Firefly Virtual Season 2 ideas by Ananti

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Firefly Virtual Season 2 ideas

POSTED BY: ANANTI
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 09:19
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Sunday, December 4, 2005 12:34 PM

DRACOS

Okay, no problem.

"Dont ask me silly questions.
I wont play silly games."

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Monday, December 5, 2005 6:18 AM

EXODUS2310

Well that sounds cool. can't wait to read them.

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Monday, December 5, 2005 5:37 PM

SERENITYBOY

Please contact me through e mails, it is much easier for me, cuz i dont get to the board too often. I love to write, and i really love these characters so to work with them would be a dream. please e mail me at slayerboy2002@hotmail.com. I would appricate being able to be on your writing staff, even if i only get to do one episode! thanx a lot!

David McCloughan Jr.

"Been more'n a year since I had anything twixt my nethers didn't run on batteries!"

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Tuesday, December 6, 2005 7:42 AM

EXODUS2310

I could make set ya up a forum, along with ya custom banners and avatars and what not. Here are a couple I've done.

http://stargatedestiny.proboards55.com/index.cgi
http://sguniverse2.proboards51.com/

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Tuesday, December 6, 2005 8:35 AM

GEDEON

You've ASSIGNED writers to this project!

This is great news. I'm in the first steps of writing a fanfic, but now I can't wait for your results!

Badger rules! You gotta write him some good stuff because he's my favorite bastard...

Gedeon

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:21 AM

RUNA27

Because I don't want the thread to die. ;)

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TECH FOLKS: I'd like two do two things here. First, we need a better way to communicate. Can someone set up a forum or something for us? I'm not particular tech savvy myself...

Weeeell, there's always my Shades of Fantasy boards, I think I could create a private forum there if you'd like. I'm still trying to figure out how to work raw PHP stuff on my own, but meanwhile, SoF is hosted somewhere and pre-fab, as it were with me able to edit and make new forums of course since I'm the admin.

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Second, we'll need a site for this. I'm seeing it as eventually looking like a virtual DVD set, wth special features, commentary, etc.

That would be so neat! Do you have a webmaster yet? I *might* be able to contribute this much. Heck, maybe even webspace. I have some, after all.

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ARTISTS: Not sure how we want to do this yet (treatments, full scripts for every episode, etc), but I think it would be great to have whatever we write illustrated in some way (storyboards, etc).

If we design the site to imitate a DVD menu system, the storyboards could be an extra. The main episodes could be done as scripts, perhaps interspersed with Photoshopped pics or illustrations.

Side note: it might also be fun to include fake ad breaks. Like advertizing Blue Sun coffee or Fruity Oaty Bars!

(Or maybe that could be just an extra...).

I think it'd be neat to do the episodes in flash format, of course, but you'd need a REALLY experienced flash cartoonist to do that, right? Or at least a really good one who knows their stuff.

Of course, you'd also need voice actors for that, probably.

Of course, if you did go that route and do flash, I'm fairly sure I could pull off River, and *possibly* Kaylee. So I'm there if you need VAs.

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RESEARCH: Is anyone else working on a project like this? Will Joss get mad? If the answer to either of these is yes, we need to rethink things.

I don't know about other Virtual Seasons, but Joss would probably be OK with this. After all, he approves of fanfiction in general, and he also lets people do "non-canon" (read: they make up their own stuff, just like in fanfic only they get paid for it) comics and novels based on his stories all the time.

Perhaps, if anyone here is a member of Whedonesque, they could post there and maybe Joss would notice and we could talk to him about it, though? That would certainly be a good idea, methinks.

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OTHER FOLK: Anyone else who wants to participate and has something to provide. If nothing else, we'll probably need a small handful of folk to read everything to make sure we're not spiraling into madness.

Ooooh!

I VOLUNTEER TO BETA-READ!

And maybe do a little site design, if you haven't got anybody yet for it. Because the idea of designing it like a DVD is really clever!

I'd love to do something like that, it'd be a fun challenge for me.

I'll also be emailing this to you.

-Runa27

Can't Stop The Signal.

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Sunday, December 18, 2005 12:03 PM

BLACKRABBIT

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I think Inara would need a new purpose to be on the ship, since she likely will be kicked from the guild for aiding the crew in thier movie adventure.

You mean that poor young Companion kidnapped by those brigands?

If I was the Guild, that would be my first argument.

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:50 AM

GWEK

Hey, folks. Just wanted to let y'all know that the first epiosde that sprang out of the thread is available in the Blue Sun Room.

