Hillary Clinton: just because she deserves her own thread by SIGNYM

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The Marines were just such wussies, right? Led by their pansy officers.

Nope, just much better behaved.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:21 PM

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Mai got. Is this what passes for analysis? For thought? For reason and proportion? Is this the best reason to vote for her that Hillary's got going?

Just buy your Donald Trump hat and T-shirt already.

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Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:33 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Who I vote for is none of your concern. There's a reason why it's a secret ballot.

Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Saturday, June 4, 2016 6:37 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

It's interesting - despite being for Hillary, second hasn't posted here at all, and sgg's only posted one post which didn't say anything about her.

It's almost like they're afraid to discuss their candidate.

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Saturday, June 4, 2016 9:29 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
It's interesting - despite being for Hillary, second hasn't posted here at all, and sgg's only posted one post which didn't say anything about her.

It's almost like they're afraid to discuss their candidate.

Are you kidding, look at SIG's opening post. Hillary Clinton, war monger.

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Saturday, June 4, 2016 10:43 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Are you kidding, look at SIG's opening post. Hillary Clinton, war monger.

Well, you DID forget the video. I'll give you a hint - you don't even have to know how to read to watch it.

The ONE reply in her 'defense'?

Really!?

News Flash Everyone!

SGG

And what can be more factual than a video with a well-documented provenance? But Hillary's supporters seem to be unable to address the facts about her.

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Monday, June 6, 2016 3:50 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

So, instead of discussing Hillary by proxy by slamming Donald and pointedly ignoring Bernie, let's talk about Hillary specifically. We've already talked about her negatives - potential indictments, unconcern for the working and middle class and focus on big-money interests (those free trade agreements she was for before she was sort-of against; cozy big-bank relationships), famously insincere and hypocritical on the issues, running a campaign of identity politics; revolving-door wealth through the Clinton Foundation, State Department, and individually; corruptly in bed with the corrupt minions of the democratic party, a history of VERY BAD judgment on Libya, Ukraine and Syria - which she refuses to acknowledge and correct, and, my all-time favorite, neo-con war-hawk jonesing for a nuclear confrontation with Russia (probably by miscalculation, but hey, it's not like she has a history of serious miscalculations or anything! nope, if you listen to her everything's all good!).

How about we discuss her positives.

Anybody?

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Monday, June 6, 2016 5:51 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Third World War, the Key Is On “Start”

Originally appeared at Strogosekretno, translated by Borislav exclusively for SouthFront

On July the 8th to the 9th, Warsaw will hold a summit of NATO in the form of the North Atlantic Council. This will be the 25th jubilee summit of NATO to establish that which we were warning about for years – that the front line of the Third World War shifted to Eastern Europe, which, in the case of open hostilities will be destroyed completely. This is the goal of the US and NATO.

Currently, the activation is in Poland on the north, and Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey on the south.

The US and NATO flooded the Baltic and Black Sea with new bases and ships, and strengthened the front line on the ground – Baltic states – Poland – Ukraine – Romania – Bulgaria – Turkey.

The front is outlined. The key to the Third World War is set to “start”.

The nuclear escalation from the US to Europe continues with the transfer of the most advanced American attack plane, the F-22 Raptor, from the base in Tindal (Florida) to the base in Linkenholt (England) from where it will fly to other positions carrying the new US-nukes B 61 -12.

On May 12, in the base of Deveselu in Romania (40 km from the border with Bulgaria) the first 24 anti-rocket SM-3’s were activated as part of the American construction of a missile defense shield in Europe, against the strategic nuclear forces of Russia.

On May 13, the construction of the second element of this system began in the Polish base in Redzikovo.

In both places US officials, together with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg announced that the inauguration of a terrestrial AEGIS “increases the possibilities of protecting European allies against ballistic missiles outside the Euro-Atlantic area”. As is known, outside of this zone, only Russia has missiles.

The two ground missile bases will join the four AEGIS ships also armed with SM-3 missiles with vertical launchers sent from the US base in Rota, Spain, in the Mediterranean, the Black and Baltic seas, connected with the radar system in Turkey and command center in Germany.

On May 18, British General Alexander Sheriff, the former Supreme Allied Commander in Europe in 2011-2014, said that “NATO should be preparing for war against Russia.”

On May 20, First Deputy Minister of Defense Robert York stated that Russia’s foreign policy is moving “towards confrontation”.

A few days ago, Ukraine and Turkey signed a military cooperation plan. Simultaneously, NATO reported that they will continue to defend Georgia, which could be another nuclear base on the border of Russia. Currently the US has over 800 bases worldwide.

Moscow’s response was lightning fast this time, unlike other times. On May 12 in connection with the opening of the base in Deveselu, in a meeting of the military-industrial complex, Putin stated that the United States can not deceive Russia with statements about the “defensive nature of the missile defense, which is actually there for the transfer of a part of US nuclear potential to the periphery, and that Russia will respond appropriately to emergent new threats to its security.” Immediately after this statement, the West became hysterical about the “inadequate reaction of Russia against the completely harmless actions of the pact.” For his part, the Russian Foreign Ministry issued a statement that the NATO military fleet in the Black Sea will undermine regional security and force Russia to respond.

As we know Russia has sufficient resources to respond. That is the cynicism of the US and NATO. They exported their nuclear and missile potential to the periphery, which for us is not at all a periphery, knowing fully well that from a military point of view, all of these systems, missiles and other iron junk, are fiction which will be destroyed in seconds and that in the event of a US attack against Russia, the missile defense in Romania, Poland (possibly in Bulgaria) and Turkey will be transformed into nuclear ash.

