ISIS sets Jordanian pilot on fire in cage.

POSTED BY: AURaptor
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AURAPTOR

Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:49 PM

Yes, he died a gruesome death, and no, I won't post the vid.

JV team strikes again.

JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, February 4, 2015 6:39 AM

Another atrocity for the 'civilized' world to shake their heads at and then conveniently forget about in a couple of days.

Jordan has a modern air force with all the weapons and firepower necessary to put a serious hurt on ISIS. I wonder if they'll do a gorram thing.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, February 4, 2015 6:52 AM

More fierce talk & fist shaking, I suspect.

SECOND

Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:58 PM

If you're going to burn people alive, have the common decency to do it remotely from a console thousands of miles away.
http://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/04/burning-victims-death-sti
ll-common-practice/
"Burning Victims to Death: Still a Common Practice" - Feb 4, 2015 - The Intercept

http://xkcd.com/652/

"We live in a world where there are actual fleets of robot assassins patrolling the skies. At some point there, we left the present and entered the future."
http://xkcd.com/1046/

SECOND

Thursday, February 5, 2015 12:48 AM

King Abdullah was incensed by the fate of Jordanian pilot Lt. Moaz al-Kassasbeh. The King apparently said he would deal with ISIS in the way Eastwood’s character acts in “Unforgiven.” At one point Eastwood's character says, “Any man I see out there, I’m gonna kill him. Any [expletive] takes a shot at me, I’m not only going to kill him, I’m going to kill his wife and all his friends and burn his damn house down.”
www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Buzz/2015/0204/Jordan-king-ci
tes-Clint-Eastwood-film-as-model-for-Islamic-State-fight

AURAPTOR

Thursday, February 5, 2015 4:51 AM

I don't understand the moral equivalency message w/ the above cartoon about droning.

Anyone really think that a missile attack is on par w/ locking a man in a cage, and having him see the flames come towards him, knowing there's no where to run , to face a slow horrific death ?

It's crap like this that pretty much make me think there are no good guys in the world. We can't call evil evil, which is what ISIS is, w/ out trying to play the " yeah, but ... " game. It's pathetic.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, February 5, 2015 5:53 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I don't understand the moral equivalency message w/ the above cartoon about droning.

Anyone really think that a missile attack is on par w/ locking a man in a cage, and having him see the flames come towards him, knowing there's no where to run , to face a slow horrific death ?

It's crap like this that pretty much make me think there are no good guys in the world. We can't call evil evil, which is what ISIS is, w/ out trying to play the " yeah, but ... " game. It's pathetic.

It's frustrating now, but in time good always destroys evil.

SECOND

Thursday, February 5, 2015 6:08 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I don't understand the moral equivalency message w/ the above cartoon about droning.

Anyone really think that a missile attack is on par w/ locking a man in a cage, and having him see the flames come towards him, knowing there's no where to run , to face a slow horrific death ?

It's crap like this that pretty much make me think there are no good guys in the world. We can't call evil evil, which is what ISIS is, w/ out trying to play the " yeah, but ... " game. It's pathetic.

It is pathetic that the King of Jordan and the US Air Force and ISIS don't know how to fight wars without committing crimes. Has everybody forgot how successful military strategies work? ISIS is just the worst, but at one time the millions of Axis power soldiers were defeated. Time passes and a few thousand ISIS soldiers are turning the whole world upside down as if it is WWII again. All that ancient 1940s military wisdom seems to have evaporated, leaving Generals who don't know how to win.

The King of Jordan in the Christian Science Monitor article is quoting Clint Eastwood's UNFORGIVEN for Jordan's strategy to fight ISIS, "I’m not only going to kill him, I’m going to kill his wife and all his friends and burn his damn house down." Pretty clearly the King knows nothing about winning a war. All he knows is how to pretend to be tough.

After the killing of the Jordanian pilot, the King of Jordan gets revenge against ISIS by executing a woman who did not actually kill anyone in her failed suicide bombing. She was arrested 7 years before there was an ISIS. The King just reacts in rage. I think he has no strategy to beat ISIS.

Another example from the Intercept article about the US Air Force confusing killing civilians with winning a war: a guy going to his cousin’s marriage remembers an American Hellfire missile slammed down from the sky, the bright red-and-orange colors, then the grisly sight of a dozen burned bodies and the cries of others wounded around him.

This very week the US Air Force finished destroying the Kurdish town of Kobani, killing 200 ISIS soldiers by destroying a Kurdish city of 200,000. It is a poor strategy when you bomb your allies' territory. It's like Vietnam, where the US dropped more tons of bombs on South Vietnam (not North Vietnam) than were dropped in WWII.

What the US Air Force did to Laos was just as impressively stupid.

SIGNYM

Thursday, February 5, 2015 3:09 PM

Many Jordanians support al Qaida, so despite the fact that the king of Jordan allows the USA space in its borders for planes and training areas, the King of Jordan is also mightily afraid of his al Qaida sympathizers and appeases them in many ways. So I'm kind of struck by the fact that one set of jihadist Muslims (who believe in beheading and stoning people to death) would look in shock at someone burned to death and exclaim Why, that's going too far!!!

I was wondering why the split between ISIS an al Qaida, it seems a pointless difference. But it occurred to me that maybe al Qaida is the Saudi-funded offshoot of wahhabism, and ISIS is the Qatari-funded offshoot, and although both offshoots are Sunni they represent economic rivals.

