Geez, does this guy tell the truth , about ANYTHING ??? by AURaptor

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"He later met with White House aides and Obama’s education chief, but never met the president.

Baroz has in fact received three pink slips in four years, but in each case, his job was saved, either through stimulus funds or the 2010 Congressional Jobs Bill."

Hmmm. His real name. His real job. His real story.

This is no "Joe (not his real name) the Plumber (not his real job)" who claimed he was about to buy a company (not his real story).

Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

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Friday, October 7, 2011 3:51 PM

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What the fuck does Joe citizen have to do w/ the fact that this President flatly lied, and has lied, over and over again ?

He never met with this guy, and yet he claims to have done so. The guy isn't unemployed, as the President claims. BFD if he's ever had a pink slip. Guess what ? It HAPPENS ! And it's happened to far more folks under Obama, so he should be use to it by now.

The emperor has no clothes, and yet you just keep admiring his suit anyways.

Unfuckingbelievable.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 1:40 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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"He's an English teacher in Boston who came to the White House a few weeks ago," the president explained to reporters. "In the last few years, he's received three pink slips because of budget cuts. Why wouldn't we want to pass a bill that puts somebody like Robert back in the classroom teaching our kids?"

Where's the lie?

You've already been shown that (a) he DID go to the White House, and (b) he HAS received pink slips.

Where did the President claim to have met the guy? Where did he claim that this guy is unemployed?

In this thread, all the lies are coming from you.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 1:54 AM

By the way, here's the ACTUAL quote from the President:

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I had a chance to meet a young man named Robert Baroz. He’s got two decades of teaching experience. He’s got a master’s degree. He’s got an outstanding track record of helping his students make huge gains in reading and writing. In the last few years, he’s received three pink slips because of budget cuts. Why wouldn’t we want to pass a bill that puts somebody like Robert back in the classroom teaching our kids?

Where did he say that he met with Baroz?

Where did he say that Baroz is currently unemployed?

What you claim in this thread is an outright lie. By that, I mean that YOU are lying, in claiming that the President said things that he clearly did not say.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 2:45 AM

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" I had a chance to meet ... " , but didn't.

In common parlance, when you phrase a statement like that, about a guy who did indeed visit the White House, and you're talking about him as if you actually met with him, were introduced to the guy, because it's believed you TALKED to him. It's at the very least deceitful on Barry's part.

Comes off a hell of a lot like ..."That depends on what your definition of IS is"

Good grief.

Want another lie he told this week ?

“Some of you were with me when we visited a bridge between Ohio and Kentucky that’s been classified as functionally obsolete,....That’s a fancy way of saying it’s old and breaking down. We’ve heard about bridges in both states that are falling apart, and that’s true all across the country.”

Um, no it's not, Mr. President. There's nothing wrong w/ the bridge in question. 'Functionally obsolete ' refers to the fact that there is more traffic volume crossing that point than what the bridge was designed for. The bridge is fine, there's just a need for a bigger one. It's not " old and breaking down ".

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 3:01 AM

Snipped slightly to focus on the important stuff:

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Obama's News Conference Anecdote About Boston Teacher Raises Questions
Updated: Friday, 07 Oct 2011, 3:48 PM CDT
Published : Friday, 07 Oct 2011, 3:48 PM CDT
(FOX News) -

the tale the
president told may have been embellished.

FOX only says May have been embellished. MAY HAVE BEEN-- they haven't got the balls to say WAS- and EMBELLISHED, like exaggerated, not LIED.
Only The Rap, too unimportant to be held responsible, is dumb enough to flat out make a declarative statement that OBAMA LIED.

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But according to the Boston Herald, Baroz never met the president

Fox hasn't got the balls to claim that they know this for sure-- according to them, " The Boston Herald SAID SO." SO if it's a lie or fabrication, it isn't Fox's fault, they got it from the Herald and believed it, so it's Boston's fault.

