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Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:57 PM

LIBRARYGIRL

So what types of software are you vidders using?

What's the Cadillac of video editing programs?

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Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:02 PM

RKLENSETH

Avid or Final Cut Pro are the Cadillacs of video editing but I don't vid, I work for Time Warner as a media editor.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:17 PM

JACQUI

Not sure about Cadillac of vid editing, I use fairly basic programs.

I use DVD Shrink 3.2 to get the clips, then Xilisoft Video Converter to change them from VOB to mpeg files, then Windows Movie Maker to compile them.

I'm sure there are better programs to use, but I'm just playing around.

*~*~*
"He's hurting a woman, he really *is* a bad guy... and I wouldn't call him a gentleman."
- Kyle, 9, watching 'Serenity'.

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Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:30 PM

GREYRAVEN37

I'm an Adobe person myself. Premiere for editing, Photoshop for titles, After Effects for any effects stuff, Audtion for sound, and Encore for burning to DVD.

"As sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave."

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Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:32 PM

DELUSIONALRAYNE

I use DVD Shrink 3.2 to get the clips I want, and compile them with Cyberlink's Power Director 4 and Windows Movie Maker. I convert the DVD Shrink files to useable forms with Cowon's Jet Audio program (fantastic little media player of all types).

From the research I did, Power Director 4 was the cadillac of programs (within affordable range anyway). But you should check it out and choose for yourself. Don't discount windows movie maker though because for a built in program, it is suprisingly versatile.

Mal: Kaylee, what the hell's going on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:43 AM

BEAKO

I use Final Cut Pro. I used Premier, Avid, Avio and Canopus for non-linear editing and the Video Toaster for linear editing for my music videos in the past, but I am very happy with Final Cut Pro.

I am glad (and kind of sad) to see that no one is using crazy transitions like sheep falling from the sky - a Video Toaster classic!

I know plenty of people who are happy with such programs as iMovie (Mac) and MovieMaker (PC).

No system does everything and I feel that whatever you have, you adapt to and make your own as you understand its strengths and weaknesses.

Colin
www.beako.com
(fan music videos galore!)

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 6:26 AM

SERENITYVALLEY

Eh, I can't stand Final Cut Pro.

Go Pinnicle Studio!

Adobe Premier Pro is really good too.

http://www.simple-assault.com/Firefly.htm

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:07 AM

BEAKO

"Eh, I can't stand Final Cut Pro."

I feel like a dagger has been plunged into my heart!

What don't you like about Final Cut Pro?

I never used Premier Pro or Pinnacle Studio myself, but I did use 6.5. It's not that I disliked the other programs, but I was not used to how they worked and what I would assume would work (because it does *this way* in another program) did not work and it was frustrating. Again, just getting used to what you have. However, they all do great work when you understand the tools.

BTW, SerenityValley, great art of Jayne and Tracey on your site. Tracey looks nearly life-like and you really caught Jayne's expression well. I also enjoyed the "Sad little king" picture. I could see that as a fun t-shirt.

I'll take two...

Colin
www.beako.com

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:33 AM

JASON2025

iMovie is perfect for simple (and not so simple actually) work. I've used Final Cut on my Mac, not a fan. I mainly use Vega Video on my PC these days. Everytime Final Cut comes out with a "new and revolutionary" feature, it's something that has been in Vegas for a year or more usually. I just like that it's easy to learn, you've never fighting the program.

There's a stripped down version available as well.

Cheers.

J\

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:06 AM

CAPTAINSHINY

i am an amateur editor, planning to make a career out of it, and i've got one called screenblast from sony. its good forsimple stuff, but its limitations really p*ss me off. i can't even do blue/greenscreen work! grrrr!

"That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth."

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:27 AM

JASON2025

Well, if you want to make a career out of it, you're going to have to learn to use products such as AVID (Shudder) which you'll swear was purposely designed to sell training courses on how to use it.

Screen blast studio is based on an early version of Vegas Video and lacks all of it's advanced features. You can download a demo of the full package from Sony's website, check it out.

Cheers.

J\

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:28 AM

JAKE7

Pinnacle studio is great - when it works.

I have more problems with that blasted program than I care to think about!

It seems I can get one project done per version. Once I'm successful getting one project done, the rotten thing won't work again for months (and nothing changes. I just can't figure it out!)