In short, these countries will experience the life of countries targeted by Russia’s nuclear and cruise missiles. What they get from the US is pure provocation. But that is the goal.

From a technical point of view, things are much simpler. Most likely, Russia has a plan for the use of the appropriate missiles to destroy US and NATO targets in Poland, Romania and Bulgaria. This flight task, if necessary, can be entered into the computer systems of the missiles. We are talking about seconds. The rocket is ready to destroy radars, ships, shafts, bases or an entire country in its entirety.

Each army has a law – if there is a place that threatens national security, the army picks targets – airfields of nuclear weapons warehouses, missile defense systems, the water ports of ??nuclear submarines. Every military does this. The Russian is no exception.

Even the biggest pro-NATO enthusiasts realized that the missile defense of the USA in Poland and Romania, is a gross provocation with an anti-Russian orientation and they are completely vulnerable against the Russian response. Russia knows this. The US and NATO know that. Therefore, the US and NATO are preparing these countries to be cannon fodder against Russia.

Simultaneously, Western media persistently parrots the idea that Russia is an aggressor who threatens world peace. Lately, Putin personally is to be blamed for everything.

Against this background, the Balkans are again converted into the powder keg of Europe. The situation now is even more tragic, because the true dream of the Anglo-Saxon-Zionist geopolitics has become a reality. And that dream is to fight against Russia, using the Slavic countries and Orthodoxy. That chance is unlikely to be repeated in the future.

Because of this, World War III could begin in the Balkans. The key is set to “start”.

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Monday, June 6, 2016 6:49 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Hillary Clinton is lying about the criminal U.S.-backed coup in Honduras. It should be as scandalous as Libya
The U.S., under Clinton's leadership, helped overthrow Honduras' elected government. Today the country is in chaos
Ben Norton

Hillary Clinton may have foreign policy experience, but it is experience comprised of disaster after disaster.

In an interview with the New York Daily News, journalist Juan González dug a skeleton out of Clinton’s closet: He asked the presidential candidate about her role in the coup in Honduras.

In 2009, the Honduran military overthrew the democratically elected government of President Manuel Zelaya. The populist left-wing leader was woken up in the middle of the night, kidnapped and whisked away from his own country.

The international community immediately condemned the coup. The U.S. response was quite different. The Obama administration, and particularly the State Department under the leadership of Hillary Clinton, defended the coup.

Clinton, a committed hawk and firm believer in U.S. empire, played a uniquely hands-on role in the coup, just as she did in the equally disastrous war in Libya.

Emails released from Clinton’s time as the secretary of state show that some of her top aides urged her to dub the putsch a military coup and to cut off U.S. aid. She refused to do so.

Instead, the U.S. defied the Organization of American States and pushed for the world to recognize the coup government.

Zelaya, a left-wing leader who challenged the interests of Western corporations, was never reinstated. In 2013, current President Juan Orlando Hernández kicked off his reign with the slogan “Honduras is open for business.”

Today, Honduras has a violent, repressive and incredibly corrupt government. Renowned activists like environmentalist Berta Cáceres are murdered in cold blood, and with complete impunity. Just before her assassination, in fact, Cáceres singled out Hillary Clinton for her role the coup.

From the 2009 coup until 2012, the U.S.-backed Honduran regime killed more than 300 people.

Honduras soon earned a dubious honor: From 2012 to 2014, it was the murder capital of the world.

Activists say death squads are back — a chilling ghost from a bloody Cold War past.

Clinton has responded to this tragedy — described in a New York Times op-ed as “a mess made in the U.S.” — with whitewashing and sheer fabrication.

“I didn’t like the way it looked or the way they did it, but they had a very strong argument that they had followed the Constitution and the legal precedents,” Clinton said of the 2009 coup in her interview with the Daily News.

“I think we came out with a solution that did hold new elections, but it did not in any way address the structural, systemic problems in that society,” she added, expressing “concern that it’s not just government actions — drug gangs, traffickers of all kinds are preying on the people of Honduras.”

Experts disagree, and say Clinton is trying to rewrite history.

Clinton’s “emails show that early on in the 2009 coup against Manuel Zalaya, when there was a real chance of restoring the reformist president to his office, she was working with the most retrograde elements in Honduras to consolidate the putsch,” explained historian Greg Grandin, an expert on U.S. policy in Latin America.

“Let’s be clear,” Grandin told journalist Doug Henwood for his book “My Turn: Hillary Clinton Targets the Presidency,” “grassroots Democrats who support Clinton for president would be enormously sympathetic to the coalition that was trying to reverse the Honduras coup, comprised of environmentalists, LGBT activists, people trying to make the morning-after pill available, progressive religious folks, anti-mining and anti-biofuel peasants and legal reformers working to humanize Honduras’ lethal police-prison regime.”

“Clinton betrayed them, serving them up to Honduras’ crime-ridden oligarchy,” Grandin added.

“Hundreds of good people have since been murdered by the people Clinton sided with in late 2009 and early 2010.”

Scholar Dana Frank, a specialist on human rights and U.S. policy in Honduras, was equally critical in her response.

“This is breathtaking that she’d say these things. I think we’re all kind of reeling that she would both defend the coup and defend her own role in supporting its stabilization in the aftermath,” Frank said in an interview on Democracy Now.

She explained that the argument that the Honduras judiciary and Congress justified the coup legally is a “mind-boggling” lie.

