Missing Malaysian Airline flight.

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AURAPTOR

Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:09 PM

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KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - Military radar indicates that the missing Boeing 777 jet may have turned back before vanishing, Malaysia's air force chief said Sunday as authorities were investigating up to four passengers with suspicious identifications.

Air force chief Rodzali Daud didn't say which direction the plane veered when it apparently went off course, or how long it flew in that direction.

The revelations add to the uncertainties surrounding the final minutes of flight MH370, which was carrying 239 people when it lost contact with ground controllers somewhere between Malaysia and Vietnam after leaving Kuala Lumpur early Saturday morning for Beijing.

A massive international sea search has so far turned up no trace of the plane, which lost contact with the ground when the weather was fine, the plane was already cruising and the pilots didn't send a distress signal - unusual circumstance for a modern jetliner operated by a professional airline to crash.

To date, no debris field has been found.

Two of the passengers were carrying stolen passports also raised the unsettling possibility of foul play.

No call for help or distress signal was received.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, March 9, 2014 11:33 PM

Update: Malaysia Airlines missing jet: object in water might be plane's door

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-missing-jet-object-in-w
ater-might-be-plane-s-door-1.2565649

Curious. An actual real world event, the mysterious disappearance of an airliner , and no replies ?

Really?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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GEEZER

Monday, March 10, 2014 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Curious. An actual real world event, the mysterious disappearance of an airliner , and no replies ?

Really?

If they can't blame it on Bush, who cares?

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

AURAPTOR

Monday, March 10, 2014 12:10 AM

Still early on in the investigation. Not real sure what will be found, and when. Boeing 777's generally don't just fall out of the sky on their own. And no distress call...

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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OONJERAH

Monday, March 10, 2014 9:42 AM

I suspect highjack AtM.

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1KIKI

Monday, March 10, 2014 9:58 AM

What's there to comment on? It's a shame ... and?

Or are we supposed to get all googly-eyed and crazy over NO CURRENT INFORMATION, like you?

AURAPTOR

Monday, March 10, 2014 4:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
What's there to comment on? It's a shame ... and?

Or are we supposed to get all googly-eyed and crazy over NO CURRENT INFORMATION, like you?

239 people perished, and no one is sure what happened.

That doesn't happen every day.

If you have to ask why should you care, then I can't tell you.

It's a real world event. Ignore it, if you wish.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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OONJERAH

Monday, March 10, 2014 4:57 PM

How do you know they perished? Any corpses?

REAVERFAN

Monday, March 10, 2014 5:26 PM

It's easy to speculate. Until there's real evidence, that's all you're doing.

AURAPTOR

Monday, March 10, 2014 5:55 PM

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:

How do you know they perished? Any corpses?

Last time an airliner went missing for a few days & there was no great loss of life?

I know there have been tv shows on such, but irl ?

I'd love to be wrong on this.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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SECOND

Monday, March 10, 2014 5:59 PM

There is precedent for a modern jetliner to fall from the sky while "in the cruise" and lay hidden for months. On June 1, 2009, Air France flight 447 was en route from Rio De Janeiro to Paris' Charles de Gaulle International Airport when communications ended suddenly from the Airbus A330, another state-of-the-art aircraft. www.cnn.com/2012/07/05/world/europe/france-air-crash-report/index.html

When ice crystals blocked the plane's pitot tubes, which are part of a system used to determine air speed, the autopilot disconnected and the pilots did not correctly react to what was happening. Better that River is Serenity's pilot than Mal. Who thinks Mal would remember what is in the technical manual? Or have read it, even?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

REAVERFAN

Monday, March 10, 2014 6:11 PM

“777 crash confirms jihadists turning to make trouble for China. Chance for US to make common cause, befriend China while Russia bullies.” - tweet from who?

Rupert Murdoch.

No facts yet, but plenty of spin.

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Monday, March 10, 2014 10:46 PM

Terrorists are going to attack Indonesia, which has a very large Islamic population? Or China, with its totalitarianism and militarism? Those are 2 nations you wouldn't want to antagonize, especially if you're Islamic or anti-USA. Would tend to drive both of them back toward pro-West, pro-USA. And piss the Chinese off, who wouldn't be shy about whacking you back.

SO that would seem like a loser idea, strategically, from a terrorist POV.

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:57 AM

Day 3, still no sign of missing plane.

‘Iranian man booked tickets for pair who used stolen passports on MH370'
Travel agent says ‘Mr Ali’ bought seats on missing Malaysian plane for the two men, Financial Times reports

'Iranian man booked tickets for pair who used stolen passports on MH370' | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-man-booked-tickets-for-pair-who-u
sed-stolen-passports-on-mh370/#ixzz2vayECd30

Still no sign that it was terrorism, though. Tragic, regardless.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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WHOZIT

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:20 AM

It's not the 1st time a really big plane has disappeared.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Missing_aircraft

OONJERAH

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:26 AM

Why so few clues about missing Malaysia flight?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/10/opinion/palmer-malaysia-aircraft-air-fra
nce/

"The Air France [477] flight's string of events was precipitated by
onboard faults that were automatically transmitted to the airline's
headquarters during its final minutes. While they lacked any flight
parameters, these maintenance fault messages gave key clues,
though not a definitive cause of that accident, before any wreckage
was found.

"Flight data recorders are key ...

"Flight data recorders contain data from more than 1,000 aircraft
parameters, including altitude, vertical speed, airspeed, heading,
control positions and parameters of the engines and most of the
aircraft's onboard systems ...

"Once the wreckage is located, an examination of the debris and its
distribution will tell investigators if the airplane was intact upon impact
and the angle at which it hit.

... "In the meantime, speculation is often inaccurate and unproductive."

WoW! There's so much they can figure out by data transmisson. Amazing!
I don't like the "Once the wreckage is located" line.
I simply prefer a highjack for better chance of passengers' survival.

One Thing to ask: Is any of this flight recorder data transmitted to the
airport continuously during flight? If so, wouldn't they know exactly
when the plane stopped flying?

"Palmer: Based on plane's last position, the search area is extremely large."

Means: They have a Last Position.

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:27 AM

Most 'missing' aircraft had a passenger list in the single digits.

None had anywhere near the 239 who are missing since last Friday.

The last time a plane with over 100 passengers went missing was 1962, over the pacific.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:33 AM

The plane must have flown through a temporal rift. The only question is will the people be gobbled up by the Langoliers, or will they be smart enough to figure out how to get back to the present. If so, the plane could appear at any moment.

