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The Purges Have Begun
Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:43 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:[n] "What most people don't know is that every year, elections officials strike millions of names from the voter rolls using processes that are secret, prone to error and vulnerable to manipulation," said Wendy Weiser, an elections expert with New York University's Brennan Center for Justice. "That means that lots and lots of eligible voters could get knocked off the voter rolls without any notice and, in many cases, without any opportunity to correct it before Election Day." Weiser acknowledged that "purging done well and with proper accountability" is necessary to remove people who have died or moved"But the problem is it's not necessary to do inaccurate purges that catch up thousands of eligible voters without any notice or any opportunity to fix it before Election Day and really without any public scrutiny at all," she said. Such allegations have flared up across the United States during this election cycle, most notably in Ohio, where a recent lawsuit has already gone to the U.S. Supreme Court. There, the state Republican Party sued Ohio's Democratic secretary of state in an effort to make her generate a list of people who had mismatched information. But Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner said generating such a list would create numerous problems too close to the election and possibly disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters. The Supreme Court last week ruled against the GOP on appeal of a lower court order directing Brunner to prepare the list. In Florida, election officials found that 75 percent of about 20,000 voter registration applications from a three-week period in September were mismatched due to typographical and administrative errors. Florida's Republican secretary of state ordered the computer match system implemented in early September. In Wisconsin, Republican Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen sued the state's election board after it voted against a proposal to implement a "no-match" policy. The board conducted an audit of its voter rolls and found a 22 percent match failure rate -- including for four of the six members of the board. The Brennan Center has also documented cases across the country of possible illegal purging, impediments to college student voting and difficulties accessing voter registration. A lawsuit has been filed over Georgia's mismatch system, and the state is also under fire for requesting Social Security records for verification checks on about 2 million voters -- more requests than any other state. One of the lawyers involved in the lawsuit says Georgia is violating a federal law that prohibits widespread voter purges within 90 days of the election, arguing that the letters were sent out too close to the election date. "They are systematically using these lists and matching them and using those matches to send these letters out to voters," said McDonald, director of the ACLU Voting Rights Project in Georgia. "It's not, you know, an individualized notion of people maybe not being citizens or not being residents. They're using a systematic purging procedure that's expressly prohibited by federal laws." Asked if he believed that eligible voters were purged in Georgia, McDonald said, "If people who are properly eligible, are getting improperly challenged and purged, the answer would be 'Yes,' " he said. Elise Shore, regional counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, said letters like those sent to Berry appear to violate two federal laws against voter purging within 90 days of the election. "People are being targeted, and people are being told they are non-citizens, including both naturalized citizens and U.S.-born citizens," said Shore, another plaintiff in the Georgia lawsuit. "They're being told they're not eligible to vote, based on information in a database that hasn't been checked and approved by the Department of Justice, and that we know has flaws in it." Georgia's Secretary of State Karen Handel, a Republican who began working on purging voter rolls since she was elected in 2006, said that won't happen. If there are errors, she said, there is still plenty of time to resolve the problems.
Sunday, October 26, 2008 11:30 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:And why izzit that it's always Republicans who're doing the purging?
Monday, October 27, 2008 3:49 AM
Monday, October 27, 2008 4:39 AM
WULFENSTAR
http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg
Monday, October 27, 2008 5:09 AM
FUTUREMRSFILLION
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: And why izzit that it's always Republicans who're doing the purging? Quote:[n] "What most people don't know is that every year, elections officials strike millions of names from the voter rolls using processes that are secret, prone to error and vulnerable to manipulation," said Wendy Weiser, an elections expert with New York University's Brennan Center for Justice. "That means that lots and lots of eligible voters could get knocked off the voter rolls without any notice and, in many cases, without any opportunity to correct it before Election Day." Weiser acknowledged that "purging done well and with proper accountability" is necessary to remove people who have died or moved"But the problem is it's not necessary to do inaccurate purges that catch up thousands of eligible voters without any notice or any opportunity to fix it before Election Day and really without any public scrutiny at all," she said. Such allegations have flared up across the United States during this election cycle, most notably in Ohio, where a recent lawsuit has already gone to the U.S. Supreme Court. There, the state Republican Party sued Ohio's Democratic secretary of state in an effort to make her generate a list of people who had mismatched information. But Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner said generating such a list would create numerous problems too close to the election and possibly disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters. The