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Where's Niki and Anthony?

POSTED BY: RionaEire
UPDATED: Monday, March 18, 2013 21:10
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Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:34 AM

Where is Niki, I haven't seen her in a long time, I hope she is okay. Maybe she's busy with that healthcare situation she was telling us about. I haven't seen Anthony for a while either. It is his way to go away for a month or two and come back again though so I reckon he'll be back in time, but I've never seen Niki away for so long.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:21 AM


You just had to go and jinx it, didn't ya ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:36 PM

Everyone hates posting here Riona....

Maybe they'll be back in less than 3 years like I did......

I hope they're alright too.

I'm sure they are though. The actual RWED probably took front seat to our faux RWED.....

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 5:06 PM

I left when Frem attacked me around the gun issue, Riona, and haven't posted since. I realized I'd broken my own rule, I'd left myself open to someone actually hurting my feelings on the internet. That hasn't happened in over a decade, and it won't happen again. My "enemies" can't touch me (this should all be good news for you, Rap: I won't be around to counter your deliberate ignorance anymore), but I let a few people here get close enough to me that one of them finally did.

So I'm pretty much "gone", now. I pop in every couple of days but don't see much to post about and usually get turned off by the sheer volume of PN gross-out posts and there being little, if anything, else. Not willing to put in the time and energy to offer information for those who might be interested, mostly because it wouldn't make any difference anyway, never has, and there are plenty to express their opinions without needing me around.

My life has changed dramatically, too. Getting off all the meds had me lose some 20+ pounds without even trying, I'm not falling asleep in the middle of the day anymore, have begun cooking so I can eat my one "meal" mid-day (to avoid reflux, since I'm not on the meds anymore) and somehow without being here, ended up with more projects than I can handle. Driving a bit North weekend mornings early to run the dogs with some mushers up Sonoma way, and with Jim retired, we get the dogs out every day almost without fail at dawn, so I do that rather than come straight in to sit down here and lose half a day to a whole day here. Was a great way to break the habit.

The only reason I still come is because the only option when we get back and I have my V8 and banana is to watch TV, and I've avoided the news and politics, which has been great. What little "good" news there ever is doesn't do much for me; this country has been headed in such an awful direction for so long, I no longer want to hear about it. Everyone who's even bothering to pay attention is so distracted by the faux drama created by the right that few, if any, are noticing that while the DOW is record high and corporations and the rich are getting frighteningly richer daily, everyone else's standard of living and wages are going steadily downhill. That's not going to change, and it makes me sick to my stomach.

Scalia's remarks about voting being a "racial perogative" and the fact that the FUCKING supremes will probably do away with the Voting Rights Act was pretty much the final straw for me. I couldn't believe it and was devastated to learn about it, and what it says about my country and my government disgusts and sickens me to the point where I don't even want to know what's going on anymore. Just that and the DOW hitting record territory, while the right is working so hard and so effectively (with the help of the left in power) to make things even WORSE for those who actually keep this country going--you know, the workers?--pretty much sums it all up for me.

I'm ashamed and deeply saddened for my country. I'm still semi-active politically, but I'd rather focus on just about anything else at this point, and being here is just a waste of time. There are those I'll miss; that's the only negative I can think of about it. But most of them aren't here anymore anyway, some no doubt for similar reasons to mine; I don't think Frem has returned either and Anthony was gone for a long time before anyone but me seemed to notice. The same with others. I'm sure I won't be missed any more than any of them.

Good wishes to all those sane, lovely people who remain, I really do miss you: Rap and Six and the rest of you assholes who ruin this place for whatever your asinine reasons are: go to hell.

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 6:01 PM

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Just that and the DOW hitting record territory, while the right is working so hard and so effectively (with the help of the left in power) to make things even WORSE for those who actually keep this country going--you know, the workers?--pretty much sums it all up for me.


Yeah. Really I think a lot of people knew all along how bad it was, but they didn't want to believe that.

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Good wishes to all those sane, lovely people who remain, I really do miss you: Rap and Six and the rest of you assholes who ruin this place for whatever your asinine reasons are: go to hell.


I appreciate the sentimental subversion here. As one of the insane assholes, I promise to keep the fires going and simulate plenty of brimstone.

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 6:11 PM

Ri - just as it's bad karma to comment that a pitcher is throwing a no hitter in baseball, some things are just best left unspoken. As now you see why.

And Niki... Touching you is no where on my " to do " list. Eww.

*Follow up - After reading your little screed... wow. I was going to joke that you clearly were off your meds, only to see that indeed, you ARE ! Not that it alters your warped view on politics any, but it sure does seem to make you more ornery. And while I fully agree w/ Scalia and his comments on the VRA, as it absolutely needs to go, MY guess is that it won't. See, I live in this fantasy world, were folks are treated EQUALLY, and no special privileges are given to one group over another. Some other fine American once made a speech about it... Martin Luther something. Oh well.

I could say more, but what's the point ? If you're truly leaving, then I wish you happy mushing w/ your huskies, and give them a big hug for me.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 8:25 PM

Operative Nikovich2's propaganda paycheck was terminated by Obama's Sequestration budget, that gave an extra billion borrowed 'Federal' Reserve Counterfeit Notes to Israel.

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 9:52 PM

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I left when Frem attacked me around the gun issue, Riona, and haven't posted since. I realized I'd broken my own rule, I'd left myself open to someone actually hurting my feelings on the internet. That hasn't happened in over a decade, and it won't happen again.


Frem? Are you kidding, Frem...that flaming psycho who hates everything is why you don't post anymore? Frem hurt your feelings? You must be joking, right? I guess all the others that always backed you up on everything don't matter, only that Frem pissed you off? How pathetic. What are you...Joan of Arc or something?


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My "enemies" can't touch me (this should all be good news for you, Rap: I won't be around to counter your deliberate ignorance anymore), but I let a few people here get close enough to me that one of them finally did.

Yeah...your "enemies". That's pretty psychotic in itself. There are no enemies here. There are Firefly fans who have different views of the world, that's all. Obviously you took the whole thing waaay too seriously. Yes indeed. It's best you skulk off and lick your wounds, but fret not 'cause there are still many left to pick up the slack, and they will continue your fine tradition of insulting and mocking anything resembling conservative opinion and beliefs.


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So I'm pretty much "gone", now. I pop in every couple of days but don't see much to post about and usually get turned off by the sheer volume of PN gross-out posts and there being little, if anything, else.

Yeah, PN. He posts as many "jew" items as you did Sarah Palin and Fox News items. Yes...very grossed out.


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Not willing to put in the time and energy to offer information for those who might be interested, mostly because it wouldn't make any difference anyway, never has, and there are plenty to express their opinions without needing me around.

Oh woe is you. "Angels and ministers of grace defend us."


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What little "good" news there ever is doesn't do much for me; this country has been headed in such an awful direction for so long, I no longer want to hear about it. Everyone who's even bothering to pay attention is so distracted by the faux drama created by the right that few, if any, are noticing that while the DOW is record high and corporations and the rich are getting frighteningly richer daily, everyone else's standard of living and wages are going steadily downhill. That's not going to change, and it makes me sick to my stomach.

So your intense jealousy of other people's success gives you a tummy ache? Have faith and take a slug of Mylanta. Obama's working hard to take it away from them....just hold out a bit longer.


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Scalia's remarks about voting being a "racial perogative" and the fact that the FUCKING supremes will probably do away with the Voting Rights Act was pretty much the final straw for me. I couldn't believe it and was devastated to learn about it, and what it says about my country and my government disgusts and sickens me to the point where I don't even want to know what's going on anymore.

