Will anyone ever be happy?
Wednesday, November 2, 2005

Edit: there may be slight spoilers. Consider yourself warned.

To start, I'm just going to say that I'm not trying to start any fights (which is why I'm putting this in a flylog and not starting a thread) but I'm going to speak my mind here before I end up replying to a post somewhere and regretting it later.

This is a rant. You have been warned.

Standard ranting rules apply

First we get a trailer. And people are upset. I can't even remember why now. I think it had something to do with 'not appealing to the general non-browncoated public' (although a trailer in April for a little-known movie in September is probably for the fans anyway.)

Then we get a poster. And people are upset. Doesn't represent the movie (which most of us haven't seen) yadda yadda yadda. I liked it. It's hanging in my room.

Then there is another poster (the Australian one). And people are upset. Too apocalyptic. Too martial-arty.

Then there are the tv ads. Not enough explaining. Too much explaining. Too funny. Not funny enough.

Then we get the movie. And people are upset. Too many deaths. The wrong deaths. Not enough Inara. Not enough Kaylee. Not enough River. Not enough Mal. Not enough Wash. Not enough Book. Not enough Jayne. Not enough Simon. Not enough Zoe. Not enough Serenity (the ship). It's not Firefly. It's too Firefly.

And now the DVD. There are petitions against the DVD art. And for the inclusion of several episodes of Firefly (I actually thought that one was a joke at first). And there are demands that the deleted scenes be put in (although this came from a poster who is showing definite troll-like tendencies).

I think I've made my point. And I don't necessarily disagree. I think there were flaws in the promotion (the tv ads in particular). And I'm not saying people shouldn't feel free to like and dislike things. Go ahead, I have no right to tell you how to feel.

What I find tiresome though is that it seems that from the very beginning, some people have never been happy. Everything is wrong and the fans are the only ones who know what is right and that if the fans demand something be done, it should be done.

It just feels like this weird 'entitlement' thing has sprung up. I can't describe it, but I see it everytime I see a new thread demanding Universal/Joss change something (and it's not just here. I made the mistake of going to the 'versal board and was left with this feeling ).

Does everyone need their own complaint thread? And their own petition?

And to hate everything .

I'm not in love with the DVD art. But I don't really care. I want the DVD. And if this is the art it's going to have for a December release then bring it on.

I know a lot of what I've said may anger some. But I had to say it. I'm not trying to offend, I just don't get it.

We should enjoy what we have, not dwell on what we dislike.

End rant.


Thursday, November 3, 2005 10:18 AM


I totally agree with the sentiments put forward here. I like to think of myself as a moderate sci-fi fan. While there are some franchises I'm devoted to and more than a fair number of sci-fi dvd's on my shelf, I'm not one to obsess over all the minute details and such. I think that by nitpicking and obsessing over the window dressing, you miss out on the big picture. And the big picture is, we got SERENITY made. We got an unjustly cancelled show to rise out of it's ashes and be resurrected back to life again, even if it's only for a brief moment.

So instead of whining about insignificant stuff, just be appreciative of what you have. It's something we all should live by in the grander scheme of things, as well as cult sci-fi movies.

Thursday, November 3, 2005 8:23 AM


I really agree with every word you've said,
everyone is complaining so much about whatever it was they wanted that they are ignoring all the full richness of what we've got.
I've been thinking we need a thread about the Visual Companion (which I stayed up reading until 3 am last night),
it is so clear how Joss poured his heart and his soul into 'Serenity', and you can see that in every frame of the movie.

Thursday, November 3, 2005 8:18 AM


You're welcome ;) And thanks for ranting in the first place, nice to see people join up in the more positive aspect... or opposing the negative, which is more accurate for what we're doing :)

Also... I don't get it... what's so wrong with the cover-art? I've heard people complaining it's not in style... It shows the movie... it should illustrate the movie... not the title...

Thursday, November 3, 2005 8:06 AM


Wow... thanks all for replying. To be honest, I wasn't sure what kind of response (if any) this would get.