“The fact that she then is going to say that it was not an unconstitutional coup is incredible,” Frank continued, drawing attention to a July 2009 cable written by U.S. Ambassador to Honduras Hugo Llorens that very clearly called the coup “illegal and unconstitutional.”

Amb. Llorens wrote in the cable, which was sent to Washington, D.C. less than a month after the June 28 coup and was later released by WikiLeaks, that “there is no doubt” that it “constituted an illegal and unconstitutional coup.”

Characterizing the Honduran military’s kidnapping of the president as an “abduction,” the embassy document systematically debunked the arguments put forward by those who claimed the coup was legal, flatly asserting that none “has any substantive validity under the Honduran constitution.”

This did not, however, stop Clinton from declaring in her memoir “Hard Choices” that the events in Honduras were a “victory for democracy.”

The effects of the coup, meanwhile, have been nothing short of devastating. It “opened the door to this almost complete destruction of the rule of law in Honduras,” Frank explained.

“People hear the gangs and violence and drug traffickers are taking over,” she continued, recalling Clinton’s comments. “Well, that’s because the post-coup governments, both of [Roberto] Micheletti, [Pepe] Lobo and now Juan Orlando Hernández, have completely destroyed the rule of law, because they’re in cahoots with these various forms of organized crime and drug traffickers and violence against the Honduran people.”

“It’s not just like there are randomly violent people down there. This is a U.S.-supported regime.”

Today, Clinton is likely aware of how bad this all looks. She went so far as to excise evidence of it from the paperback version of her memoir.

The journalist who posed the questions to Cinton, Juan González, referred to her Honduras policy as “a Latin American crime story.” (This did not stop the Daily News from endorsing Clinton, however — after it grilled her competitor Bernie Sanders.)

Although she played an important leadership role, nevertheless, Clinton is not the only one who bears responsibility for the disaster in Honduras today. President Obama and his administration were also directly complicit.

Now, the Obama administration has been shockingly unsympathetic to the plight of refugees fleeing the violence and repression it helped create.

The U.S. government is deporting refugees from Honduras, along with neighbors El Salvador and Guatemala. Experts say these deportations violate international law.

As many as 83 people the U.S. sent back to Central America from January 2014 to October 2015 were killed.

In many ways, the disaster in Honduras has parallels to the disaster in Libya. The 2011 NATO war in the oil-rich North African country has further destabilized the region. Thousands have been killed, hundreds of thousands have been displaced and a civil war rages on, as ISIS has carved out its largest so-called caliphate outside of Iraq and Syria in the chaos.

As in Libya, President Obama made the ultimate decision, but Secretary of State Clinton played a forceful leading role. This is the kind of foreign policy experience she flaunts.

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Monday, June 6, 2016 6:50 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

But enough about Hillary's foreign policy disasters.

Let's hear about something positive.

Anyone?

The floor is yours.

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Monday, June 6, 2016 7:48 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Wednesday, June 8, 2016 2:16 PM

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Third World War, the Key Is On “Start”

First of all, why is this in the Hillary Clinton thread? These are actions by NATO and the Obama presidency - Hillary doesn't even have a job in the Obama White House anymore. Why don't you go ahead and create an "Obama warmonger" thread for your silly blog articles?

Secondly, do you agree with the predictions made in the article?

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"The US and NATO flooded the Baltic and Black Sea with new bases and ships, and strengthened the front line on the ground – Baltic states – Poland – Ukraine – Romania – Bulgaria – Turkey.

The front is outlined. The key to the Third World War is set to “start”."

"Because of this, World War III could begin in the Balkans. The key is set to “start”."

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Wednesday, June 8, 2016 2:27 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Who I vote for is none of your concern. There's a reason why it's a secret ballot.

Ha. Well it's clear to me (and I'll bet others) that you're more active and vociferous on these boards about this presidential election than you've ever been about any previous election. The Bernie Sanders campaign will fizzle out long before November, so it will be interesting to see if you keep up your vehement attacks on Hillary up until then, because if you do, sorry kitten, the secret ballot won't be able to hide the shame and embarrassment of your very obvious Trump support.

Exciting times

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Thursday, June 9, 2016 5:25 PM

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Obama's endorsement of Hillary:

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Thursday, June 9, 2016 6:00 PM

I managed to stumble across this linky:

http://www.hilliary.info/

Looks like I'll need time to go through it all.

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Thursday, June 9, 2016 7:18 PM

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Originally posted by kpo:
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Third World War, the Key Is On “Start”

First of all, why is this in the Hillary Clinton thread? These are actions by NATO and the Obama presidency - Hillary doesn't even have a job in the Obama White House anymore.

Because many consider Hilliary to be a continuation of Obama

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Friday, June 10, 2016 1:17 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

... so it will be interesting to see if you keep up your vehement attacks on Hillary up until then, because if you do, sorry kitten, the secret ballot won't be able to hide the shame and embarrassment of your very obvious Trump support.

I'm an 'anybody but Hillary' kind of voter, for reasons I've explained more than once. But I'll go through MY reasons, again.

With the smoking ruins of US Libyan policy, Ukrainian policy, and Syrian policy laid at Hillary's feet, with her bellicose statements against Russia on her website, with her 'Israel first and always' commitment, AND WITH HER REFUSAL TO ADMIT HER EFFORTS HAVE GONE BADLY AND NEED RETHINKING - I don't want her finger anywhere near the red button.

And I don't want her spoiling for a fight against anyone else who has THEIR finger on the red button.