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Read more on
myFOXdfw.com: http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpps/news/politics/obama-a necdote-raises-questions-dpgonc-20111007-to_153788 65#ixzz1
a8Xnp7Pn

Well, I clicked on that link, and got an error message. The link is no good. So either TheRap lied about that, or Fox won't stand by the non story even enough to let it be read under their own name, but are willing to let it be repeated as long as they aren't legally responsible.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 3:08 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
" I had a chance to meet ... " , but didn't.

In common parlance, when you phrase a statement like that, about a guy who indeed visit the White House, and you're talking about him as if you actually met with him, was introduced to the guy, because it's believed you TALKED to him. It's at the very least deceitful on Barry's part.

If you want to criticize the President's use of language, you should do it in a sentence that doesn't have grammatical errors in it, indicating that YOU don't know how to use the language YOURSELF.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 3:24 AM

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Difference is, I didn't lie. You and Kwickie want to nit pic over the most trivial of matters, while intentionally ignoring the substance of the discussion.

Everyone ,and yes, EVERYONE here makes typos or fails to proof read their posts, form time to time. I laugh that you think that, because I don't submit the most grammatically perfect reply on A MESSAGE BOARD, that somehow the point being made isn't valid.

It's valid, and your sniping at the most trivial of matters , while ignoring the topic, only proves my point, all that much more.

Whine and bitch about this link not working, why don't ya ?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hNL_SMfPlqh5WekXRVN2
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FACT CHECK: Obama claims miss some evidence

WASHINGTON (AP) — In challenging Republicans to get behind his jobs bill Thursday, President Barack Obama argued Republicans have supported his proposals before, demanded that they explain themselves if they oppose him, and challenged others to come up with a plan of their own. The rhetoric in the president's quick-moving press conference dodged some facts and left some evidence in the dust.

OBAMA: "If it turns out that there are Republicans who are opposed to this bill, they need to explain to me, but more importantly to their constituencies and the American people, why they're opposed, and what would they do."
THE FACTS: While Republicans might not be campaigning on their opposition to Obama's plan, they've hardly kept their objections a secret.

In a memorandum to House Republicans Sept. 16, House Speaker John Boehner and members of the GOP leadership said they could find common ground with Obama on the extension of certain business tax breaks, waiving a payment withholding provision for federal contractors, incentives for hiring veterans, and job training measures in connection with unemployment insurance.

They objected to new spending on public works programs, suggesting instead that Congress and the president work out those priorities in a highway spending bill. And they raised concerns about Obama's payroll tax cuts for workers and small businesses, arguing that the benefits of a one-year tax cut would be short-lived. The memo also pointed out that reducing payroll taxes, which pay for Social Security, temporarily forces Social Security to tap the government's general fund. And it opposed additional spending to prevent layoffs of teachers, police officers and other public workers.
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OBAMA: "Every idea that we've put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike."

THE FACTS: Obama proposes to pay for his jobs bill by raising taxes, something traditionally opposed by Republicans and, in the form Obama proposed it, even some Democrats. Senate Democrats were so allergic to Obama's approach, which relied largely on limiting deductions that can be taken by individuals making over $200,000 a year and couples making more than $250,000, that they're eliminating it and replacing it with a new tax on millionaires.
In claiming bipartisan support for the components of his proposal, the president appears to be referring just to what the plan would do, not how it's paid for, but that's a crucial distinction he doesn't make.
Some of tax-cutting proposals offered by Obama have received significant Republican support in the past. But some of the new spending he proposes has received only nominal Republican backing. Evidence of bipartisanship provided by the White House includes legislation last year that provided $10 billion to prevent teacher layoffs. It won the support of only two Republican senators — Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, both of Maine and among the most moderate Republicans in Congress. Another example cited by the White House was proposal last year to offer tax breaks to businesses that hire new workers — it passed the House 217-201 with six Republican votes.
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OBAMA: "The answer we're getting right now is: Well, we're going to roll back all these Obama regulations... Does anybody really think that that is going to create jobs right now and meet the challenges of a global economy?"
THE FACTS: Well, yes, some think it will. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce last month submitted a jobs proposal to Obama that included a call to ease regulations on businesses. It specifically called for streamlining environmental reviews on major construction projects and to delay the issuance of some potentially burdensome regulations until the economy and employment have improved. In the letter, Chamber President Thomas Donohue also called on Congress to pass legislation that would require congressional approval of major regulations. The chamber did not indicate how many jobs such regulatory changes could create, but it said: "Immediate regulatory relief is required in order to begin moving $1 trillion-$2 trillion in accumulated private capital off of the sidelines and into business expansion."
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OBAMA: "We can either keep taxes exactly as they are for millionaires and billionaires, with loopholes that lead them to have lower tax rates, in some cases, than plumbers and teachers, or we can put teachers and construction workers and veterans back on the job."

