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More than half (51%) of Muslims in America believe they should "have the choice of being governed according to Sharia." Only 39% of those polled said that Muslims in the U.S. should be subject to American courts. Nearly a quarter believed that, "It is legitimate to use violence to punish those who give offense to Islam by, for example, portraying the prophet Mohammed." Nearly one-fifth of Muslim respondents said that the use of violence in the U.S. is justified in order to make Sharia the law of the land in this country. – Poll commissioned by the Center for Security Policy, Washington, D.C.

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Stupidest thing I ever heard of. Life's too short to waste time on crap like that.

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The assault that took place on a train going from Sendlinger Tor station to the Munich city center terminal was recorded on a mobile phone by Munich citizen Tom Roth, who uploaded it to his Facebook page. [The faces of the attackers are CLEARLY VISIBLE in the video= SIGNY] Once the train arrived at the station, Tom Roth called the police, but law enforcement officers said there was nothing they could do.

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WTF? Now you believe social media? I though you thought Facebook and Twitter were shite? Bissen sie ein heuchler?

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http://4freedoms.com/group/argumentation/forum/topics/sea-slugs-and-wh
y-the-left-love-islam
Sea Slugs, and why the Left love Islam

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1098673/pg1
Why Liberals Admire and Romanticize Islam

Bill Maher: Richard Dawkins
http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-588363-post-11251010.html

Moral Relativism, Religion, and the Political Left
http://www.atheistrev.com/2013/07/moral-relativism-religion-and-politi
cal.html

Have you guys seen this new "regressive left" meme floating around reddit and...
http://sheekyforums.com/thread/58269680/politics/have-you-guys-seen-th
is-new-regressive-left-meme.html



Why Do Liberals Refuse to Criticize Islam?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/why-do-liberals-refuse-to-criticize-islam.
html


The British Left’s Hypocritical Embrace of Islamism
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016141505

Nick Cohen and Dave Rubin Discuss the Regressive Left, Free Speech, Radical Islam
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1159031

Former Islamic extremist: ‘The far Left is helping ISIS’
http://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=164424


http://spengler.atimes.net/viewtopic.php?t=21694&start=150
Regress of regressivism, documented

Siding with the oppressor: the pro-Islamist left - Maryam Namazie
https://libcom.org/forums/general/siding-oppressor-pro-islamist-left-m
aryam-namazie-17082013

Dutch Journalist Raped by Taliban: They Respected Me
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/T2DC3K6RVJJN17MQQ

an ISIS supporter in Sweden calls brother Rachid

http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=27860.0

Judgment at Amsterdam
http://forum.objectivismonline.com/index.php?/topic/21772-judgment-at-
amsterdam/



The Left Hates It When Real People Make Their Opinions Known
http://www.fisheaters.com/forums/index.php?topic=3470503.0


The Guardian Shuts Down Reader Comments as the Left’s War on Dissent Continues
by Allum Bokhari
1 Feb 2016

The Guardian has announced it will close comments underneath articles on race, immigration, and Islam. The reason, according to the ultra-progressive newspaper, is that such topics attract an “unacceptable level of toxic commentary.”

“The overwhelming majority of these comments tend towards racism, abuse of vulnerable subjects, author abuse and trolling” said Guardian executive editor Mary Hamilton. “The resulting conversations below the line bring very little value but cause consternation and concern among both our readers and our journalists.”

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The overwhelming majority" of people's comments at Guardian are ones the editors don't like, that they characterize as "racist." "Racist" means nothing these days in typical discourse. For ex., I love how people talk about "racist" attitudes toward Muslims, as if "Islam" is genetic, a matter of biological race. And, of course, it's "racist" if European and European-derived (EED) people want to protect their cultures, pay attention to little things like borders (you know, those things without which you can't have a country), to not want to play host to a financially parasitical underclass who suck up in benefits more than they produce, to not want to have to "imprima el numero dos" in order to pay a bill by phone, to not want their wages driven down by cheap labor -- and to not have to compete for jobs against a larger pool of competitors in the first place. And so forth. (of course, if Jewish people in Israel want all the above sort of thing, it's OK. Because Hitler.)


The Guardian’s new policy stipulates that comments will only be opened under articles covering those topics if moderators “have the capacity to support the conversation” and “believe a positive debate [is] possible.” They did not explain what a “positive debate” on immigration would look like. Readers are welcome to take guesses in our comments section, which will of course be open as usual.

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A "positive debate" to these progs could only involve things like trying to figure out which cities should serve as "sanctuary cities," or how to best go about allowing Muslim men to retain their precious and beautiful culture while not being quite so "rough" with women, and how the media should deal with stories about Muslim raping and blowing things up without making Muslims feel unwelcome or inciting violence from the Idiot Bible and Gun People.