She's pointlessly aggressive, an inveterate liar of the neo-CON stripe who has no ethics about ceaselessly misleading the country - and risking our lives, has a history of deeply flawed judgment about the US role in international dealings - and, let me say this again ...

... shows absolutely ZERO ability to admit to and learn from the things she's done that have ALL, without exception, gone completely, terribly wrong.

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Friday, June 10, 2016 8:21 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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So, instead of discussing Hillary by proxy by slamming Donald and pointedly ignoring Bernie, let's talk about Hillary specifically. We've already talked about her negatives ...

How about we discuss her positives.

Anybody?

.... *crickets*

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Friday, June 10, 2016 9:52 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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So, instead of discussing Hillary by proxy by slamming Donald and pointedly ignoring Bernie, let's talk about Hillary specifically. We've already talked about her negatives ...

How about we discuss her positives.

Anybody?

.... *crickets*

Well first I would say despite all you have said about her, she IS going to be the next president of the United States. Need I say more? I think not.

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Friday, June 10, 2016 12:20 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Since Hillary is a warmonger, Republicans should love her, but they have that email thing against her. Unfortunately for Republicans, no secretary of state ever used a state.gov email account until John Kerry. Republicans should attack all secretaries of state for improper handling government documents. Congressional investigations and indictments for all of them who are still alive. www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/state-dept-foia-officers-didnt-know
-didnt-ask-about-clinton-use-of-private-email/2016/06/09/d8d99194-2e93-11e6-b5db-e9bc84a2c8e4_story.html

Karin Lang, a State Department official responsible for records management, testified yesterday about Hillary Clinton's email practices:

Lang, a career employee who in July 2015 became director of the Executive Secretariat staff, which is responsible for records management, said that while a unit responsible for FOIA requests was told that Clinton had no government email account when she took office in January 2009, no one in the unit ever asked whether she used a personal account to conduct business before she stepped down in 2013.

“Prior to Secretary Kerry, no secretary of state used a State.gov email address,” said Lang, supporting an explanation given by aides to the presumptive Democratic nominee for president that her email setup while at State was not unusual.

....Lang said that the FOIA office did not begin to search for records in response to Judicial Watch’s 2013 request for information concerning Abedin’s employment until after the group sued, and that at the unit chief’s direction, the FOIA office searched only human-resources records, not emails.

Apparently the head of State's FOIA unit "grew curious" about Hillary's email arrangement when that famous picture of her using a BlackBerry first appeared. It just goes to show that fame has both its ups and downs.

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Friday, June 10, 2016 4:00 PM

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I'm an 'anybody but Hillary' kind of voter

What I'm hearing:

1. Hillary is evil incarnate
2. Hillary is a continuation of Obama

And what I'm thinking:

1. Some of us quite like Obama (+50% approval rating)
2. Logic would have it that if Hillary is evil incarnate AND a continuation of Obama, then Obama must be evil incarnate as well. But I don't recall Siggy and kiki arguing so vehemently against him in '08 or '12, saying 'anybody but Obama'.

Conclusion: Siggy and Kiki are more excited about Trump, a racist, sexist, pro-gun, pro-nuclear, climate change denier with a tax plan to slash taxes on the rich, than any presidential nominee of either of the main parties for decades.

My question to you two would be, what's to like about this candidate, that you are willing to sell out so many of your purported principles to support him? It wouldn't be his cosying up to Putin would it?

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Friday, June 10, 2016 5:17 PM

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Originally posted by kpo:
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I'm an 'anybody but Hillary' kind of voter

What I'm hearing:

1. Hillary is evil incarnate
2. Hillary is a continuation of Obama

And what I'm thinking:

1. Some of us quite like Obama (+50% approval rating)
2. Logic would have it that if Hillary is evil incarnate AND a continuation of Obama, then Obama must be evil incarnate as well. But I don't recall Siggy and kiki arguing so vehemently against him in '08 or '12, saying 'anybody but Obama'.

Conclusion: Siggy and Kiki are more excited about Trump, a racist, sexist, pro-gun, pro-nuclear, climate change denier with a tax plan to slash taxes on the rich, than any presidential nominee of either of the main parties for decades.

My question to you two would be, what's to like about this candidate, that you are willing to sell out so many of your purported principles to support him? It wouldn't be his cosying up to Putin would it?

Very true, and two of many reasons they want Trump is because he will damage our country and our relationships with our allies. He will also be lost on issues of global politics, an advantage for Putin.

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Friday, June 10, 2016 5:50 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Remember, they were about to defend their god. Remember the suicide bomber, it started there with planes and what I remember being called bonsai attacks that sent thousands of Japanese at a time to their deaths.

The suicidal plane attacks were kamikaze to start with and later other types of nnaval attacks were also kamikaze.
Bonsai or Banzai was a celebratory cheer.

http://japanese.about.com/library/blqow41.htm

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/banzai

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Friday, June 10, 2016 5:55 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I managed to stumble across this linky:

http://www.hilliary.info/

Looks like I'll need time to go through it all.

I musn't forget this.

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Friday, June 10, 2016 11:09 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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. Logic would have it that if Hillary is evil incarnate AND a continuation of Obama, then Obama must be evil incarnate as well. But I don't recall Siggy and kiki arguing so vehemently against him in '08 or '12, saying 'anybody but Obama'.

Then you have a faulty memory. I was cautiously for Obama in 2008, but after he showed his true nature (quisling, coward, sellout) I argued against Obama, and voted against him in 2012, and said so, quite often, on this board.

In fact, as best as I recall, you weren't even HERE on RWE in 2008. So maybe you're just a big fat liar. Or a State Department/ CIA bot.

