i've been a girl for nearly seventeen years now, and i'm still figuring out how to talk to the opposite sex...the same sex...in fact, just people in general. but here's a 3-letter tip:
MSN (AIM or AOL or whatever) that way if you screw up you can just put jk or lol after it. but i guess to do that you need to get their email...and that involves talking to them...i'm not very good at this.

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ps. if you're really stuck, just smile and say hello in passing, or offer to help her with something. but don't make it seem like you're stalking her, she probably won't like it.

Freud asked "What do women want?". He didn't have an answer. What possible chance do the rest of us have?

BTW, it doesn't get better as you get older, you just get used to it.

Oh, and as for dating my friend, who I think is beautiful of mine, its out of the question. She is too dear of a friend to me to lose because I decide to ask her out.

I need to thank you all for your feed back, its been useful.

Female Jayne: I wasn't implying that I call my friends ugly or male. I just don't percive them as "girls", but rather as close friends. I only have one really close guy friend,(my interests seem fall into a more feminine category) so to me they are like "one of the guys" (just how I'm like "one of the girls" to them).

Hi give you a tip on talking to girls friends and the ones you like. Don't plan speachs but think about what you are going to say before you open your mouth. Meaning don't plan you say this they say that because when they get off script it totally screws you up. A tip on talking with your female friends. girls don't like being called ugly or male.

I agree with Ebo, the girls you feel you can talk to are the ones that are going to be most worth dating. Heck, I knew my wife for 7 years before we got together.

Honestly though, relations with the opposite sex (or same sex if so inclined, hey, you wouldn't be the first) just arn't worth it until you are 23 or so. Not on any perminent basis. People just change too much during the late teens, early 20's. Save time, money and headache, develope a sport or an interest in cars, or a good health addiction to booze.

Hormones can make the littlest comment a really big deal. Watch out for 'em.
Your friend that you say is beautiful, is probably the one who deserves half of your day's worth of thinking what to say. It sounds like your hormones were speaking, and it's an embarrassing situation to get over. If it upset you that she's upset about what happened, chances are you should re-think the interest in the "pretty girl" thing.
My recommendation is, ask out your friends. Perfect example: My husband is a guy I went to school with from 6th grade til graduation. We really didn't know each other but we had the same friends, and knew the same people. Ten years later turns out we're working at the same place, then dating , then married. Just think if he'd asked me out in school???
*sigh* ...dumb boys.

Girls can be weird.

But boys are just dumb. (sorry, check out my blogs though - your girl venting is nothing to my boy bashing) :tounge: All in good fun, right?

Some girls can be wierd and get offended by dumb things like that. (I don't really understand it myself, and I am one). A lot of girls actually. I think you're just stuck winging it...sorry.

Heres a thought though, maybe you should ask out one of the girls you CAN talk too.

Speaking as a woman, I can truthfully say that talking to a fella you've admired from afar certainly isn't a picnic either. I got a little insight as to why, though, in my Composition class just recently. We had to read an essay by Deborah Tannen that had a lot of the men and women in the class going "oh... yeah... now I get it." Including those who had been married for awhile.

I included the link. I think you'll find it a good read - oh, and it's short too

http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/tannend/sexlies.htm

Yeah, I know that women read these boards, I just needed someplace to vent. As you have read my previous attempt didn't work.

I understand what you're saying OIS.
I'm no Oprah Winfrey, but when you like a girl the best thing is to just be yourself. That's who they might be interested in. If they refuse, it's not the end of the world. At least you tried.

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Originally posted by ObjectsInSpace.
I guess when we get to the core of the matter, girls are just weird. It's not that we aren't able to communicate with them, THEY are unable to communicate with us. So it's not the fault of the man, it's the fault of the girl.

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I have to disagree. It's the same for girls. They have a hard time asking out guys they really like too. Although, girls are better at expressing their feelings than boys.It's just human nature.

I don't claim to know everything about girls. They're still a mystery to me.
Although,they'll like you when your not trying too hard to impress them. You still need to impress girls, just not in an overblown, cliched kind of way.
They have feelings too and probably do like you too and are as equally nervous.

In relation to Simon & Kaylee, there were moments when Simon would be himself (He would say something that he felt strongly and fairly about and she was impressed because he was being himself). It wasn't forced or false. It was his true self.

I hope that's been helpful.
Does anyone have any better advice?

Grrr that's the 2nd time today I've had to re-log in. The above post was me...