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Thursday, December 10, 2015 5:49 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Hi Rappy, I've been looking for the thread in which you give advice on how the terrorist threat can be overcome. I didn't get a chance to read your whole post, and now I can't find it again altho I've looked pretty intensively.

In it, you write (to the best of my recollection) that the USA basically needs to take over and remake Iraq. (I don't know if that extends to Syria or not, I didn't get that far.)

My most immediate response it that it would cost far too much for the USA.

But my second, and perhaps more on-point response, is I'm not sure that our government WANTS to destroy the terrorist threat. I don't mean just Obama, I mean all the way back thru Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Carter.

Sorry everyone for the random thread. I really try not to create them.

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Thursday, December 10, 2015 6:04 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sorry everyone for the random thread. I really try not to create them.

My random answer cut-and-pasted from elsewhere:

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In case you missed it, here is the TRANSCRIPT

THE PRESIDENT: We’re working with Turkey to seal its border with Syria. And we are cooperating with Muslim-majority countries — and with our Muslim communities here at home — to counter the vicious ideology that ISIL promotes online.

Obama mentioned Turkey once in the speech. He ought to have said more:

In the region, everyone knows how Isis could be eliminated. All it would really take would be to unleash the largely Kurdish forces of the YPG (Democratic Union party) in Syria, and PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ party) guerillas in Iraq and Turkey. These are, currently, the main forces actually fighting Isis on the ground. They have proved extraordinarily militarily effective and oppose every aspect of Isis’s reactionary ideology.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/22/kurds-shaping-middle-eas
t-syria-autonomy

But instead, YPG-controlled territory in Syria finds itself placed under a total embargo by Turkey, and PKK forces are under continual bombardment by the Turkish air force. Not only has Erdogan done almost everything he can to cripple the forces actually fighting Isis; there is considerable evidence that his government has been at least tacitly aiding Isis itself.

It might seem outrageous to suggest that a Nato member like Turkey would in any way support an organisation that murders western civilians in cold blood. That would be like a Nato member supporting al-Qaida. But in fact there is reason to believe that Erdogan’s government does support the Syrian branch of al-Qaida (Jabhat al-Nusra) too, along with any number of other rebel groups that share its conservative Islamist ideology.
www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/opinion/americas-dangerous-bargain-with-tur
key.html

The Institute for the Study of Human Rights at Columbia University has compiled a long list of evidence of Turkish support for Isis in Syria.
www.huffingtonpost.com/david-l-phillips/research-paper-isis-turke_b_61
28950.html

Obama missed an opportunity to talk Turkey. It would have only taken two seconds.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/turkey-cut-islamic-state
-supply-lines-erdogan-isis?CMP=share_btn_fb

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Friday, December 11, 2015 10:23 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I agree with you, SECOND, I just couldn't get to posting fast enough.

The problem is, WHY didn't Obama mention Turkey more often? Does anyone think it's because he doesn't know what Turkey's doing?

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