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I can imagine President Obama pushing a federal law making it legal to surveil everyone at any time

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This seems to mean they have agreed to give up all hope of winning the White House, and just plan to have enough Congressional power to stop more of the Obamination of America, and bring America back from the brink.

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I can imagine President Obama pushing a federal law making it legal to surveil everyone at any time

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Oh, wait, I don't have to imagine that.

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This is one election where party lines have become almost meaningless. Hillary is courting neocon Republicans, and Trump is courting Sanders anti-establishment voters. The election isn't about Democrat versus Republican; for many people it's about establishment versus non-establishment. Or, as I heard one Sanders voter in CA say, when asked if he would vote for Hillary:

"Nah, I'm voting for Trump. Let's pop this zit and get on with it"

As far as dreams of a third-party vote, there are too many people committed to trying to keep "the other" candidate from winning to give third-party enough of a chance to win. OTOH, there are also a lot of people who can't imagine voting for either of the presumptive nominees, and as long as they don't stay home third parties should do well this year. They won't win, but some of them may break that magic 5% number at which the major parties have to actively start courting them.

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Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump dislikes the media. I can imagine President Trump pushing a federal law making it illegal to criticize the president — punishable by long prison terms. At that point, he might as well be Vladimir Putin and his nation will be in deep trouble.

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/06/who-are-the-anonymous-people-ter
rorizing-those-who-criticize-putin/
Russia currently has a law that makes insulting state officials illegal and punishable by up to a year of correctional labor.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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I can imagine President Obama pushing a federal law making it legal to surveil everyone at any time

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This is one election where party lines have become almost meaningless. Hillary is courting neocon Republicans, and Trump is courting Sanders anti-establishment voters. The election isn't about Democrat versus Republican; for many people it's about establishment versus non-establishment. Or, as I heard one Sanders voter in CA say, when asked if he would vote for Hillary:

"Nah, I'm voting for Trump. Let's pop this zit and get on with it"

As far as dreams of a third-party vote, there are too many people committed to trying to keep "the other" candidate from winning to give third-party enough of a chance to win. OTOH, there are also a lot of people who can't imagine voting for either of the presumptive nominees, and as long as they don't stay home third parties should do well this year. They won't win, but some of them may break that magic 5% number at which the major parties have to actively start courting them.

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I can imagine President Obama pushing a federal law making it legal to surveil everyone at any time

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This is one election where party lines have become almost meaningless. Hillary is courting neocon Republicans, and Trump is courting Sanders anti-establishment voters. The election isn't about Democrat versus Republican; for many people it's about establishment versus non-establishment. Or, as I heard one Sanders voter in CA say, when asked if he would vote for Hillary:

"Nah, I'm voting for Trump. Let's pop this zit and get on with it"

As far as dreams of a third-party vote, there are too many people committed to trying to keep "the other" candidate from winning to give third-party enough of a chance to win. OTOH, there are also a lot of people who can't imagine voting for either of the presumptive nominees, and as long as they don't stay home third parties should do well this year. They won't win, but some of them may break that magic 5% number at which the major parties have to actively start courting them.

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Originally imagined by SIGNYM:
I can imagine President Obama pushing a federal law making it legal to surveil everyone at any time

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Above is SIG using an act of deception to suggest she is responding to what someone posted. The statement she put in quotes is nowhere to be found in this thread.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

With Ryan as Speaker, they would at least have the spine for it.
But after 8 years of every Senator and Representative who promised to stop Obama and then cow-towing, capitulating, cowering, compromising and caving

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I quoted sig by including her name and separating it from my response by a blue line. And it was a quote from sig. The point I was making was very clear. Proven by the fact that you understood what I was saying. Big difference than posting a quote in blue that is completely made up by you as a part of the post and it suggests by the way it is presented that you are quoting someone else from a previous post. What I point out that sig did is right there in her original post for all to see.

See the difference? And there is no error in what I posted. Her original statement in its entirety is posted along with the made up quote. Also, it is not up to you to correct other peoples posts. You may point out what you perceive to be in error but you are a third party and most likely to get it wrong. Just as you did here.

I look at all the posting you do in all the different threads and I would suggest you think before you post and move on.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
"All those incumbents who have exposed themselves as useless to the conservative voters may not be returning."

The only sensible thing you said in your post. I agree with Second, you guys had a choice of who would emerge from the clown car as the nominee for the Con-servative
Party. And so, "you gets what you pays for."


SGG

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
"All those incumbents who have exposed themselves as useless to the conservative voters may not be returning."

The only sensible thing you said in your post. I agree with Second, you guys had a choice of who would emerge from the clown car as the nominee for the Con-servative
Party. And so, "you gets what you pays for."


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Your post does not seem to make sense.
Did you actually read the OP? Did you understand that part of the presupposition is that Trump will lose? And that the posited ramifications are what is expected to follow that?

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