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In the West, functionally speaking, “terrorist” is now a propaganda term with little meaning other than “a Muslim who engages in violence against Westerners or their allies.” It’s even used for Muslims who attack soldiers of an army occupying their country.

The scholars Remi Brulin and Lisa Stampnitzky have spent years documenting how the term “terrorist”, from the start, was little more than a propaganda tool designed to legitimize one side’s violence while delegitimizing its enemies’ violence.

https://theintercept.com/2016/06/17/why-is-the-killer-of-british-mp-jo
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He passed a back ground check, blame the feds.

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The problem with this logic is that in the case of DASH they claim to represent Islam and do not. They claim to be fighting for things most of their fellow Arabs do not support. They are not fighting for the Middle East to have the right to determine it's own fate. Instead they are fighting to force their warped ideologies onto everyone through terror.

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The problem with this logic is that in the case of DASH they claim to represent Islam and do not. They claim to be fighting for things most of their fellow Arabs do not support. They are not fighting for the Middle East to have the right to determine it's own fate. Instead they are fighting to force their warped ideologies onto everyone through terror.

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If you understood the article, you would NOT have mentioned DASH.

The article's title is: Why is the killer of British MP Jo Cox NOT being called a “Terrorist”? Because the killer is white male Thomas Mair, a Britain First affiliate. The excuse the newspapers use is that Mair suffered from mental illness which is now terror shorthand for ‘he wasn’t Muslim’ even if Mair was a Nazi. Mair had struggles with mental illness. But exactly the same was true of Omar Mateen, who slaughtered 49 people in an Orlando LGBT club last week, and he was instantly decreed to be a “terrorist” by essentially every media outlet despite those mental health issues and his obvious struggles with his own sexual orientation.
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/17/why-is-the-killer-of-british-mp-jo
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I guess I need to mention that because Omar Mateen was called a "terrorist", John McCain launched an attack on Obama because the President had not sent more troops to the Middle East to fight "terrorists" that McCain wants killed. McCain has fallen into the lazy habit of calling everybody who is a bad Muslim a "terrorist" because McCain isn't thinking straight and McCain imagined that Orlando and the Middle East were connected because everything bad is "terrorism". McCain had to retract his claim that Obama caused the killings in Orlando when somebody pointed out that doddering old fool McCain was making less sense than usual.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/06/16/3789634/nra-favorite-john
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Originally posted by second:
www.gocomics.com/chanlowe/2016/06/13

Second amendment cases at the Supreme Court ought to take into account the invention of the cartridge, the ammo magazine, the semi-automatic rifle and handgun. The Supreme Court has already ruled that the second amendment does not cover hand grenades or rocket propelled grenades, despite the fact that Justice Antonin Scalia suggests ‘hand-held rocket launchers’ are protected under second amendment.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/29/602491/scalia-rocket-launc
her/

Opinions differ, as is usual.
www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Second-Amendment-restricted-to-guns

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Originally posted by second:
In very few words Jayne has today blamed Orlando on Obama and attacked Obama for immigration. Jayne defines every Muslim criminal as a “terrorist” in this retweet:

Adam Baldwin Retweeted
WH PRESS SECRETARY @weknowwhatsbest 16h16 hours ago

Pres Obama plans to process one million Syrians into America. Relax, if only 1/10th of 1% are terrorists, that's only 1,000 Orlandos.

1,055 retweets 772 likes
6:47 PM - 17 Jun 2016
https://twitter.com/weknowwhatsbest/status/743983416891179009

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Feds add Orlando gay club shooter’s father, wife to no-fly lists
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-add-orlando-gay-club-shooter%E2%
80%99s-father-wife-to-no-fly-lists/ar-AAhdXeL

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Father held a press conference and said it was the club's fault. They should have had better security, "they could have stopped my son." No lie.

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So,
For whozit or anyone else espousing the NRA line: I asked this question earlier and didn't get an answer. Here it is again in a more expanded form:

As I understand it, the NRA's position is that it's people with guns who are the problem, not the guns themselves. Given that the NRA sees the problem as the wrong people getting guns, what is its solution for the roughly 33,000 of the wrong people getting guns?

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www.gocomics.com/chanlowe/2016/06/13

Second amendment cases at the Supreme Court ought to take into account the invention of the cartridge, the ammo magazine, the semi-automatic rifle and handgun. The Supreme Court has already ruled that the second amendment does not cover hand grenades or rocket propelled grenades, despite the fact that Justice Antonin Scalia suggests ‘hand-held rocket launchers’ are protected under second amendment.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/29/602491/scalia-rocket-launc
her/

Opinions differ, as is usual.
www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Second-Amendment-restricted-to-guns

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I agree. The AR15 is designed to kill at times of war. AR stands for assault rifle. I take the designers at their word.

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www.gocomics.com/chanlowe/2016/06/13

Second amendment cases at the Supreme Court ought to take into account the invention of the cartridge, the ammo magazine, the semi-automatic rifle and handgun. The Supreme Court has already ruled that the second amendment does not cover hand grenades or rocket propelled grenades, despite the fact that Justice Antonin Scalia suggests ‘hand-held rocket launchers’ are protected under second amendment.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/29/602491/scalia-rocket-launc
her/

Opinions differ, as is usual.
www.quora.com/Why-is-the-Second-Amendment-restricted-to-guns

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I agree. The AR15 is designed to kill at times of war. AR stands for assault rifle. I take the designers at their word.

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Nope. AR in the AR-15 title stands for Armalite, the company that originally made it.

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I've been surprised how unified the Republicans have been, I haven't heard about any caving...yet. People are paying attention to the news so the libs are having trouble spinning this.

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Spin this:

Gun Industry Describes Mass Shootings Like Orlando as a “Big Opportunity”

In recent corporate presentations, leading gun makers celebrated the fact that consumers bought more firearms because of the December terrorist attack in San Bernardino. And, prior to the massacre at a gay nightclub in Orlando on Saturday night, executives were telling investors to expect another big bump — because of the upcoming elections.

Sturm, Ruger & Co. Chief Executive Michael Fifer, speaking at his company’s annual meeting in May, noted that his company — the largest handgun manufacturer in the U.S. — saw a spike in demand that “was strongly correlated to the tragic terrorist activities in Paris and San Bernardino.” Sales eventually slowed down, but Fifer called that a “big opportunity for the distributors to step up and take on inventory” to be ready for election-related sales.

In February, on an investor conference call, Fifer had predicted that “we’ll see a step up of demand if a Democrat wins” the presidency. And if Democrats win control of the Senate, he added, gun sales will increase dramatically based on fears that a more liberal Supreme Court might restrict gun rights.
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/13/election-gun-sales/

Every mass shooting is a new opportunity to make more money money money, glorious money.

Shares in US gun companies up after Orlando mass shooting
www.bbc.com/news/business-36524602
Shares in US gun companies rose on Monday following Sunday's attack on the Pulse gay nightclub in Orlando, in which 49 people were killed.

Smith & Wesson shares closed up 6.9% while competitor Sturm, Ruger and Company saw its shares finish up 8.5%.

Shares in US firearm manufacturers typically rise after a mass shooting.

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