Anyway, according to our military people, WE employed a tactic called "shake and bake" in Fallujah, Iraq,

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On November 16, 2005, BBC News reported that an article published in the March–April 2005 issue of Field Artillery, a U.S. Army magazine, noted that white phosphorus had been used during the battle. According to the article written by a captain, a first lieutenant, and a sergeant, "WP [White Phosphorus] proved to be an effective and versatile munition. We used it for screening missions at two breeches and, later in the fight, as a potent psychological weapon against the insurgents in trench lines and spider holes where we could not get effects on them with HE [High Explosives]. We fired "shake and bake" missions at the insurgents, using WP to flush them out and HE to take them out."

And that involves burning people to death. It's not any different if we have a camera aimed at them and do it individually or if we're far away and burn people to death by the dozens. Dead is still dead.

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SECOND

Thursday, February 5, 2015 7:48 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Anyway, according to our military people, WE employed a tactic called "shake and bake" in Fallujah, Iraq

“The new AGM-114N Thermobaric Hellfire warhead contains a fluorinated aluminum powder layered between the warhead casing and the PBXN-112 explosive fill. When the PBXN-112 detonates, the aluminum mixture is dispersed and rapidly burns. The resultant sustained high pressure is extremely effective against enemy personnel and structures.” https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/04/burning-victims-death-st
ill-common-practice

Translating into layman's terms this means burn your enemies alive. A perfect weapon, except when used on civilians and prisoners. ISIS takes no care of its prisoners or civilians. On the other hand, the US Air Force, going all the way back to the days when it was called the US Army Air Force based in Guam and firebombing Japan, is more careful than ISIS about burning people alive. But not much more careful. As far as some US Generals are concerned, foreign civilians are a strange and hard to define concept. From high in the sky, it is just so difficult to tell ISIS soldiers from civilians.

SECOND

Thursday, February 5, 2015 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by G:

We kill many and don't want anyone to know, and ISIS will kill one and want to put it up on the world's Big Screen.

I was looking at the story of Lt. William Calley for a comparison with ISIS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Calley

Calley was convicted of murdering 22 civilians, face to face, close enough to be splashed with their blood. And then it got very interesting.

Arkansas, Kansas, Texas, New Jersey, and South Carolina legislatures requested clemency for Calley.

Very soon Calley was a pardoned war hero, no longer a convicted murderer.

Eventually, 41 years later, Calley did apologize, claiming he was ordered to murder those civilians. A military jury had said that excuse was false, but that didn't stop Calley from shifting the blame away from himself, one more time. The lesson the US military learned is to keep reporters away from scenes of civilians and prisoners being murdered. ISIS, being very stupid, has not learned that lesson. Yet.

AURAPTOR

Friday, February 6, 2015 2:38 AM

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And that involves burning people to death. It's not any different if we have a camera aimed at them and do it individually or if we're far away and burn people to death by the dozens. Dead is still dead.

No, it's a world of difference

Your position is no different than the inanity of those who try to claim the deaths of the WTC 9/11 attacks were no different than 3,000 who die in auto accidents.

Unbelievable.

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, February 6, 2015 5:14 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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And that involves burning people to death. It's not any different if we have a camera aimed at them and do it individually or if we're far away and burn people to death by the dozens. Dead is still dead.

No, it's a world of difference

Your position is no different than the inanity of those who try to claim the deaths of the WTC 9/11 attacks were no different than 3,000 who die in auto accidents.

Unbelievable.

Today former U.S. Rep. Allen West called Obama the "Islamapologist-In-Chief"..... BANG, ZOOM! LOL!!

And as you predicted Rap, the usual America-hating psycho-twats here have responded in desperation with laughably absurd and pathetic unrelated material.

SECOND

Friday, February 6, 2015 9:20 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Today former U.S. Rep. Allen West called Obama the "Islamapologist-In-Chief"..... BANG, ZOOM! LOL!!

And as you predicted Rap, the usual America-hating psycho-twats here have responded in desperation with laughably absurd and pathetic unrelated material.

Why should Obama take responsibility for Jordan? I noticed that today the King of Jordan finally got his big fat lazy ass off his throne and sent his Air Force on a revenge bombing mission against ISIS. The bombs had messages painted on them for ISIS to read. But very soon the King will go back to claiming that Jordan is a teeny-tiny little country that can't fight a few thousand ISIS soldiers and the great big USA needs to do all the fighting while the King once again sits on his ass and watches TV. Why do Republicans keep siding with the Kings of Jordan and Saudi Arabia against what is best for the USA? Is the Tea Party treasonous?

AURAPTOR

Friday, February 6, 2015 6:44 PM

Jongs - note how the bat guano crazy Lefties try to equivocate the torching of a Jordanian pilot in a 20 + minute long propaganda piece, and shrug it off as no big deal.

Meanwhile, splashing a cup of cold water on Islamo-serial-killers in Gitmo is the worst thing humanity has done since NAZI concentration camps.

Perspective. Some folks simply don't have it.

SECOND

Friday, February 6, 2015 8:01 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Jongs - note how the bat guano crazy Lefties try to equivocate the torching of a Jordanian pilot in a 20 + minute long propaganda piece, and shrug it off as no big deal.