If you'd like to have pdfs of the episodes mailed to you directly, e-mail me at gwek@optonline.net.

Also, we're still working out art and technical (web site) details, so if anyone would like to get involved, please contact me.

Keep flying!

"Here's how it might have been..."

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Friday, December 30, 2005 9:43 AM

EXODUS2310

I take it dialogue in <> is chinese? Do you know this website: http://fireflychinese.home.att.net/ every chinese phrase used in the series.

I liked it, for the most part characterizations are spot on, but I dont like the thing about dancing between River and Jayne. It seems unlikely.

I do like that you went into the backstory of Haven, and even had a little bit of a dig at Books past. Was nice seeing Bernable there and I imagine the scene at the end with the turrets would have been cool.

Are the episodes to be released weekly or when theyre done?

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Friday, December 30, 2005 9:46 AM

GWEK

Thanks for the feedback, Exodus.

Yes, we'll be releasing episode a week until Season One is finished and will then take a brief hiatus before beginning Season Two in Spring of 2006.

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Friday, December 30, 2005 9:58 AM

EXODUS2310

How many episodes in total for season 1? Well how many are you producing? Also, will the site/forum be online soon or when Season 2 is ready?

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Friday, December 30, 2005 10:07 AM

GWEK

There will be a total of 7 episodes for Season One. When added to the 2 hour pilot and 13 existing episodes, this will round us out the the standard 22 episode season.

The web site will definitely up before season two (which will be a full 22 episodes) begins.

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Friday, December 30, 2005 10:13 AM

EXODUS2310

Cool can't wait to see it. Have any details on the next episode?

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Friday, December 30, 2005 10:18 AM

GWEK

Next episode is called "Hero Complex".

Don't want to say too much, but Jayne will get a fair amount of "screentime."

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Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:30 AM

EXODUS2310

Is there any specific place to comment on the episode? To chat to others who have read it?

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Saturday, December 31, 2005 6:53 AM

GWEK

Right now, you can offer feedback in the Blue Sun Room (per act, but not per episode as a whole).

You can also join the livejournal:

http://www.livejournal.com/community/virtual_firefly

Our official web site will be up in early '06.

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Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:50 AM

EXODUS2310

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=16029

Seems there another virtual continuation out. Also, will this be making the front page of FF fans? You should email other sites about the series.

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Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:56 AM

GWEK

Any publicity is great. How do we get on the front page?

Also open to suggestions about sites to mention this on.

(I'm a writer, not a publicist...)

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Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:00 AM

GWEK

By the way, it's no surprise that there's more than one virtual continuation right now (in the wake of the renewed popularity becauseo f the movie). I'm pretty sure there's a third one starting up any day, as well.

Each seems to have a slightly different take (for example, I think we're the only ones who'll be completing Season One and re-imagining the movie as if it were done as part of the TV series), and it's a big 'Verse out there.

More Firefly is good for everybody!

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 8:46 AM

BELACGOD

Speaking of accessing this on the livejournal, we really need someone who's good with design to design us a community page. I'll buy the paid subscription (have been looking for an excuse to do that for a while), just need someone with the savvy.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 9:56 AM

GWEK

For those who are interested, the second episode (Hero Complex) is currently available in pdf. I'll appear in the Blue Sun Room and livejournal soon.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 10:07 AM

EXODUS2310

Have you emailed it out yet?

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 10:10 AM

GWEK

The pdf for 1x17 has been mailed out. Anyone who wants it can e-mail gwek@optonline.net. If you previously requested that you be added to the mailing list but have not yet received it, please let me know.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 1:43 PM

SMAUG

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but I dont like the thing about dancing between River and Jayne. It seems unlikely.

I had posted this on their site.. but I thought I would post it here also....

Something going on between Jayne/River seems to be so far people's first negative reaction to this script... and it might have been mine first.. until I thought about it. I don't know if the author was really implying anything between Jayne and River or even planting the seeds of anything between Jayne/River, but really... the more I thought about it... why not?

Think about it this way.. I don't see anything ever happening between Janye and River anytime soon.. or in the near future. However... what about a few years down the line? When River, let's say.. would be like 23-25 years old? Then the more I think about it.. the more I COULD see at least the possiblity of Jayne and River together. Because think about this: Right now.. River is a tramatized teenager who because of what she has gone through is probably (even right now after the events of the movie) probably even LESS emotionally mature than she would have been by the age of 17 had none of this happened to her. She may be a genious-kick-butt killing machine.. who can read minds.. but that doesn't mean emotionally she is where she should be at 17. Jayne.. obviosly is very immature emotionally. So on an EMOTIONAL level.. they are probably pretty close to each other. Meaning they both have a lot of learning/growing to do. Thus their emotional age is pretty close to one another. Jayne has already shown that he CAN grow and mature. He has potential. Don't get me wrong.. he is always going to be "Jayne".. but as a character he has tremendous potential for emotional growth. Both he and River have the most growth to do.

