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Saturday, March 5, 2016 12:14 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:The best summation piece so far imho - a better, more objective pov: http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/putins-winning-in-syria-but-making- a-powerful-new-enemy/ Russia’s bombing of the city of Aleppo this week sent a clear message: Vladimir Putin is now in charge of the endgame in Syria. Moscow’s plan — essentially, to restore its ally Bashar al-Assad to power — is quickly becoming a reality that the rest of the world will have to accept. America, Britain and the rest may not be comfortable with Putin’s ambitions in the Middle East, or his methods of achieving them. But the idea of backing a ‘moderate opposition’ in Syria has been proved a fantasy that leaves the field to Putin and Assad.
Quote:But I see that you keep making the mistake in thinking that "the rebels" are some sort of universally holy pro-democracy force. The reality is that there are SOME that tried to fight a two-front war- against both government forces and ISIL, but they're few and far between, and many of the various rebel factions have openly allied themselves with various foreign terrorist organizations.
Quote:GSTRING: "She builds her arguments from bricks made of shit...." Has a ring to it - carry on...
Quote:Presidents Putin and Obama have both sought to intervene in the conflict militarily, but all the successes have been Russia’s.
Quote:the only thing worth noticing was the suggestion that Russia isn't in Syria because they want to be, but because the US out foxed him and made him go. So poor puny Putin had no power to protect himself from our powers of persuasion as we pulled him by the schoz into the mire that is syria that is quag?
Quote:Putin is also seeking to reconcile Syria’s warring factions. While the Pentagon spent billions trying to train an army of democracy–friendly moderates which turned out not to exist,
Quote:3rd time - What again is Russia's gain from all this? Loosing billions worth of business with Turkey? Propping up a hated "dictator?" More dead Russians? More dead civilians?
Quote:The danger is that Russia’s overtures to the Kurds could put Moscow on a direct collision course with the Turks. ... Last week, Turkey’s army — the second largest in Nato — backed up Erdogan’s words by shelling YPG positions from across the frontier, ostensibly in self-defence. Moreover, Erdogan recently said that a Turkish-US buffer zone mooted for northern Iraq in 2003 would have preserved Iraq from its current problems with Isis. Erdogan added that he saw no need ‘currently’ for a similar buffer zone in northern Syria — but said that the Turkish military had all the parliamentary authority it needed to create one if the order was given. More worryingly, Putin and Assad have accused the Turkish army of running weapons to Ankara-backed rebel groups deep inside Syrian territory
Quote:I avoid those long posts because I know from experience that what you have to say is just not worth that much time.
Quote: But it’s worth asking the question: if Assad wins decisively, and peace breaks out, is Putin’s plan so terrible? Washington and Moscow want many of the same things: an end to hostilities on the ground, the destruction of radical Islamist groups such as Isis and the Al-Nusra Front, the establishment of a transitional government and, eventually, free elections. Even the Americans are willing to fudge on a key rebel demand — that Assad, personally, be removed from power. They agree that he could at least stay for a transitional period.
Quote: But you keep lying to yourself and twisting or purposely misunderstanding my words if it makes you feel more secure. ---- you made a grandiose horse-sh*t statement that you couldn't back up: ----- It's pretty obvious you studied at the Sniggles school of (all too obvious) misdirection. ------ It's going to be great to see how you twist my words to make your point! --- I'm guessing she needs more time to help her grand daughter's tshirt shop pull up from a nose diving economy.
Sunday, March 6, 2016 10:38 AM
Sunday, March 6, 2016 4:27 PM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: THUGR deserves a thread of his own, because he's another troll. I'm a little busy right now, but at some point, someone (possibly me) will post a compilation of THGUR's Great Thoughts. -------------- You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
Sunday, March 6, 2016 4:36 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, March 7, 2016 12:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Troll, much?
Monday, March 7, 2016 1:47 PM
Monday, March 7, 2016 2:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Sig's not leaving, as I said in a thread just for you. http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60419 Hmmm... you can't think, you can't read (as evidenced by your poor comprehension of what I wrote), you have no memory, and apparently you can't see because you didn't see that thread, which is just for you. Or maybe you're a liar? Or a troll
Monday, March 7, 2016 5:25 PM
Monday, March 7, 2016 5:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Troll, much? Because you don't address topics. Nope, everything you post is personal insult. You are the definition of a troll.
Quote: 1kiki Let's see. You're angry because - even though you haven't bothered with the news coming out of Turkey in YEARS - you THINK Russia MIGHT have had something to do with Erdogan taking over a critical newspaper? THAT'S the source of your rage against evil? Sounds pretty insane - oh, and inane, ignorant, and poor white trash-y - to me. BTW, I'm not criticizing your family. No, it's directed at you personally because you're the asshole human you claim to be better than. And, don't fool yourself into thinking that your family doesn't know about this side of you. Believe me, people know. Even if you think you're doing a great job hiding it. I just feel sorry for them. Jeez, no wonder your husband disappears into video games. He's trying to get away from you.
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