Now you know how most people feel. What ever made you think you were above any of it?


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I'm ashamed and deeply saddened for my country.

That's just what Michelle Obama said...until her husband became President.


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Good wishes to all those sane, lovely people who remain, I really do miss you: Rap and Six and the rest of you assholes who ruin this place for whatever your asinine reasons are: go to hell.

Oh yeah, those 'assholes' who ruin this place! What does that really mean? Is it because they dare to disagree with you? God, the world and RWED would be just so perfect without AuRaptor and Rush Limbaugh...right? Fact is you're just a hard-core ideologue, and you're

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 9:56 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by Niki2:
My "enemies" can't touch me (this should all be good news for you, Rap: I won't be around to counter your deliberate ignorance anymore), but I let a few people here get close enough to me that one of them finally did.


Yeah...your "enemies". That's pretty psychotic in itself. There are no enemies here. There are Firefly fans who have differengt views of the world, that's all.




Thus the quotation marks, genius.

And then you get dumber from there. Bravo!



Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 10:35 PM


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What little "good" news there ever is doesn't do much for me; this country has been headed in such an awful direction for so long, I no longer want to hear about it. Everyone who's even bothering to pay attention is so distracted by the faux drama created by the right that few, if any, are noticing that while the DOW is record high and corporations and the rich are getting frighteningly richer daily, everyone else's standard of living and wages are going steadily downhill. That's not going to change, and it makes me sick to my stomach.




Yeah, this was pretty funny. The 'faux drama', created by the Right ? ROFLMAO !!!

What about the very long list of LIES uttered by this President, over the sequestration doom and gloom predictions ? From the FACT that it was his idea in the first place, to the childish, totally unnecessary canceling of WH tours to the public, all while the govt is running on 15 BILLION MORE DOLLARS THIS YEAR THAN LAST ???

There are no cuts. None We could all use with such 'cuts', where we get more money to spend than we did last year.

And the DOW ? The main reason it's going up is because we've printed over 80 Billion more dollars, just to bail Obama out of his mess. Thank you Ben Bernanke.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.


Excuse me while I soak in my swimming pool while sipping a fresh pina colada.

Just a beautiful sunny day here in Ft. Lauderdale today. Gonna grill up some steaks later.

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:19 PM

That's true, I haven't seen Frem in a while, I miss him too, but sometimes he takes breaks when he gets busy so I just thought he'd be back when he could.

I will miss you Niki, I like you even when we don't get on perfectly. I felt like a decent amount of time we could "meet in the middle" on things. I hope finishing up the medicine works out for you and that you're one of those lucky ones who can stay in remission without medicine since you're older, sometimes older people get to that place, I hope you're one of them. I'm sorry your and Frem's exchange hurt your feelings so very much. I think he just gets wound up sometimes when he's passionate about something. We all do really. You can always email me if you like. There's a little hole where you were here.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by RionaEire:

I will miss you Niki, There's a little hole where you were here.



Amen to that.

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Thursday, March 7, 2013 11:40 PM

Uh ... are you trying to be grotty in response to my sentiment? Hopefully not and you really will miss Niki.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Friday, March 8, 2013 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

And the DOW ? The main reason it's going up is because we've printed over 80 Billion more dollars, just to bail Obama out of his mess. Thank you Ben Bernanke.


My stocks have made me on paper almost a year's salary in just the last two months. I'm not waiting for the crash to come. Gonna sell them all and buy Chinese currency and noodle futures. The U.S. dollar is headed towards worthlessness.

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Friday, March 8, 2013 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

And the DOW ? The main reason it's going up is because we've printed over 80 Billion more dollars, just to bail Obama out of his mess. Thank you Ben Bernanke.


My stocks have made me on paper almost a year's salary in just the last two months. I'm not waiting for the crash to come. Gonna sell them all and buy Chinese currency and noodle futures. The U.S. dollar is headed towards worthlessness.



I'm guessing you're not using 6ixstringjack as your salary base example, huh?

( no offense meant )

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 8, 2013 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

And the DOW ? The main reason it's going up is because we've printed over 80 Billion more dollars, just to bail Obama out of his mess. Thank you Ben Bernanke.


My stocks have made me on paper almost a year's salary in just the last two months. I'm not waiting for the crash to come. Gonna sell them all and buy Chinese currency and noodle futures. The U.S. dollar is headed towards worthlessness.



I'm guessing you're not using 6ixstringjack as your salary base example, huh?

( no offense meant )



Well, I'm not rich enough to retire just yet, but my bar tab is more than Six's salary. Seriously, that Chinese noodle thing is a goldmine. I have a friend in Shanghai and he says the noodle factory is a great place to be nowhere doing nothing.

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Friday, March 8, 2013 2:20 AM

Wow, my response sure seems to have triggered Jong, doesn't it? Have no idea why it would be that important to him, but I'm glad it gave him something to focus his negative energy on, maybe it will spare someone in his real life a bit of unpleasantness.

Reading this thread brought a smile to my face; I could have written most of the nasty responses myself, they're so predictable. Also made me glad I'm not going to go back to posting; this place has becomes so overwhelmed by the ugly among us, it's not worth being here bothering to ignore them to find what positive energy there is.

And yes, Mark, of course you and most others got it, but I doubt Jong or Rap ever could. I have no "enemies" here, nobody here who hates me is that important to me, tho' some have certainly written as if they hate me with considerable virulence, Jong among them even tho' I made a sincere attempt to find common ground with him at one time. Sad to think someone can "speak" to another the way he does/they do, yet laugh at the idea anyone thinks they're considered an enemy. Gawd help their "friends", is all I can say.

For clarification, Frem didn't hurt my feelings deeply. We've communicated a lot in e-mail, so he wasn't just "another poster" to me, but when I realized he had hurt my feelings AT ALL, it was time to re-evaluate the situation. Those I respect, yes, I do care about their opinions. I'm glad I backed out, now; after a bit of time not being in the middle of it, it's easy to see the vicious voices are far more prevalent here than the intelligent ones who actually WANT to communicate, and most of the good voices are long gone.

Just popped in to say thank you for all the unexpected warmth in PM, I had no idea so many were out there lurking who I've been missing because they're not posting, or that anyone at ALL would bother missing me! To my friends--no quotes, because I do consider some here friends and by what I write they know who they are--I'd love to stay in touch and if you PM me I'll give you my e-mail. I would really like that. I replied to some who posted here privately, all I'll say publicly is thank you, Riona, for your kind thoughts.

What I see now, reading down the thread list, is really pathetic. It looks almost like the OB did before it was killed, spam after spam of PN's insanity, and little else. I miss the intelligent exchanges, but realize just how few opportunities there are for same and how long it's been since it was otherwise. Very sad; this was a lively, challenging place once, I'm glad I had the chance to experience it.

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Friday, March 8, 2013 7:17 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Good wishes to all those sane, lovely people who remain, I really do miss you: Rap and Six and the rest of you assholes who ruin this place for whatever your asinine reasons are: go to hell.




I hardly run this place girlfriend, but if it makes you feel any better, my best friend I made in this forum hates me because of our discourse.

At least you're still alive though, right?



EDITED TO ADD: Seems my friend is also missing. He's "REALLY" sick and lives with it everyday. I've kept my distance because I do what he says since he's lived in this shit-hole a lot longer than I have and I don't want to piss him off any more than I already have.