Supreme Court last week ruled against the GOP on appeal of a lower court order directing Brunner to prepare the list. In Florida, election officials found that 75 percent of about 20,000 voter registration applications from a three-week period in September were mismatched due to typographical and administrative errors. Florida's Republican secretary of state ordered the computer match system implemented in early September. In Wisconsin, Republican Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen sued the state's election board after it voted against a proposal to implement a "no-match" policy. The board conducted an audit of its voter rolls and found a 22 percent match failure rate -- including for four of the six members of the board. The Brennan Center has also documented cases across the country of possible illegal purging, impediments to college student voting and difficulties accessing voter registration. A lawsuit has been filed over Georgia's mismatch system, and the state is also under fire for requesting Social Security records for verification checks on about 2 million voters -- more requests than any other state. One of the lawyers involved in the lawsuit says Georgia is violating a federal law that prohibits widespread voter purges within 90 days of the election, arguing that the letters were sent out too close to the election date. "They are systematically using these lists and matching them and using those matches to send these letters out to voters," said McDonald, director of the ACLU Voting Rights Project in Georgia. "It's not, you know, an individualized notion of people maybe not being citizens or not being residents. They're using a systematic purging procedure that's expressly prohibited by federal laws." Asked if he believed that eligible voters were purged in Georgia, McDonald said, "If people who are properly eligible, are getting improperly challenged and purged, the answer would be 'Yes,' " he said. Elise Shore, regional counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, said letters like those sent to Berry appear to violate two federal laws against voter purging within 90 days of the election. "People are being targeted, and people are being told they are non-citizens, including both naturalized citizens and U.S.-born citizens," said Shore, another plaintiff in the Georgia lawsuit. "They're being told they're not eligible to vote, based on information in a database that hasn't been checked and approved by the Department of Justice, and that we know has flaws in it." Georgia's Secretary of State Karen Handel, a Republican who began working on purging voter rolls since she was elected in 2006, said that won't happen. If there are errors, she said, there is still plenty of time to resolve the problems. www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/26/voter.suppression/index.html --------------------------------- Let's party like its 1929.
Monday, October 27, 2008 5:11 AM
Monday, October 27, 2008 5:27 AM
Monday, October 27, 2008 5:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: "Because they are full of shit and have a God complex?" I thought that was Libs....
Monday, October 27, 2008 5:33 AM
Monday, October 27, 2008 5:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wulfenstar: No, No, Im SURE it was Libs.
Monday, October 27, 2008 5:39 AM
Monday, October 27, 2008 6:50 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Monday, October 27, 2008 6:54 AM
Monday, October 27, 2008 11:11 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:I give shit to Libs, because....SURPRISE SURPRISE they WHINE the most.
Quote:If I was in Middle America, I'd probably hear Conservatives puling more...
Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:31 PM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Friday, October 31, 2008 12:01 AM
Friday, October 31, 2008 1:22 AM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Friday, October 31, 2008 3:32 AM
Friday, October 31, 2008 6:56 AM
Friday, October 31, 2008 7:48 AM
Quote: The real Purges involve everyone who fails to: 1. Vote for Obama 2. Donate to Obama
Friday, October 31, 2008 12:12 PM
Saturday, November 1, 2008 1:12 AM
Saturday, November 1, 2008 2:24 AM
WHOZIT
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Georgia Republican tells supporters: "The other folks are voting" As I discussed in an article Thursday, the African-American vote could prove crucial in down-ballot elections this year, especially in the South. Democrats have a chance to pick up quite a few seats in both the House and the Senate that could hinge on the black vote. One of the Republicans who's most vulnerable to a surge in African-American turnout is Georgia Sen. Saxby Chambliss. The incumbent's lead in recent polls is only in the low single digits, generally within the margin of error. And early voting numbers from the state have contained some really bad news for Chambliss. As of this post, the number of people who've voted early there is equal to a stunning 47.4 percent of the total number of people who voted in 2004. Of those who've voted so far, 35.1 percent are African-American; in 2004, 25 percent of the overall electorate was African-American. Since this is the Democratic Party's most loyal demographic group, well, you can imagine the potential consequences for Chambliss. As Politico's David Rogers reports (h/t Balloon Juice), Chambliss seems to be well aware of what's happening. Rogers writes: "The Republican is outwardly confident, but there’s urgency in his voice as he tours North Georgia, trying to boost turnout in his predominately white base: 'The other folks are voting,' he bluntly tells supporters." *************************************************************** Silence is consent.
Saturday, November 1, 2008 5:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: ACORN's registrations had less than 1% suspicious entries. The voter roll purges are talking about 25%! I know you guys are desperate to make a point, but you're not doing a good job 'cause the figures just don't bear you out. --------------------------------- Let's party like its 1929.
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