THE FACTS: True, "in some cases" wealthy people can exploit loopholes to make their tax rate lower than for people of middle or low income. In recent rhetoric, Obama had suggested it was commonplace for rich people to pay lower rates than others, a claim not supported by IRS statistics. But on Thursday, Obama accurately stated that it only happens sometimes.
In 2009, 1,470 households filed tax returns with incomes above $1 million yet paid no federal income tax, according to the IRS. Yet that was less than 1 percent of returns with incomes above $1 million. On average, taxpayers who made $1 million or more paid 24.4 percent of their income in federal income taxes; those making $100,000 to $125,000 paid 9.9 percent; those making $50,000 to $60,000 paid 6.3 percent. The White House argues that when payroll taxes — paid only on the first $106,800 of wages — are factored in, more middle class workers wind up with a higher tax rate than millionaires.
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OBAMA: "China has been very aggressive in gaming the trading system to its advantage and to the disadvantage of other countries, particularly the United States. .... And currency manipulation is one example of it, or at least intervening in the currency markets in ways that have led their currency to be valued lower than the market would normally dictate. And that makes their exports cheaper and that makes our exports to them more expensive."

THE FACTS: While Obama complained about China's efforts to keeps its currency undervalued to gain trade advantages, his administration has repeatedly refused to brand China as a currency manipulator in a report that the Treasury Department is required to send to Congress twice a year.

Such a designation would trigger negotiations between the two countries and could ultimately lead to U.S. trade sanctions against China.
The administration has been reluctant to brand China a currency manipulator, as have past administrations, because the United States depends on China to buy U.S. Treasury securities to help finance America's budget deficits. China owns $1.17 trillion in U.S. Treasury securities, making it the largest foreign holder of Treasury debt.
Associated Press writers Erica Werner, Martin Crutsinger and Calvin Woodward contributed to this report.
Copyright © 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 3:47 AM

The substance of the discussion is that you're stupid, uneducated, and practically illiterate, so that anything you might post is not credible to any intelligent person. You can't even write a complete sentence, let alone one without errors, so how can you be trusted to have read a news story correctly? ANd THAT is NOT a trivial error-- me typing "ANd" is a trivial error, a typo, but you can't even reply without making more mistakes.
You can barely read, can't write, and from the evidence , can't think.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 3:51 AM

Oh, and when you post a bad link, and get caught at it; posting a link to some other subject doesn't validate the original error, it just changes the subject. To correct the error, you have to post a valid, working link to the SAME subject.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 3:52 AM

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It's clear that you're hyper exaggerating my tiny ,occasional typos simply because you can't debunk or address my points, and because I'm a free thinking, intelligent human being, a conservative, and not some brain dead, low life socialist scum ,as yourself.

Sad, you call yourself a Browncoat.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 3:55 AM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Oh, and when you post a bad link, and get caught at it; posting a link to some other subject doesn't validate the original error, it just changes the subject. To correct the error, you have to post a valid, working link to the SAME subject.