ETA: So altho KPO has been a member of FFF.net since 2005, he wasn't posting in RWE in 2008, according to the 5 pages that I surveyed. YEP, KPO = big fat liar. Wood'a thunk?

BTW, this is what I said about Obama in 2008

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When Obama said "It's not about the rich versus the poor" he totally lost my vote because that's exactly what it's about. It's all about money. It's always been about money.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=32467

You'll note, it's not exactly a ringing endorsement.

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Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:40 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"Unfortunately for Republicans, no secretary of state ever used a state.gov email account ..."

Unfortunately for Hillary, NEW email rules came in effect the year she took office - rules she flouted then and has lied about ever since.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/25/politics/state-department-report-faults-
clinton-over-email-use/
But while the report acknowledges personal email use by previous secretaries, it also notes that the rules for preserving work emails sent from a personal email account were updated in 2009, the year Clinton took office.

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Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:52 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

oneofthethreestooges

And once again, you and your ghost writer have strawmanned my post.

My concerns are VERY FOCUSED on Hillary's neo-CON agenda in the international sphere. I don't care about her persona on stage, the fact that she's a woman (and what an abysmally sexist reason to vote for someone), or even that she's for all those 'free' trade agreements as long as no one's looking.

When you can address WHAT I POST instead of trying to attribute arguments to me maybe I'll get around to attempting a discussion. But frankly, I've been waiting for a few years and you're still the same old lying asshole you've always been.

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Originally posted by kpo:
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I'm an 'anybody but Hillary' kind of voter

What I'm hearing:

1. Hillary is evil incarnate
2. Hillary is a continuation of Obama

And what I'm thinking:

1. Some of us quite like Obama (+50% approval rating)
2. Logic would have it that if Hillary is evil incarnate AND a continuation of Obama, then Obama must be evil incarnate as well. But I don't recall Siggy and kiki arguing so vehemently against him in '08 or '12, saying 'anybody but Obama'.

Conclusion: Siggy and Kiki are more excited about Trump, a racist, sexist, pro-gun, pro-nuclear, climate change denier with a tax plan to slash taxes on the rich, than any presidential nominee of either of the main parties for decades.

My question to you two would be, what's to like about this candidate, that you are willing to sell out so many of your purported principles to support him? It wouldn't be his cosying up to Putin would it?

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Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:59 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

THUGGR

Humanitarian. (snicker)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58208&p=5
kiki - And meanwhile, to understand the role of capitalism in improving life FOR THE MASSES you'll note here that the greatest gains in life expectancy in China - for women from 45 to 63, and for men from 44 to 64 - came between the years 1950 and 1972.
THUGGR - Your (sic) a fucking moron: who gives a shit?

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Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:47 AM

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Stunning Emails Reveal How Clinton Foundation Donor Bought Seat As Hillary's Nuclear Weapons Advisor

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It has been widely speculated, if not proven, that donors to the Clinton Foundation who over the years have transferred hundreds of millions of dollars to the "charitable organization", bought political favors with the Clintons in exchange for their generosity.

That has now been confirmed thanks to a stunning ABC report which reveals how a major foundation donor - one who previously had practically no experience on intellgience matters - mysteriously ended up as a nuclear weapons advisor to Hillary during her tenure as Secretary of State.

Worse, the person in question Rajiv K. Fernando, had been the head of a high frequency trading company, Chopper Trading ... bought a seat to not only have advance knowledge of all US foreign policy, but to directly shape it, something he could then parlay in the forms of massive policy frontrunning profits thanks to his trading company.

Just as shocking was the aggressive retaliation [MORE LIKE AGGRESSIVE STALLING - SIGNY] with which the State Department tried to cover up the cronyism that literally "bought" Fernando's seat as one of Hillary's closest political advisors and how - as a result of ongoing media pressure - Fernando just as mysteriously resigned only days after his appointment was announced when the State Department was unable to come up with a legitimate reason for him to stay on.

The article then goes on to describe the WTF? moments that both members of the International Security Advisory Board AND the State Department had when asked to explain ... Why is this man sitting here?

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“We had no idea who he was,” one board member told ABC News.... when ABC News first contacted the State Department in August 2011 seeking a copy of his resume, the emails show that confusion ensued among the career government officials who work with the advisory panel.

The appointment qualified Fernando for one of the highest levels of top secret access, the emails show. ... The newly released emails reveal that after ABC News started asking questions in August 2011, a State Department official who worked with the advisory board couldn’t immediately come up with a justification for Fernando serving on the panel. ... By this point, Fernando himself had been looped into the discussion. He and Hartman exchanged emails, but the entire text of Fernando’s letter was redacted by the State Department prior to its release ...

... for a mere $1-$5 million sunk cost, one can buy influence, and inside information, which - in this specific case - can then be traded and generate hundreds of millions in profits, an IRR that is too big for Excel to calculate ...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-10/stunning-emails-reveal-how-cl
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ZH provides a link to the emails

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Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:19 AM

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Conclusion: Siggy and Kiki are more excited about Trump, a racist, sexist, pro-gun, pro-nuclear, climate change denier with a tax plan to slash taxes on the rich, than any presidential nominee of either of the main parties for decades.

Say, THIRDSTOOGE, do you suppose you'll ever be able to formulate a argument without resorting to lying?

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My question to you two would be, what's to like about this candidate, that you are willing to sell out so many of your purported principles to support him? It wouldn't be his cosying up to Putin would it?

He's not Hillary. I thought I made that clear more than a dozen times.