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:43 AM

Never sat through that movie long enough to know what in the hell a Langolier was.

Wish there was a Gilligan's Island ending to this story, but real life don't work that way.

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JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:58 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Never sat through that movie long enough to know what in the hell a Langolier was.

Well if you don't like that scenario, then another possibility is that Louise Baltimore snatched the plane and sent it to the future right before it would have crashed. "Coventry, send The Gate!"

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Wish there was a Gilligan's Island ending to this story, but real life don't work that way.

Sometimes it does. Life or death can be decided by inches or seconds, and miracles occur all the time.

WHOZIT

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The plane must have flown through a temporal rift. The only question is will the people be gobbled up by the Langoliers, or will they be smart enough to figure out how to get back to the present. If so, the plane could appear at any moment.

I think Aliens took them back to their planet to repopulate it.

1KIKI

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:08 PM

Curious. An actual real world event, the mysterious disappearance of an airliner , and no replies ?

Really?

If they can't blame it on Bush, who cares?

If you have to ask why should you care, then I can't tell you. (Apparently saying 'it's a shame' counts as asking why one should care.)

It's a real world event. Ignore it, if you wish.

How peculiar. After our right-wing contingent scolded us for not being sufficiently panicked over speculation, the right-wing contingent now feels the appropriate response is to make fun of the situation.

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:02 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
What's there to comment on? It's a shame ... and?

Or are we supposed to get all googly-eyed and crazy over NO CURRENT INFORMATION, like you?

How was I or anyone " googly-eyed " ? I simply stated the facts, that a plane with 239 on board was ( and still is ) missing.

And under unusual circumstances, for a modern airliner.

And why are you lumping anyone not politically affiliated w/ your view into one group. I posted the topic, and never made light of the matter. Others did, as is often the case w/ human nature, to interject humor so as to avoid the unsettling ( or horrific ) alternative. The likelihood of a happy ending is less and less, but as was so bluntly stated before, we don't really know. So yes, we're left to speculate.

A mature, reasonable person would be more concerned for those on board and their friends / families than fret over scoring internet brownie points on some message board.

I guess 1kiki doesn't fall into that category.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
What's there to comment on? It's a shame ... and?

Or are we supposed to get all googly-eyed and crazy over NO CURRENT INFORMATION, like you?

How was I or anyone " googly-eyed " ? I simply stated the facts, that a plane with 239 on board was ( and still is ) missing.

And under unusual circumstances, for a modern airliner.

And why are you lumping anyone not politically affiliated w/ your view into one group. I posted the topic, and never made light of the matter. Others did, as is often the case w/ human nature, to interject humor so as to avoid the unsettling ( or horrific ) alternative. The likelihood of a happy ending is less and less, but as was so bluntly stated before, we don't really know. So yes, we're left to speculate.

A mature, reasonable person would be more concerned for those on board and their friends / families than fret over scoring internet brownie points on some message board.

I guess 1kiki doesn't fall into that category.

Kuku and the rest of the Real Housewives of Libtardville can fill up an entire thread happily bitching about the weather (sigh), but when the Vagisil runs out they must seek relief by any means possible.

OONJERAH

Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:21 AM

Meanwhile, re: missing Malaysia flight MH370 ...
I just read that missing passengers' cell phones are still Ringable.
This is good.

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~Mark Twain

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:48 AM

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Meanwhile, re: missing Malaysia flight MH370 ...
I just read that missing passengers' cell phones are still Ringable.
This is good.

====================== :>

Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
~Mark Twain

Good? Possibly. Also weird as hell. There's also the news that " radar evidence " puts the plane some 350 miles away from the last known location.

I'm sensing some wild goose chase stories here, and in the end, it'll be up on the bottom of the ocean, not far from where everyone thought. Again, hope I'm wrong here.

But these 'reports' remind me a bit of the mystery ships that were 'somewhere' in the ocean, leading up to the 2nd Iraq war.

I'm hoping for the Gilligan's Island ending, I really am. It just never happens.

OONJERAH

Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:12 PM

Missing MH370: 'Alright, good night' were pilot's last heard words
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/12/Missing-plane-last-wo
rds/

"... The official replied that the Malaysian military was assisting
investigations "at a high level."

"Pressed repeatedly on what information the military had given
authorities, he finally replied that "now is not the time" to
reveal it.

"Some of the families shouted incredulously at this, but one
man who had taken on the role of family representative said
that they understood, and that they hoped Malaysia would
reveal the information as soon as possible.

"The exchange boosted theories among the anxious families
that there are ongoing secret negotiations with terrorists
who had hijacked the plane. Adding to this was the official's
earlier statement that Malaysia hopes that the passengers
are alive. ..."

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:52 PM

There have been complaints that the Malaysian investigation over the missing plane has been inconsistent, uncoordinated and lacking in leadership.

Are we dealing w/ sheer incompetence, or do they really know something and aren't saying?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:32 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

There have been complaints that the Malaysian investigation over the missing plane has been inconsistent, uncoordinated and lacking in leadership.

Are we dealing w/ sheer incompetence, or do they really know something and aren't saying?

They sat in silence as tens of millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours were wasted searching in an area where they knew all along the plane could not possibly be. Quite vexing indeed.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:53 PM

Yeah... That is odd.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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AURAPTOR

Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:47 AM

Hate to quote Jayne, but I saw this comin'.

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: Doubts about military track of plane

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: The Malaysia Air Force now says they are not certain that the aircraft spotted by military radar west of Malaysia is Flight 370.

KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA AND PHU QUOC, VIETNAM

Malaysia's military has traced what could have been the jetliner missing for almost five days to an area near India's Andaman and Nicobar islands, hundreds of miles from its last known position, the country's air force chief said on Wednesday.

After a series of at times conflicting statements, the latest revelation underlined that authorities remain uncertain even where to look for the plane, and no closer to explaining what happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 or the 239 people on board.

The flight disappeared from civilian radar screens shortly before 1:30 a.m. on Saturday, less than an hour after taking off from Kuala Lumpur, as it flew northeast across the mouth of the Gulf of Thailand bound for Beijing. What happened next is one of the most baffling mysteries in modern aviation history.