More mindless nit picking on your part. The story is out there, and as you clearly showed, other links work and validate my initial story. You want to bitch to me about a link FOX or someone else F'd up? Really ? I don't make the links, genius, I just post them as they were given. Seriously, get a frakin' life.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:07 AM

How 'bout THIS LINK WORKS:

http://bostonist.com/2011/10/07/herald_fail_with_obama_gotcha_ploy.php

HERALD FAILS WITH OBAMA 'GOTCHA' PLOY.

Yes , the story is out there-- the truth is out there somewhere, too, Sculley. The accurate quote is that Obama had a chance to meet the guy . That's true. You MISQUOTED OBAMA, and then claimed that he lied. The truth is that the guy DID get 3 pink slips in 4 years.

"What TheRap has spoken is unimportant, and we do not hear his words."

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:11 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Oh, and when you post a bad link, and get caught at it; posting a link to some other subject doesn't validate the original error, it just changes the subject. To correct the error, you have to post a valid, working link to the SAME subject.

More mindless nit picking on your part. The story is out there, and as you clearly showed, other links work and validate my initial story. You want to bitch to me about a link FOX or someone else F'd up? Really ? I don't make the links, genius, I just post them as they were given. Seriously, get a frakin' life.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

Actually, you don't. The way you posted the link, it had extra spaces in it. A little poking around on the website turns up the correct link. Go look; you'll see.

And of course you lied. You claimed Obama LIED (your word). When pressed, you backtrack and claim he's playing with the language in order to give an impression that he met with someone he didn't meet with.

Kind of like your claim that the last three winners of the Florida straw poll became the GOP nominee. TECHNICALLY it's not a lie, but it's certainly a deceptive way of stating the fact that the Florida straw poll hasn't picked a winner in more than 15 years, and only three times in the nation's history has it even managed to pick the nominee, and then only has a 66.6% record of picking the winner in the election. But of course you parsed all that to imply that Cain's the nominee and that it's a foregone conclusion.

So, did you LIE in making your claims, or were you simply being deceitful with your use of the language?

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:12 AM

DMAANLILEILTT

Just quietly, I think that Joss Whedon is more likely to disagree with you than not. So I wouldn't start the whole "shame you're a Browncoat" argument.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:15 AM

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Nothing in your posted story / link disputes anything I've said. It ignores the fact that Obama lied, on the matter of having met w/ this guy. He didn't, but you'll buy the contorted , twisted Clintonesque logic which supposedly gives Obama some wiggle room, because he only said he " had a chance " to meet with this guy, and not that he actually met him.

Hell, I had a " chance " to have sex with Jewel Staite, but that doesn't mean I did. That I would ever even try to suggest as such, is equally dishonest and misleading as what the President said.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:16 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
" I had a chance to meet ... " , but didn't.

In common parlance, when you phrase a statement like that, about a guy who did indeed visit the White House, and you're talking about him as if you actually met with him, were introduced to the guy, because it's believed you TALKED to him. It's at the very least deceitful on Barry's part.

It's believed BY WHO? Not by me, as I've clearly shown. The fact that you're a gullible idiot doesn't mean everyone else is.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:18 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Sad, you call yourself a Browncoat.

We've discussed that one before, too, recently, Rap The BrownSHIRT... I'm a BrownCoat because I'm a fan of a cancelled TV SHOW. There is no political, nor educational, nor philosopshical test for membership in this FREE SOCIETY.
SO why don't you shut up about that before I start telling you that it's sad that somebody with an IQ as low as yours is a BrownCoat?

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:20 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Nothing in your posted story / link disputes anything I've said. It ignores the fact that Obama lied, on the matter of having met w/ this guy. He didn't, but you'll buy the contorted , twisted Clintonesque logic which supposedly gives Obama some wiggle room, because he only said he " had a chance " to meet with this guy, and not that he actually met him.