I float in and out of here, so I have no idea what "happenings" have occurred since the last post I found relevant, but I'd hate to think that a friendship was wasted because I said a callous word or two back in the day that you're going to prove to be true by disappearing and leaving some bad remarks in your wake....

Sure.... I called YOU a "CUNT" in the past.

Sorry, sister, but I've called GWB and Obama much worse.....

You don't have a monopoly on the bad words that Jack has called people before.

He just happened to strengthen your argument after the fact and lead to a 6 month hatred of me because of speaking my mind. Even I bought into it because even though you were being a major C-WORD, I felt bad when he came to your defense.

I'm sure that breaking my bond with him was a major victory on your part, but it's not my fault that you're so flappingly Liberal Kook on the other side that he told you to eat sand one day.

It just took him a lot longer to come around to the fact that you didn't know what you were talking about because I was dumb enough to call a Spkunt a Spkunt....

I'm sure if Obama was still on the rise you'd never relent now....

But you know that Bammy is just as bad, if not worse, for America that GWB was...

I called for GWB's impeachment as well...

Don't hate the playa... hate the game.....

The real reason you lose, and the real reason you back out of the RWED has ZERO to do with members here Niki....

It's the same reason I bowed out just before Obama was Prez.......



Anyway you look at it, YOU LOSE....

It's just too much for you and most mortals to take.....



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Friday, March 8, 2013 7:52 PM

Niki - I have definitely missed you! I do the same as you - check in once in a while to see if there's anything interesting. Without you to start threads, it's been a flood of PN garbage. I really have never seen anything redeeming in this guy. We need a PN board where all his threads go automatically so he doesn't take up the whole front page. Unfortunately, his crap, not to mention the twisted and well-pickled brains of Rap and Six (respectively) have driven most reasonable folks away from the board. It just gets old.

And yes - wow! - did Jong just go batty! (And Six too, but that's hardly surprising.) I wonder why these guys go batshit over you, Niki? I think it's because you're quite genuine and open about who you are. Some types take that as a weakness, a chance to attack. I'm glad it doesn't get to you.

I missed what happened between you and Frem. The gun debate was going no where pretty, and I bailed sooner than you. You can't have reasonable religion talk with god fanatics; you can't have reasonable gun talk with gun fanatics.

Anyway, take care, Nik. Glad to her you're doing good!

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Friday, March 8, 2013 7:57 PM

Tell me where I was wrong about guns.

You don't have an answer......

EDITED TO ADD: Likely, I've been a fan of FF before you were weened off your mama's titties.

If you're somehow a "veteran" to this entire idea, you definitely walked away with the wrong morals....



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Friday, March 8, 2013 8:12 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Tell me where I was wrong about guns.

You don't have an answer......

EDITED TO ADD: Likely, I've been a fan of FF before you were weened off your mama's titties.

If you're somehow a "veteran" to this entire idea, you definitely walked away with the wrong morals....






You get dumber by the day. Might as well down another 6-pack. Why slow down, right?




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, March 8, 2013 8:19 PM

Explain yourself SM....

My proclivities, and the fact that I do NOTHING to hide them for nothing from you or no others in the RWED make them mean nothing...

All I'm saying is that your fight here, using that arguement, is a strawman....

If anything, I relate more to anyone on anyone on any specrtum because I tell you EVERYTHING about not only my alcohol related proclivities, but of my weed and sex related and otherwise....

If anything..... One might be able to trust me more than anyone else here because I lay out who I am before everyone before and after making statements. I also have friends here who know me via email who know that I do not lie about who I am or what I do.




So, the question you, and anyone else here must ask yourselves about me if you are so inclined, is this.....

Am I more or less trustworthy because I readily and willingly spill all of my faults out for the world to see, completely unadulterated.....?



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Friday, March 8, 2013 9:12 PM

Wait, Riona? Something happened with you and Riona?

Tell ME! I demand the juiciest gossip, the biggest scoop!

I taste it from here, like ice cream or kitten tears.

EDIT: Oh. HIM. I am disappoint. :( I thought I'd stumbled upon something... SCANDALOUS.

Eh, I'm a bitchy cunt, those are just words, I'm pretty sure even Niki doesn't even care about that anymore.

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Friday, March 8, 2013 9:46 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Am I more or less trustworthy because I readily and willingly spill all of my faults out for the world to see, completely unadulterated.....?




No, it just makes no one want to listen to you. Believe me, I know - I spent a lot of time venting psychological issues on the board, though nothing remotely like the overshare you do.

I don't even bother anymore. You know why?

Because as it turns out, like how I was, you're the only one who cares who you are and what you think. When I realized that about me and all my conversations, I suddenly stopped caring about anything about me either, and so now I just troll the shit out of everyone and everything and myself in a flurry of self-liberation and devil-may-care fuck-it-all.

IT IS SO FUN. :D

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Friday, March 8, 2013 10:47 PM

Mal4, you are definitely among those I will miss the most, but like a good number of the other voices actually worth reading, yours hadn't been around a lot when I left. I haven't read any POSTS since then until now, the titles were quite sufficient to make me lose interest.

And yes, the PN thing sickens me and is one reason I'm not interested in returning. He truly does SLATHER the place, and one of the reasons I spent time looking for interesting issues to post was to offset that. Now, eh, it's turning more and more into a PN-Rap-Six free-for-all, which is even less interesting.

This thread continues to amuse, tho'. Think I may stay around until it peters out; being in only one thread takes no time, just pop in to see what's new, and eventually it will fade and I'll go with it.

Meanwhile, it is mildly amusing. First Jong doesn't comprehend the sarcasm/satire of quotation marks and goes off the rails with his vitriol toward me, now Six can't read the word "ruin" and mistakes it for me having said he "runs" RWED. Ahhh, the intellects...how I will miss them...NOT! ;o) Why do I get under their skin? Gawd only knows, and probably wouldn't care any more than do I, but I certainly seem to chap their stick, don't I? That was, I admit, one of the things that kept me hanging on; but while amusing, it's not healthy to spend that much time on, not when there's a whole world of so much finer things to focus on.

I didn't read further than his claim he doesn't "run" the place, but I did get a giggle out of the quote Mark posted. Dunno who the remarks from Six were aimed at, and not about to bother reading his actual posts, but found the last two sentences weird; somehow connecting how long one has admired Firefly with "morals" is just too convoluted to even wonder about...

And Byte, just so's you know, I always cared about what you think, as well as what the others here worth paying attention to think. I just never bought into your self-hatred and it always puzzled me why you were so adamant everyone else agree about it. But you're right on about Six and why few pay him any attention...the difference is, what you've had to say has ALWAYS been more interesting and far less self-involved than anything I read from him (back when I bothered to read). In all the years I've been on forums, I've never quite run into anyone so completely self-absorbed, it's pretty off-putting aside from anything else. You were NEVER in his league! ("Overshare"; I love it!)

I will say to Rap: I hugged the guys for you (we had a GREAT, frigid (!) run out in the redwoods this morning, they're happily crashed and probably didn't appreciate the hugs), and will always remember the curious "frenemy-ship" of someone who wrote with such incredible hatred for me around anything political, but with such civility and downright comradeship (sp?) around dogs, astronomy and just about everything that didn't in any way touch politics. Very weird. FYI: Please note I said "wrote with"--I doubt you ever cared enough to hate me, but your warped mindset around politics eschews nothing BUT hatred for all with whom you disagree. And your consistent choice of how you communicate with them can be described as nothing BUT incredible hatred.