This is another chapter in the left’s long-running war on comments sections, which we have previously covered at Breitbart Tech. Once upon a time, comments sections were welcomed by the left as the a huge leap forward for democracy and free speech. “For the first time ever, we are thinking aloud, unfiltered by mass media gatekeepers,” wrote a former Hillary Clinton advisor in 2008. “Never before has the global discourse been so accessible, recursive, and durable.”

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"Recursive"? What does that mean in this context?

Anyway, it's hilarious that these Leftists apparently really, truly thought that normal people think the way they do, that the see Leftist solutions as just "common sense," isn't it? They are so incredibly out of touch with -- well, reality, that it's almost sad.


The Guardian, too, was part of this left-wing adulation of open commentary on the internet. They continue to call their commentary pages “comment is free,” after the late C.P Scott’s dictum, “Comment is free, but facts are sacred.” It’s become a point of mockery for the paper’s critics in recent years, as the removal of readers’ comments (no matter how many facts they contain) grows ever more severe.

The left’s embrace of comments sections lasted only as long as commenters agreed with them. Once the masses started challenging the elites above the comment line, it was only a matter of time before the innate authoritarianism of the regressive left showed itself.
http://www.fisheaters.com/forums/


http://www.vgf.com/forums/threads/the-progressive-vs-regressive-debate
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You'd be surprsied what kinds of attitudes you can find left and right - I've met a lot of people who seem to hold what I call "Neovictorian" beliefs

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A good way to juj any organization iz to think uv it az a person. In that lite, most organizationz look like slow witted ill behaved 5 yir oldz.

Or worse.

Corporationz, guverments, relijunz, charityz. Pick wutever just randomly, like Mexico or General Motorz, giv it a nikname such az Todd or Becky, then grade its interactionz with the world.

Little Timmy(Islam), for exampl, iz a terrible tooz toddler, prone to violent tantrumz over the slitest provocation. WA! Tommy drew a nasty pictur uv me! WA! And Kristen didnt do wut I told her! WA! I'm going to blow up everybody! WA!

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Should islam be DISRESPECTED

German Imam blames Cologne rape victims; 'they wore perfume'

France crack down?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/28/france-cracks-down-on-
islamic-radicalism-after-par/?page=all

I support muslims as individuals, I support their human rights however I do not support their stupid religion
I support genuine refugees, people truly wanting a better life outside of religious tyrants and religious wars, however I do not support unchecked illegal islamic immigration into Europe and the USA.
If they want Sharia Law they can go to Mecca or Tehran

Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Dawkins and Rushdie might have been early voices

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... Why? Why am I saying all this and what does it have to do with Muslims? There are over 1 billion Muslims in this world, if they were all bad evil motherfuckers, the world would tilt towards Syria and the like. There have been Muslims living in this country for many, many years...and it's now that 'suddenly' that 'we' should no longer tolerate them. Of course you have bad ones, evil, vicious motherfuckers. But ever since the Pilgrims first landed on Plymouth Rock there have been evil motherfuckers of all kinds landing here. I say, point out the fuckers and let's hang 'em. String them up by the Statue of Liberty (which was given to us by the French by the way). I suggest that most that come here seek freedom, in all shapes and sizes. In all it's glory.

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I support muslims as individuals, I support their human rights however I do not support their stupid religion I support genuine refugees, people truly wanting a better life outside of religious tyrants and religious wars, however I do not support unchecked illegal islamic immigration into Europe and the USA. If they want Sharia Law they can go to Mecca or Tehran.

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My grandma came with her values here to pursue a dream. A piece of her is in me, and I say that we are good people.

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But, and I say this with hope in my breath, we, for the most part, have good people in this country. Like my grandmother, who believed in hard work and family - something that's been instilled in me since I was a kid. I was also taught fair play and manners (okay, sometimes I fuck up the manners part), but overall I'm a good American... In loving memory of my grandmother, I am a motherfucking American.

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Duznt bug me at all. Just taking the opportunity to squeez in a Lebowski ref.

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Why Do Liberals Refuse to Criticize Islam?

Do they? I hadn't noticed that, myself. In any case there are 'types' of liberals - from 100% pure neocons-in-democrat clothing like Hillary, to people who are on the leftish side of anarchy. If you hadn't noticed, the neocons are running the State Department, which means they're running US foreign policy, which means the media is on board with the message; and probably Merkel as well since there seems to be a German submission to the US agenda. So, the lack of official government or media outrage is a neocon agenda.