Malaysian air force chief Rodzali Daud told a news conference that an aircraft was plotted on military radar at 2:15 a.m., 200 miles (320 km) northwest of Penang Island off Malaysia's west coast.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2014/0312/Malaysia-Ai
rlines-Flight-370-Doubts-about-military-track-of-plane

*updated*

The Situation Room ?@CNNSitRoom 1h
Chinese satellite images are 1st solid lead consistent w/ #MH370's path, Fmr NTSB official tells @jaketapper #TheLead pic.twitter.com/5zTRQEgtE3

Not looking like the happy ending after all.

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JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:28 AM

Good thing China has a satellite to capture these pictures. I guess all the American satellites were too busy processing tweets and porn requests to notice a silly thing like a missing plane.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:28 AM

Meanwhile, after 5 days authorities still cannot give any relevant information about the two Iranians on board with stolen passports. One way tickets to Beijing paid for with cash? Uh huh.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:50 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Meanwhile, after 5 days authorities still cannot give any relevant information about the two Iranians on board with stolen passports. One way tickets to Beijing paid for with cash? Uh huh.

Hey, they've been cleared of any suspicion. So it had to be the pilot or mechanical issues. Maybe the fuel some how vaporized and was ignited by faulty wiring.

Yeah. That's the ticket.

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AURAPTOR

Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:02 PM

Still missing

And the debris picked up by Chinese satellite ? Apparently NOT from the missing 777.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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JONGSSTRAW

Friday, March 14, 2014 12:00 AM

Wall Street Journal reports today that the plane's engines continued to transmit maintenance data to Rolls Royce for 4 hours after the transponders went dark. So the plane could have flown another 2,200 miles from the last reported check-in spot. Of course the Malaysian Govt. is denying this news from the WSJ, which is to be expected, because so far that Govt. and Mayalsian Air have stonewalled, lied, and been dead wrong on everything they've said. And also today, China is saying that the satellite images they held for 4 days and then released were not released by them. 2,200 miles puts the plane just about anywhere, including Pakistan.

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 14, 2014 12:24 AM

I'm wondering, if the WSJ report is being misreported, or they go their info wrong, in whether the engines DID actually transmit data, or just that they were designed to do so.

Also, per the mobile phones still being active... how is it that no one has done a check on this ? If there's a signal, can't they find the location? Seems like step 1 for any investigation, unless there's some asinine privacy laws or restrictions which is keeping " the authorities " from doing so. What a freaking tragic joke, if the one time civilian phones AREN'T tracked , is when they're actually needed to be ,in a life or death situation.

I bet they know, and simply aren't saying. Either way, there should be SOME word on this matter.

And how does one fly a 777 over the subcontinent of India, and not get detected ? I'm wondering if that 2,200 miles includes taking the feet wet route around the southern coast of India.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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JONGSSTRAW

Friday, March 14, 2014 1:10 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I'm wondering, if the WSJ report is being misreported, or they go their info wrong, in whether the engines DID actually transmit data, or just that they were designed to do so.

Only Rolls Royce can confirm if info was sent. I don't know if they have confirmed anything yet.

Quote:
Also, per the mobile phones still being active... how is it that no one has done a check on this ? If there's a signal, can't they find the location? Seems like step 1 for any investigation, unless there's some asinine privacy laws or restrictions which is keeping " the authorities " from doing so. What a freaking tragic joke, if the one time civilian phones AREN'T tracked , is when they're actually needed to be ,in a life or death situation.

The phones could have been collected by hijackers, or they might be at the bottom of the ocean. Or something else.

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I bet they know, and simply aren't saying. Either way, there should be SOME word on this matter.

Not necessarily. If terrorism is or was involved, then the cone of silence is lowered and they say nothing to the public.

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And how does one fly a 777 over the subcontinent of India, and not get detected ? I'm wondering if that 2,200 miles includes taking the feet wet route around the southern coast of India.

Flying low under the radar and in darkness might explain how it could cross India undetected. Six days and nothing. It's amazing.

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 14, 2014 5:00 AM

Here's the latest I'm hearing , as it's being relayed over the local news radio station -

The Rolls Royce engines ran for 5 hours after the last known signal from the transponders. Supposedly the engines ping maintenance data every hour they're in operation. RR received 5 pings.

The 777 has the longest flight capacity of any airliner in the world. While it wouldn't have full tanks for this flight, it likely would have enough for the distance needed, plus a couple of hours extra.

( I think I heard that flight370 was lost approx 1 hour into its flight plan )

As for the phones, there are reports that family members were getting connect rings long after the plane was lost. If hijackers had them, it didn't matter. There should still be a way to track those phones. Or should have been, until and unless they were turned off.

The issue of piloting a plane, in the dark, w/ out ATC assistance, over who knows where, for 5+ hours, seems a tall order for some hijacker. At least, I doubt they could have landed safely under those circumstances.

ETA - Just watched some guy on FOX, experienced pilot who seems to know a thing or 2 about the 777. It needs 3,500 ft to land, which he says isn't all that hard to find. ( At least here in the US ).Says there are airfields all over the place, some from WW2 even, that could be used. ( Again, not sure how many there are in that part of the world ). Landing would be relatively easy. It's taking off again that would be an issue.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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NIKI2

Saturday, March 15, 2014 1:19 AM

Haven't been following this closely, and haven't read thru this thread, just wondered if this had been brought up:

Quote:
Sabotage Suspected on Missing Jet, as Search Area Expands

Malaysian officials investigating the disappearance of Flight MH370 say evidence from military radar-tracking suggests it was deliberately flown off-course.

A report indicated Friday that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 might have been deliberately flown off course when it vanished without a trace almost a week ago, as the search radius for the missing jet expanded once again amid conflicting reports and dashed hopes.

Reuters, citing unnamed sources familiar with the investigation into the disappearance, reports that military radar-tracking evidence suggests the Boeing 777 was deliberately flown across the Malay peninsula toward the Andaman Islands, a chain of isles between the Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal. An unidentified aircraft was apparently spotted following a route between navigational waypoints, indicating the pilot had considerable aviation training. The revelation has renewed questions about whether foul play was involved in the disappearance of a plane that was carrying 239 people from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, and for which authorities have scoured the ocean for days to no avail.

“What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards,” one source, a senior Malaysian police official, told Reuters.

Malaysian officials said Thursday that two communications systems on board the aircraft—the data reporting system and the transponder transmitting location and altitude—shut down 14 minutes apart. Some analysts claim this points toward a deliberate attempt to conceal the aircraft’s movements. But retired Colonel J. F. Josephs, an aviation accident investigator, said “this seems speculative and somewhat of a reach.