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Friday, March 8, 2013 11:16 PM

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And Byte, just so's you know, I always cared about what you think, as well as what the others here worth paying attention to think. I just never bought into your self-hatred and it always puzzled me why you were so adamant everyone else agree about it.


Well... I guess it doesn't matter what people (or me) think about me anymore. Total irrelevance with everyone is better anyway, because then I can just play around with stuff. I can still try to change some things, but bigger picture I'm just like a single phytoplankton in the ocean fighting the current, so maybe my problem is I take things too seriously. And I take myself too seriously. What's the point of getting angry all the time and being worried all the time if it doesn't even DO anything?

So I'm fixing myself and it totally works and I only feel like I have ulcers occasionally now. World's just gonna do what it always does, no matter what happens. That's all there is to say about that.

I helped take a dog for a walk today. Nothing like your huskies. Overweight Chihuahua, my grandmother's been looking after her. Really all of us needed the walk so there you go.

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Saturday, March 9, 2013 12:30 AM

Yeah, this board has really deteriorated recently. I come here and scan the threads, but its mainly PN junk and Six talking about his pecadillos, and so I have nothing to say.

Glad things are looking up for you, Niki, in the RW and that your too busy to come here.

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Saturday, March 9, 2013 12:42 AM

I could start posting science stuff. I get a steady stream of various articles from a subscription to some magazines.

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Saturday, March 9, 2013 1:01 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:

I will say to Rap: I hugged the guys for you (we had a GREAT, frigid (!) run out in the redwoods this morning, they're happily crashed and probably didn't appreciate the hugs),...



I'm both very envious and happy, whether you believe it or not.

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... and will always remember the curious "frenemy-ship" of someone who wrote with such incredible hatred for me around anything political, but with such civility and downright comradeship (sp?) around dogs, astronomy and just about everything that didn't in any way touch politics. Very weird. FYI: Please note I said "wrote with"--I doubt you ever cared enough to hate me, but your warped mindset around politics eschews nothing BUT hatred for all with whom you disagree. And your consistent choice of how you communicate with them can be described as nothing BUT incredible hatred.




I could do a better job displaying my passion on certain topics, instead of having it viewed as 'hate'. I'll cede that much. But here's the thing... I absolutely loathe the concept of communism, socialism, or the degree of collectivism which is so prevalent on the Left. To put it simply, I see the whole "collective " mindset as a smothering , controlling force which crushes the human spirit. While the stated INTENTIONS may be noble, the means by which these goals are sought are anything but.

And I'll step off the soap box before I get rolling, but I just wanted to say, it's with that deep hatred, TRUE hatred for such things with which I was fueled in many of the areas where we butted heads.

To quote talk radio host Dennis Prager - " I prefer clarity to agreement ". I think it's an honest and very wise concept, because understanding how others see the world even if it doesn't win you over to their way of thinking, at least gives you some insight on their point of view.



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Saturday, March 9, 2013 5:21 AM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I could start posting science stuff. I get a steady stream of various articles from a subscription to some magazines.



Yeah, post science stuff. I'll come back if you post science stuff. :)

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Sunday, March 10, 2013 6:22 PM

This has just turned into a "poor Niki" thread.....

Will she be missed as somebody who had a different opinion; as somebody for the hard core righties to "fight against"..... ?

Sure she will.

That's not why she's leaving.

She's not telling the truth at all about why she's done (at least for the short term) with the RWED.

Of course I can't say for sure what the real reason is, but I would venture a guess that here we are... nearly 6 years later, and America is even worse than all of those promises of hope and change that garnered 2 votes out of her.

4 additional trillion dollars in US debt with nothing to show for it......

Further, she might simply not even have the "free time" to be an active member anymore because their family needs a 5-income household with only two contributing members just not to get foreclosed on....

I could be wrong about all of that, but all I can do is speak from experience. As cheap as I am, gas is nearly at an all time high in my area, food costs 175% more than it did when I had a good job, and I'm making way less than 1/4 of what I made in 2009 when you include benefits (of which I have zero today).

I'm sure glad the DOW is doing better than ever before and the unemployment rate isn't abysmal.

I guess that hasn't "trickled down" to the masses yet.....

Keep enjoying your helicopter rides to Broadway with your clueless wife and kids on my dime Bammy.

Thanks for raising the National Debt by 30% in only 6 years, in the mean time.....

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Monday, March 11, 2013 1:18 AM

Magons, another of those voices I will reeeely miss...if you and the other like you were around more, I'd be sorely tempted to stay...sigh... Or maybe, as Sky said, if there was more science stuff...or ANYTHING more interesting than what the thread list MOSTLY reads like today, and yesterday, and the day before, and, and, and...

For Rap: As a parting gift, I offer you a few husky "smilies". Of course I believe you're envious, and happy, and if we could completely avoid the subject of politics, you can believe I'd love to share the fun we have with you. Since I can't:

First, a shortened version of my new favorite trail, up on the Tam foothills. We run pre-dawn, so get to the halfway point at just around sun-up, and it's gorgeous. It's called Concrete Pipe Road because an old concrete water pipe runs under/along it; we hear the wild turkeys every day as we start up, and it's full of good sniffs and passing deer and a fearless, resident coyote, so it's the guys second-favorite run. It's between 40 minutes and an hour round trip, depending on how long we hang out at turn-around and how much I let them stop and sniff (and how warm it is = how fast they go!), but this is a condensed, 7-minute version so you can "come with" us. Both this one and the next, it's much darker than it appears, so maybe squint or wear sunglasses so you can 'feel' the pre-dawn light ;o) , and watch it full screen--that's the closest I can get to "giving" it to you:



THEIR favorite run is The Ponds, our series of four local water reclamation ponds (a favorite place for birdwatchers). There we often see one of the local coyotes, as well as occasionally deer, raccoons, dkunk (who ran in front of us once before dawn, causing me two broken toes!) rabbits and the cows in the pasture of the farm next door (which twice they slipped loose and 'played' with while I slogged through the mud behind them waiting for them to get tired...!). That's the place they think is exciting. THERE they go like balls of fire all the way out to the marsh. I'm gonna re-do the video, I've got a new videocam and am just learning how to work the software, but it's good enough for you to come along with--about 7 minutes of a 45-minute run:



This one is from this morning's run. The Northbay group runs at 8am (which is 9am this morning, with daylight savings). WE usually run half an hour or so before sunup. My guys did fine the first couple of runs with the Northbay group 'cuz the weather was COLD, but today they were embarrassing--they consider it too late and too warm, so tho' they started out on fire, they quickly refused to keep up, and at the end as you can see even with Jim ahead of us on his bike, they lagged behind HIM! Nothing would make Koch go any faster, tho' Tashi was willing, so I had to apologize for holding up the others. Damned huskies. Guess I'll meet up with them and learn new trails that way, then to back at our usual (pre-sunrise) time with Jim. Bah. Huskies!



Tho' it's only a half hour North, it becomes "cow country", small farms, suburban farmlets and ranches, verrrry flat! Very pretty too, lots of horses, cows, vineyards, farms...it's between a half hour and an hour's drive to the trailheads, so it costs some gas, but we only go on weekends--otherwise we'd be in rush-hour traffic going home.