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Let's not forget who are the biggest anti-Capitalists here.

You must not be familiar with the US Constitution. (I guess neither of you are American citizens.) Where does it say in the Constitution that the USA is a "capitalist" nation? And have you read any of the Founding Fathers' statements on corporations, and banks?

FOUNDING FATHERS ON BANKS

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And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale. - Thomas Jefferson

Bank-paper must be suppressed, and the circulating medium must be restored to the nation to whom it belongs."- Thomas Jefferson

Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice.- George Washington

Banks have done more injury to the religion, morality, tranquility, prosperity, and even wealth of the nation than they can have done or ever will do good.- John Adams

All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in the Constitution or Confederation, not from a want of honor or virtue so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.” – John Adams

Abraham Lincoln said

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The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. The banking powers are more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. They denounce as public enemies all who question their methods or throw light upon their crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe.

FOUNDING FATHERS ON CORPORATIONS

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...a vast accession of strength from their younger recruits, who, having nothing in them of the feelings or principles of ’76, now look to a single and splendid government of an aristocracy, founded on banking institutions, and monied incorporations under the guise and cloak of their favored branches of manufactures, commerce and navigation, riding and ruling over the plundered ploughman and beggared yeomanry - Thomas Jefferson

I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”- Thomas Jefferson

The power of all corporations ought to be limited, […] the growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses.”- James Madison

.... “the selfish spirit of commerce (that) knows no country, and feels no passion or principle but that of gain.= Thomas Jefferson

Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it.= John Adams

...Incorporated companies with proper limitations and guards may, in particular cases, be useful; but they are at best a necessary evil only."-James Madison

You should also look up some FF quotes on foreign entanglements, progressive taxation, two-party systems, and here are a couple about war

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“He who is the author of a war, lets loose the whole contagion of hell, and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death.”- — Thomas Paine

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.” -Thomas Jefferson

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I also wonder what Siggy's Mexican servants feel about her wanting to send millions of Mexicans back to Mexico. Her justification of, "If they love Mexico so much and wave Mexican flags they should go back to Mexico." Obviously, she's never been to a Saint Patrick's Day parade. Plus - does anyone on this board hate the US more vocally than Snigglet? Even close? Shouldn't she "go back" somewhere then by her own logic?

Wow, you just can't stop yourself from being a douche, can you? When you run out of anything truthful to say... which is almost all of the time .... you just make shit up, don't you?

Yes, of course you do.

I know it, you know it, and everyone else on this board knows it too.

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Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:13 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

ONEOFTHETHTREESTOOGES "Nice, you posted 50,000 words and you refuted absolutely nothing I said."

SIGNY saying that you're lying - which you are btw - is a refutation. Here's a definition for you: refute - deny or contradict (a statement or accusation).

Have you ever considered learning English?

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Sunday, June 12, 2016 4:27 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I did indicate that the definition I posted was -A- definition, not -THE- definition.

That aside, since Signy's post conforms to a well-known and accepted definition, that makes your criticism of her -

WRONG! AGAIN!

What surprise!

.not.

So, HAVE you considered learning English?

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Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:30 PM

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Huh? Like what exactly?

Dood, I even quoted you.

What, you don't even recognize your own writing? Are you getting confused between all your sock-puppet characters, and can't remember "who" wrote "what"?

In case you forgot, you wrote

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I also wonder what Siggy's Mexican servants...

As if.

Like I said, making shit up. Completely making shit up.

It's like "KPO" claiming that I never said anything bad about Obama in 2008, when the liar wasn't even here on RWE in 2008. You, KPO, and THUGRR: all the same (used) douche, dribbling out of your nasty mouths.

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How many Mexicans have worked for you?

Like I said: You make shit up out of whole cloth. Isn't that refutation enough for you? You made it up: It's entirely untrue.

But, in detail, the answer is: NONE. Yes, I have people work for me, but they have to have
(1) A valid Social Security number (Yes, I ask for the card, and then check it online)
(2) A valid driver's license.
(3) A working car, and car insurance
(4) A good knowledge of English.

I pay more than the minimum wage. And I report to Social Security, and I pay unemployment, disability and other CA state employer taxes. So sit on a cactus and spin, you asshole.

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In another thread you equated North Vietnam flags during the Vietnam war to waving Mexican flags now

Yes. Absolutely.

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Who said anything about the US being a capitalist nation?? I said Trump was a Capitalist and you support him - is that wrong?

Trump is a national capitalist, I believe I said that. He's not part of the international banking cartel, not part of the military-industrial complex. I believe I said that. Next time, try to remember.

And since this is a thread about HILLARY

... and not how many fantasy-servants you completely make up out of sheer brainless spite ...

let me do a recap of Hillary's finer points:

Hillary gets a lot of money from Goldman Sachs and other international investment banks, and including G Soros.

She gets a lot of multi-million dollar contributions from American and dual-citizenship Zionists, so she is likely to continue protecting the fascist state that is now Israel.

There isn't a war she hasn't liked. During her term as SCY State, at the highest levels she has helped create clusterfucks of three nations, which are now failed states crawling with nasties like jihadists and Nazis.

She pushed for the "pivot" to China, which shoved China into Russia's arms, and not only made an enemy of Russia (which would have been willing to negotiate) but also of China. Good going, Hillary! Let's confront the entire world, and bring on Armageddon!

Her "foundation" allowed her to sell sensitive security positions, decisions, and information to the highest foreign bidder.

She should be indicted for mishandling classified information, and then lying about it.