Since when did Jordan become a state in the United States? Just curious why it is so important for the Tea Party to protect the fat ass of the King of Jordan from being set on fire. I hate pudgy royalty.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Meanwhile, splashing a cup of cold water on Islamo-serial-killers in Gitmo is the worst thing humanity has done since NAZI concentration camps.

Gitmo is costing millions of dollars per prisoner per year. Why not save a few hundred million dollars per year by moving the prisoners to the United States? Can't do that because the Tea Party thinks Gitmo prisoners will break out of Federal SuperMax prison and murder Speaker John Boehner, a Republican, and Mitch McConnell, leader of the Senate. What a bunch of cowards are leading the Republican Party.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:Perspective. Some folks simply don't have it.

I noticed that you don't have perspective. You NEVER care about anything but what the Tea Party is talking about at the moment. There is the rest of the USA, you know?

AURAPTOR

Friday, February 6, 2015 8:41 PM

second - how do you see the King of Jordan as a 'fat ass ' ??? Anyone not a heroine model must be obese, in your view.

No one claimed Jordan was a state of the USA. Odd thing for you to say. The pilot was a human being. I guess that doesn't register w/ you very much.

The issue of bringing the terrorists here to the US has zero w/ any fear of them breaking out. It has to do w/ them being treated as mere criminals, and not POW's, combatants caught on the field of battle.

Multiple times, you referenced the TEA party, which is really bizarre. This matter has zero do to w/ partisanship, what so ever. It has to do w/ a fundamental job of the US Govt, which is to provide for the common defense.

Crazy concept for you to grasp, it seems.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

SECOND

Friday, February 6, 2015 9:12 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
second - how do you see the King of Jordan as a 'fat ass ' ??? Anyone not a heroine model must be obese, in your view.

Obama is skinny. The King of Jordan is fat. You been looking too much in the mirror at yourself and telling yourself you're not fat? That's why the King is not fat in your opinion?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
No one claimed Jordan was a state of the USA. Odd thing for you to say. The pilot was a human being. I guess that doesn't register w/ you very much.

The main stream media is treating Jordan pilot's burning as a major story. There is a murder trial in Texas, right this minute, where a child was set on fire. Heard as much about that as you have about Jordan pilot? Didn't, did you? http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/03/murder-trial-opens-for-texas-man-
accused-setting-8-year-old-boy-on-fire-in-18/

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The issue of bringing the terrorists here to the US has zero w/ any fear of them breaking out. It has to do w/ them being treated as mere criminals, and not POW's, combatants caught on the field of battle.

425,000 prisoners of war were kept in the USA during WWII. Don't you know about the many, many prison camps? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_prisoner-of-war_camp
s_in_the_United_States

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Multiple times, you referenced the TEA party, which is really bizarre. This matter has zero do to w/ partisanship, what so ever. It has to do w/ a fundamental job of the US Govt, which is to provide for the common defense.

The common defense of Jordan? I heard that Japanese prisoners were beheaded by ISIS. Japan can send the Samurai warriors to lop off ISIS heads. Obama is not enslaved to do as the Tea Party wishes.

AURAPTOR

Friday, February 6, 2015 9:27 PM

Hell, I know what I am. Obama is a stick. That doesn't make anyone heavier than him a 'fat ass'

Michael Moore ? Fat ass. Rosie O'Donnell ? Fat ass. Chris Christie ? Fat ass.

Rush ? Yeah, you can call him a fat ass.

ISIS puts out a Propaganda video , a snuff film. Sorry, but it's news. No one gleefully ran to YouTube to post or watch a child getting burned. Really poor comparison on your part.

Each of those WW2 prisoners were fighting as soldiers for a recognized government. Different time, different war.

" Obama is not enslaved to do as the Tea Party wishes. "

No, but he DID take a vow to defend this country. The wishes of ALL Americans.

ISIS is a threat to this country, and her interests. ISIS has already murdered US citizens. Innocents murdered, in the name of Allah.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, February 6, 2015 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Jongs - note how the bat guano crazy Lefties try to equivocate the torching of a Jordanian pilot in a 20 + minute long propaganda piece, and shrug it off as no big deal.

Meanwhile, splashing a cup of cold water on Islamo-serial-killers in Gitmo is the worst thing humanity has done since NAZI concentration camps.

Perspective. Some folks simply don't have it.

"bat guano crazy Lefties" ... you betcha!

SIGNYM

Friday, February 6, 2015 11:33 PM

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Jongs - note how the bat guano crazy Lefties try to equivocate the torching of a Jordanian pilot in a 20 + minute long propaganda piece

... with the killing of more than a million civilians. Yeah, crazy, I know! There's no comparison whatsoever!

HAHAHAHA!

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AURAPTOR

Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:39 AM

Do I hear ...

100 million ?

1 billion ?

Bat Guano.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, February 7, 2015 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by Sniggy The Piggy:

Oink oink stretch ... Oink oink squeal ... Oink oink lift ... Oink oink squeal

Hey those pounds are really melting off you Snigs. A few more months and you'll weigh less than a VW!

SECOND

Saturday, February 7, 2015 1:36 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

ISIS puts out a Propaganda video , a snuff film. Sorry, but it's news. No one gleefully ran to YouTube to post or watch a child getting burned. Really poor comparison on your part.

The video's intent is to terrorize and the Tea Party, the party of chickens, is terrorized. Stop watching TV, you little babies.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Each of those WW2 prisoners were fighting as soldiers for a recognized government. Different time, different war.