And as a parting shot, here's a couple of giggles for you. This is how the guys greet Jim when he gets back from his morning run/bike ride...Tashi takes his "beard cleaning duties" very seriously, as you can see. (Notice the narrow section of bed which "belongs" to Jim; yes, that IS where he sleeps, and only there--when they don't push him completely off

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Monday, March 11, 2013 1:19 AM

Lastly, is Six just ALWAYS that drunk, or what?! This guy thinks he knows me?? I love being called a liar by some tanked asshole who doesn't know shit about SHIT...but I guess I should expect no better. Actually bothered to read the post--silly me--what a loser! But he did actually manage to get my goat enough for me to say the following:

My leaving has nothing to do with any "failure" on the part of the people I voted for. I know full well they've done what they can, and I know exactly what kind of shape we'd be in if the fucking Republicans weren't absolutely, patently, and OPENLY bound and determined to run this country into the ground in the hopes of regaining power, after they spent eight years running it into the ground by mismanagement and an agenda to get as much as possible to the rich and corporate interests while screwing over the rest of us. We're in the state were in DESPITE the left, not because of them, and anyone with half a brain who's been paying attention knows it. Ironically, they HAVE managed to keep us from where we'd be if McCain or Romney had gained power, and there's hope yet, given they're working so hard at becoming unelectable, that we can still dig our way completely out of the hole they put us in. My lack of hope is because of the continuing inability by those in power to stop the right-wing fringe tea baggers and their grab for power in the Republican party; even the intelligent Republicans haven't been able to stop what they're doing to this country (little as they've tried) and it will only get worse as time goes on.

Jim and I are just dandy compared to the vast majority of the country. We worked hard and were pretty lucky. We own our own home and everything we have free and clear, and if we added up everything we've got in retirement, savings and the bank, would probably be up around a quarter of a million dollars; I will say that just once. We live cheaply, we don't want much, and we appreciate what we have; and even with that, we'll only be okay if nothing horrific happens and things don't get horrendously worse amazingly fast. Thank gawd we're as old as we are. WE'll probably be fine; it's the rest of my countrymen I weep for, those coming after who will be reaping the whirlwind of global warming and what people like Rap and Jong and Geez want to see happen to this country.

Yeah, he got my goat just that much; from what I've seen of him thus far, that should give Six immeasurable pleasure. I've never figured out why he wants attention from me so badly and I think he's some kind of freak for it bothering him so much that I don't think he's worth ANYONE's attention. So no, it's sure as hell not a "poor Niki" thread, it's quite the opposite. I've got life damned good and I know it and am grateful as hell for it, I'm not like Six, slathering some fan site anonymously with self-pity and self-aggrandizing twaddle. Drunks are pathetic; some drunks are more pathetic than others. This brainless dipsomaniac has absolutely no excuse.

And with that, I will bid you adieu, leave the rest of you to get whatever you can out of this place, and hopefully not return.

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Monday, March 11, 2013 2:24 AM

Hey Niki,

It's getting late and I'm fading, so what could be a longer post will boil down to a few things:

1. Your dogs are ADORABLE! I'm 100% a cat person, but I do enjoy seeing happy dogs out and about, busy being happy dogs. Yours certainly are!

2. I know we all get caught up with the odd inconveniences of life, and I know you have as much as anyone, but I hope you appreciate how cool it is that your life involves taking dog-cart rides in a beautiful place at sunrise. I think it's pretty awesome.

3. Oh, Six. Six is just being Six. Still, I have no problem with you giving him a virtual punch in the nose for being a jackass, since ignoring these types clearly does not make them go away.

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Monday, March 11, 2013 3:13 AM

First, as I've said, what I do here, what I 'show' of myself, is only a small part of who I am. It's false to claim that " all I have " is hate. We disagree, on some matters. Sometimes strongly. But not always. But there are times when agreements and compromise can be made. But not always. The NAZIS didn't 'sorta' start a world war. Slavery isn't a 'gray' area, is it ?

Not everything is a shade of gray. There are rights and wrongs. Some things are either black or white.

The Vids are great. I'll watch them , but not all at once, so there's something to look forward to , for a while, every time I come here.

Thanks.




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Monday, March 11, 2013 4:09 AM

I too, am one that, although never posted that much, have decided to distance myself from the PN thread hijack. Every time I log in here, it is just line after line of PirateNews bollocks. And I just can't be doing with it. Hi Nicki, by the way. And Bye.
Congrats to PN for ruining the site, and shame on the man in charge for doing absolutely nothing about it. A great site that has just become a waste of time. See ya.

With the grace of age, commander, we learn to accept.

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Monday, March 11, 2013 1:36 PM

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The NAZIS didn't 'sorta' start a world war.


Well even I'll admit it was either the Nazis or the Japanese, and they were kind of on the same side even though they were totally going to backstab each other for world domination later.

I guess it depends on if you count the under the radar skirmishes we were having with the Japanese for years before pearl harbour, or if only the invasion of Poland counts.

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Slavery isn't a 'gray' area, is it ?


Shit no.

Although I do wish there was less of a grey area around here in regards to genocide, civilian death, and blowing up planets. I've seen people take the Empire's side, and lemee tell you, after seeing artist conceptions of Alderaan, I'm pretty sure that the Empire is the biggest bunch of jerkasses this side of the Yuuzhan Vong.


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Monday, March 11, 2013 4:33 PM

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Although I do wish there was less of a grey area around here in regards to genocide, civilian death, and blowing up planets.



You gotta draw a black and white line at genocide. You just gotta.

I'm pretty tolerant and understanding of most positions. But sometimes, evil is just evil.


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Monday, March 11, 2013 7:01 PM

Will be responding in PM from here on, don't want to drag this thread out any longer. I've said all I have to say.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:38 AM

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First, as I've said, what I do here, what I 'show' of myself, is only a small part of who I am.
Well, I've seen your posts in other forums, and thank god you don't show your really racist side here!

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Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:08 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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First, as I've said, what I do here, what I 'show' of myself, is only a small part of who I am.
Well, I've seen your posts in other forums, and thank god you don't show your really racist side here!



No, you really haven't. Because no such posts even exist.

You clearly have me confused with someone else.

Would be nice if you backed up your imaginary widdle claim, but we both know you can't.



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Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:39 AM

Believe it or not the amount of PN threads doesn't bother me. Most of them are obnoxious, a lot of them are boring to me and occasionally he posts something that has a point/is relevent or interesting. I have the power to respond or not, and I have the power to read or not. So I can choose what _I want to do and how much of that PN stuff to expose myself to, I have the power. So it doesn't really concern me all that much. I think that the more people are here the more interesting the place is, as a general rule.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:24 PM

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Believe it or not the amount of PN threads doesn't bother me. Most of them are obnoxious, a lot of them are boring to me and occasionally he posts something that has a point/is relevent or interesting. I have the power to respond or not, and I have the power to read or not. So I can choose what _I want to do and how much of that PN stuff to expose myself to, I have the power. So it doesn't really concern me all that much. I think that the more people are here the more interesting the place is, as a general rule.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya



This is the only board on which I post where there is no moderator, of any kind, at all. 99% of what PN posts would be zapped on sight, and he'd likely be banned a long, long time ago.

But not here.

It is what it is.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:59 PM

In my experience, it's when boards get moderators that they go downhill. Because some faction always starts to play favourites, and another mod goes power crazy with banning people the moment someone speaks against them.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:22 PM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
In my experience, it's when boards get moderators that they go downhill. Because some faction always starts to play favourites, and another mod goes power crazy with banning people the moment someone speaks against them.