My brother-in-law's cousin is using a new Sony editor software (can't recall the name, sorry) that looks really really cool. Expensive though...

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:23 AM

RKLENSETH

Quote:
Originally posted by jason2025:
Well, if you want to make a career out of it, you're going to have to learn to use products such as AVID (Shudder) which you'll swear was purposely designed to sell training courses on how to use it.

Screen blast studio is based on an early version of Vegas Video and lacks all of it's advanced features. You can download a demo of the full package from Sony's website, check it out.

Cheers.

J\

What's wrong with Avid? It is far better than the likes of the Vortex or Casablancas I have to use at work. In fact it is the best out there as long as you know how to use it. I mean it is over doing for vidding since the very simple Moviemaker that comes with window will do the job jus as well.

Anyways, if you want a career in editing then your best bet is to become Avid certified. Even if the company you're looking to get hired by doesn't use Avid it'll put you up over most other people who will go out for the job (except experience or knowing somebody which are usually the ultimate factors when hiring in that industry). If you're young then make sure you get an internship somewhere and do a damn good job and that'll open doors which is what helped me on top of my Avid certification.

If you live in the Albany, NY area I would highly suggest attending the Television Studio and Production course at the New School of Radio and Television. They provide Avid Certification (at a cost though)and training in all the fields of Television production as well as an internship near the end of the course which is required to complete the course anyways.

You should also note that there is a huge difference between amatuer and professional editing.

Anyways, good luck and stay away from working doing weddings. Great payoff but crappy work. News or if you're lucky commercial production is where you want to go if you want to make a career out of editing.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:56 AM

JASON2025

Oh, there's nothing wrong with AVID and you're right, there's a huge difference between amateur and pro editing. AVID was one of the first but sometimes it's kinda like square peg, round hole. It's the standard because it's been around so long and once you learn to use it, yes, just like anything, it works well.

I've tried pretty much all of the consumer level video editors and Vegas is the best one I've found but of course, your mileage and experience will vary.

Cheers.

J\

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:01 AM

CALHOUN

Quote:
librarygirl wrote:
Tuesday, November 22, 2005 17:57
So what types of software are you vidders using?

I use a Canopus ADVC 100 to capture and all of the following have come in handy.

VirtualDubMod

Ulead VideoStudio

PowerDirectorPro

DVDLab

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:03 AM

CAPTAINSHINY

Quote:
Originally posted by jason2025:
Well, if you want to make a career out of it, you're going to have to learn to use products such as AVID (Shudder) which you'll swear was purposely designed to sell training courses on how to use it.

Screen blast studio is based on an early version of Vegas Video and lacks all of it's advanced features. You can download a demo of the full package from Sony's website, check it out.

Cheers.

J\

Thanks! I'll check it out.

"That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth."

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:03 AM

JAYTEE

We use Pinnacle Studio Pro here at work. It's very flexible and seems to be able to do just about anything we want it to although I'm not a video editing guru and don't have much else to compare it to.

Jaytee

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:37 AM

JASON2025

Thanks! I'll check it out.

"That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth."

Actually, it's the Sony Media Software site.
http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/

Cheers.