Hell, I had a " chance " to have sex with Jewel Staite, but that doesn't mean I did. That I would ever even try to suggest as such, is equally dishonest and misleading as what the President said.

So when you say you "had a chance to have sex with Jewel Staite", you're saying that you had sex with her? Or, to be more precise, you're LYING when you say such a thing?

After all, all through this thread you've accused the President of LYING by using such language - and then you use the exact same language! When you say you "had a chance", is that a statement that you DID have sex with her? Because that's what you're claiming, according to you.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:21 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

And of course you lied.

No, I didn't.

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You claimed Obama LIED (your word).

He did

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When pressed, you backtrack and claim he's playing with the language in order to give an impression that he met with someone he didn't meet with.

Actually, I was giving YOU and those who buy into this lie an out, as I'm sure you'll gladly take. But in actuality, the President knowingly put forth the idea that he had met w/ the man, when he knew that he did not, and ran with that. It's dishonest, intentionally and done with aforethought. It's a lie.

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Kind of like your claim that the last three winners of the Florida straw poll became the GOP nominee. TECHNICALLY it's not a lie, but it's certainly a deceptive way of stating the fact that the Florida straw poll hasn't picked a winner in more than 15 years, and only three times in the nation's history has it even managed to pick the nominee, and then only has a 66.6% record of picking the winner in the election. But of course you parsed all that to imply that Cain's the nominee and that it's a foregone conclusion.

No, it's nothing like that, but in your quest to try to belittle me and my views, at every conceivable chance, because of your own inadequacies, I can see why you'd promote that position.

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So, did you LIE in making your claims, or were you simply being deceitful with your use of the language?

Neither. Nothing I said was a lie, misleading or deceptive, even in the smallest degree.

You're just a petty , little loser, who can't stand it when your messiah is called out for what he truly is. A liar.

Sucks to be you, I guess.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:24 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Hell, I had a " chance " to have sex with Jewel Staite, but that doesn't mean I did.

You actually had 2 chances--- slim and none. In your dreams anyway. And you changed the subject again. Obama never said he met the guy. NEVER SAID IT. How is something he NEVER SAID a LIE?

Give it up ,loser.

How sad that you're a BrownSHIRT...

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:25 AM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

SO why don't you shut up about that before I start telling you that it's sad that somebody with an IQ as low as yours is a BrownCoat?

You could try, but then not only would you be wrong about me, but you'd be insulting all Browncoats.

I suggest you change your name, to NewOldCommie, and just be done w/ it.

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How sad that you're a BrownSHIRT

If you knew anything about history, you'd kick yourself in the face at how stupid you sound. If anything, brown-shirts are more akin to the a-holes who are blindly following a incompetent, agenda driven radical like Obama, while ignoring the issues of the real world.
Brown Shirts followed the NAZI party , who were SOCIALISTS. That falls right in line w/ your political view, and completely contrary to mine.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:27 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Difference is, I didn't lie. You and Kwickie want to nit pic over the most trivial of matters, while intentionally ignoring the substance of the discussion.

Thing is, you did lie. You claimed that the President made claims that he clearly did not make. That is a lie. You're willfully passing along bad information, and standing by it even after you know it's untrue. You are by definition a liar.

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Everyone ,and yes, EVERYONE here makes typos or fails to proof read their posts, form time to time. I laugh that you think that, because I don't submit the most grammatically perfect reply on A MESSAGE BOARD, that somehow the point being made isn't valid.

And yet you're more than willing to parse Obama's words a put them under a freaking electron microscope, looking for the tiniest errors or omissions to harp on, and claiming "HE LIED! HE LIED!" about every tiny thing he says.

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It's valid, and your sniping at the most trivial of matters , while ignoring the topic, only proves my point, all that much more.

You claim he lied, you claim he can't tell the truth, about ANYTHING, so yes, getting into the actual words being used *IS* valid, regardless of whether you believe so or not.

