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Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:59 PM

THGRRI


WASHINGTON — Shortly before the House Benghazi committee ramped up its battles with the Department of Defense in its probe of the 2012 terrorist attack, the committee’s own top lawyer admitted at least four times in interviews with military officials that there was no more they could have done on that tragic night.


And here you have it folks. More proof that the far right lets it leaders lead them around by the nose and believes anything the morons say.

Remember the Benghazi link and the red meat republicans at this site? I don't know who is worse. Them or SIG and 1kiki our Russian comrades. Yep, it was pure politics raped in an American flag, shamefully exploiting the deaths of four brave Americans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trey-gowdy-dana-chipman-benghazi-c
ommittee_us_5738db52e4b08f96c18373e2

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Tuesday, May 17, 2016 11:09 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


It's called beating a dead horse!!!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
WASHINGTON — Shortly before the House Benghazi committee ramped up its battles with the Department of Defense in its probe of the 2012 terrorist attack, the committee’s own top lawyer admitted at least four times in interviews with military officials that there was no more they could have done on that tragic night.



And here you have it folks. More proof that the far right lets it leaders lead them around by the nose and believes anything the morons say.

Remember the Benghazi link and the red meat republicans at this site? I don't know who is worse. Them or SIG and 1kiki our Russian comrades. Yep, it was pure politics raped in an American flag, shamefully exploiting the deaths of four brave Americans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trey-gowdy-dana-chipman-benghazi-c
ommittee_us_5738db52e4b08f96c18373e2


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Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:14 AM

THGRRI


I don't see them acknowledging their leaders willfully mislead them, or that they were wrong for buying into what was being said. No retraction of the ugly and disgusting things said in these threads. And that is because it was all based on hate and never on facts.

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Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:58 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Lawyers are clearly the experts on what the military capabilities are.
Yep, having lawyers tell the Defense Department what they are allowed to do or not. That is exactly what the whole problem was to start with, except with lawyer criminals like Hilliary and Obama.
Lots of military help was available, except that POTUS ordered them not to. Just like the operators who were told not to help but refused orders and saved lives. Depicted in the film 13 Hours.

Not that you had a level of believability to begin with, but you could at least pretend to have a clue.

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Friday, May 20, 2016 12:16 AM

REAVERFAN








Fun Benghazi memes to share!

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Friday, May 20, 2016 2:03 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


There are those that regurgitate the GOP company line, lying sacks o' shit like Automatrons - MUST...REPEAT...GOP...MONTRA...Bhengazi...HILARY BAD...OBAMA BAD...
SUCKY PRESIDENT...BOO HOO...


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
I don't see them acknowledging their leaders willfully mislead them, or that they were wrong for buying into what was being said. No retraction of the ugly and disgusting things said in these threads. And that is because it was all based on hate and never on facts.


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Friday, May 20, 2016 2:50 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Lawyers are clearly the experts on what the military capabilities are.
Yep, having lawyers tell the Defense Department what they are allowed to do or not. That is exactly what the whole problem was to start with, except with lawyer criminals like Hilliary and Obama.
Lots of military help was available, except that POTUS ordered them not to. Just like the operators who were told not to help but refused orders and saved lives. Depicted in the film 13 Hours.

Not that you had a level of believability to begin with, but you could at least pretend to have a clue.

There's precisely nothing new about this. It happens—literally—every time a Democrat is president.

Ever since the 1930s, every time a Democrat wins the presidency, the GOP follows the same broad path: a fake or a pseudo-reverence for the Constitution, a supposedly spontaneous uprising of formerly nonpolitical middle-class activists, a preoccupation with socialism and the expanding tyranny of big government, a bitterness toward an underclass viewed as unwilling to work, and a weakness for outlandish conspiracy theories. Benghazi is the conspiracy theory. The military said that the military could not respond to Benghazi. So the Republicans contradict the military about what the military said.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/05/17/benghazi-committee-ren
ews-focus-militarys-response/84507742
/

Congress should allow military officers testifing before Congress to bring their loaded guns to Congress and put them on the table. I would really like to see a Republican Congressman keep insinuating that the armed officer was a liar when testifying about Benghazi.

