on the circuit a few days before Christmas and I thought everything was perfect before nightfall. I flipped on the switch to the main in my almost completely dark basement and I saw a spark that nearly made me shit myself. (I hear that those sparks happen all the time when a breaker goes, but I've just never been in front of the box in near-dark when it happened before).

For the life of me, I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. It's Romex, to an outlet.... not even a switch. It should be "Electric for Dummies".

After a little bit of internet research I found another person who had the same problem as I ended up having. I'd like to refer to it as Herculitis.

This ain't conduit son... no need to tighten down those screws so tight that you could make the wires bleed copper.

When I loosened the connectors and pulled some of the cable through, my Romex was just as burned as hers was. After removing the yellow sheathing I discovered that the neutral (white) leads were pinched so bad that the copper was exposed.

It's all good. I had an extra 5 feet of it for the length I needed in the first place, and rather than be a cheap bastard about it and thinking I could use that 5 feet somewhere else someday, I just left it behind where teh drywall will go up. I just had to pull about 6-7 inches more through each side and start again.

Now I got me 3 working outlets in the secondary bedroom.





BTW... does anybody know if it's kosher to drill 3/4" holes through ceiling joists to run conduit? I want to move a light switch for the bedroom so it's actually in the bedroom and not across the hall. The current switch, which is about 3 feet away from the room, is wired over the joists and under the carpet of the finished attic crawl space. I'd much rather rip up the ceiling drywall and drill through joists than rip up finished carpet and the plywood beneath to get the outlet where it should be.



If you've got any thoughts....

Thanks!

I can't wait until that's done and I can primer over the hideous colors on those walls in that room.


"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Tuesday, December 27, 2011 2:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


Now I got me 3 working outlets in the secondary bedroom.





BTW... does anybody know if it's kosher to drill 3/4" holes through ceiling joists to run conduit?
If you've got any thoughts....






Giggles...You roll with it yer own bad self Whatev you can get to work, and not look too outta place, right?

I asked hubbs, who had to take a wiring course for ADT, he said 3/4 in IS kosher, as long as it is in the middle of the joist, and as long as any low voltage wires like phone, cable are not run with it, they have to be a couple inches away at very least...

Hope at least SOME of yer weekend was relaxing

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Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:17 AM

Hehe....

The last few days were very relaxing.......

Too relaxing, in fact, so my new unpaid tenants, the mice would tell me.

I hadn't cleaned my kitchen for a few days with the holidays and I was mortified when I woke up this morning and saw all the mouse poop on the kitchen counter. I had a brand new loaf of bread out there that I had to throw away. From the front it looked good, but they chewed right through it and ate about the size of 3 of them right out of the bag.

And what thanks do I get for the free food?

About 30 pellets of mouse crap on my counter that are smaller than any respectable ant's body, that's what......





Seems they're either too tricky for the traps I set this morning or they're too aware of me stomping around. Hopefully I get a few of those bastards and I'll start again tomorrow.


I HATE the idea of killing any animal. In fact, I'm the guy who will trap a spider in a cup and a piece of cardboard and let it outside. I just know there's no other way to rid oneself of mice, and this is my house Gorram it.







Tell hubby thanks for the electrical/joist tip. I probably have only 5 joists to drill through from the look of it (without actually removing the drywall, that's my guess).

This is good news. I was hoping I didn't have to either rip up carpet upstairs or tear down half of my ceiling just to get this run an alternate way.






I hate Romex, and I wanted to do any new electric to code, but the existing structure wouldn't allow me to do it for the 2nd outlet. It was either seal it all back up without an outlet and call it a day or use the Romex.

You could ask your husband this.... but my thought is that properly wired Romex is completely safe, it's just not up to code because if anything ever dies there's no conduit to snake new wire through.


From what I've seen so far, I bet half of this house is Romex anyways. Was there even electrical code back in 1960?

If you want a house that's perfectly up to code, you better build it from scratch yourself or buy a new house. Even then, do you trust that the guys building it didn't cut any corners?



"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:56 AM

We don't really have building codes here. It's kinda like red lights are just a suggestion People here wouldn't follow 'em anyway. You think I'm kidding. We don't really even have building permits, nobody notices or cares if you hammer away the night...

A part of out house still has old fiberglass sheathed wiring. I talked to an electrician that says some in the area still have knob 'n tube wiring, sheesh.