So, 425,000 prisoners of war can be kept inside the USA during WWII, but the cowards of the Tea Party can't tolerate 122 prisoners transferred from Gitmo? That is what you are saying. The USA would save hundreds of millions of dollars every year by shutting down Gitmo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_prisoner-of-war_camp
s_in_the_United_States

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
" Obama is not enslaved to do as the Tea Party wishes. "

No, but he DID take a vow to defend this country. The wishes of ALL Americans.

ISIS is a threat to this country, and her interests. ISIS has already murdered US citizens. Innocents murdered, in the name of Allah.

If number of murders is how Obama decides where to invade, ISIS ought to be one of the very last to feel the Tea Party's mighty wrath. More Americans have been murdered in Mexico than in any other part of the world in the past decade.

According to U.S. State Department figures, at least 648 American citizens were murdered in Mexico between October 2002 and December 2012. This represents more than 40 percent of the almost 1,600 American victims worldwide over the same period.

Three of the top four most murderous countries for Americans are in Latin America. Behind Mexico on the list is the Philippines with 84 homicides, followed by Honduras and the Dominican Republic with 77 each. http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/05/20/more-americans-murder
ed-in-mexico-than-any-other-country-in-world/

ISIS is a Tea Party priority. ISIS killed four Americans: Kayla Mueller, James Foley, Steven Sotloff and Peter "Abdul-Rahman" Kassig (Kassig's name change didn't convince ISIS). Is 4 killed by ISIS bigger than 648 killed by Mexicans? Let me know after you do the math. Will the Tea Party demand Obama send Marines into Mexico to avenge American deaths? Just curious.

SIGNYM

Saturday, February 7, 2015 2:12 AM

Oh, you know... one... three.... 648 ... a million... RAPPY gets confused by numbers greater than one!

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AURAPTOR

Saturday, February 7, 2015 5:11 AM

second - tell the family of murdered pilot to stop watching, why don't you.

And Siggy, I do confess to having trouble grasping IMAGINARY numbers.

SECOND

Saturday, February 7, 2015 5:53 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
second - tell the family of murdered pilot to stop watching, why don't you.

The Father of the pilot was talking peace, peace, it is not Jordan's fight. Once his son died, the Father was talking kill, kill them all.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

And Siggy, I do confess to having trouble grasping IMAGINARY numbers.

Kayla Mueller, James Foley, Steven Sotloff and Peter "Abdul-Rahman" Kassig are not imaginary numbers killed by ISIS. And hundreds of Americans have been murdered in Mexico.

"Statistics alone do not convey the depravity and threat of the Mexican cartels. They carry out hundreds of beheadings every year. In addition to decapitations, the cartels are known to dismember and otherwise mutilate the corpses of their victims — displaying piles of bodies prominently in towns to terrorize the public into compliance. They routinely target women and children to further intimidate communities. Like ISIL, the cartels use social media to post graphic images of their atrocious crimes." -- http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/10/isil-vs-mexican-drugcart
elsunitedstatesislamophobia.html

Why has the Tea Party not demanded Obama send Marines into Mexico? It is an atrocity! Personally I am for another war with Mexico. Remember the Alamo. Mexico is so much closer to USA and more important than Syria. The petroleum of Mexico will pay for the war with Mexico. I heard the same said about Iraq by Dick Cheney many years ago. The Tea Party should pass a Declaration of War with Mexico, thus forcing Obama to protect AURaptor. -- https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL31133.pdf

AURAPTOR

Saturday, February 7, 2015 6:33 AM

second - those Americans weren't numbers. They were people. People Obama brushed off, and then went golfing. Shows how much HE cares.

And we HAD Marines in Mexico. Well, one. And Obama forgot all about him.

Again, the golf course and a few fundraisers beckoned. So busy, our fearless leader.

SECOND

Saturday, February 7, 2015 6:57 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
second - those Americans weren't numbers. They were people. People Obama brushed off, and then went golfing. Shows how much HE cares.

And we HAD Marines in Mexico. Well, one. And Obama forgot all about him.

Again, the golf course and a few fundraisers beckoned. So busy, or fearless leader.

The Tea Party can pass a Declaration of War with Mexico at any time. Obama's permission is not necessary. Why has the Tea Party not acted against the threat to the United States by the Mexican Drug Cartel? What is the Tea Party waiting for? A mushroom cloud? Biological weapons dropped on your home? What?

Is the Tea Party afraid that the Mexican lawn care workers will attack with the spinning blades of their mowers? Article I, Section 8, of the Constitution vests in Congress the power “to declare War.” Do it!

AURAPTOR

Saturday, February 7, 2015 3:29 PM

What's Mexico have to do with Isis again ?

Don't get me wrong. I agree that the US needs to pay far more attention to the Southern border. There ARE very evil , hard core hombres down there who need to be dealt with. But that's another issue.

As for Jordan's King Abdullah II, you really need to educate yourself.

Fat ass ? Excuse me, but he's added to the list list of world leaders who could mop the floor w/ our Community Agitator in Chief, and do it before breakfast.

Plus ! He appeared on Star Trek ! Granted, it was Voyager, but hell, not many can say they appeared on a star fleet vessel ! Certainly not many world leaders !