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... Why? Why am I saying all this and what does it have to do with Muslims? There are over 1 billion Muslims in this world, if they were all bad evil motherfuckers, the world would tilt towards Syria and the like. There have been Muslims living in this country for many, many years...and it's now that 'suddenly' that 'we' should no longer tolerate them. Of course you have bad ones, evil, vicious motherfuckers. But ever since the Pilgrims first landed on Plymouth Rock there have been evil motherfuckers of all kinds landing here. I say, point out the fuckers and let's hang 'em. String them up by the Statue of Liberty (which was given to us by the French by the way). I suggest that most that come here seek freedom, in all shapes and sizes. In all it's glory.

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It seems to me that you two are saying the same thing. You both would like to treat Muslim immigrants as individuals, depending on whether each one is willing to follow the law of the land in the USA (which is, among other things, a secular nation not following sharia law). So, maybe you should make peace with each other.

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You sound rightly proud of your maternal grandma. As you should be.

My maternal grandma came to this nation in 1917-8. She grew up on a farm on Poland, was abused by her (literally) evil stepmother, ran away from home at the tender age of 15 to become a hod-carrier helping to build the cobblestone streets, and then an understudy maid in a rich family's home, where she learned fancy Polish cooking. At 21, she emigrated to the USA in an arranged marriage, where she became a stepmother herself and had four children of her own. She was a strong, strong-minded, hardworking Polack who demanded much of her children (and stepchildren!) ... and her husband ... As demanding as she was as a mother, she flowed pure strong love to her grandchildren, and we basked in it. We remember her love to this day, decades later. AND her cooking!

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But, and I say this with hope in my breath, we, for the most part, have good people in this country. Like my grandmother, who believed in hard work and family - something that's been instilled in me since I was a kid. I was also taught fair play and manners (okay, sometimes I fuck up the manners part), but overall I'm a good American... In loving memory of my grandmother, I am a motherfucking American.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

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I want to make sure my point gets across. Besides I've been a gentleman all my life and it seems no one cares about manners and respect, so I cuss a little. But I use it to dramatic effect. Mostly when I write here in RWED.

So with appo-polly-lagies to the faint-hearted, that's my way of putting an
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n'es pa?


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I want to make sure my point gets across. Besides I've been a gentleman all my life and it seems no one cares about manners and respect, so I cuss a little. But I use it to dramatic effect. Mostly when I write here in RWED.

So with appo-polly-lagies to the faint-hearted, that's my way of putting an
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Excuse me if I correct you for a moment SGG . But there is "t" on the end of "n'est pa".

Just thought I'd bring in my French-Canadian great grandfather.

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Yes, you did SGG. I think I did alright in French in High School. But I do sort of have an ear for the language. I can understand a certain amount of written French or spoken French.

You and Sigm, should be proud of your grandmothers for being accepted by their adopted country.
Heck, even my mother's mostly Irish family was accepted though it would have been a slog.
I do think that my Scot grandfather(my father's father) did the right thing in coming up to Canada after marrying my Metis grandmother. At least here being Metis was more respectful than she would have possibly gotten in the US, her home country.

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I want to make sure my point gets across. Besides I've been a gentleman all my life and it seems no one cares about manners and respect, so I cuss a little. But I use it to dramatic effect. Mostly when I write here in RWED.

So with appo-polly-lagies to the faint-hearted, that's my way of putting an
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n'es pa?


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Just thought I'd bring in my French-Canadian great grandfather.

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Yes, you did SGG. I think I did alright in French in High School. But I do sort of have an ear for the language. I can understand a certain amount of written French or spoken French.

You and Sigm, should be proud of your grandmothers for being accepted by their adopted country.
Heck, even my mother's mostly Irish family was accepted though it would have been a slog.
I do think that my Scot grandfather(my father's father) did the right thing in coming up to Canada after marrying my Metis grandmother. At least here being Metis was more respectful than she would have possibly gotten in the US, her home country.

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That's the problem with this country, any new immigrants are treated with disdain. Hell, even the natives are treated like second class citizens. So I laugh (not that I find it funny) whenever I see one of these "Cliven Cowboys" talk about "public" lands should be public - come on now! You
have some nerve talking that smack when this land was occupied by those
who revered it most and hogged it less - the Native Americans. Talk about
misguided fools and ill-conceived notions. A man died because of his belief
that this land was "his" land.........no, sorry this land was actually free
and belonged to no one. The notion of property is a European one.

What arrogance and downright stupidity. They break the law because they want to receive "welfare" from the government; the very thing they claim
to be against. It is that attitude that feeds into the mind frame of privilege and exclusivity - a type of prejudice. The "this is mine" mentality that lends itself to bigotry and hate of anything new; a
rewriting of history to lay claim to something that never really truly existed - original ownership. If anyone can claim that it's the Native Americans.

Imagine for a moment we send astronauts to another planet, let's say Mars,
and we plunk down our flag and claim it for the good old USA. But then we
find that the planet is already inhabited by a humanoid life form, who show us their hospitality and give us the tour. We, in turn, show our greediness and take over the planet as our own. I dare say that wouldn't sit well with the natives; especially if we find out that underneath all that rock there's gold. According to Bundy, that claim is proper and lawful; they weren't using it anyway.