She should scare the crap out of you, but you're too stupid to see what a nightmare she is.

Just to make things absolutely crystal clear, if I don't respond to your stupid accusations, it's not like you've "hit the mark". Its just that you're a pointless waste of bits, and everyone knows it except you and your two other fellow-douchebags.

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Monday, June 13, 2016 10:15 AM

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But, in detail, the answer is: NONE. Yes, I have people work for me, but they have to have
(1) A valid Social Security number (Yes, I ask for the card, and then check it online)
(2) A valid driver's license.
(3) A working car, and car insurance
(4) A good knowledge of English.
SIGNY

So wrong about the country, right about the servants, check.-

The main point being - if these employees from another country (I presume since you mention they need to be able to speak decent English) that work for you start waving their home country's flag, would you want to force them out of the US? How do THEY feel about Trump? Your quick "deport them!" reaction to citizens from foreign countries who may be US citizens - like those that work for you - seems extreme and overly emotional.
THIRDSTOOGE

WRONG AGAIN.

The people who work for me ... no, they are not "servants" .... were born in the USA. I set those criteria for hiring because there are a LOT of Hispanics ... legal and illegal ... who are looking for work, and I need to screen people out QUICKLY, so I put those requirements in any advert that I run.

I think you know that our daughter is disabled, yes? She needs someone with her for her safety. Someone who can provide transportation. Someone who can understand complex instructions about anticonvulsants. Someone who can reliably call 911. Hubby and I both work full time. What do you suggest that I do? Leave her alone all day? The person who watches our daughter was born in the USA. She is FOR Trump, BTW. In her line of work, she knows that cheap Mexican labor drives wages down.

I also just had my yard re-landscaped, tore out most of the lawn and replaced it with native plants. The person who did the landscaping was born in the USA. He is also for Trump, BTW, because in HIS line of work he knows that cheap Mexican labor drives wages down.

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BTW - no one here thinks Hillary is a great choice - get over it. The more you try and suggest otherwise the more you appear completely disingenuous (sadly, that's almost all the time).

Again, you're a lying sack of shit.

Every time you post, more and more used douche dribbles out of your nasty mouth. And everyone can see just what a nasty piece of work you are, except you and your two douchebag friends.

So "get over yourself" yourself.

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Monday, June 13, 2016 11:11 AM

Be right back

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Monday, June 13, 2016 11:18 AM

Ok I'm back. Below is all SIGNYM. Her post is from 2009. She started this thread, yet Trump is her choice for president.

Why I Hate Capitalism

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Saturday, November 21, 2015 23:25
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Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:19 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

If you were to read the article, you'd find that the company owner was all about turning those peanuts on the floor into money. That was his big concern, and his ONLY concern. Because companies that make high profits get to grab more market share and buy up other companies.

It's not that this guy was a "bad guy". It's that companies get no joy out of following the rules IF IT COSTS THEM MONEY because they will lose profits anf market share. Because companies that lie, cheat, and steal WILL out-compete companies that don't. Because in the end what really counts... under captailism... is survival of the most brutal and the most rapacious.

It has nothing to do with human nature. You could be the nicest guy in the world. Pay your workers a living wage, take that extra buck and reduce pollution, get involved in your community.... and you'll eventually be overwhelmed by the most noxious companies around. That's capitalism!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

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Monday, June 13, 2016 11:37 AM

Ok, ok, be right back

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Monday, June 13, 2016 11:39 AM

Below is SIG describing the Donald Trump's of the corporate world without calling them out by name. Yet Trump is her choice for president.

Friday, February 13, 2009 4:32 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

This is the ONE TIME when harsh punishment would act as a deterent.

'Cause MOST criminals are so out of control of their own emotions that they're not thinking an hour ahead of time, much less a week or a year.

But corporate criminals???

They weigh the odds. They balance the risk of getting caught and the severity of punishment against the reward of potentially killing people for a higher profit.

If they really thought they'd be strung up by their balls for it their equations would come out a whole lot differently!

"Lynching is too good for 'em!"
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Monday, June 13, 2016 11:48 AM

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And that is what I like about Trump.

HE WEIGHS THE ODDS.

So unlike Hillary, who is so mesmerized by her neocon vision of the world that she will bounce in her seat a little, clap her hands, and laugh as she initiates WWIII (Yanno, kind of like she did when she unleashed Armageddon on Libya) Trump will take a much more realistic view of who might actually win, and how much damage he - and the USA- would sustain.

In addition to being somewhat manic (IMHO) Trump is a bully. But like all playground bullies, Trump has a pretty fine ear for anyone who might come along who is stronger than he is. At that point, he will negotiate. Trump is 50/50.

Hillary, OTOH, is a proven loser. She reliably initiates international confrontations that she can't possibly bring to successful conclusion.

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Monday, June 13, 2016 12:52 PM

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And that is what I like about Trump.

HE WEIGHS THE ODDS.

So unlike Hillary, who is so mesmerized by her neocon vision of the world that she will bounce in her seat a little, clap her hands, and laugh as she initiates WWIII (Yanno, kind of like she did when she unleashed Armageddon on Libya) Trump will take a much more realistic view of who might actually win, and how much damage he - and the USA- would sustain.

In addition to being somewhat manic (IMHO) Trump is a bully. But like all playground bullies, Trump has a pretty fine ear for anyone who might come along who is stronger than he is. At that point, he will negotiate. Trump is 50/50.

Hillary, OTOH, is a proven loser. She reliably initiates international confrontations that she can't possibly bring to successful conclusion.