“You could choose to shut down both systems simultaneously, and it could just as well have been caused by an electrical failure,” he told TIME.

The U.S. Navy destroyer USS Kidd is currently cruising toward the Indian Ocean, the opposite direction of the ill-fated flight’s original route. Malaysian authorities have requested the vessel’s help there after it emerged that “pings” may have been picked up from the plane’s service data system up to five hours after its transponder emitted its last signal.

“Certain ships and aircraft stay in the east, and some go to the west,” Cmdr. William Marks of the U.S. 7th Fleet told CNN on Thursday. “We’re moving to the west.”

Mark said moving into the third largest ocean in the world will be like going “from a chess board to a football field.”

“It’s a completely new game,” he said. “Now we have to come up with a new strategy, new tactics.”

Josephs, who took part in locating the Air France flight 447 that crashed into the Atlantic in 2009, called it a “daunting task.”

“Even if you’re in the right grid coordinates, there are so many variables that affect the probability of detection,” he said. “The illumination, the sea stack, weather, salt. You could be able to see for millions of miles at an altitude, but at the surface you’re relying on acoustics equipment and looking through binoculars for hours at the time.”

Air traffic controllers lost contact with the plane, carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew, at about 1:30 a.m. Saturday. The jetliner had just reached cruising altitude of almost 35,000 feet and was located at the mouth of the Gulf of Thailand. No distress call was received. Twelve nations have become involved in a search and rescue operation involving scores of ships and aircraft, scouring an expanding area on both sides of the Malay Peninsula.

While U.S. officials told CNN that the Indian Ocean is a likely crash site, other facts continue to deepen the mystery. An electrical failure of the magnitude Josephs suggested would be a somewhat catastrophic scenario, which would likely also have impacted the pilots navigating capability.

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REAVERFAN

Saturday, March 15, 2014 1:28 AM

OONJERAH

Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:31 AM

Wall Street Journal
Satellite Data Reveal Route of Missing Malaysia Airlines Plane
Jetliner 'Pinged' Satellites With Location, Altitude for Hours
After Disappearance
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304185104579437573
396580350?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304185104579437573396580350.html

"Malaysia Airlines' missing jet transmitted its location repeatedly
to satellites over the course of five hours after it disappeared from
radar, people briefed on the matter said, as searchers zeroed in on
new target areas hundreds of miles west of the plane's original course.

"The satellites also received speed and altitude information about
the plane from its intermittent "pings," the people said. The final
ping was sent from over water, at what one of these people called
a normal cruising altitude. They added that it was unclear why the
pings stopped. One of the people, an industry official, said it was
possible that the system sending them had been disabled by some-
one on board.

"The people, who included a military official, the industry official
and others, declined to say what specific path the transmissions
revealed. But the U.S. planned to move surveillance planes into an
area of the Indian Ocean 1,000 miles or more west of the Malay
peninsula where the plane took off, said Cmdr. William Marks, the
spokesman for the U.S. Seventh Fleet."

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Replying to readers' comments per above report:
Today's Malaysia Airlines 370 News: What It Means That the Plane
Apparently Kept Flying An explosion now is much less likely; deliberate
destruction, by crew or attackers, more so.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/03/todays-malaysia-
airlines-370-news-what-it-means-that-the-plane-apparently-kept-flying/284414/

"Overnight the Wall Street Journal reported (paywall) that the
Boeing 777 flying as Malaysia Airlines 370 was transmitting data
about its location for five hours after its transponders stopped
functioning and it disappeared from normal Air Traffic Control
coverage. Thus the forensic mystery I mentioned last night --
that there was no evidence that the plane did keep flying, and
no evidence that it didn't -- is clarified. It leaves the disturbing
mystery of why and where the plane would have been flying
incognito.

"This is my Annie Hall/ Marshall McLuhan moment for discussing the topic. ...

"Executive summary before we go further: This latest information
obviously works against possibilities that the plane vanished from
radar coverage because it blew up -- via bomb, some structural
failure, missile strike, meteorite, what have you. The fact that
the plane kept flying, with its transponders turned off, also works
against any "pilot hypoxia" assumptions."

====================== :>

AURAPTOR

Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:20 AM

Now this is simply wrong.

http://vietnam.craigslist.org/for/4372477162.html

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

OONJERAH

Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:29 AM

My my! I wonder what Fariq did with the passengers.

====================== :>

Body by Fisher, brains by Mattel.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:

My my! I wonder what Fariq did with the passengers.

====================== :>

Body by Fisher, brains by Mattel.

Passengers ? No no! No passengers! Just the plane. That's all. He knows nothing of any passengers.

See plane ? Like , no ? You buy! Good plane!

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

NIKI2

Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:46 AM

That's a joke, surely?!

1KIKI

Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:49 AM

I'm still trying to figure out when we're supposed to run screaming in the streets 'It was Teeeeroooorists!'

1KIKI

Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:10 AM

Amazing. Demands we respond to ...., something ... with ... something ... Speculation. Criticism. Flame-baiting. Turning the event into a cause for jokes. Broad-scale character assassination. All based on ABSOLUTELY ZERO INFORMATION.

Curious. An actual real world event, the mysterious disappearance of an airliner , and no replies ?

Really?

If they can't blame it on Bush, who cares?

239 people perished ...

“777 crash confirms jihadists turning to make trouble for China. Chance for US to make common cause, befriend China while Russia bullies.” - tweet from who?

Rupert Murdoch.

The plane must have flown through a temporal rift.

I think Aliens took them back to their planet to repopulate it.

But these 'reports' remind me a bit of the mystery ships that were 'somewhere' in the ocean, leading up to the 2nd Iraq war.

Are we dealing w/ sheer incompetence, or do they really know something and aren't saying?

They sat in silence as tens of millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours were wasted searching in an area where they knew all along the plane could not possibly be. Quite vexing indeed.

Yeah... That is odd.

Meanwhile, after 5 days authorities still cannot give any relevant information about the two Iranians on board with stolen passports. One way tickets to Beijing paid for with cash? Uh huh.

I bet they know, and simply aren't saying. Either way, there should be SOME word on this matter.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 15, 2014 9:19 AM

good for them.

it's time something scurried past the all knowing eye of BB. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:42 AM

Oops... missing jet in a land where we know every underage beer purchacer....

Methinkis you're an idiot for bellieving in such shennanagans....

