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Saturday, October 30, 2004 6:03 AM
COBBOFCANTON
Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:24 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Quote:Originally posted by JaynezTown: The words Bush , Smart and Economics shouldn't really be put together Got this one on another debate QUOTE The IMF warned that increased federal debt from the deficits would make funding social security and healthcare more difficult.Robert Rubin, former treasury secretary under Bill Clinton, along with other senior economists, published a report warning that the Bush administration's record deficits will have "severe adverse consequences" for all Americans and is unsustainable. Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) is sounded a note of caution "Cost estimates for the new programs range from $550 billion to $1 trillion," said CAGW President Tom Schatz. "Until the federal government brings the record deficit back down to Earth, it should not launch expensive new space programs of questionable scientific value." but there's more The Congressional Budget Office estimated that the federal budget deficit would swell to $477 billion this year, a record in terms of the sheer number of dollars involved Bush hasn't offered any more specifics for cutting the deficit, and -- according to some analysts -- what plans he has proposed seem more likely to grow the deficit, including: What's more, spending on Social Security and Medicare -- "mandatory" budget expenditures -- will skyrocket by the end of the decade, as millions of baby boomers begin to retire, de Rugy and other analysts say. "This is like running up a credit card debt and asking our kids to pay for it in the future -- it's fiscal child abuse," de Rugy said. http://home.socal.rr.com/bootbush/images/Budget%20Deficit%20JPEG.JPG how Bush almost Destroyed the Dollar !! Massive rise on health and medi care costs, a huge mess in Iraq, the pension system starting to strain, industrial output dropping, the President breaking new records by being the only leader since the Great Depression to lose jobs, huge cost of security, North Korea is pronouncing the word nuclear better than Bush. There are jobs being sent over seas to China which grows rapidly while the Euro has become a strong alternetive for investors unsure about the unsteady dollar, big scandals Worldcom, Halliburton, Enron another massive rise in Oil prices , by any standard, going from +6 trillion to -1 trillion is abysmal. Enron would be proud. and unemployement figures don't look so good and the USA's debts goin up to astronomical levels. A huge loss of 1.6 million jobs and Medicare premiums that are up by a record 17 percent. Spiraling deficits could prove a thorny reelection issue for both men, who will be able to stop this weak economic performance and the massive rise in the US debts. As Senator Bob Graham said "George Bush is managing this economy the way his friend Ken Lay managed Enron," "Whoever wins the 2004 election will have to take these deficits seriously," said Robert Bixby.
Quote:..There is a very serious health care crisis in the USA, the costs of Iraq have been massive, so will either Bush or Kerry be able to fix this? There have been more jobs lost than in any four years in the US since the Great Depression and sadly a new record with some of the worst deficits ever. Another import new item has surfaced the most wicked and biggest SOBof our times is indeed very much alive and well and videotaping in his own personal blockbuster studio again! What is disturbing is rather telling how the current operation against bin Laden is going or how either person plans to kill Osama , Bush and Kerry have instead decided to attack each other with mud slinging tactics ? !! Osama Bin Laden Is Alive, and making threats against Americans. The tone quickly devolved into partisan sniping over who would be worst for stopping the terrorist attacks...Bush and Kerry throwing the dirt, and both of them appear to be exploiting the tape of the world's biggest Terrorist for political gain. Let's hope they start taking this issue serious soon and not put political spin doctoring on it, twisting such a serious security issue and using bin Laden's tape for political gain is a bad idea and bad for the country as Bush himself said "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we " what the heck ??!!? Meanwhile there are many other madmen and tyrants out there who know that the US forces are streched and Bush is stuck in the pit of despair called Iraq. There are other dictators out there who seek to strenghten their might and bash the US policy with harsh remarks and bad actions. The Iranians have not agreed to suspend uranium enrichment, the IAEA says there are still doubts concerning Iran's nuclear