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Military analysts: Donald Trump's plan to bomb Iraq's oil fields not a good one
Donald Trump Promises To Force Our Military To Commit War Crimes
Donald Trump, Ted Cruz and the folly of carpet bombing
Donald Trump: ban all Muslims

Carpet bombing SIG, kill everyone in an entire city. What a fuck up you are.

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Monday, June 13, 2016 12:55 PM

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Carpet bombing SIG, kill everyone in an entire city. What a fuck up you are.

What do you think "shock and awe" was? But you were down with that!

And you were OK with bombing Libya too, weren't you? And you supported bombing Syria.

Do you know what the difference is between Trump and Hillary? Trump shoots his mouth off. Hillary actually does what Trump talks about.

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I'll tell you what I DON'T like about Trump: I think that he has never confronted either the international banking cartel, nor the CIA-State Dept multi-headed hydra, nor the military-industrial complex. The last person to confront them was JFK (BTW, ALL immigration was illegal under JFK) and look what happened to him.

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Monday, June 13, 2016 1:04 PM

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Carpet bombing SIG, kill everyone in an entire city. What a fuck up you are.
What do you think "shock and awe" was? But you were down with that!

Shock and awe was laser targeted strikes not carpet bombing, hence the term awe, but you know that. Secondly, you think you are debating me about who Trump is. You are not. I am posting his words to show what you post about him is utter nonsense. Like being 50/50.

Military analysts: Donald Trump's plan to bomb Iraq's oil fields not a good one
Donald Trump Promises To Force Our Military To Commit War Crimes
Donald Trump, Ted Cruz and the folly of carpet bombing
Donald Trump: ban all Muslims

Yano, level headed.

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Monday, June 13, 2016 1:09 PM

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Carpet bombing SIG, kill everyone in an entire city. What a fuck up you are.- THIRDSATOOGE

What do you think "shock and awe" was? But you were down with that! -SIGNY

Shock and awe was laser targeted strikes not carpet bombing, but you know that.

Bullshit. 90% of the bombs dropped in Iraq were "dumb iron". But you know that.

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Secondly, you think you are debating me about who Trump is. You are not. I am posting his words to show what you post about him is utter nonsense. Like being 50/50. Yano, level headed.

I have no idea what this means.

I know who Trump is. He's a blowhard, a bully, and probably hypomanic. But he - unlike Hillary- hasn't had anyone killed. Hillary is a giddy power-mad bitch who laughs and claps her hands when she manages to take a nation into destruction.

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Monday, June 13, 2016 1:17 PM

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Bullshit. 90% of the bombs dropped in Iraq were "dumb iron". But you know that.

No free fall bombs are dropped on cities in the Middle East by the United States.

None SIG, but you know that.

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Monday, June 13, 2016 1:21 PM

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Secondly, you think you are debating me about who Trump is. You are not. I am posting his words to show what you post about him is utter nonsense. Like being 50/50. Yano, level headed.

Response: SIG

"I have no idea what this means."

It means you make statements as to who and what Trump is and what he will do as president. I simply posted what he says he will do. And they are quite different than what you post.

Military analysts: Donald Trump's plan to bomb Iraq's oil fields not a good one
Donald Trump Promises To Force Our Military To Commit War Crimes
Donald Trump, Ted Cruz and the folly of carpet bombing
Donald Trump: ban all Muslims
An Embargo on China
Banning the Concept of Climate Change
Seek Revenge on His Haters

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Monday, June 13, 2016 1:41 PM

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I know who Trump is. He's a blowhard, a bully, and probably hypomanic. But he - unlike Hillary- hasn't had anyone killed. Hillary is a giddy power-mad bitch who laughs and claps her hands when she manages to take a nation into destruction.

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Monday, June 13, 2016 1:52 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I know who Trump is. He's a blowhard, a bully, and probably hypomanic. But he - unlike Hillary- hasn't had anyone killed. Hillary is a giddy power-mad bitch who laughs and claps her hands when she manages to take a nation into destruction.

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I'll tell you what I DON'T like about Trump: I think that he has never confronted either the international banking cartel, nor the CIA-State Dept multi-headed hydra, nor the military-industrial complex. The last person to confront them was JFK (BTW, ALL immigration was illegal under JFK) and look what happened to him.

You have posted all kinds of misinformation and exaggerations against Clinton so you can attack her now and when she is president. Saying a few bad things about Trump is just a cover because you are voting for him, the capitalist, and not the republican described socialist Clinton.

Explain that, sorry that has been what you have been doing. My point is that it isn't selling.

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Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:11 AM

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Saudi Arabia Has Funded 20% Of Hillary's Presidential Campaign, Saudi Crown Prince Claims

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...As MEE notes, the Petra News Agency published on Sunday what it described as exclusive comments from Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman which included a claim that Riyadh has provided 20 percent of the total funding to the prospective Democratic candidate's campaign. The report was later deleted and the news agency has not responded to requests for comment from Middle East Eye. However, the deletion took place too late, as the Washington-based Institute for Gulf Affairs managed to capture the report and has re-published the original Arabic Petra report, which quoted Prince Mohammed as having said Saudi Arabia had provided with “full enthusiasm” an undisclosed amount of money to Clinton.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/saudi-arabia-has-funded-20-hi
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Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:17 AM

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You say I'm a lying sack of shit because I say, "no one here thinks Hillary is a great choice."

No, I said you're lying because

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The more you try and suggest otherwise

You're imputing motives to me that you couldn't possibly know, and which aren't true. In other words, you're lying.

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