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:45 AM

Come on and show them your love...

AURAPTOR

Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Amazing. Demands we respond to ...., something ... with ... something ... Speculation. Criticism. Flame-baiting. Turning the event into a cause for jokes. Broad-scale character assassination. All based on ABSOLUTELY ZERO INFORMATION.

No one DEMANDED anything. I merely asked.

Do you say the same when Niki responds, sometimes more than once, to her own posts, before anyone else has ?

Oddly, no. You don't.

What info are we suppose to have spoken on, when none was forthcoming ?

Seriously, look at the true controling nature of YOU, who wants to dictate what is or what is not said in this thread.

Are you of N. Korean descent ? Just askin'.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:54 AM

FU, Don Henley.....

I grew up loving your music. You're too good for Youtube now?

Go eat a dick......

Yeah. You're still pretty awesome at 50-something....

We wanted to hear your 30-something version, Don... ;)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:43 AM

Ain't too much better than 80's Don in his prime, but here's two local defenders that don't hide their awesomeness from the kids on Youtube....

Where is that plane? Where are your GPS systems?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:06 PM

Pretty awesome....

Not as awesome as Glen Mederios' original song with his non-smooth-yet-ambiguiously-non-spanish-american accent. :)

Can't find the one where he barely passes english, and this one sounds so much better, so we'll listen to this now :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:32 PM

Haha... only see what I'm talking about when I find one of him between the ages of 16 and 17. He was like an old man to me back then.

I tip my hat to him. All the more reason for me to learn how to speak/sing in Spanish.

Half my life ago, and he was a better singer in two languages than I'll ever be in only one.

Would be hard for me to post the truth without posting this finding on the way....

:)

Making me smile now. :)

Oh... sorry to steal this thread. Who cares where the plane is.

Neo bent it out of existence. There is no plane.

Props to whoever disappeared it. I want a job working for them.

For now, just enjoy nearly 8 minutes of awesomeness :)

OONJERAH

Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:34 PM

Malaysian Airlines Plane Hijacked Malaysian government official

{: Oonj to Earth ... Anyone getting this? :}

====================== :>

All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. ~Paul Simon

OONJERAH

Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:57 PM

Malaysian leader: plane's disappearance deliberate
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/international/asia/2014/03/malays
ian_leader_planes_disappearance_deliberate

"A Malaysian passenger jet missing for more than a week had its communica-
tions deliberately disabled and its last signal came about seven and a half hours
after takeoff, meaning it could have ended up as far as Kazakhstan or deep in
the southern Indian Ocean, Prime Minister Najib Razak said Saturday

"Najib's statement Saturday confirmed days of mounting speculation that the
disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 with 239 people on board was
not accidental, and underlines the massive task for searchers who already been
scouring vast areas of ocean. ...

... "Najib said authorities had determined that the plane's last communication
with a satellite was in one of two possible "corridors" — a northern one from
northern Thailand through to the border of Kazakstan and Turkmenistan, and
a southern one from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean."

====================== :>

There are more things in Heaven & Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of
in your philosophy. ~Hamlet

AURAPTOR

Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:33 PM

I'm inclined to think ( as I've always said through out this ordeal ) that the more likely final destination for this plane was the ocean's floor.

Still, since before 9/11, there have been reports that Muslim extremists have plotted to hijack airliners from SE Asia and use them as kamikaze missiles. To deny that as a possibility, even a remote one, is simply stubborn, willful ignorance.

( And for those playing along at home, this is the FIRST suggestion by ME that Muslim terrorists could be involved here )

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
That's a joke, surely?!

Yes. A bad one.

And don't call me Shirley.

JONGSSTRAW

Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:13 AM

Is there anyone left in the country who CNN and Fox New haven't interviewed about their 'expert' opinion of what happened to this plane? The wildest one came yesterday from Lt. General Thomas McInerney who said he believes the plane is now sitting in a secret hangar in either Pakistan or Iran. It's being refueled and loaded up with nuclear and dirty bombs and biological weapons. Good luck world. I'll be with Dr. Strangelove in a nearby mine shaft.

1KIKI

Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:29 AM

We'll see how the news wanders. Unnamed officials are sometimes good sources, and sometimes not. Official pronouncements are sometimes good sources, and sometimes not. At present, it looks like a hijacking, though to what end is beyond apparent. Taking a plane to the bottom of the ocean seems pretty pointless - even counter-productive. I'm keeping an open mind.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Is there anyone left in the country who CNN and Fox New haven't interviewed about their expert opinion of what happened to this plane? The wildest one came yesterday from Lt. General Thomas McInerney who said he believes the plane is now sitting in a secret hangar in either Pakistan or Iran. It's being refueled and loaded up with nuclear and dirty bombs and biological weapons. Good luck world. I'll be with Dr. Strangelove in a nearby mine shaft.

In terms of looking at possible scenarios, that's not all that wild. If there was indeed enough fuel to make it to those destinations, it only stands to reason that , upon landing, a secret hanger is exactly what would be needed to hide a 777.

And why would anyone NEED to secretly steal and then hide a large airliner ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Is there anyone left in the country who CNN and Fox New haven't interviewed about their expert opinion of what happened to this plane? The wildest one came yesterday from Lt. General Thomas McInerney who said he believes the plane is now sitting in a secret hangar in either Pakistan or Iran. It's being refueled and loaded up with nuclear and dirty bombs and biological weapons. Good luck world. I'll be with Dr. Strangelove in a nearby mine shaft.

In terms of looking at possible scenarios, that's not all that wild. If there was indeed enough fuel to make it to those destinations, it only stands to reason that , upon landing, a secret hanger is exactly what would be needed to hide a 777.

Oh don't get me wrong, I like General McInerney. In fact he's my favorite military analyst out of all of them including Colonel Hunt. It's just when he went on air and said that, it was the first time that someone had artciulated such a dire scenario and it was startling.
Quote:
And why would anyone NEED to secretly steal and then hide a large airliner ?
That's the million dollar question, isn't it? I have a feeling we'll find out, perhaps later than sooner. I wonder what precautions are in place around the world to deal with the plane if it comes out of hiding. Are countries ready to immediately shoot it down?

AURAPTOR

Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:00 AM

Still missing.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

MUTT999

Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:53 PM

Short, interesting article:

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
We'll see how the news wanders. Unnamed officials are sometimes good sources, and sometimes not. Official pronouncements are sometimes good sources, and sometimes not. At present, it looks like a hijacking, though to what end is beyond apparent. Taking a plane to the bottom of the ocean seems pretty pointless - even counter-productive. I'm keeping an open mind.