And btw - Congress can NOT unilaterally declare war on a foreign country. If they could, why didn't the Demorats, who controlled both houses early in Obama's 1st term, do anything ? Too busy trying to bus illegals over the border and get them on govt assistance and prep them to vote Demorat, no doubt.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

SECOND

Saturday, February 7, 2015 6:47 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
What's Mexico have to do with Isis again ?

Don't get me wrong. I agree that the US needs to pay far more attention to the Southern border. There ARE very evil , hard core hombres down there who need to be dealt with. But that's another issue.

The Tea Party's priority is a war with ISIS. A priority that is not set by what is best for America, but by what is best for, pay attention AURaptor, the Tea Party. There are other dangers more important than ISIS ( the murder of hundreds of Americans by Mexicans which is exactly analogous to four Americans murdered by ISIS ) but Mexico is not important to the political future of the Tea Party like ISIS is important.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

As for Jordan's King Abdullah II, you really need to educate yourself.

Fat ass ? Excuse me, but he's added to the list list of world leaders who could mop the floor w/ our Community Agitator in Chief, and do it before breakfast.

Plus ! He appeared on Star Trek ! Granted, it was Voyager, but hell, not many can say they appeared on a star fleet vessel ! Certainly not many world leaders !

If the King of Jordan has a problem with ISIS, and he does, let the King handle it, and he hasn't. If the King of Saudi Arabia has a problem with ISIS, and he does, let the King handle it, and he hasn't. The Tea Party wants to handle ISIS so that royalty doesn't get their ceremonial robes splattered with blood. The Tea Party respects too much hereditary rulers.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

And btw - Congress can NOT unilaterally declare war on a foreign country. If they could, why didn't the Demorats, who controlled both houses early in Obama's 1st term, do anything ? Too busy trying to bus illegals over the border and get them on govt assistance and prep them to vote Demorat, no doubt.

By the way, Congress CAN unilaterally declare war. But for 20 years they been childishly mishandling that responsibility. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL31133.pdf Whoops! Make that 51 years. Anybody remember the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution and the fubar of the Viet Nam War?

The Tea Party wants the war with ISIS. The Tea Party does not want to be blamed when the war goes bad. The Tea Party wants Obama to be blamed. The next election is never more than two years ahead, you know? The Tea Party is always getting ready for that. If a war with ISIS goes badly, and it will, that is good for the Tea Party because it is Democrat Obama's fault.

The future of the Tea Party, a white minority party, is far more important than the future of Americans who are not Tea Party. I'm certain of this very narrow focus from talking to Tea Party people in Texas. Particularly, Ted Poe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Poe

AURAPTOR

Saturday, February 7, 2015 7:54 PM

second - you're funny.

Daft and looney as hell, but also funny.

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If the King of Jordan has a problem with ISIS, and he does, let the King handle it, and he hasn't. If the King of Saudi Arabia has a problem with ISIS, and he does, let the King handle it, and he hasn't. The Tea Party wants to handle ISIS so that royalty doesn't get their ceremonial robes splattered with blood.

Pelosi wants more aid for Jordan
By Mike Lillis - 02/05/15 12:16 PM EST

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday pressed President Obama to move quickly to boost military aid to Jordan in its fight against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

Pelosi said the horrific death of a Jordanian pilot at the hands of the militants highlights the need for the United States to bolster Jordan's anti-terror efforts.

"Yes," Pelosi told reporters without hesitation, "I believe the administration should move quickly to give more capacity to the Jordanians."

A video released by ISIS this week shows militants burning 1st Lt. Moaz al-Kasasbeh alive in a cage. The Jordanian pilot had been captured by the group after his F-16 went down while fighting the militants on Christmas Eve.

The killing marked a new level of brutality for a terrorist group already known for its barbaric methods, including the beheadings of a number of Western civilians, and it's spurred a number of Capitol Hill lawmakers to call for a heightened response from the White House.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/231865-pelosi-wants-more-aid-for-jor
dan

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The Tea Party respects too much hereditary rulers.

SECOND

Saturday, February 7, 2015 9:08 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
second - you're funny.

Pelosi wants more aid for Jordan

Nancy Pelosi did it to please her husband. www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Pelosi-s-husband-prefers-a-low-profile
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President Barack Obama bows to Saudi King

Obama is such a wuss. He is just not man enough to spit into the face of a King. The Tea Party would go insane with anger if Obama is not overly respectful to the sixth son of the first King of Saudi Arabia. The Tea Party has an unwholesome love for that Kingdom because of the Saudi money. For example, the Bechtel family (I worked for them on a project built in Saudi Arabia ) are big and secretive supporters of the Tea Party. The Bechtels have made billions from the lineage of the King of Saudi Arabia. And there are other big shots in the Tea Party having the same warm and fuzzy feelings toward the Royals of Arabia.

If the Royals don't get the respect they feel they deserve, they will take their business and money to some other country. So Obama and Bechtel kiss Arabian ass.

The "respect" includes not telling the King of Arabia to handle ISIS. The King never takes orders from a President.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, February 7, 2015 10:04 PM

Pelosi - not a TEA Party member

Obama - not a TEA Party member either.

SECOND

Sunday, February 8, 2015 6:34 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Pelosi - not a TEA Party member

Obama - not a TEA Party member either.