The only point you've proven here is that you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and can't tell a lie from the truth. I guess it comes from watching too much FauxNews. Was your brain turned to mush by listening to conservatives, or do you listen to them because your brain is mush?

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:33 AM

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I didn't lie. I'm right about what the President said, what he intended and what he tried to pass off as the truth. He lied, I didn't.

And,once again, you're wrong. I never claimed that he CAN'T tell the truth, I posed the question - DOES this guy tell the truth ?

He might, but he sure does lie a hell of a lot, along the way.

The basic problem here is a prime example of The Dunning - Kruger effect.

YOU have no clue of what you're saying, and because of your ignorance, you feel emboldened. It's your illusion of 'bliss'.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:34 AM

This post seems to have got lost:
YO, Rap the BrownShirt, why don't you show me the trivial, typo errors in this sentence of yours:

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In common parlance, when you phrase a statement like that, about a guy who indeed visit the White House, and you're talking about him as if you actually met with him, was introduced to the guy, because it's believed you TALKED to him.

That IS an accurate quote of a sentence you wrote, isn't it? I didn't change it, did I? Maybe if you can correct the trivial typos in it, I'll believe that you're more intelligent than a bunch of chimpanzees randomly typing a bunch of keyboards. You might even produce Hamlet. I might even respond to the intelligent point you're making in that sentence.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:41 AM

Yeah, Rap the BrownSHIRT, but the Nazis also went around throwing out folks who didn't agree with them, and telling Big Lies, and acting like THEY were in charge, and bullying folks they disagreed with. ALL behavior that you're using.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:42 AM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
This post seems to have got lost:
YO, Rap the BrownShirt, why don't you show me the trivial, typo errors in this sentence of yours:

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In common parlance, when you phrase a statement like that, about a guy who indeed visit the White House, and you're talking about him as if you actually met with him, was introduced to the guy, because it's believed you TALKED to him.

That IS an accurate quote of a sentence you wrote, isn't it? I didn't change it, did I? Maybe if you can correct the trivial typos in it, I'll believe that you're more intelligent than a bunch of chimpanzees randomly typing a bunch of keyboards. You might even produce Hamlet. I might even respond to the intelligent point you're making in that sentence.

He can't. But as an illustration of his beloved D-K effect, he'll claim he CAN, but he WON'T, because he doesn't want to play your game and hasn't got the time to waste on such trivia.

Prove me wrong, Rappy. I'd like to see if you can.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:46 AM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Yeah, Rap the BrownSHIRT, but the Nazis also went around throwing out folks who didn't agree with them, and telling Big Lies, and acting like THEY were in charge, and bullying folks they disagreed with. ALL behavior that you're using.

None of those things you listed are behavior that I'm using.

Can one USE behavior ? Or is it displayed ? Might want to figure that one out.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:50 AM

Yanno, Kwik,
it seems like Obama was smart enough to use the English language so well, he was able to make folks as DUMB as Rap The BrownShirt THINK he said something that he DIDN'T EVEN say. I think it was Lazarus Long who once said that the best way to lie is to tell the truth in a way that makes sure that nobody will believe it.

Paradox there, inn't it? To LIE by TELLLING the TRUTH?

And if you want to make them look DUMB, telling the truth while looking like you're lying, and then saying, "I NEVER SAID THAT!" and having the record back you up is a sign of real genius.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:52 AM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Yeah, Rap the BrownSHIRT, but the Nazis also went around throwing out folks who didn't agree with them, and telling Big Lies, and acting like THEY were in charge, and bullying folks they disagreed with. ALL behavior that you're using.

None of those things you listed are behavior that I'm using.

Can one USE behavior ? Or is it displayed ? Might want to figure that one out.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

Yeah, it's not like you'd ever pick at any tiny grammatical or syntax error, is it? After all, you really hate behavior like that. Childish, petty, and inane, I believe you called it. Quite an apt description of you, really.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 4:56 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

And if you want to make them look DUMB, telling the truth while looking like you're lying, and then saying, "I NEVER SAID THAT!" and having the record back you up is a sign of real genius.