The Michael Bay movie 13 Hours depiction of the alleged stand-down order and the availability of air support indirectly promoted pernicious conspiracy theories that President Obama and/or Secretary Clinton did not want the embassy to be defended. Who is the liar? Hollywood's Michael Bay? Or every military officer testifying under oath to the Benghazi Committee?

It is necessary to add that Michael Bay's standard defense of the quality, believability, plausibility, authenticity, and credibility of his work is "It's just a movie!" See Bay's Transformer movies or Bay's 13 Hours if you don't believe me.


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Friday, May 20, 2016 9:42 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Lawyers are clearly the experts on what the military capabilities are.
Yep, having lawyers tell the Defense Department what they are allowed to do or not. That is exactly what the whole problem was to start with, except with lawyer criminals like Hilliary and Obama.
Lots of military help was available, except that POTUS ordered them not to. Just like the operators who were told not to help but refused orders and saved lives. Depicted in the film 13 Hours.

Not that you had a level of believability to begin with, but you could at least pretend to have a clue.



It is what the military says as well. You suffer the disease of hate and can no longer think rationally. It's one of the reasons that during my time at this site I have only responded to 4 or 5 of your posts. I already regret responding to any of them.

For the record, I believe SECOND answered your rant beautifully.

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Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:00 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


True that!

In a country made up of laws, it warms the cockles of me heart to see our Constitution being used like a dish rag to clean the mess the GOP has made. Not
only do we have morons voting for morons, but we have a "cheerleading" squad
bad-mouthing the POTUS every chance they get. Meanwhile the world watches and
scratches their collective heads, pointing shaking their heads and eventually
laughing.

That irks me to no end.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Lawyers are clearly the experts on what the military capabilities are.
Yep, having lawyers tell the Defense Department what they are allowed to do or not. That is exactly what the whole problem was to start with, except with lawyer criminals like Hilliary and Obama.
Lots of military help was available, except that POTUS ordered them not to. Just like the operators who were told not to help but refused orders and saved lives. Depicted in the film 13 Hours.

Not that you had a level of believability to begin with, but you could at least pretend to have a clue.



It is what the military says as well. You suffer the disease of hate and can no longer think rationally. It's one of the reasons that during my time at this site I have only responded to 4 or 5 of your posts. I already regret responding to any of them.

For the record, I believe SECOND answered your rant beautifully.


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Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:46 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


4 Americans died.

Hillary and the admin lied about what caused it, knowing WHILE IT WAS HAPPENING that it wasn't about any youtube video.

Of course folks are going to cover for the admin and themselves. How is this news ? Rock the boat and you'll be the one falling out. Everyone is a team player on this, because they don't want the narrative to be that they failed. Even though they all did.


SGG - the mess the REPUBLICANS made ? In Libya ?? WTF are you talking about ? This was all Barry and Hillary's doing.

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Monday, May 23, 2016 6:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Lawyers are clearly the experts on what the military capabilities are.
Yep, having lawyers tell the Defense Department what they are allowed to do or not. That is exactly what the whole problem was to start with, except with lawyer criminals like Hilliary and Obama.
Lots of military help was available, except that POTUS ordered them not to. Just like the operators who were told not to help but refused orders and saved lives. Depicted in the film 13 Hours.

Not that you had a level of believability to begin with, but you could at least pretend to have a clue.

There's precisely nothing new about this. It happens—literally—every time a Democrat is president.

Ever since the 1930s, every time a Democrat wins the presidency, the GOP follows the same broad path: a fake or a pseudo-reverence for the Constitution, a supposedly spontaneous uprising of formerly nonpolitical middle-class activists, a preoccupation with socialism and the expanding tyranny of big government, a bitterness toward an underclass viewed as unwilling to work, and a weakness for outlandish conspiracy theories. Benghazi is the conspiracy theory. The military said that the military could not respond to Benghazi. So the Republicans contradict the military about what the military said.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/05/17/benghazi-committee-ren
ews-focus-militarys-response/84507742
/

Congress should allow military officers testifing before Congress to bring their loaded guns to Congress and put them on the table. I would really like to see a Republican Congressman keep insinuating that the armed officer was a liar when testifying about Benghazi.