ambitions including the nature of work on advanced centrifuges and plutonium separation experiments that were kept secret from the agency there are many in Washington who feel Iran is trying to get hold of more weapons such as Nuclear bombs. A number of serious questions raised by the debacle in Iraq is whether it has crippled the ability of the world's leading powers to contain dangerous states. Iran's nuclear program is a prime case in point: so far, neither threats nor inducements have persuaded its leaders to suspend their uranium enrichment program Meanwhile there is a madman in North Korea who openly defies the USA and comes out with outrageous outbursts almost every week. There a nuclear crisis with North Korea their statements have been often cryptic in the past but sometimes quiet clear...with N.Korea basically saying at times in the past " come on USA, come get us you son-of-bushes, we've got Nukes and we're going to build more" . With North Korea threatening to bolster its atomic arsenal and the Bush administration under pressure to force a breakthrough nobody knows what dictators in what part of the world will be doing next. The Europeans and Chinese also don't want more powerful nuclear bombs falling into the hands of Kim , however Europe and China can only do so much, they can only make so many threats and say so much. More often the madman in North Korea will not listen to reason, and he doesn't really see the Chinese and Europeans as an enemy but clearly speaks out with hatred against the US policy. China and South Korea would like to see North Korea dismantle its nuclear weapons programs. Pyongyang has suggested Powell's trip is merely to keep up the appearance during Bush's re-election campaign that he is committed to the six-party talks. North Korea demanded the United States drop what it sees as a confrontational policy. The tyrants of the world know uncle sam has some trouble, North Koreas might see that the USA is streched and is already fighting at certain limits so it seeks to enchance its nuclear weapons program as Iraq gives Bush a N.Korean blindspot, Iran , Sudan and others have also barked loudly at the USA while the Taliban appears to be making a strong come back. There has been a hug cost in Iraq, that might be having a very negative effect on the US economy. There si now the new charge that he failed to secure a huge cache of high-grade explosives that are now missing in Iraq. There have been other horrible videos made against the USA, one aired a video from an alleged American al-Qai'da member threatening "the streets of America will run red with blood matching drop for drop the blood of America's victims". unwillingness to stay long the dollar ahead of an uncertain pre-election weekend. Is it that the iraq war has diverted U.S. attention from clearer nuclear threats in Iran and North Korea and the capture of Osama bin Laden. The stock market and dollar seems to have taken a hit, the new video tape broadcasted on Arabic TV station al-Jazeera showed Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden accusing President George W Bush of deceiving the American people in the years following the September 2001 attacks. Bin Laden said the security of the US people laid in their own hands and not in those of any leaders. The news sent the dollar to shakey levels. US markets are very wary ahead of election , the appearance of a new video tape from Osama bin Laden has scared people. Deep-seated market concerns about the huge record of US current account deficit also continue. The pricier oil and mixed economic data left investors wary Some say ' We're in the calm before the storm -- the storm being the election and the true finance and real economic data that comes out after the election. It should be intresting to see how the election goes, the left-wing independent Ralph Nader might take votes away as people don't want to vote for either party. Well it should be a close election if anything. .
Quote:incompetence reflected in every aspects.......but 50% still approves of the Administration...
Sunday, October 31, 2004 7:56 PM
MOHRSTOUTBEARD
Quote:Originally posted by CobbofCanton: This is for MOHRSTOUTBEARD I listen to Sean Hannity every day. He has shown me the truth about Democrats. They are like "Trained monkeys, without the training". Please reply to me. I would like to educate you about the wickedness of your liberal ways. P.S. Listen to Sean Hannity and get "Hannitized". Sean Parish A.K.A CobbofCanton
Monday, November 1, 2004 2:15 AM
NEUTRINOLAD
Quote:I listen to Sean Hannity every day. He has shown me the truth about Democrats. They are like "Trained monkeys, without the training". Please reply to me. I would like to educate you about the wickedness of your liberal ways.
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