There has been an increased pressure from Tea Party leaders upon the Obama administration to frame the conflict with ISIS as a religious war against Islam. Pelosi and Obama have NOT actively resisted. Most of the time they keep politely quiet as expected from very wealthy politicians. Those two need to (that is not gonna happen) pour verbal gasoline on the Tea Party and set it on fire with some incendiary rhetoric. Maybe call the Tea Party historically illiterate fools and then prove the fact.

Pelosi needs to take up the sword and Obama the knife and start cutting off Tea Party heads and slitting Tea Party throats, metaphorically speaking. They won't do it because, well, you know, those two would have been Republicans in a different world. They are Democrats only because that's the one political party that would let those two, a woman and a black, climb to the top.

Obama made one little attempt to talk back to the Tea Party. Then he surrendered completely because, and this is the weak part of what he did, the Tea Party got very angry and spitting mad. Now Obama will stop talking about it because the Tea Party was completely unmoved by a tiny history lesson about Christianity – using religion to brutalize other people is not a Muslim invention, nor is it foreign to the American experience. Obama did not have the courage to continue talking about that because he is a wuss.
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/the-foolish-historically-
illiterate-incredible-response-to-obamas-prayer-breakfast-speech/385246/

If only Obama had been white, he'd be the Republicans' president. Both Democrats and Republicans would support moderate President White Obama if he had borne the name Barry Bama from Alabama. O'Bama the Irish president.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, February 8, 2015 6:40 PM

A fully " white " Obama would have never been noticed above the local or state level in politics. He'd be a nobody.

Just another clean, neat , articulate guy in a suit. Isn't that right, Joe Biden ?

SECOND

Sunday, February 8, 2015 6:44 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
A fully " white " Obama would have never been noticed above the local or state level in politics. He'd be a nobody.

Just another clean, neat , articulate guy in a suit. Isn't that right, Joe Biden ?

Not true if White Obama had been named O'Bama, the Irish president.

SECOND

Sunday, February 8, 2015 6:59 PM

Does AURaptor still think 122 Muslim prisoners in Gitmo are more danger than 425,000 Nazi prisoners of war kept INSIDE the USA during WWII?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_prisoner-of-war_camp
s_in_the_United_States

It has cost billions of dollars to keep Guantanamo Bay open only because the Tea Party is full of cowardly fools who know nothing. Pelosi should say it, but she won't. She is too rich and she likes to only pretend to oppose Tea Party nonsense, not actually oppose it.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:02 PM

Even Obama thinks they are more dangerous.

The " TEA Party " aren't even in control of the GOP, and yet second is deluded in thinking they are running the govt.

Such is the propaganda / derangement syndrome.

SECOND

Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:21 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Even Obama thinks they are more dangerous.

Obama pledged to shutdown Gitmo and move the prisoners onto US soil. Tea Party objected and that was the end of that pledge.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The " TEA Party " aren't even in control of the GOP, and yet second is deluded in thinking they are running the govt.

Such is the propaganda / derangement syndrome.

You heard of Senator Ted Cruz, the loony from the Texas Tea Party? The entire Republican delegation to DC from Texas is Tea Party. Same is true for the Republican delegation to Austin. Cut the bullshit, AURaptor. -- www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/06/12/7-things-to-know-about-polari
zation-in-america/

The only Republicans in DC who aren't crazy are from New England, Nebraska, and Utah.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:35 PM

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Obama pledged to shutdown Gitmo and move the prisoners onto US soil. Tea Party objected and that was the end of that pledge.

Yeah, Obama is the TEA Party's house N, huh? He's not ACTUALLY the President ?

Ted Cruz understands the Constitution more than all of those pin head RINOS in D.C.

Looney ? More like a true patriot.

SECOND

Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:43 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Obama pledged to shutdown Gitmo and move the prisoners onto US soil. Tea Party objected and that was the end of that pledge.

Yeah, Obama is the TEA Party's house N, huh? He's not ACTUALLY the President ?

Ted Cruz understands the Constitution more than all of those pin head RINOS in D.C.

Looney ? More like a true patriot.

I need to hammer that point: AURaptor, you and Ted Cruz never get enough of your facts right to sell your positions and you're forever being steered by your fears. You two are looney.

Definition of LOON: any of several large squawking bird species.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:46 PM

second - I get that you WISH what you say were true.

I really do.

But you're nothing but a babbling, irrational, and mindless sycophant.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

SECOND

Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:52 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
second - I get that you WISH what you say were true.

I really do.

But you're nothing but a babbling, irrational, and mindless sycophant

AURaptor, you still have not explained why you think 122 Muslim prisoners in Gitmo are more dangerous than 425,000 Nazi prisoners of war kept INSIDE the USA during WWII. And mentioning Obama not keeping his pledge to shutdown Gitmo is not an explanation for your beliefs. You know that, don't you? Please explain the origin of cowardly fears and anxieties. We need to know your sad mental state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_prisoner-of-war_camp
s_in_the_United_States

AURAPTOR

Sunday, February 8, 2015 9:01 PM

It's really simple, dim one. German solders were POW's, and members of a recognized nation. Necro-Muslims aren't. And the number of soldiers kept weren't a threat to murder civilians. THEY wanted to just go home, back to their families and go on living their lives. THESE idiots in Gitmo , which Obama pledged to close by the end of his FIRST year in office, are the generals and captains of their cult. Not mere foot soldiers. THESE monsters will go on killing, as there is no 'truce' to be had, as w/ German and Italian soldiers.

There's more, but I've grown bored w/ you and this pointless jihad of yours.