Just because some want to disregard the hijacking of planes by terrorists does not mean it's not happening.

OONJERAH

Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MUTT999:
Short, interesting article:

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

Good article, Mutt. Simple, fits the facts, needs no villains.

====================== :>

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:40 AM

Rush Limbaugh posed a simple ( the simplest ) answer, and the 'experts ' on CNN dismissed his opinion, out of hand.

Quote:
The Media Discusses Me Discussing Them Discussing the Malaysian Airline Mystery
March 18, 2014

RUSH ARCHIVE : I forget who said it, and I'm not even gonna get the saying right, but it might have been Sir Arthur Conan Doyle writing as Sherlock Holmes who said something like, once you have ruled out everything and the most improbable, the simplest explanation for any mystery is probably the case. The problem with trying to figure what happened with this airliner is that it's impossible to conceive of the simplest explanation because now we're at 10 days. Ten days that people have been watching television. Ten days of nameless, faceless experts all over every network, none of 'em know anything, all advancing theories

RUSH: Well, CNN had to swat this down, and they chose to do it with our old buddy Jacob Tapper. Last night on CNN's The Lead, he spoke with a retired commercial pilot, CNN aviation analyst Jim Tilmon.

TAPPER: Still no closer to finding the missing jet. And my next guest, a former pilot, says the simplest explanation is actually the least likely.

RUSH: See? See? They had to find what I said, without mentioning my name, "the simplest explanation is actually the least likely."

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/03/18/the_media_discusses_me_di
scussing_them_discussing_the_malaysian_airline_mystery

Rush is right, once again.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

WHOZIT

Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:45 AM

Not one little piece will ever be found...ever.

JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:47 AM

Why don't planes have transponders hidden so that no one knows where they are and no one can turn off? My brother-in-law knows a guy in Miami who can Lojack them for $49.99 ... and you get a gift certificate to Pollo Tropical for free plantains!

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Why don't planes have transponders hidden so that no one knows where they are and no one can turn off? My brother-in-law knows a guy in Miami who can Lojack them for $49.99 ... and you get a gift certificate to Pollo Tropical for free plantains!

Everyone has a cousin ( or brother-in-law ) in Miami.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Why don't planes have transponders hidden so that no one knows where they are and no one can turn off? My brother-in-law knows a guy in Miami who can Lojack them for $49.99 ... and you get a gift certificate to Pollo Tropical for free plantains!

Everyone has a cousin ( or brother-in-law ) in Miami.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

What chew talkin' about mang? You callin' me a liar Frank? Is that what chew callin' me? You wanna go to war? Okay. Say hello to my little fren!

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:19 AM

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, March 20, 2014 4:38 AM

After 11 days, the airline was still claiming they have no idea how much fuel was loaded onto the airplane, how much fuel they paid for, how much fuel they signed for, how much fuel they ordered, how much fuel was transferred.

Yet they are whining about how the media is portraying them as incompetent hick backward boobs.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, March 20, 2014 4:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Rush Limbaugh posed a simple ( the simplest ) answer, and the 'experts ' on CNN dismissed his opinion, out of hand.

Quote:
The Media Discusses Me Discussing Them Discussing the Malaysian Airline Mystery
March 18, 2014

RUSH ARCHIVE : I forget who said it, and I'm not even gonna get the saying right, but it might have been Sir Arthur Conan Doyle writing as Sherlock Holmes who said something like, once you have ruled out everything and the most improbable, the simplest explanation for any mystery is probably the case. The problem with trying to figure what happened with this airliner is that it's impossible to conceive of the simplest explanation because now we're at 10 days. Ten days that people have been watching television. Ten days of nameless, faceless experts all over every network, none of 'em know anything, all advancing theories

RUSH: Well, CNN had to swat this down, and they chose to do it with our old buddy Jacob Tapper. Last night on CNN's The Lead, he spoke with a retired commercial pilot, CNN aviation analyst Jim Tilmon.

TAPPER: Still no closer to finding the missing jet. And my next guest, a former pilot, says the simplest explanation is actually the least likely.

RUSH: See? See? They had to find what I said, without mentioning my name, "the simplest explanation is actually the least likely."

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/03/18/the_media_discusses_me_di
scussing_them_discussing_the_malaysian_airline_mystery

Rush is right, once again.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

I think I must call foul. Once again? As I recall while listening to that day's broadcast, Rush was right at least 10 times before signing off for the day. Once, my arse.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, March 20, 2014 4:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
After 11 days, the airline was still claiming they have no idea how much fuel was loaded onto the airplane, how much fuel they paid for, how much fuel they signed for, how much fuel they ordered, how much fuel was transferred.

Yet they are whining about how the media is portraying them as incompetent hick backward boobs.

Are they in a contest with the Malaysian govt for 1st place in the category of most unbelievably incompetent ?

It looks to be a toss up.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

OONJERAH

Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:13 AM

I know y'all already saw this headline & dismissed the picture ... so,
too, does our intelligence. But I like it well enough to post it.

Malaysia Airlines plane in Malacca Strait, says crowd of 3 million
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2161166/malaysia-airlines-pla
ne-in-malacca-strait-says-crowd-of-3-million/?cs=298

"A satellite image of the possible remains of missing Malaysia Airlines
flight 370 has been released by a popular crowdsourcing map-search
website & posted on Reddit."

====================== :>

All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. ~Paul Simon

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
After 11 days, the airline was still claiming they have no idea how much fuel was loaded onto the airplane, how much fuel they paid for, how much fuel they signed for, how much fuel they ordered, how much fuel was transferred.

Yet they are whining about how the media is portraying them as incompetent hick backward boobs.

Are they in a contest with the Malaysian govt for 1st place in the category of most unbelievably incompetent ?

It looks to be a toss up.

On the surface they both seem incompetent, but it could also be just a simple lack of experience in dealing with something of this magnitude. Or it could be an effort to protect themselves or what they might already know. The U.S. and China aren't saying very much either. Some theorize that Washington could be planning a secret operation to recapture the plane from the hijackers right now.

REAVERFAN

Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:22 AM

REAVERFAN

Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:30 AM

Just because.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, March 20, 2014 4:13 PM

Found debris, off the SW coast of Australia.