I always saw Jayne and Mal as sort of weights at the end of a balance. Is Mal going to ever be pushed over the edge and become more like Jayne? Or is Jayne going to grow and mature and become more like Mal? Without Inara.. I believe Mal would become more like Jayne. I believe it will be Inara that will take the pain and bitterness and anger from Mal.. and finally allow him to feel true pleasure again. And as long as that happens.. as long as Inara doesn't leave.. and Jayne doesn't get himself killed.. I believe it will be Jayne that will eventually become more like Mal, growing tremendously emotionally... over time. A long long long time.. :) lol

So if he makes it.. what could be more fitting for Jayne's crowning achievment of becoming a man (emotionally) to know and find true love? He certainly knows what pleasure and sex is... but hasn't a clue of what love is. Now River.. also has a lot of emotional growth to do. So yes.. there may be a 25 year difference between them.. but emotionally.. they are much on the same level.

Now also consider this: A 25 year age difference between, let's say, a a 23 year old River and a 48 year old Jayne would be a pretty major obstical in our world that WE live in. She would just be in college and just starting her life.. and he would pretty much been through all that and would be more interested in other things... not partying every weekend with friends, etc. For the most part anyway. Yet even in our world.. a 25 year age difference happens (and sometimes works), thus isn't out of the question. But now look at THEIR world.. physically.. they are both living the same world.. they both have the same concerns.. they both work to live day to day just to survive and live another day.. to fly again., etc. And as long as River has to stay on the run from the alliance.. this will be her life. And Jayne probably can't see it any other way.. meaning.. he's not exactly going to ever settle down on a core planet with a nice 9-5 day job or anything. So River is not exactly going to want (or even have the oportunity) to go out and party with the girl friends or go bar hopping.. or etc. etc. etc.. that might be the typical life of a young 20 something. They both work to survive, so they have that in common. And they work and live together. Also.. neighter of them, being constantly on the move/run.. arn't exactly going to have a lot of opportunity to ever really meet and actually fall in love with anyone else. Sad.. but true. Simon may have not have much tact.. but that doesn't mean that there is some truth to what he told Kaylee about her "sort of being the only women in the universe". That doesn't mean that they don't belong together though.

And sure.. one night stands will present themselves from time to time... and maybe even River might experience one or two to sow her own oats before ever a time that her and Jayne could ever come together. But neither of them exactly has many other opportunities for love... which again.. doesn't mean that they wouldn't belong together.

Now also consider this. As far as the men that River is constanly in contact with... Jayne is unlike any other man. He is totally different from probably any man in her childhood before the alliance got a hold of her (her father, brother, teachers, relatives, neighbors, etc.). He is totally different than any other man on Serenity. And River knows this better than anyone.. being a physic and all. That difference... as she sexually matures.. may become very very attrative to her at some point... especially when she "reads" the emotional growth that (hopefully) Jayne will experince while she is also emotionally maturing. No matter what women say.. there always seems to be at least a part of every woman attracted to the "bad boy". :) lol.. They all seem to have that "gene" or whatever.. just they all grow out of it at a different age.. doesn't mean it's still not always there though.

Now also consider this.. would it take a woman... physically equal.. for Jayne to truely respect and fall in love with and not just see as a piece of property or an object? Don't get me wrong.. he still probably would see River as his "property".. but it would be something way deeper than let's say.. how he temporarily felt about Saffron. And what would be a better woman for Jayne than one that could physically kick his ass.. yet visually is graceful.. beatiful.. and appears as a fragile 100 pound woman? I think it would be very important to Jayne (for his ego) for a woman he would love to not look like she could kick his ass.. even if she could. I don't believe Jayne would be attracted to and certainly not fall in love with a she-hulk. Plus River being able to read his mind.. could get him to grow up emotionally... REAL QUICK. And who knows... as she matures and grows into a sexual being.. she may even like a lot of the thoughts he has... the "bad boy" thing may be a very strong attraction for her.. being so so different than any other man she was around growing up... or even on Serenity. Also.. Jayne.. being a trained ape without the training.. isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer... but River is a genious... but has little experince in the black. River could teach Jayne the "books".. and Jayne could teach River life in the black. Where one is strong the other is weak and vice versa. River may NEVER totally be sane.. she may always have her crazy moments.. which I don't think really bother Jayne that much. as long as she's not trying to kill him..

lol.. I really don't think it would bother him.. if he loved her.