Then I've been lucky. The other forums I frequent don't have such power mad mods, and I've been posting on them longer than here. They're a bit more family friendly, and a time or two, I've been wrist slapped, but not unjustly. Never had a warning or been censured. But to each their own. We choose to visit here, or not. As Riona says , just ignore what ya don't like.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:29 PM

Hopefully my last post ever in RWED. Over the past few days, I've heard from almost ALL the voices I have respected and enjoyed in my time here (!), whether those of you who were kind enough to respond to my post here or those of you who contacted me privately. It's been a bit of a shock; I really thought most of you were gone for good--which serves me right in some cases for not hanging out anywhere but RWED.

It's been kinda painful to hear from people, to know they're still "out there" when I thought they were long gone, but at the same time to know the only way to stay in touch is to return to RWED, which I really don't want to do. So this morning I made a decision, which I may regret...or not. I'm moving to Talk Story. I'm probably going to post mostly videos and talk about my dogs, since they are a large focus in my life, as well as hoping that some "real world events" are kosher to discuss over there, and I am going to do everything in my power to avoid EVER talking about politics. Maybe I'll see some of you there...I sure hope I do, as the opportunity to stay in touch and enjoy your company does mean a lot to me. My worry is that even there I won't be able to avoid the nastiness I've become accustomed to here, but it's a chance I'm willing to take.

As an aside; I've been on forums of both kinds, some where the Monitor Problem has been just as described, others where monitoring has been a godsend and never gotten in the way. I wish this place were the latter, but as has been said, it is what it is. Being a big believer in "all things in moderation", I long wished there was moderate moderating here, but that's neither here nor there.

So anyone sick of what RWED has become (and interestingly, virtually everyone who posted/PM'd me has expressed feelings almost identical to mine where that's concerned), I'd sure love to join you over there, on any subject you wish (EXCEPT politics!). I hope the rest of you enjoy what RWED has become for as long as it gives you whatever it is you're looking for.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:36 PM

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I long wished there was moderate moderating here, but that's neither here nor there.


...Wait that uh can't what?

TRAUMATIC FLASHBACKS

noooooooooo

(I will see you on talk story then)

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Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:22 PM

I've liked the no moderator thing, because I know what Byte means, they get in the way because there is no such thing as a completely unbiassed person, even people who are well rounded and like to stay out of others' business can become a little power mad or let their personal feelings interfere with their moderating duties. I like not having a moderator.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:14 AM


I don't think it's too much to ask for folks to be made to back up their claims when bearing false witness against another. Most effective board w/ rules against such things aren't too unreasonable.

What we have here are simpletons who can't debate issues, so they accuse others of being all sorts of vile and ugly things.

That sort of nonsense wouldn't be tolerated on most boards.


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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:11 AM

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I like not having a moderator.

Me too. Says the anarchist.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:02 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I don't think it's too much to ask for folks to be made to back up their claims when bearing false witness against another. Most effective board w/ rules against such things aren't too unreasonable.

What we have here are simpletons who can't debate issues, so they accuse others of being all sorts of vile and ugly things.

That sort of nonsense wouldn't be tolerated on most boards.





...Have you SEEN the internet? This place is downright tame in comparison to most other boards.

I mean holy shit man, I was receiving death threats by email and sexual harrassment on other boards by the time I was twelve. Fireflyfans is on the warm and fuzzy end of the spectrum, trust me.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:23 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Hopefully my last post ever in RWED.


Finally. This has been the longest fracking 'goodbye' thread ever.

Here's my take, since I've been here for about ten years. I was here during the Iraq debate, the 2004 election debate, the Katrina debate, the Iraq debate, the Afgan debate, the Olympic debate, the stock market debate, the housing debate, the Iraq debate, the 2006 election debate, the Nazi-Queen Death Squad debate, the 'why FOX sucks' debate, the debate debate, the 'stop being mean' debate, the 'I'm not being mean' debate, the 'I'm leaving cause your all mean' debate, the Iraq debate, the dead soldiers debate, the bad cops debate, the good cops debate, the 'shot my face' debate, the Housing debate, the bailout debate, the Iraq debate, the other bailout debate, the 2008 election debate, the 'where was he born' debate, the gun debate, the Afgan debate, the Iraq debate, the movie debate, healthcare debate, the Tea Party party debate, the Glenn Beck debate, the terrorist trials debate, the Occupy sing-along debate, the Iraq debate, the 2010 election debate...etc, and so forth.

People come and go. The quality of the discussions waxes and wanes. PN is always an idiot who thinks the Queen is a Nazi and uses contrails and the Tennessee Highway Patrol to kill people. People will say mean things. People will say smart things. People will come and people will go. With the exception of PirateNews, nobody here has a gun to their head forcing them to participate. Part of free speech is the right to not speak or to come and go as you please.

This is a forum to discuss the issues of the day with people who don't always agree with you and are not always nice about it (kinda like Congress only without the ability to spend money we don't have on programs we don't need).

If that's something you want, come on in...otherwise, have a nice day.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:46 PM

Usually I leave in a snit and then come back like a week later. My current record is two entire months.

I've made threads where I've said I wouldn't be posting as much but then pretty much don't keep to that.

However, I don't make leaving threads. I don't fully understand drawing attention to yourself right when you decide you want to leave, as it gives you a reason to come back and check the responses. Then the leaving thing doesn't actually stick.

I guess it gives people a chance to air grievances if they want to, but that also is not something I understand. It's not like you can really get the last word in unless no one even responds to your post (SAD) and it's not like they're going to change how they act based on something you said before leaving. And posting a long insulting rant at people will just cause them to remember you negatively - especially pointless if the rant is about something like being temp-banned by a mod, as that's basically shooting yourself in the foot and giving credit to the mod's action banning you.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:52 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Hopefully my last post ever in RWED.


Finally. This has been the longest fracking 'goodbye' thread ever.


LOL! Longest indeed. Longer than a list of Zsa Zsa's husbands. Longer than a Charo episode of Love Boat. Even longer than the announcement of Generalissimo Francisco Franco's death.

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Here's my take, since I've been here for about ten years. I was here during the Iraq debate, the 2004 election debate, the Katrina debate, the Iraq debate, the Afgan debate, the Olympic debate, the stock market debate, the housing debate, the Iraq debate, the 2006 election debate, the Nazi-Queen Death Squad debate, the 'why FOX sucks' debate, the debate debate, the 'stop being mean' debate, the 'I'm not being mean' debate, the 'I'm leaving cause your all mean' debate, the Iraq debate, the dead soldiers debate, the bad cops debate, the good cops debate, the 'shot my face' debate, the Housing debate, the bailout debate, the Iraq debate, the other bailout debate, the 2008 election debate, the 'where was he born' debate, the gun debate, the Afgan debate, the Iraq debate, the movie debate, healthcare debate, the Tea Party party debate, the Glenn Beck debate, the terrorist trials debate, the Occupy sing-along debate, the Iraq debate, the 2010 election debate...etc, and so forth.

People come and go. The quality of the discussions waxes and wanes. PN is always an idiot who thinks the Queen is a Nazi and uses contrails and the Tennessee Highway Patrol to kill people. People will say mean things. People will say smart things. People will come and people will go. With the exception of PirateNews, nobody here has a gun to their head forcing them to participate. Part of free speech is the right to not speak or to come and go as you please.

This is a forum to discuss the issues of the day with people who don't always agree with you and are not always nice about it (kinda like Congress only without the ability to spend money we don't have on programs we don't need).

If that's something you want, come on in...otherwise, have a nice day.


I've been here during most of that, since 2006. It was usually a bloodbath back then between liberals and conservatives, and there were lots of people posting regularly. That's all mostly gone away now.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:12 PM

Nah, it's not generational. I've seen forty-year-olds be total drama queens dropping the leaving threads every which way. Whereas I'm a young millenial who thinks facebook and other social networking programs are self-indulgent.