J\

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:53 AM

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION

I use iMovie. So far it is able to do everything I need, but I am close to outgrowing it.

~~~~~
"Funny and sexy. You have no idea. And you never will."

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:17 PM

JASON2025

Quote:
Originally posted by UnregisteredCompanion:
I use iMovie. So far it is able to do everything I need, but I am close to outgrowing it.

iMovie is a fantastic little editing program and I've been using it on and off ever since the very first version. I don't use it much today because like you, I outgrew it. That said, I still use it to rough things together on my iBook when I'm on vacation or something. I even did an audition shoot for someone awhile back where I went to their house, shot their audition, edited it on iMovie and gave them a tape right there and then to send it in.

Cheers.

J\

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:17 PM

UNCHARTEDOUTLAW

Am I the only one who uses Windows Movie Maker? I'm hoping (with the help of a good friend) to get Apple to donate a Final Cut Pro to my classroom since I teach a unit in film production, but we'll see.

http://unchartedoutlaw.blogspot.com - blog
http://www.fireflytalk.com - the new damn podcast

"It's just an object. It doesn't
mean what you think." -River Tam

"How did your brain even learn human
speech? I'm just so curious." -Wash

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 1:04 PM

JASON2025

Quote:
Originally posted by UnchartedOutlaw:
Am I the only one who uses Windows Movie Maker? I'm hoping (with the help of a good friend) to get Apple to donate a Final Cut Pro to my classroom since I teach a unit in film production, but we'll see.

See, well, yeah. It's like this. You'd be the only one. Not that I'd judge you soley by this but I reckon moving to FCP would be quite the jump.

:)

Cheers.

J\

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 1:56 PM

SERENITYVALLEY

Well, Final Cut has some of the most transitions and effects of others I've used, but I don't particularily care for the format, but most of all, I hate the way rendering is set up. It could have been the version I used, but when I used it, every time you tweeked something, you had to render it in order to see it played. That was also true for Adobe Premier, but the Adobe Premier PRO was more like Studio in that you never had to render until you were done with the project. You could aways watch back your movie in good quality without any wait. Are there versions of Final Cut where you don't have to render as you go?

And thank you for the comments on my art.

http://www.simple-assault.com/Firefly.htm

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:24 PM

20THCENTFOXHATER

Whatever any of you do, DO NOT USE ANY WINDOWS BASED PROGRAMS. Or iMovie that matter. Almost all are junk if you want to make a high end quality movie. Use FINAL CUT. It's a bit pricey, but there is Final Cut Express for the cashed strapped. It doesnt have as many features, but still is the best line of movie editing software.

Just go to the Apple Computer website, and go to their Store link. Or click here:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/70207/
wo/1M4t7ZTEDnMx2yXYcJs1Bq60WJp/0.SLID?find=Final+cut&btn.x=0&btn.y=0

"I aim to misbehave."

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:30 PM

20THCENTFOXHATER

To follow up what I said, I have used Apple Computers for over 2.5 years now, and I find they are far better to edit movies with that PC's. My friend has a PC movie editing program, and he's says it's absolute crap compared even to iMovie. iMovie is fine, and can be learned in about 30 minutes to an hour, but is not made for anything longer than 8-9 minutes, and can't do all the fancy stuff you'd like to. When using Final Cut though, you can do much more in the line of covering up mistakes, editing sound, and lighting defects, and it also makes movies look much more presentable. I used Final Cut 5 when helping to make a feature length movie, and found it made a big difference.

"I aim to misbehave."

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:34 PM

JASON2025

Quote:
Originally posted by 20thCentFoxHater:
Whatever any of you do, DO NOT USE ANY WINDOWS BASED PROGRAMS. Or iMovie that matter. Almost all are junk if you want to make a high end quality movie. Use FINAL CUT. It's a bit pricey, but there is Final Cut Express for the cashed strapped. It doesnt have as many features, but still is the best line of movie editing software. "

Well, as someone who has used Final Cut, iMovie and Windows based programs, I can tell you for a fact that you're wrong. Final Cut is a fine program for some, yet it's workflow leaves much to be desired. As for Windows software not being good enough for high end? Vegas Video's DV codec is renowned for it's quality and I just finished editing two television pilots complete with full Dolby 5.1 surround mixes using it. And yes, it works with HD footage if need be. I'm not trying to get into a computer or program war here but to each his own. I use Mac and PC's for different things. They're just a tool, nothing more.

Cheers.

J\

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:09 PM

UNCHARTEDOUTLAW

Okay, granted I am using my software to make short music videos for Firefly and for my VW bus club and stuff. I'm not at the full motion picture level yet.

http://unchartedoutlaw.blogspot.com - blog
http://www.fireflytalk.com - the new damn podcast

"It's just an object. It doesn't
mean what you think." -River Tam

"How did your brain even learn human
speech? I'm just so curious." -Wash

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:16 PM

JACQUI

I'm with you, Outlaw.

Me an' you, probably the only people keeping Windows Movie Maker alive.

I mean, I'm keeping my amateur vid skill status so I can compete in the olympics, but still...

I don't need no fancy expensive programs to play around with some vid clips and songs. I just have fun.

*~*~*
"He's hurting a woman, he really *is* a bad guy... and I wouldn't call him a gentleman."
- Kyle, 9, watching 'Serenity'.

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:09 PM

ZAPHODB

There's nothing wrong with Avid at all. I downloaded the trial version last year and have played with it quite a bit. I still use Windows Movie Maker 2 though for most of my vids, but I did do a faux trailer or two (The Ballad of Serenity trailers) with Avid and was very happy with the results.

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