The Michael Bay movie 13 Hours depiction of the alleged stand-down order and the availability of air support indirectly promoted pernicious conspiracy theories that President Obama and/or Secretary Clinton did not want the embassy to be defended. Who is the liar? Hollywood's Michael Bay? Or every military officer testifying under oath to the Benghazi Committee?

See Bay's 13 Hours if you don't believe me.


The "true account of the events" in the film, also in the book of the historical account, belie your silly rantings and attempts to belittle those who were there and in theater.
Yes I did see 13 Hours, which was toned down a bit yet still brought the information forth in an understandable way.

https://www.amazon.ca/13-Hours-Account-Happened-Benghazi/dp/1455582271

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_Hours_%28book%29

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22608582-13-hours

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_Hours:_The_Secret_Soldiers_of_Benghaz
i




Hilliary and Obama lying purely for the purpose of supporting the obvious lie Obama told about his vaunted defeat of the JV team, claiming there were no more terrorists in Libya, and therefore nobody was attacking anybody or anthing in Benghazi other than some random street rioters who were upset by a youtube video that nobody had seen.
Your gullibility is quite alarming.
"Your" meaning your threesome.


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Monday, May 23, 2016 6:42 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
4 Americans died.

Hillary and the admin lied about what caused it, knowing WHILE IT WAS HAPPENING that it wasn't about any youtube video.

Of course folks are going to cover for the admin and themselves. How is this news ? Rock the boat and you'll be the one falling out. Everyone is a team player on this, because they don't want the narrative to be that they failed. Even though they all did.


SGG - the mess the REPUBLICANS made ? In Libya ?? WTF are you talking about ? This was all Barry and Hillary's doing.


SGG's Talking Points are only what Hilliary has directed him to say - you can't really blame him for being incapable of critical thinking. His gullibility has gone overboard.

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Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:13 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Having difficulty posting in this thread.
Looks like my post with linkys from the other day did not get posted. It was a reply to one of the B.S. posts above.

Another attempt a few minutes ago resulted in the computer locking up on some usatoday link.


About 50 minutes after the attack started, Obama was informed. This is 1630 DC time, so he sticks his thumb up his hiney and hopes all the Americans die.
An hour later the security team refused orders to stand down and arrived to help.

The massive assault that killed and injured the most Americans started 7.5 hours after the initial attack started.

Benghazi is 1,700 Km from Italy.
3,200 Km from Spain.
3,400 Km from Germany.

Military jets moving at sub-sonic velocity are 1,200 Km/hr. That is 80 minutes from Italy to Benghazi.

Transport birds can move, too.
A330 at 860 KM/hr, 2 hours from Italy, less than 4 hours from Spain or Germany.
C5 or C141, 900/hr.
C17 at 830/hr.
C-130 at 540/hr.
V22 Osprey at 400/hr - still only 4 hours from Italy to Benghazi.

Some of the whistleblowers were Mark Thompson, Gregory Hicks and Eric Nordstrom. Others were afraid of losing their careers, pensions, etc if they testified the truth. The Obama suck-ups and appointees in the military - I am shocked, just shocked I say, that they would testify to whatever lies Obama told them to say. He is their commander-in-chief.
Yes, Hicks' fears of retribution were warranted - he has been demoted from Deputy Chief of Station to desk warmer.