Still don't understand leaving threads - if you care enough about someone that they might worry about you, then you probably already have their email.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:15 PM

You jerkwads (meaning Hero and Jong, not Byte, who is not being a jerk about it) may note that this was not a goodbye thread, nor was it started by Niki. It was started by someone who likes her and missed her, as many of us do, and wanted to hear what she's up to. So she told us, and kept replying when we kept talking to her.

The actual point of the thread is quite clear by the title. Duh! If you are not interested in knowing where Niki is, don't read the thread. Certainly, don't read the thread then waste your precious time writing posts to bitch about it.

As for Rap whining about the poor quality of unmoderated posts: that is waaaaay too funny! You know, there was a poster on the original fivethirtyeight who I swear was the Rap with a different name. He went on about all the same crap in the same way - the Right must always right, liberals must always be wrong, and all because he said so with no evidence and would someone please please please fight with him over it so he could feel important? Then the blog got picked up by the New York Times, which means it got moderated. This schmoe almost completely disappeared for a long time. Now a few occasional posts get through with a whole different and suddenly more mature and logical tone. So I know it wasn't Rappy, because there's been no such growth here!

Not that I want this site moderated, on a post by post basis. But some posters earn special treatment - like Kaneman, who got who an "offensive" tag or whatever it was. And I remember when some teenager started posting stupid pictures and generally trolling. Haken shut out the IP (and I think notified the parents or something?). I think PN earns some special treatment when he starts a ton of trashy useless threads all at once and clogs up the board.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:50 PM

I am disappointed whenever someone is called a jerkwad and I am not included. I must not be trying hard enough.

As a side note:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/TheGrandListOfForumAn
dCommunityLaws


"Inherent Savagery Postulate:

When a previously unregulated community starts enforcing positive posts, this means it has begun its decline. If it elects to enforce negativity instead, it can burn like a merry hell-pit for years on end."

So I don't want mods here... Unless they're troll mods.

I suspect no one else actually wants mods either, because... That doesn't make sense to me? And who'd even WANT to do that here? What an awful chore.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:20 PM


Piz, I subvert that simply by talking to people online the exact same way I would were I in the room with them in person, only they can't throw stuff at me save metaphorically...
And I ain't much for social courtesies simply cause I have never considered myself part of any society, and tend to view people as individuals rather than a collective, save when they self-identify with a collective even over their own sentience, at which part I kinda stop considering them people at all.

Hell, I just recently had prettymuch the same kind of hard break over personal values with someone offline who I've known for twenty and some years, and it went just the same in person, really.
I won't say it don't bother me, but it bugs me a hell of a lot less than trying to find tolerance for things I find intolerable, in the case above that being racism.

-F

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:42 PM

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That's what I was trying to say jerkwad


!

<3

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we observe simple courtesies more often even though they don't seem to apply in forums, "You said goodbye? Why? Weird."


If something's going on with me and I'll be AFK a while, I send emails to people who might actually care.

Imagine me posting the same "I'm going for a drive and I might DIE, hope to hear from you again soon" emails I always send out to my internet friends on a message board like this one. I mean people already think I'm an attention whore, you want it to be that much worse?

...Actually maybe I should totally post those messages here. Maybe I can start a thing where the accepted response back is "hope the paramedics are on standby" or maybe a cheerful "burn in hell!"

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:16 PM

Mal
- I never " whined " about any such thing. I merely made mention , and nothing more. Seems you're incapable of distinguishing 'tween the two. Seems you have other issues at work.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:27 PM

Okay, so I am weak of willpower: Thank you, Mal4...what she said, idjits! In case you missed it,

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You jerkwads (meaning Hero and Jong, not Byte, who is not being a jerk about it) may note that this was not a goodbye thread, nor was it started by Niki. It was started by someone who likes her and missed her, as many of us do, and wanted to hear what she's up to. So she told us, and kept replying when we kept talking to her.

The actual point of the thread is quite clear by the title. Duh! If you are not interested in knowing where Niki is, don't read the thread. Certainly, don't read the thread then waste your precious time writing posts to bitch about it.


Ditto, in spades. I deliberately did NOT start a "goodbye thread" because I had no desire TO call attention to the fact that I had left; I responded when Riona asked and I've REPLIED to posts directed at me since. Period.

Gawd, I sure do seem to "scratch" you assholes in your "itchy places", don't I? I wonder what it is you find so important about me or things having to do with me that make you want to write long screeds about how much you hate me? Funnier than hell, that!

Personally, I'd be quite happy if this thread died of natural causes. Question has been answered on my part at least--tho' I personally would like to hear from Anthony--so "end of story", y'know? I'm over in Talk Story and will remain there, and hey Jong/Geez/Hero/Other Idiots Who Want To Rant About Niki: YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ ABOUT IT IF IT PISSES YOU OFF, y'know?

Have fun. ;o)

ETA: I too have wondered about Anthony for quite some time. I see he cannot be PM'd, which I'm guessing means he's left the site completely. I have e-mailed him; will let you know if I hear back. I miss him.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:54 PM

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I'm over in Talk Story and will remain there, and hey Jong/Geez/Hero/Other Idiots Who Want To Rant About Niki: YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ ABOUT IT IF IT PISSES YOU OFF, y'know?


Who's Niki?

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:38 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
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I'm over in Talk Story and will remain there, and hey Jong/Geez/Hero/Other Idiots Who Want To Rant About Niki: YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ ABOUT IT IF IT PISSES YOU OFF, y'know?


Who's Niki?

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012


Too bad poor little Niki can't just go away with an ounce of dignity. Like an aging prima ballerina she just can't leave her adoring fans without 25 self-indulgent curtain calls. And like a petulant child she storms off again and again doing her tired and pathetic Jerry Maguire mea culpa, reminding us all how we and RWED are nothing without her brilliance. Act three is calling me and others idiots and assholes. Perhaps one day her highness will actually shut up as she keeps promising and promising. But I doubt it. She can't stay away.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:48 PM

Our beloved JFK was so much further to the left than either of these hooligans we've been dealing with for going on 16 years Niki......

Glad you're one of the few that actually has a paid for house. I'm so excited. We should be best friendzies because of that and not public frenimies.... You're such a fierce bitch!

Furthermore, I'm glad that you and hubbs can cash out and (so long as the US currency doesn't disappear year over year like Zimbabwe's currency), you should be able to live frugally in comfort for the rest of your life as long as you have "real" health insurance and not the government variety "everyone" is getting next year.

Your kids are screwed though....

Your inheritance to them doesn't matter....

50% will be taken for inheritance tax, and every year it's worth 10% less regardless of the ridiculous "polls" that show us still at the average 4% loss of wealth every year to the thousands of federal Democratic "feel good" programs.

I'll just back away now and say that you wanted to leave on your own accord for whatever personal reasons you had.

If you want to ever keep up the argument in a private space, PM me.

I know you're not "done here" for the reasons you said....

You're leaving on Obama's way out for the same reason that I left on Obama's way in.....

It had nothing to do with him being black, or democratic, or even the far-fetched possibilty he was an alien Jew born from immaculate conception on Keynan soil and smuggled to bum-fuck Illinois to be raised as an American.....

YOU all didn't do your homework. YOU all voted in a politician from either side from the most corrupt county in the most corrupt state in the union to represent the country....... TWICE!!!!!

Lincoln was a long time ago......

I'm quite sure he's turning in his grave because this is really the first black president we voted into office.....