SECOND

Sunday, February 8, 2015 9:14 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

It's really simple, dim one. German solders were POW's, and members of a recognized nation. Necro-Muslims aren't. And the number of soldiers kept weren't a threat to murder civilians. THEY wanted to just go home, back to their families and go on living their lives. THESE idiots in Gitmo , which Obama pledged to close by the end of his FIRST year in office, are the generals and captains of their cult. Not mere foot soldiers. THESE monsters will go on killing, as there is no 'truce' to be had, as w/ German and Italian soldiers.

There's more, but I've grown bored w/ you and this pointless jihad of yours.

You are full of bullshit. You did not read about the Nazis in POW camps INSIDE the US: "Some of the camps had to be designated segregation camps and used to separate the Nazi true believers from the rest of the prisoners, whom they terrorized and even killed." The Gitmo Muslims can't do worse than the Nazis.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, February 8, 2015 9:28 PM

Again, I know you WISH to believe the things you say were true, but they simply aren't.

It's almost like you have no idea of what I know on this matter, and that I'm letting you make a fool of yourself.

SECOND

Sunday, February 8, 2015 9:49 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Again, I know you WISH to believe the things you say were true, but they simply aren't.

It's almost like you have no idea of what I know on this matter, and that I'm letting you make a fool of yourself.

Wink yourself, AURaptor. What secret do you know that you are not saying? I am curious if you are different from the Texas Tea Party. In private, never in public, the Tea Party says to kill all the sand niggers. It is a very charming way to refer to Muslims. They talk about dropping H-bombs on ISIS. Seems very reasonable to the Tea Party, but in private. I want to know your feelings so I can tell if your feelings are vicious, cowardly and cruel.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, February 8, 2015 10:15 PM

vicious, cowardly and cruel?

Those are the only options you see here, that you've already chosen ?

You're having your own conversation, listening to no one other than your own irrational fears.

Enjoy.

SECOND

Sunday, February 8, 2015 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
vicious, cowardly and cruel?

Those are the only options you see here, that you've already chosen ?

You're having your own conversation, listening to no one other than your own irrational fears.

Enjoy.

Are you telling me that the Texas Tea Party is virtuous, not vicious, when it says, in private, Muslims are sand niggers? And sand niggers must die? And the Texas Tea Party is being brave, not cowardly, when it wants to make Syria a glassy plain? That is another Texan expression for nuking ISIS. By the way, American atoms bombs are made in Texas and only Texas. Good job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantex_Plant

AURAPTOR

Sunday, February 8, 2015 10:48 PM

You offer zero proof of what this " Texas TEA Party " says, in private, what so ever.

If some PEOPLE are speaking that way of ISIS, the group of murdering Necro-Muslims who rape women and little girls, crucify, bury alive or behead children, and set fire to people in cages, then so what ?

Call them any derogatory name under the sun, for all I care. These sub humans , with all due respect to Gandalf, do NOT deserve to live.

And I question the humanity of anyone who thinks they DO deserve life, or even to be treated with basic respect. They have chosen their path. I say we end it for them.

SECOND

Monday, February 9, 2015 1:24 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You offer zero proof of what this " Texas TEA Party " says, in private, what so ever.

Sorry AURaptor that I don't have the equivalent of the secretly made Romney 47% video. The Texas Tea Party people I talk to aren't running for President, you know?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

If some PEOPLE are speaking that way of ISIS, the group of murdering Necro-Muslims who rape women and little girls, crucify, bury alive or behead children, and set fire to people in cages, then so what ?

Call them any derogatory name under the sun, for all I care. These sub humans , with all due respect to Gandalf, do NOT deserve to live.

And I question the humanity of anyone who thinks they DO deserve life, or even to be treated with basic respect. They have chosen their path. I say we end it for them.

Nice of you to use the word subhuman. I knew you were full of crazy hate. You gave yourself away, you big chicken-hearted Tea Partier.

Majorities of Americans backed the organized killing of strangers after September 11, 2001, and the designation of a worldwide class of people as subhuman.

America has got a history of not caring about killing civilians, women and children. When the American Air Force goes after ISIS soldiers, they will be killing a far larger number of civilians. Collateral damage, you heard of it and don't care, do you? Because you're scared of ISIS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_raids_on_Japan#Morality

ISIS does not know AURaptor exists. Stay in Georgia, hide in your cellar and you will be safe from them.

JONGSSTRAW

Monday, February 9, 2015 3:26 AM

AURAPTOR

Monday, February 9, 2015 3:57 AM

Hey second, if you're gonna choose to go on another one of your long winded, disjointed diatribes....

And yes. They ARE subhuman. They certainly aren't worthy of being called animals, because animals would not be so cruel, evil and heartless. But you wanna take up for them ? That's your call. Dirtbag.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

SECOND

Monday, February 9, 2015 8:15 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hey second, if you're gonna choose to go on another one of your long winded, disjointed diatribes....

And yes. They ARE subhuman. They certainly aren't worthy of being called animals, because animals would not be so cruel, evil and heartless. But you wanna take up for them ? That's your call. Dirtbag.

Look who called me dirtbag. Check your face in a mirror, AURaptor.

The King of Jordan panicked when ISIS burned his pilot. The King could have done two years ago what he did this week. ISIS ( Islamic State of Iraq and Syria ) was around in 2003. You know, in certain older civilized cultures, when men failed as entirely as the King has, they would throw themselves on their swords.