And consider this... what would be a more poetic justice... than for Jayne.. to finally "emotionally" become a man.. by learing about... finding.. and discovering true love... by falling in love with the very woman he had once wanted to stab in the back and turn over to the alliance.. just for money. And then later still wanted her and Simon gone to get them out of their hair. And also for Jayne to learn that there is something infinatly more valuable than money.. from the very woman he tried to stab in the back? What could be more poetic?

I could see that as a very good ending to Jayne's character growth.

Now don't get me wrong.. I am not saying this SHOULD happen.. just that the more I think about it.. the more I think.. it COULD happen.. and I certainly don't think it would happen tomorrow.. I am thinking more like if something like this were to happen.. it would be a few (several) years down the line of the story. There needs to be a lot.. we would need to see a lot.. to get us from that point A to Q. Just the more I think about it.. the more I see the possibility.. that it... COULD happen..

Smaug.. :)

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 7:54 AM

GWEK

Thanks for the comments, Smaug. My personal take is that, through season one (especially the latter half), there's a strong dynamic between River and Jayne. Doesn't matter what kind it is. It's just a "connection" of some sort, and, heck, it can be fun to play with that a little.

As a reminder for folks, this project is in full swing, with two episodes available ("The Big Stick" and "Hero Complex"), and a third on the way in a few days.

You can find the epiosdes in the Blue Sun Room, at our living journal site, or at stillflying.net.

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Monday, January 9, 2006 5:01 AM

SMAUG

Gwek,

Yea.. I understand.. like I said.. not even something that I think SHOULD happen.. just that I COULD see it happening.. and IF it did.. would be several years in the future. Like if the series was never cancelled.. I could see it happening at like the end of 7th season or something like that..

Smaug..

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Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:32 AM

EXODUS2310

Have just read 1x17. Another interesting episode. Featured Niska, another one of our familars. It was a Jayne centered episode and quite an interesting one. I can't wait for the others. Although during River torture, would have been more interesting if she felt she was reliving what she experienced back at the academy.

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:00 AM

SAFFRONESQUE

Hey, Gwek;

I know I'm chiming in late (longtime reader, first-time joiner, ya know!). I greatly appreciate your efforts to move this whole thing forward and listen to our blathering! Shiny! Here's my 2 cents:

No one has really discussed crew replacements. I know it's a sensitive subject, but they need a new pilot. With all the talk about Chinese being the dominant culture in the 'verse, they really should introduce a Chinese character, probably a man, to take Wash's place. There would be a lot of rich plot ideas stemming from his hiring and becoming part of the crew (trust issues, competency, even romance, not to mention his own backstory.)

In my mind, River was more or less "cured" at the end of Serenity and appeared almost normal. The Alliance is no longer interested in her and Simon. Her psychic powers might be used as an opportunity to delve into the whole Blue Sun thing (2x2, hands of blue, yada yada). Maybe Simon might yearn to return to his old life, who knows (and break Kaylee's heart yet again)?

We saw a much darker side of Mal in the movie; there's got to be more to that than just losing the war. Would love to see some prequel stuff on that; what drove him to become an Independent, etc. And please, maybe some romance for him? He either gets it on with Inara or moves on. That is one tightly wound man.

Again, you rock! Can't offer much to the effort except that I am an internet editor by trade...If you need to make things shorter, I'm your gal!!

"My days of underestimating you are certainly coming to a middle."

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Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:10 AM

GWEK

We have a lot of writers and idea folk, but can always use more editors. If you're interested in becoming actively involved in that capacity, shoot me an e-mail at gwek@optonline.net.

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Friday, January 13, 2006 6:42 AM

EXODUS2310

Hey, when the website looking for a proper layout? And I'll get to reading the latest episode.

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Friday, January 13, 2006 7:00 AM

GWEK

We have a "skip" week next week to focus on the web site a little. I don't want to speak for our tech staff, but the "real" version of the site will be up within the next few weeks (possibly to coincide with the next new episode, the week of January 24th).

If folks haven't spotted it yet, our third episode, "Property Rights," is available in the Blue Sun Room and as a pdf. It should be up on stillflying.net shortly.

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Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:59 AM

EXODUS2310

I've finished this one. Started off rather slow, but I stuck with it and thoroughly enjoyed this. I find the characterization for River spot on and really enjoyed her moments.

I'm liking the complications between the relationship of Kaylee and Simon.