Aybody who does not believe that military response could have saved American lives in Benghazi must be a fool.
Some of you may believe the U.S. military really is the most incompetent in the world, as this incident indicates, but most realistic people understand that it was not the military that failed, but their incompetent commander-in-chief that was elected and his bimbo-in-charge Hilliary that were the incompetents more interested in spinning than doing their jobs.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/11/military-timeline-from-nigh
t-benghazi-attack-begs-more-questions.html


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/11/military-timeline-from-nigh
t-benghazi-attack-begs-more-questions.html


http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/09/us/politics/official-offers-account-
from-libya-of-benghazi-attack.html?_r=0


http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/10/15/1014241/timline-benghazi-
attack
/


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Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:44 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
WASHINGTON — Shortly before the House Benghazi committee ramped up its battles with the Department of Defense in its probe of the 2012 terrorist attack, the committee’s own top lawyer admitted at least four times in interviews with military officials that there was no more they could have done on that tragic night.



And here you have it folks. More proof that the far right lets it leaders lead them around by the nose and believes anything the morons say.

Remember the Benghazi link and the red meat republicans at this site? I don't know who is worse. Them or SIG and 1kiki our Russian comrades. Yep, it was pure politics raped in an American flag, shamefully exploiting the deaths of four brave Americans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trey-gowdy-dana-chipman-benghazi-c
ommittee_us_5738db52e4b08f96c18373e2



As I said originally, the truth comes out and they still post the same talking points from long ago. Even though very intense investigations have shown it was a witch hunt from the beginning. That's what the investigations revealed. It was a political witch hunt dishonoring memory of 4 brave Americans.

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Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:31 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
The Whitewash comes out and they still post the same talking points from long ago. Even though very intense whitewashing has claimed it was a witch hunt from the beginning. That's what the coverup claimed. It was a political maneuvering and spinning dishonoring memory of 4 brave Americans.


Fixed your errors for ya.

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Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:43 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
WASHINGTON — Shortly before the House Benghazi committee ramped up its battles with the Department of Defense in its probe of the 2012 terrorist attack, the committee’s own top lawyer admitted at least four times in interviews with military officials that there was no more they could have done on that tragic night.



And here you have it folks. More proof that the far right lets it leaders lead them around by the nose and believes anything the morons say.

Remember the Benghazi link and the red meat republicans at this site? I don't know who is worse. Them or SIG and 1kiki our Russian comrades. Yep, it was pure politics raped in an American flag, shamefully exploiting the deaths of four brave Americans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trey-gowdy-dana-chipman-benghazi-c
ommittee_us_5738db52e4b08f96c18373e2



As I said originally, the truth comes out and they still post the same talking points from long ago. Even though very intense investigations have shown it was a witch hunt from the beginning. That's what the investigations revealed. It was a political witch hunt dishonoring memory of 4 brave Americans.

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Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:44 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I may have tracked down some of the links I had a few days ago.

Another key witness was Jeremy Bash, who informed early on about the numerous teams ready and prepped to respond, but were not allowed to by Obama.

https://mic.com/articles/40487/benghazi-testimony-gregory-hicks-and-ma
rk-thompson-testimony#.vvii1Mw6y


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2013/05/08/the-be
nghazi-hearing-live-blog
/

Special Forces told not to board the C-130 from Tripoli to Benghazi, who could have saved lives.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/4009/whistleblowers-high-level-bur
eaucratic-errors
#

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/benghazi-whistleblowers-head-to-house-comm
ittee
/

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/primary-player-benghazi-was-not-in
terviewed-state-dept-review-board


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/08/former-us-official-in-tripoli-des
cribes-confusion-call-with-clinton-during.html


http://insider.foxnews.com/2013/05/08/read-prepared-statements-gregory
-hicks-mark-thompson-benghazi-attack


http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Thompson-Testimo
ny-5-8-Benghazi-COMPLETE.pdf


http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/05/08/benghazi-whistleblower-t
estifies-on-capitol-hill.html


And the truth behind the excuses:
https://www.funker530.com/email-bombshell-benghazi-response-teams-deli
berately-stopped-by-whitehouse
/
Teams were seated on the plane, geared up, weapons loaded, engines running, waiting for Obama to let them go help.
This is exactly what military veterans expected to be the case, and also exactly what the response they expected from Obama and his ilk.