Then why don't you do that, if you think it applies to me.

Oh, wait.... you can't.

Never mind.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 5:00 AM

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This post seems to have got lost:
YO, Rap the BrownShirt, why don't you show me the trivial, typo errors in this sentence of yours:

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In common parlance, when you phrase a statement like that, about a guy who indeed visit the White House, and you're talking about him as if you actually met with him, was introduced to the guy, because it's believed you TALKED to him.

That IS an accurate quote of a sentence you wrote, isn't it? I didn't change it, did I? Maybe if you can correct the trivial typos in it, I'll believe that you're more intelligent than a bunch of chimpanzees randomly typing a bunch of keyboards. You might even produce Hamlet. I might even respond to the intelligent point you're making in that sentence.

He can't. But as an illustration of his beloved D-K effect, he'll claim he CAN, but he WON'T, because he doesn't want to play your game and hasn't got the time to waste on such trivia.

Prove me wrong, Rappy. I'd like to see if you can.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

BTW, KWIK, take a REAL CLOSE, HARD look at that sentence. Examine it with every bit of reading skill you've learned. The tell me: if you get past the trivial verb tense errors, what is the REAL fatal flaw in the sentence?
Don't reply publicly, I've already given the BrownShirt a really big hint, but he's too DUMB to ever see it unless somebody tells him. Just let me know.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 5:01 AM

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Yanno, Kwik,
it seems like Obama was smart enough to use the English language so well, he was able to make folks as DUMB as Rap The BrownShirt THINK he said something that he DIDN'T EVEN say. I think it was Lazarus Long who once said that the best way to lie is to tell the truth in a way that makes sure that nobody will believe it.

Paradox there, inn't it? To LIE by TELLLING the TRUTH?

And if you want to make them look DUMB, telling the truth while looking like you're lying, and then saying, "I NEVER SAID THAT!" and having the record back you up is a sign of real genius.

Funny thing is, it's not just Rappy the Brownshirt™ who's doing it. Not-very-Breitbart's website is claiming that Obama "LIED", too.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 5:15 AM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

And if you want to make them look DUMB, telling the truth while looking like you're lying, and then saying, "I NEVER SAID THAT!" and having the record back you up is a sign of real genius.

Then why don't you do that, if you think it applies to me.

There's an old saying, back where I come from, I don't remember it 'xackly, somethin' about if the shoe is the right size fer yer foot, it oughtta be comfortable if ya wear it.

'Nother old sayin', sumthin' about bad folks runnin' away even if nobody is chasin' 'em.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 5:22 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Boy, he really got you guys going, didn't he? Had your attention for...how many posts? Got you to respond to him, despite already KNOWING it would do no good, for....how much of your time? Enjoy the exercise in futility if you want, but none of it is real, remember that. He got exactly what he was after: Your attention and the excuse to call you names, lie, and keep stringing you on.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 5:31 AM

I been awake since 2 AM California time, Niki, had nothin' better to do. Thought I'd push back on the dumbass a while. Waitin' to see if anybody can spot what's wrong with that sentence of his. Sooner or later, somebody will catch it, prove again just how dumb he is.
Meanwhile, I gotta take my daughter to work. Back later.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 5:37 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

" Not-very-Breitbart's website is claiming that Obama "LIED", too."

Well, at least we know where Rappy got 'his' thought from. He certainly didn't think it himself.

Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 5:40 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
" Not-very-Breitbart's website is claiming that Obama "LIED", too."

Well, at least we know where Rappy got 'his' thought from. He certainly didn't think it himself.

Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

Well, he *claims* he got it somewhere else, but can't provide a link. How convenient for him.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 8:15 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
" Not-very-Breitbart's website is claiming that Obama "LIED", too."