Where's a sword when you need one? Just like the King, AURaptor also panicked when ISIS burned the King's pilot. But AURaptor has no responsibility for the King's pilot. AURaptor's Georgia and the King's Jordan are on different sides of the world. AURaptor does not understand that ISIS is not a problem for Georgia. Or for the USA. It is Jordan's problem. AURaptor does not understand the difference between nearby problems and faraway problems. It's probably a learning disorder.

Many in the Tea Party of Texas have exactly the same mental disorder. It is genetic, inherited at the same time as their hatred of all sand niggers. Don't anyone pretend that racism is not the foundation of the Tea Party. For Texas, I am sure it is.

AURAPTOR

Monday, February 9, 2015 8:53 AM

Nope. Still no point. What so ever.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

SECOND

Monday, February 9, 2015 9:29 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nope. Still no point. What so ever.

I suggest the programmer should repair AURaptor, making it more believably human. It has failed the Turing Test. It is indistinguishable from a computer program simulating a chicken-hearted loon. -- http://tinyurl.com/p64j85j
http://angelsaquero.deviantart.com/art/Shiny-Repair-Service-502722753

SECOND

Tuesday, February 10, 2015 1:34 AM

"When problems happen {in Jordan}, they don't call Beijing," Obama says, "they don't call Moscow. They call us."

He says this is a responsibility that Americans embrace, but it's clear that his policymaking also views it as a trap to avoid. Countries around the world have found that it's cost-effective to invest money and energy in influence-peddling in the United States in order to try to rent the earth's most powerful military force to advance their own ends. They are helped by a media that, as Obama says, takes an "if it bleeds, it leads" approach to coverage of global affairs, thus preventing any kind of sensible balancing of different priorities. -- www.vox.com/2015/2/9/8001459/obama-undoctrine

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, February 11, 2015 3:27 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Another atrocity for the 'civilized' world to shake their heads at and then conveniently forget about in a couple of days.

Jordan has a modern air force with all the weapons and firepower necessary to put a serious hurt on ISIS. I wonder if they'll do a gorram thing.

I heard today on the news that the Jordanian Air Force, by themselves, have destroyed over 20% of isis armaments since that video. Perhaps isis miscalculated.
Apparently Obama's secret technology to only bomb empty tents has escaped the Jordanians.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, February 11, 2015 3:36 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Jongs - note how the bat guano crazy Lefties try to equivocate the torching of a Jordanian pilot in a 20 + minute long propaganda piece, and shrug it off as no big deal.
Since when did Jordan become a state in the United States?

sinceObammy said so. Jordan is one of the 57 States of the Islamic Caliphate that Bobo famously stated that he visited in America.

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Just curious why it is so important for the Tea Party to protect the fat ass of the King of Jordan from being set on fire. I hate pudgy royalty.

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Meanwhile, splashing a cup of cold water on Islamo-serial-killers in Gitmo is the worst thing humanity has done since NAZI concentration camps.
Gitmo is costing millions of dollars per prisoner per year. Why not save a few hundred million dollars per year by moving the prisoners to the United States? Can't do that because the Tea Party thinks Gitmo prisoners will break out of Federal SuperMax prison and murder Speaker John Boehner, a Republican, and Mitch McConnell, leader of the Senate. What a bunch of cowards are leading the Republican Party.
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:Perspective. Some folks simply don't have it.
I noticed that you don't have perspective. You NEVER care about anything but what the Tea Party is talking about at the moment. There is the rest of the USA, you know?

JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, February 11, 2015 5:07 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Another atrocity for the 'civilized' world to shake their heads at and then conveniently forget about in a couple of days.

Jordan has a modern air force with all the weapons and firepower necessary to put a serious hurt on ISIS. I wonder if they'll do a gorram thing.

I heard today on the news that the Jordanian Air Force, by themselves, have destroyed over 20% of isis armaments since that video. Perhaps isis miscalculated.
Apparently Obama's secret technology to only bbomb empty tents has escaped the Jordanians.

Jordan has pounded ISIS with hundreds of air strikes, and they now have staged thousands of ground troops at their border with Iraq. Looks like they've only just begun to deal with ISIS.

Today ISIS killed a young American woman, an aid worker. No details of her death have been revealed yet, but her incarceration and execution were likely beyond horrendous. And the U.S. does nothing.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, February 11, 2015 7:01 PM

Before , we were told she was the last held captive. Now I hear there may be another... one thing is for sure, we're not being told everything here.

I don't want to know what they did to her, but at least they didn't make a video of it.

Oh, of COURSE they did, they've just not released it yet. We're told they sent the parents a 'photo 'of her dead body. I wonder if that's all they sent.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, February 12, 2015 3:57 AM

Folks have been calling for some sort of action on ISIS for ...oh, about a year now.

But Obama's on the job !

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, February 14, 2015 2:40 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Before , we were told she was the last held captive. Now I hear there may be another... one thing is for sure, we're not being told everything here.

I don't want to know what they did to her, but at least they didn't make a video of it.

Oh, of COURSE they did, they've just not released it yet. We're told they sent the parents a 'photo 'of her dead body. I wonder if that's all they sent.

Did you hear the report that she was a gift to one of the ISIS fighters as a reward for something?

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:25 PM

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of ungrateful Iraqi fucks.