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Friday, May 27, 2016 5:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
WASHINGTON — Shortly before the House Benghazi committee ramped up its battles with the Department of Defense in its probe of the 2012 terrorist attack, the committee’s own top lawyer admitted at least four times in interviews with military officials that there was no more they could have done on that tragic night.



And here you have it folks. More proof that the far right lets it leaders lead them around by the nose and believes anything the morons say.

Remember the Benghazi link and the red meat republicans at this site? I don't know who is worse. Them or SIG and 1kiki our Russian comrades. Yep, it was pure politics raped in an American flag, shamefully exploiting the deaths of four brave Americans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trey-gowdy-dana-chipman-benghazi-c
ommittee_us_5738db52e4b08f96c18373e2



As I said originally, the truth comes out and they still post the same talking points from long ago. Even though very intense investigations have shown it was a witch hunt from the beginning. That's what the investigations revealed. It was a political witch hunt dishonoring memory of 4 brave Americans.


When their lies are exposed to the light of day, the libs here simply refer to their same talking points from long ago, when they were still able to control the media and suppress the truth.

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Friday, May 27, 2016 6:30 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
WASHINGTON — Shortly before the House Benghazi committee ramped up its battles with the Department of Defense in its probe of the 2012 terrorist attack, the committee’s own top lawyer admitted at least four times in interviews with military officials that there was no more they could have done on that tragic night.



And here you have it folks. More proof that the far right lets it leaders lead them around by the nose and believes anything the morons say.

Remember the Benghazi link and the red meat republicans at this site? I don't know who is worse. Them or SIG and 1kiki our Russian comrades. Yep, it was pure politics raped in an American flag, shamefully exploiting the deaths of four brave Americans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trey-gowdy-dana-chipman-benghazi-c
ommittee_us_5738db52e4b08f96c18373e2



As I said originally, the truth comes out and they still post the same talking points from long ago. Even though very intense investigations have shown it was a witch hunt from the beginning. That's what the investigations revealed. It was a political witch hunt dishonoring memory of 4 brave Americans.


When their lies are exposed to the light of day, the libs here simply refer to their same talking points from long ago, when they were still able to control the media and suppress the truth.



You're just an ass incapable of recognizing that after all the investigating and misrepresenting of the facts by the committee, there is still no smoking gun to show there was any wrong doing.

As a matter of fact, even with all the prep work they did before they spoke with Clinton the last time, she still cleaned their collective clocks.

To further prove my point. When was the last time you heard from said committee? The American people have spoken. And the verdict is, it was all bullshit.

And that asshole is that

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Saturday, May 28, 2016 9:14 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by G:
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And the verdict is, it was all bullshit.

And that asshole is that



This thread makes me wonder: What's the clock on Obama - the great Muslim invader - taking over the US? Seriously, what's taking him so long? He's cutting it kinda close, inn't he? I thought he fudged his birth certificate (and kept that outrageous name - what a great disguise) so he could win the presidency and enslave us all? Then force us into camps where we'd have to make Muslim candy bars all day. He's got like, 5 months to do that, right?

Some people... oiy.



It is amazing how some become so locked into what others say that they lose all objectivity. There is a lot I don't like about Clinton, and I know Obama has made mistakes but the hate that drives some here is astounding.

Take Benghazi, it played out in front of the world with investigation and hearing after investigation and hearing. What we learned from all that was that the investigations were mostly a partisan attack and political. Where mistakes made, yup, and I hope we learned from them.

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Saturday, May 28, 2016 4:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Where mistakes made, yup, and I hope we learned from them.


Your infantile perspective is making you miss the point.

They were supposed to have learn from the prior Democrat mistakes. The Democrat Vietnam disastrous mistakes under LBJ and his Tuesday Luncheons. The Democrat Eagle Claw disastrous mistakes under Jiminy Cotta. The Democrat mistakes of expending Million Dollar bombs on empty tents whenever Slick Willie needed a headline diversion of his crimes.

The learning should have come to fruition long before Benghazi, not constantly delayed and put off.

There is absolutely no evidence that they will have learned from this, precisely because nobody is being held accountable. And accountability is what Democraps endeavor to avoid.

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