It's nice here, but I sure wouldn't mind having something to do, that's not of my own making...

Egh, mice...We had some here when we first moved in(house was empty for 6 months), I can't sleep when I know one is in the house... See if you can figure out where they are gettin' in at, and if you can find any holes behind cabinets or baseboards or in closets and nail them shut!!!... Putting in new trim helped a lot here. Ours were in the attic, little bastards. One was a fancy rat, had creepy little hands instead of furry paws, *shudder. 4 boxes of poison dribbled in various locale and (knock on wood) we haven't seen 'em since. Couple even had the decency to die IN our trash can, heh. Just remember, if you get a pet or have kids over TO PUT THE BOXES AWAY. We forgot when we puppysat and just barely remembered in time, whew! A little won't hurt most, but if they eat alot they bleed to death internally, ick...

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:18 AM

Haha... I bet you're right about the code down there. I hear in Illinois if you drive about an hour south of Kankakee the only time the un-Constitutional smoking ban in is ever enforced in any of the bars or restaurants (outside of Springfield) is if the owner doesn't like smoking and gets enough non-smoking patronage or the bartender just doesn't like you. It's only by the really big cities/suburbs that these things ever seem to be taken seriously.

We're probably a little too close to Cook County where I'm at though. It's got its plusses and minuses. It's nice having a bit more of a country feel and privacy here than back home, but at the same time having a White Castle, Pizza Hut, KMart and Menards all within walking distance ain't half bad either.

I've heard from a neighbor or two that Romex for new electric probably wouldn't fly around here, not that they give two shits about code themselves. The way I figure it so much of this house is wired up sub-code that unless I was going to gut every interior wall I'd not really be accomplishing all that much by making the small amount of electric I'm doing up to code. Chances are, even if I somehow managed to devise a way to use conduit to the 2nd outlet, there's no chance I'd ever be able to fish back to the box from the 1st outlet.

As long as it's all safe, that's all I really care about. If I wire it up right the first time, it will be just as good 60 years from now as the day it was installed, right?






Ah... the mice.....

Got two of those little bastards while I was sleeping last night. Must have got them right away because the food looks untouched. These plastic Ortho traps seem to be so much better than the old wooden/metal traps. No mess at all... not even any punctured skin. And the same tab that you depress to "lock" it into the ready position is the same tab you press to release the mouse in the garbage.

My grandma said that once you use a trap you can't re-use it... but she was talking about the old wooden ones that make a mess. These things look perfectly clean, so I don't see why they wouldn't work a second time, even without washing them and putting new bait inside.

That being said, I didn't wash them and I just put them right back where they were and reset them. It's been almost 24 hours since I've caught anything.

So, either:

A) I'll have to wash the traps and re-bait them.
B) I only had two mice in the house.
C) My mice are a mouse/raptor hybrid and they're not about to fall for the same trick twice, no matter how much I clean the traps.

I'm hoping for B



I saw my first mouse about 10 or so days ago, and I had two other times where I've seen them clumsily trying to scurry away behind the stove or the kitchen as I entered the kitchen (they really aren't graceful creatures at all, are they???)

I guess it's possible that if I only spotted 3 mice in 10 days that there were only 2 here. Some lady on the Lowes website who reviewed these things said that she caught about 7 of them in a few hours with these traps (and she was mortified that there had been a "gang" of mice in her house before).




Anyways... got the drywall up over the two outlets I was working on today. Going to mud them tomorrow. I hated having to use my 1/2" mold resistant drywall up on the 2nd floor, but because the outside walls in that room were two sheets of drywall that was 7/8" thick I had to improvise and use a dual layer of my 1/2" greenboard and 3/8" regular drywall. It's not that I'm sweating the 2 bucks more a sheet price, but I don't have a pickup truck yet and when I run out of drywall I'm going to have to ask another favor to pick up more.

The light switch is going to be such a bitch however. It's gotta be done though. I couldn't live with myself if I just skipped over that completely and started painting that room knowing that I could have spent a while getting that switch in the room like it should be.




Man... I always thought I loved working with electric. Turns out I only love

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:57 AM

I saw an article the other day that said rats will free other rats if given the option...don't underestimate the critters...

Oh, and I get the 200 POST goodness!

Wanna go for 3?

I wonder what the longest post on this site IS??

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