Well, at least we know where Rappy got 'his' thought from. He certainly didn't think it himself.

Lots of sources were reporting it, because it's true. That Breithbart also is going with it, only validates me, all that much more.

You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts - Patrick Moynihan.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 8:46 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Lots of sources were reporting it, because it's true. That Breithbart also is going with it, only validates me, all that much more.

To me that just indicates there is a lot of bullshit sources.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 9:06 AM

America loves a winner!

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To me that just indicates there is a lot of bullshit sources.

Again...

You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts - Patrick Moynihan.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 10:18 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts - Patrick Moynihan.

...and the fact point to the President embellishing a story, not out right lying about it.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Saturday, October 8, 2011 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
" Not-very-Breitbart's website is claiming that Obama "LIED", too."

Well, at least we know where Rappy got 'his' thought from. He certainly didn't think it himself.

Lots of sources were reporting it, because it's true. That Breithbart also is going with it, only validates me, all that much more.

You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts - Patrick Moynihan.

Yeah, because it's not like Breitbart's known for posting bad info or anything... [/sarcasm]

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Sunday, October 9, 2011 5:38 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

From what I know of Breitbart, anyone quoting him is being INvalidated by doing so, not validated. It's like saying "I heard it on FauxNews, that validates it." There will always be Breitbarts and FauxNewses on either side; eventually those they don't cater to understand what they are and what lack of validity they represent.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Sunday, October 9, 2011 7:28 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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It's clear that you're hyper exaggerating my tiny ,occasional typos simply because you can't debunk or address my points

No rappy, we are not hyper exaggerating your typos, we are (or at least I am) laughing at your ability to read and think.

As I read your dissections of every little thing Obama says, I can't help but think .....if rappy had only done that with George Bush and trickle-down economics and Fox news then he wouldn't have gotten so deluded by stories that were part exaggeration, part fabrication, and mostly imagination.

Next time, please turn that magnifying glass on your "news" sources and your "heroes", and you will be several steps closer to the truth.

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Sunday, October 9, 2011 8:07 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"Lots of sources were reporting it, because it's true."

And this is how they reported it

Mass. teacher mentioned in President's speech
Herald Fail With Obama Gotcha Ploy
Jamaica Plain teacher gets presidential mention
Obama Highlights Boston Teacher During Jobs Speech

Like I said, at least we know where you got your 'thought' from.

Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

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Sunday, October 9, 2011 8:10 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Herald Fail With Obama Gotcha Ploy

We've got a new controversy, courtesy of the Boston Herald. Baroz visited the White House but never met Obama. He's currently employed, too.

The Herald says he fudged on Baroz being unemployed to bolster his jobs bill. The President never said he was unemployed. Three pink slips in four year is no way to live.

Here's the quote from the Herald:

“I had a chance to meet a young man named Robert Baroz. He’s got two decades of teaching experience. He’s got a master’s degree. He’s got an outstanding track record of helping his students make huge gains in reading and writing. In the last few years, he’s received three pink slips because of budget cuts. Why wouldn’t we want to pass a bill that puts somebody like Robert back in the classroom teaching our kids?”

Why let the record get in the way of a gotcha headline?

Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

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Sunday, October 9, 2011 8:16 AM

America loves a winner!

You can try to twist this issue as being how I think or where I get the news from, but you can't change the facts.

Obama implied that he had talked w/ a teacher who had visited the White House, and no such conversation or meeting had taken place.

It's really just that simple, and yet because of your stubbornness, your blind refusal to face reality, and because you hate being shown the truth when it comes from those you disagree, you act like defiant little children, stomp your feet, shake you heads and shout idiotic insults. You're throwing a hissy fit because Santa isn't real.

Fine, scream and curse at me all you want.

Santa still isn't real. And Obama lied about this, as he's lied about a great many other things as well.

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Sunday, October 9, 2011 8:31 AM