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Fanfic writers - fanlib.com?
Wednesday, May 23, 2007

Apparently it's some sort of fan fiction site for profit. It sounds bizarre.

http://mashable.com/2007/05/18/fanlib

Here's a walk-through of their FAQ (which the site took down and is revising after numerous complaints):

http://telesilla.livejournal.com/555817.html

This is the specific paragraph which was alarming:

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You agree to defend, indemnify and hold harmless FanLib, its parent corporation, officers, directors, employees and agents, from and against any and all claims, damages, obligations, losses, liabilities, costs or debt, and expenses (including but not limited to attorney's fees) arising from: (i) Your use of and access to the Website; (ii) Your violation of any term of these TOS; (iii) Your violation of any third party right, including without limitation any copyright, property, or privacy right; or (iv) any claim that one of Your Submissions caused damage to a third party. This defense and indemnification obligation will survive these TOS and Your use of the Website.


And then, there's this:

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Finally, I'm going to address the comment you made in my LJ and in the LJs of several other people who expressed their dismay with your venture. You said:

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hey everyone,
I'm Chris one of the founders of FanLib> it's really late and i have been working on the site all day. I'm exhausted but i just realized what was going on here and all of the commentsts are making me sick. we're a small company with 10 emplyees who work 16 hours a day to try and make a great website. we're real people! with feelings and everything! we have been working on this and dreaming about it for a long time and you are just here to shit on it without giving us a chance. i care deeply about what you think but this is crazy. we're good people here and you make us sound like we're an evil corporation or the govt. sending your kids to war or something. we really are all about celebrating fan fiction and fan fiction readers and writers. im sorry this is so short and please excuse the fact that i am cutting and pasting this across a bunch of ljs but i gotta get some sleep.
chris




Main site:

http://www.fanlib.com

Firefly listings:

http://www.fanlib.com/home/property.do?propertyName=firefly&propertyId=1s5ak&search=Go

Anybody out there know more about it? This is the first I've heard about it, and it sounds bad.

COMMENTS

Monday, November 5, 2007 9:19 AM

DEEPLYKIDDING


With the recent loss of BSR posts I wanted to bump this thread. I've seen lots of FF/S fanfic writers indicating that it is a good practice to save work elsewhere, either on your own computer or on another fan fiction site. Back-up plans are always a good idea ;o)

I'm just expressing my concern for anyone who is considering posting at fanlib.com. Here's one of the reasons why:

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...even if you publish on this Big Corporate Website Backed By The Entertainment and Publishing Industries, you are the one who is going to get sued, and what's even more fun, is now if they get sued, you will also be sued by them... In a way, you've assumed additional liability by using their site.


Here's the link I got the quote from:
http://community.livejournal.com/fandom_lawyers/34651.html

Here's another link that I found informative/thought provoking : http://icarusancalion.livejournal.com/626928.html

I am not a fan fic writer (don't really have a writing talent), but I do a lot of arty and crafty things, many which fall into "derivative transformational" art, and I am always nervous about copyright infringement. (I'm a pretty nervous person by nature, akin to a cat in a room full of rocking chairs)

Since I have gained SO MUCH PLEASURE from so many of you wonderful writers of FF/S fanfic here at this site, I just wanted you all to be forewarned. I love ya all, and don't want to see anything bad come your way, especially at the hands of what seems to me to be greedy opportunistic hunduns (maybe a bit harsh, but I don't cotton to them type a folk). Their whole business model just leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.

Sorry for the rant - needed to get that off my chest...

Looking forward to the reinstatement of lost BSR posts that I haven't gotten around to yet, and also to any new posts coming. Keep flyin'!


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