I guess Courtney Love was wrong ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

NIKI2

Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:10 PM

Quote:
China has new images showing object in southern Indian Ocean, Malaysia says

China has new satellite images showing a large object floating in the southern Indian Ocean and will be sending ships to verify, the Malaysian transport minister said Saturday.

The object is 22.5 meters long and 13 meters wide (74 feet by 43 feet), Hishammuddin Hussein announced. He told reporters he'd just gotten the information, and China will release more details in the "coming hours."

China later said the satellite images showing the "suspected floating object" were captured four days ago, on March 18.

The floating object was about 77 miles from where earlier satellite images spotted floating debris. http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/22/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index
.html?hpt=hp_t1

AURAPTOR

Sunday, March 23, 2014 2:42 AM

One possible upside of all this ? We are reminded , once again, that our oceans have a lot of 'debris' floating around out there, and we need to do a better job in keeping things in order.

Alright. That isn't upside to a missing airline.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Sunday, March 23, 2014 3:12 AM

When the plane went missing two weeks ago I watched a lot of news coverage for hours. Now the whole thing has become a sick farce. I can't stomach to watch five minutes of it now. CNN ought to be ashamed of themselves for their over-the-top speculative coverage of this event. Fox News isn't too far behind them in this theater of the absurd. CNN even had a psychic on tv giving her two cents.

OONJERAH

Sunday, March 23, 2014 2:40 PM

Could lithium-ion batteries have caused a fire aboard MH370?
http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/could-lithium-ion-batteries-have-caused
-a-fire-aboard-mh370-1.1741022

"Malaysia Airlines officials confirmed Friday that the missing plane
was carrying flammable lithium-ion batteries, prompting new speculation
that the missing jetliner may have caught fire during its flight. ...

"According to the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration, more than 140
incidents involving batteries carried as cargo or baggage have been
recorded between March 1991 and February 2014.

"According to several reports, Malaysian Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari
Yahya said Friday that Flight MH370 was carrying some “lithium-ion
small batteries” but he insisted the battery cargo was checked ... "

<: ================================= :>

AURAPTOR

Sunday, March 23, 2014 6:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
When the plane went missing two weeks ago I watched a lot of news coverage for hours. Now the whole thing has become a sick farce. I can't stomach to watch five minutes of it now. CNN ought to be ashamed of themselves for their over-the-top speculative coverage of this event. Fox News isn't too far behind them in this theater of the absurd. CNN even had a psychic on tv giving her two cents.

I hear CNN is having its best ratings in years. At least FOX didn't waste precious air time suggesting that FLT 370 was sucked into a black hole. Like CNN did.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

OONJERAH

Monday, March 24, 2014 4:45 AM

If this debris they hope to find turns out to be from #370 ... then what?
It will have floated hundreds of miles from the crash site. They will attempt
to determine which current it rode & how fast ... backtracking?
.
.
BtW, Black holes are no longer black according to Stephen Hawking.

====================== :>

There are more things in Heaven & Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of
in your philosophy. ~Hamlet

1KIKI

Monday, March 24, 2014 6:02 AM

Also, the anchor reported that people had tweeted those suggestions, which he called preposterous in his broadcast, but then went on to cite them as indicative of the level of confusion and mystery that exists.

Not that facts every slowed rappy's innanity down.

OONJERAH
We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.

SIGNYM

Monday, March 24, 2014 6:19 AM

This is my first foray into this thread, and at some point I'm going to read the previous posts but... at first I was mildly interested. "Disappear??" How can a plane just disappear? Crash, maybe. Fall out of radar sight, maybe.

But the longer this goes on, with nobody claiming responsibility, and nobody claiming they have a planeload of hostages, it's clear that however the disappearance was initiated- by now everybody is dead.

Time to call off the search. We can use that $$$ for other things.

AURAPTOR

Monday, March 24, 2014 8:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Also, the anchor reported that people had tweeted those suggestions, which he called preposterous in his broadcast, but then went on to cite them as indicative of the level of confusion and mystery that exists.

Not that facts every slowed rappy's innanity down.

The FACT is that they wasted time even talking about black holes, specifically, instead of doing what any reasonable journalist would have done, and dismissed such talk, out of hand.

But no, not CNN. They decided to msnbc it up for a change and get really frelling nuts.

And merely pionting that out has 1kiki rushing to CNN's defense, least anyone DARE get the idea that FOX is at least acting like the adults in the room when reporting this event.

Which, they are.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Monday, March 24, 2014 8:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This is my first foray into this thread, and at some point I'm going to read the previous posts but... at first I was mildly interested. "Disappear??" How can a plane just disappear? Crash, maybe. Fall out of radar sight, maybe.

But the longer this goes on, with nobody claiming responsibility, and nobody claiming they have a planeload of hostages, it's clear that however the disappearance was initiated- by now everybody is dead.

Time to call off the search. We can use that $$$ for other things.

No one we know of has claimed responsibility.

I see a few scenarios here...

1 - the pilot decided to kill himself, after his family left him and after his favorite political figure was tossed in jail. Reason for living gone, and all that. 'He'll show them!'

2 - There was some sort of 'event' , malfunction of an electrical nature, that had a 1 in a billion type of cascade effect on various electrical systems.

3 - Terrorism.
a) They crashed the plane and sent everyone to Allah-land
b) No one is claiming they did it, because they're planning on using the plane for something else.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Monday, March 24, 2014 8:59 AM

CNN's Don Lemon actually had a psychic on his show this week. He asked her if she was picking up any vibes or premonitions from the plane. Next week he'll be interviewing Tonya Harding, Maureen McCormick, and Cousin Itt for their special insights into the disappearance.

1KIKI

Monday, March 24, 2014 9:12 AM

"The FACT is that they wasted time even talking about black holes ..." I guess they wasted time talking about how deeply mystified people were. But, facts never did even slow you down.

definition of a troll: "and I refuse to chase others in a mindless, endless circle of " debate " on the internet. If I 'bitch out' of a discussion, I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, my views have been presented, and there's nothing left to add."

RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!

As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies

OONJERAH
We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.

1KIKI

Monday, March 24, 2014 9:25 AM

Right after O’Reilly signed off, his Fox News colleagues committed exactly the sins he was complaining about. Megyn Kelly at 9 p.m. and Sean Hannity at 10 p.m. spent a near-solid two hours on the missing plane, their programs full of sound and fury. Hannity gave almost eight minutes of airtime to a retired Air Force general who claimed that there’s a good chance the plane is hidden in Pakistan. It’s a conspiracy theory violently at odds with prevailing reports based on U.S. government and other official sources that reconnaissance teams are searching for wreckage in the southern Indian Ocean.