I must ask though. I assume we're gonna get an episode featuring new people soon? not just reusing characters or setting up the ones from the film?

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Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:08 PM

GWEK

Glad you enjoyed the episode. As with the previous three episodes, you'll be seeing a mix of familiar faces (like Badger, Niska and Haymer) and new ones (like Hicks, Gleason, Ana, Brian, Newstead, Barrett, etc.).

It was an intentional creative decision to use the remainder of season five to give closure to some of the existing characters from the show. Obviously, we won't be seeing Adelai Niska again, and now that Haymer has the Lassiter back, he has no reason to be in the crew's world.

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:00 AM

EXODUS2310

I've looked at your site, I like the menu and the colours.

However, for your episodes page, I'd have thought youd have gone for something a little less plain. Like this for example: http://www.stargatedestiny.net/episodes.php

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:10 AM

GWEK

The web site is a work in progress, being gradually refined. Thanks for the feedback and please keep it coming!

www.stillflying.net

"Here's how it might have been..."

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Monday, January 30, 2006 12:08 PM

EXODUS2310

Being the lazy sod I am, I've only just gotten round to starting the latest episode. I love the way you guys are excellent with your characterisations.

BTW, when are you folk getting up your own forum?

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Monday, January 30, 2006 1:19 PM

GWEK

Working on it. We should have everything up and running in time to coincide with the Season Two premiere, if not sooner.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:44 AM

EXODUS2310

Well, IMO that was the best episode out of the four. I really loved the characters, you guys are getting better at handling them.

Especially River, Kaylee, Book and Simon. Some of the dialogue is off a points.

I really liked the moment when they named the moon. Lol, made me life. Nice little tribute to "this land".

Any info on the next episode?

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:04 PM

GWEK

The next episode will be available later this week. Unfortunately, we're running a day or two behind schedule.

Without revealing too much, the basic plot goes something like this:

Mal takes a seemingly-simple job, and things go wrong. :)

"Here's how it might have been..."

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Saturday, February 4, 2006 2:34 AM

EXODUS2310

I liked this one, not as much as the last one but I liked it. Interesting how Zoe did the thing she did.

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Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:10 AM

EXODUS2310

http://www.firefly-tvs.com/

You should consider doing promo things like these guys.

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Monday, February 13, 2006 9:41 AM

EXODUS2310

Ok finished the latest episode. Quite a dark one. I was quite surprised with the ending, especially as I had not read the comic.

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Friday, February 17, 2006 11:48 PM

EXODUS2310

Well I finished the last episode. Really enjoyed it, had that quality season finale feel to it.

PS, am I the only one who comments on the episodes or something?

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:35 AM

EXODUS2310

Any ETA on your official forums yet?

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:13 AM

GWEK

We're working on various components of the web site, and the plan is to have the forum up and running before we begin Season Two. We should have a date for the beginning of Season Two sometime in the next week or two.

In the meantime, look for contest-related announcement later today or tomorrow!

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 1:42 AM

EXODUS2310

Hows it all going? You mentioned needing new writers and various other things in your e-mail, how isit all?

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 8:00 AM

GWEK

We've more than doubled our stable of writers since Season One! Right now, we're looking closely at the first run of episodes, and trying to figure out what our release date for our next episode will be so that we can remain on-schedule throughout the season.

Should have more information shortly.

Thanks for the continued interest!

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 5:39 PM

DRAGONLOVE

I heard about these script stories the podcast "Firefly Talk". I am behind on the episodes so I was late getting the information on your virtual season stuff. I think this sounds very intrestering. I went to your website and since your fourm is not working yet, I thought I would come here and just let you know where I heard about you. I will now be going and reading the season 1 scripts you guys have all done. Really excited! I applaud your efforts in this project. Good Luck!

ps - if you want to get word out about your site you might want to consider sending emails to the other fanfiction sites and see if they can't give you a shout out. Also, there are several different podcasts that might give you a mention. As I stated earlier, 'Firefly Talk' is a good place to go. Also, you should try 'The Signal', Geekshow.us (they LOVE firefly/serenity and would probably promot you, and the Dragonpage - Michael and Evo. These are just a few podcasts that I think would give you a helping hand. Again Good Luck!

Dragonlove

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Friday, March 17, 2006 11:12 AM

EXODUS2310

http://www.serenitymovie.com/nonflash_site/index.html

I thought thatd be a good sort of website layout for you guys.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:19 AM

REALWORLDDOIHAVETO

I'm in. Already have a lot of ideas especially around Inara and that mysterious "suicide kit"

Sarah

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