Anyway......

I won't say goodbye Niki.

I'll just leave it at... live well, and I'll see you next post......

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:11 PM

Just havin' some fun w/ this...





Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:45 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just havin' some fun w/ this...

]



Loved the Crue back in the day. Here's another of similar theme




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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:56 PM

Another one





And still another


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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:04 PM

I'd put up smokin the boys room, but we weren't EVER allowed to do that when I went to school.

Hell... to me, given the times, sounds like an advertizement for glory hole play.



Go on with your bad selves though. Seriously, no judgement from me. I thought Vanilla Ice was bad ass when I was that age. When I was in HS, that familiar beat came on the radio while I was working out and I was about to bust some 6th grade rhymes while working out but instead I heard this "Under Pressure" nonsense?????

I think more than one of you might be happy to know that I've become a big Bowie fan....

The ironic thing is that I think "Under Pressure" is my favorite song by him today (well and Queen... whoever they are ).



So much better than Vanilla Ice........ Even he hates that song now lol....



Really though, this is probably my favorite song my him though....



Young American...... Can't blame them, right?

Don't ask David that question.......



Although his song with NIN was well before the Mellinium, and though it sounds MUCH different to the naked ear, i'm sure there's one or two people here who are fans of TRUE music who could explain the similarites in "notes" between "Young Americans" and "I'm Afraid of Americans"....

BTW... on the off chance that any kids troll around here, both of these songs pre-dated the untimely detonation of the Twin Towers.







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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:16 PM

Classic songs of departure and heartbreak.


























* And this is my personal dedication for our goodbye girl...



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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:23 PM

This is not the forum you're looking for.....

What's wrong Niki?

Did you spend all of those Karma chips you built up against me already?

Sad that I'm still here?

From your post, I think you'd be much more comfortable posting with the tweens at Disney.



In the mean time, thanks "Haken" for letting us post what we want, although I realize it's all being recorded and we'll all supposedly pay for our "thought crime" one day.

I'll be long dead of lung cancer, or my newly discovered massive Hypertension condition well before that happens.

It does my failing heart good to know that Niki will continue to preach the "good word" to a whole generation of non-understanding/non-responsive teens in my absence.

Keep fighting the good fight Niki.














BTW........... JONGSSTRAW

I always LOVED Runaway..... I'll have to listen to the rest of your songs you posted.

Made me think of Under the Boardwalk. (don't take offence, if it's not at all the same to you...)

Just another great song well behind my time that I love.





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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:31 PM

Oh, 1 more...



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:40 PM

You're in the wrong generation there Rap......

Thought you'd know that since I always assumed your expiration date was 20 years before mine (no offense)

In the spirit of great music that came and went before I was born, I'd like to dedicate this song to current President Obama and his wing-man GWBush....

Way to jump on the grenade for your homie there George...


As for what we're left with... I think this song perfectly sums up the last nearly 16 years of Presidential "oversight"....



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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:49 PM

Wrong generation? What the hell you talkin' bout ? To paraphrase Gandalf, I'm in exactly the generation I mean to be.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:58 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

BTW........... JONGSSTRAW

I always LOVED Runaway..... I'll have to listen to the rest of your songs you posted.

Made me think of Under the Boardwalk. (don't take offence, if it's not at all the same to you...)

Just another great song well behind my time that I love.



I was a big fan of the Motown groups like The Supremes, The Temptations, Marvin Gaye, etc. etc. My favorite album back then was The Four Tops Greatest Hits.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:58 PM

Rock on with your bad self then

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:03 PM



I am so beyond disappointment now. I think it's almost back to hilarious.

Tight pants, unkempt hair, and beaten t-shirts. You are the man Jack.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:43 PM

I loved G's idea about how we're charactors who write their own dialogue, that is the cleverest thing I've seen in a while, and it totally makes sense!

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:54 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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First, as I've said, what I do here, what I 'show' of myself, is only a small part of who I am.
Well, I've seen your posts in other forums, and thank god you don't show your really racist side here!



No, you really haven't. Because no such posts even exist.

You clearly have me confused with someone else.

Would be nice if you backed up your imaginary widdle claim, but we both know you can't.




Odd. I see Sig posting here, but some how, not replying to this particular thread.


I wonder why.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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KPO
Friday, March 15, 2013 11:59 PM

I've missed you Niki, and I'm sad to hear that I'm going to continue to miss you All the best though.

Just watched one of your beautiful vids. Awesome.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:36 AM

Niki, since you left the board has been one, long, right-wing troll-post!

Keep the faith. Stop by once in a while, willya?

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Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:18 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Niki, since you left the board has been one, long, right-wing troll-post!

Keep the faith. Stop by once in a while, willya?



Actually, there's been some healthy dialogue and actual exchange of sane, rational view points.

Niki isn't 'gone', as she said she'd be popping in, from time to time. But she can be found over in Talk Story, as I understand it, so good grief... enough with the silly wake mentality here.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:07 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Niki isn't 'gone', as she said she'd be popping in, from time to time. But she can be found over in Talk Story, as I understand it, so good grief... enough with the silly wake mentality here.



Don't cry for her AuRaptina
The truth is she never left you
All through her wild daze
Her mad existence
She'll break her promise
So keep your distance

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Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Niki, since you left the board has been one, long, right-wing troll-post!

Keep the faith.



Troll baby troll, trollin'!

To my surprise, a hundred stories lie
People gettin' loose y'all
Gettin' down on the truth, did you hear?
The folks were screamin', out of control
So entertainin', when the bullshit started to flow
I heard somebody say

Troll baby troll, RWED inferno!
Troll baby troll, burn that poster down
Troll baby troll, RWED inferno!
Troll baby troll, burn that poster down
Trollin'!

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Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:55 PM

KPO, I got your PM, checked back here and found your post. Thanx so much--you are yet ANOTHER of those voices I've so missed...kind of a bummer to find how very many of you are still out there that I've been missing for so long, and it took this thread to find out you were still there. Makes me very sad, but also encourages me that you and the others ARE still around, so maybe you'll pipe in now and again. I really miss you.

And yeah, Rap is right, I'm still around...more than I have been, actually, since all you good voices keep popping up! I'm over in Talk Story, and will probably get weak-willed and return to RWED eventually; knowing you guys are out there makes me want to coax you back IN, probably stupidly in the hopes we could get some discussions going again....sigh... I hate that this place has been taken over so much...

Yeah, Sig, it's funnier than hell, they keep complaining yet for the most part THEIR POSTS are the ones keeping it going...makes me giggle. Hey, as long as they're enjoying themselves, my work here is done! ;o)


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Monday, March 18, 2013 7:58 PM

Whatever fibs you need to tell yourself to keep flying Niki....

Glad you're still around.... :)

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Monday, March 18, 2013 8:59 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Whatever fibs you need to tell yourself to keep flying Niki....

Glad you're still around.... :)




I was wondering why you're so hung up on this - then I realized, it must really get under your skin that when big bad Nikki dissapeared, people actually payed attention, and friend or enemy - they care (some wanting her to stay, others imploring her to stay away).

Whereas when you vanish for a spell - no one notices or gives even a tiny shit.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, March 18, 2013 9:05 PM

Yeah... maybe....

A "spell" for me was nearly 4 years though.....

Seems that Niki has already come back after like two weeks of "never coming back again".....

To each his/her own....

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Monday, March 18, 2013 9:10 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah... maybe....

A "spell" for me was nearly 4 years though.....




Really?

I

Didin't

Notice.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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