Who is/was Shan Yu?
Saturday, April 8, 2006

So I'm watching "War Stories" for the umpteenth time and I get to wondering,
was there an actuall Shan Yu in history?

So I Google "Shan Yu" -- and nearly die laughing.

At the top of the list I get Disney's Shan Yu -- villian in the Mulan movie.
Think maybe Joss was poking fun? Can you think of anything more un-Disney than FF?


Sunday, April 9, 2006 9:31 AM


Xiang Yu

Powerful chinese general/emperor (Well okay general)

One mad philosphiper

Supa pimp playa

These all describe him pretty much, he wrote "The art of war" and he slaughtered many a chinaman/russianman. His specific age is not known, but he was old for that time when he died. He was very smart and had a huge influence on many military procedures and speeches.

The weird thing is, all of the terms above an be concluded on Xiang Yu, Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great (Except the young part), and Attila the Hun. (Also note they were in different parts of the world.

Saturday, April 8, 2006 10:15 PM


my understanding was that he was a bit of a masochist...

Saturday, April 8, 2006 12:44 PM


A lot of history can fill in 500 years

Saturday, April 8, 2006 10:46 AM


Maybe Joss was using a variation on "shanshu" as it the prophecy that seems to indicate Angel would get his soul or humanity back permanently in Season 1 of "Angel."

Or he could have been teasing Disney...who knows.


Saturday, April 8, 2006 10:24 AM


Xiang Yu. Not really that cruel...


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