Oh well! Ces't la vie!


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You are not funny McGee.

Yes, new immigrants have problems.

The reason the Irish left in droves was caused by a little thing called "The Potato Famine". Which was also compounded by the English overlords exporting food out of the country that could have fed the Irish instead of the English Aristocracy. Ireland lost population to starvation and then more to immigration.

My mother's family fled because of that, so they arrived in America when it was a fledgling.

I take pride in being part American Indian. In knowing that some of my family has been on this continent for 20,000 years.

My anger I turn towards the churches, the first being the Catholic. Residental schools that were designed to strip of us of our identities and languages.

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Islam is a senseless lie and a scourge on all humanity. While religions all are based on the fairy tale of there being an over seeing God™, Islam in particular goes the extra mile to impose their imaginary friend's will be done here, on Earth, by humans, to other humans.

You want to live your life by what ever rules and customs you seem fit , that's fine and dandy. But once you go lobbing off heads or stoning to death those who DON'T follow your cult views, and who have done nothing to infringe upon the lives, freedom or property of others, then I have to say I reject you, and your way of life.

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Everything you criticize Islam for, other religions have done in their own time and place. I can't think of any religion that could be said to be innocent.

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While the shootings in San Bernardino were terrible and I have great sympthy for the victims and wish those injured a speedy recovery I think we should also cover the terrible happenings in Africa by Islamists

Boko Haram burns kids alive in Nigeria, 86 dead: officials

Associated Press By ISMAIL ALFA and HARUNA UMAR
8 hours ago

DALORI, Nigeria (AP) — A survivor hidden in a tree says he watched Boko Haram extremists firebomb huts and heard the screams of children burning to death, among 86 people officials say died in the latest attack by Nigeria's homegrown Islamic extremists.
http://news.yahoo.com/boko-haram-burns-kids-alive-northeast-nigeria-wi
tness-113440486.html#

Scores of charred corpses and bodies with bullet wounds littered the streets from Saturday night's attack on Dalori village and two nearby camps housing 25,000 refugees, according to survivors and soldiers at the scene just 5 kilometers (3 miles) from Maiduguri, the birthplace of Boko Haram and the biggest city in Nigeria's northeast.

The shooting, burning and explosions from three suicide bombers continued for nearly four hours in the unprotected area, survivor Alamin Bakura said, weeping on a telephone call to The Associated Press. He said several of his family members were killed or wounded.

The violence continued as three female suicide bombers blew up among people who managed to flee to neighboring Gamori village, killing many people, according to a soldier at the scene who insisted on anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to journalists.

Troops arrived at Dalori around 8:40 p.m. Saturday but were unable to overcome the attackers, who were better armed, said soldiers who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the press. The Boko Haram fighters only retreated after reinforcements arrived with heavier weapons, they said.

Journalists visited the carnage Sunday and spoke to survivors who complained it had taken too long for help to arrive from nearby Maiduguri, the military headquarters of the fight to curb Boko Haram. They said they fear another attack.

Eighty-six bodies were collected by Sunday afternoon, according to Mohammed Kanar, area coordinator of the National Emergency Management Agency. Another 62 people are being treated for burns, said Abba Musa of the State Specialist Hospital in Maiduguri.

Boko Haram has been attacking soft targets, increasingly with suicide bombers, since the military last year drove them out of towns and villages in northeastern Nigeria.

The 6-year Islamic uprising has killed about 20,000 people and driven 2.5 million from their homes.

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Graphic video has emerged online showing a mob of baton-wielding Islamists attacking other Muslims in a refugee camp in Greece reportedly for not observing the Ramadan fast. Early unconfirmed Kurdish media reports claim 4 men were killed and many others injured as the group of attackers entered refugee tents with weapons Friday afternoon at a crowded camp in Moria on the eastern Aegean island of Lesbos.

However, initial Greek media reporting indicates authorities are refuting rumors of the deaths, instead only confirming large clashes between Arab and Kurdish asylum seekers which resulted in injuries and evacuations.

One Greek news broadcast showed seriously injured victims being carried out of the camp, while viral video of the attack itself appears to show up to three bloodied men lying motionless on the ground with attackers carrying large metal batons standing over them, which could suggest the early reports of fatalities are indeed accurate.

The UK-based Kurdish Solidarity Campaign said the men were brutally attacked by Islamists in the refugee camp specifically "for not observing Ramadan." The Kurdish rights group identified at least three Kurds among the dead, while Iraq-based Kurdistan 24 identified a 60-year old man as among those brutally beaten, his legs broken after being hit with metal bars.

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