It's good to know that I'm not the only one feeling this way. It wasn't all that long ago that we were celebrating the movie being greenlighted. Now it's all doom and gloom. And petitions.

But the responses here have reminded me of this:

River: Storm's getting worse.

Mal: We'll pass through it soon enough.

I think there is hope yet.

Thanks Severen, misskitten, Miramel, derangedmilk, JayTee, and both Anonymouses for your responses!

Thursday, November 3, 2005 7:53 AM


To: Jaytee, that would be River in the upper left corner.

Thursday, November 3, 2005 6:13 AM


I'm gonna burn out my DVD player replaying episodes of Firefly sooner or later so I'm shopping around for a new one. I'm going to see the BDM this evening for the 5th time since it won't be playing ANYWHERE near me after today. To say I loved the series is an understatement. The movie? I loved it despite some sad events in it. I'm definitely going to buy the DVD and while I don't really get that into the cover art of these things I think the art they chose is kinda lame. I'm still trying to figure out if the character in the upper left is Inara strung out on crack or River strung out on crack or trying to look like a Goth slut or something. Just my two cents which adjusting for inflation is worth nothing. :-)

Thursday, November 3, 2005 5:52 AM


I can't say I've liked all the stuff thats been done, but honestly, with some people blaming the browncoats for the movie's poor box office returns(some critic called us a "supposedly dedicated fan base") its been rather upsetting to see so many fans be not supportive. We've done a good thing and I feel as though its being ruined. I right there with you Kellaina.

Thursday, November 3, 2005 3:35 AM


that was me

Thursday, November 3, 2005 1:23 AM


Thanks for saying this. I'm completely at a loss myself. I've been waiting for this movie for so long. Whenever something promotional was released I was jumping up and down in my seat.

When I saw the movie I loved it, pure and through... then I come online and I see all this negativity... I mean what happened to our fan community...? I mean think about it. We got ourselves one hell of a cinderella story here.

Our show ended far too soon, despite our efforts, and then because this group of dedicated fans worked so hard for it, the movie was greenlighted. We pulled it off and got our movie, despite all reason. It's like people have forgotten how lucky we've actually been.

And not just that I don't think there's a single other fan community that can compare to the Browncoats movement. And there have been people involved in all levels, Joss' been involved, UIP has been involved, the actor's been involved. No matter what level of interesst we've had in this, we've worked together to get this happening...

I want to continue to view ourselves as this great group that we started out as, that together we can still make things happening. But all the negativity, all those complaint threads they are eating at me. I'm not saying people shouldn't have opinions, we're all entitled to them and it's our opinions that makes us richer...

But I don't want to see us turn from this. It's like we first were a happy child at christmas that gets the thing we've wished for for a long time... then all of a sudden we're a spoiled brat that nobody can satisfy.

I've loved every step of the way with how the movie's come to happening. Yes I might have complained when all of a sudden the screening was postponed 6 months, because I knew that it would be an even longer wait for me, but I've still known that the movie's worth waiting for, no matter how long that is and when I finally got my chance, I was that little kid at christmas. And I still am.

I believe that once Serenity hits the DVDs around the world this current frown you find amongst so many Browncoats will turn up-side-down. Because *that's* how we truly made Serenity happen in the first place. And if people can just start thinking more positive again we can make more happening. I have faith in us, which is saying a lot, since I'm non-religious.

Wednesday, November 2, 2005 9:27 PM


Um its not about whats on the DVD cover its about the freakin DVD so I gonna Have to agree with you there. Besides I think its pretty cool. And yeah there has been alot of complaining. Probably over the fact that the movie didnt do as well as all would have hoped. But we cant sit here blaming it on posters and TV ads cause the matter of the fact is we cant change those things now. So everybody should just relax enjoy the damn good movie we got from Joss and hope for a sequel.( Im pretty much just adding to what Kellaina said but I agreee so...)


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