“My concern is, if this airplane could be used as a bearer of a weapon of mass destruction or even conventional munitions that could attack a carrier, the Israelis, other allies, American Forces, for instance,” Lt. General Thomas McInerney told Hannity, while coyly refusing to shed light on his sources of information. “If the Pakistani government doesn’t talk soon, they’re going to be complicit in this.” Afterward one of Hannity’s missing plane “experts,” conservative columnist Deroy Murdock, a polemicist not known for his aeronautical proficiency, praised the grim-faced, silver-haired general as a credible “grownup.”

Fox News host Geraldo Rivera entered the No Spin Zone with his theory of what happened to the missing Malaysia Airlines jet. "A fully loaded Boeing 777 took off on a hot tropical night," he surmised, "and there was a smoldering fire in a tire. After the pilots reached cruising altitude, that smoldering tire led to a fire in the cockpit. So what does the pilot do? He turns to the closest airfield at Langkawi, an island that has a 13,000 food landing strip. But they are overcome by smoke inhalation, they die, and the plane keeps flying until it runs out of fuel." Exasperated by Rivera's smoke, The Factor insisted that the pilots would have used their still-functioning radio to report a fire in the cockpit.

World seems transfixed by 777 disappearance. Maybe no crash but stolen, effectively hidden, perhaps in Northern Pakistan, like Bin Laden.

MICHAEL OREN, FORMER ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES: Foreign
aircraft approaching Israel`s shores will have to identify themselves far
earlier than has previously been the case.

BILL WEIR, CNN ANCHOR: So IDF thinks it`s a possibility this that
plane is being weaponized somewhere?

OREN: Well, they can`t rule out that possibility. They can`t rule
out that possibility, and they have to take every possible measure to
protect the country in case this air jet -- airliner has been hijacked, and
in case it could be aimed at the state of Israel.

OONJERAH
We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.

AURAPTOR

Monday, March 24, 2014 9:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"The FACT is that they wasted time even talking about black holes ..." I guess they wasted time talking about how deeply mystified people were. But, facts never did even slow you down.

There's no disputing the facts here hon. You and I BOTH acknowledge they delved into the loopy , goofy side of this story. 'Mystified' ? Yeah. Black holes and psychics ?

This really does bug the living hell out of you, doesn't it ?

I'm amused at how bent out of shape you are that I'm calling CNN out on their amateurish reach for the low hanging fruit, just to get higher ratings.

Guess I must have struck a nerve.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

1KIKI

Monday, March 24, 2014 9:42 AM

definition of a troll: "and I refuse to chase others in a mindless, endless circle of " debate " on the internet. If I 'bitch out' of a discussion, I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, my views have been presented, and there's nothing left to add."

RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!

As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies

OONJERAH
We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.

SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, March 24, 2014 10:35 AM

No, seriously Obama's to blame.................

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Curious. An actual real world event, the mysterious disappearance of an airliner , and no replies ?

Really?

If they can't blame it on Bush, who cares?

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, March 24, 2014 10:59 AM

You're right, it was a very interesting article. If it holds up. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by MUTT999:
Short, interesting article:

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, March 24, 2014 11:14 AM

The Latest: 1 a.m. East Coast Time (New York)

PERTH, Australia (AP) — A Chinese plane crew spotted a white, square-shaped object in an area identified by satellite imagery as containing possible debris from the missing Malaysian airliner, China's media said Monday, while the United States prepared to move a specialized device that can locate black boxes into the region.

The crew aboard an IL-76 plane sighted the object in the southern Indian Ocean search area on Monday and reported the coordinates to the Australian command center, which is coordinating the multinational search, as well as the Chinese icebreaker Snow Dragon, which is en route to the area, Xinhua News Agency reported.

No further details were immediately given. Satellite images from Australia and China had earlier identified possible debris in the area that may be linked to the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 on March 8 with 239 people aboard.

The U.S. Pacific command said it was sending a black box locator in case a debris field is located. The Towed Pinger Locator, which is pulled behind a vessel at slow speeds, has highly sensitive listening capability so that if the wreck site is located, it can hear the black box pinger down to a depth of about 20,000 feet (6,100 meters), Cmdr. Chris Budde, a U.S. Seventh Fleet operations officer, said in a statement.

Gallery: Missing Malaysia Airlines jet

"This movement is simply a prudent effort to preposition equipment and trained personnel closer to the search area so that if debris is found we will be able to respond as quickly as possible since the battery life of the black box's pinger is limited," Budde said.

There was no sign the move was because of any break in the mystery of the plane that went missing March 8 with 239 people on board, but rather as a preparation.

The Chinese plane was one of two Ilyushins that joined the search Monday from Perth, increasing the number of aircraft to 10 from eight a day earlier.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority's rescue coordination center said the weather in the area, about 2,500 kilometers (1,550 miles) southwest of Perth, was expected to deteriorate with rain likely.

Australian Transport Minister Warren Truss said "nothing of note" was found Sunday, which he described as a "fruitless day."

"It's going to be a challenge, but we'll stick at it," he told Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio before the first aircraft left Perth at dawn. "We're just, I guess, clutching at whatever little piece of information comes along to try and find a place where we might be able to concentrate the efforts."

A cyclone bearing down on the Australian northwest coast "could stir up less favorable weather," he said.

Flight 370 while en route from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing, setting off a multinational search that has turned up no confirmed pieces and nothing conclusive on what happened to the jet.

The latest French satellite data came to light on Sunday as Australian authorities coordinating the search sent planes and a ship to try to locate a wooden pallet that appeared to be surrounded by straps of different lengths and colors.

The French data came after Australian and Chinese satellites earlier identified suspect objects.

The pallet was spotted on Saturday from a search plane, but the spotters were unable to take photos of it.

Wooden pallets are most commonly used by ships but are also used airplane cargo holds, and an official with Malaysia Airlines said Sunday night that the flight was, in fact, carrying wooden pallets. The official spoke on condition of anonymity in keeping with company policy.

In Paris, French Foreign Ministry spokesman Romain Nadal said in an interview with The Associated Press that the satellite radar echoes "identified some debris that could be from the Malaysian Airlines plane."

The spokesman said that these echoes "are not images with a definition like a photograph, but they do al

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