Was Holly Raped? by 6IXSTRINGJACK

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Was Holly Raped?

POSTED BY: 6IXSTRINGJACK
UPDATED: Friday, October 7, 2016 04:17
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Sunday, September 4, 2016 8:51 PM

Here's a long story, about a very close and one of the only female friends of mine.

A few years after I stopped partying at a bunch of House Parties (that were pretty admitedidly awesome), I got a call from my step-mom saying some girl named Holly was looking for me. Apparently she had called all the *LAST NAME CENSORED* and finally found somebody who knew somebody who looked like me.

For almost 2 years, we had a great time together. I always knew She wanted me, but I never acted on it. She was super classy and nice, but could get dirty when She wanted to. One time She swore She couldn't hold it anymore and so I stopped in a dark ally and She peed standing up.

No TP, No Questions Asked, just "Keep Driving"....

One night we both got super drunk and I kissed Her.

If there were ever one thing I wish I could have taken back in my entire life, it would be that kiss.

Now she wanted to hang out with my friends, even if we weren't dating. I was doing a lot of Karaoke at the time, and a majority of my friends were a sausage fest. It was 2:00AM and closing time, but I knew the owner of the Karaoke Bar and asked him if I could buy some beer. He gave me 2 cases for free, no joke....

It's 2:30AM and there are like 6 guys and 3 girls from the bar. 4 of these guys are guys that I've known since like Kindergarten or 2nd grade. The other two, and the owner of the apartment I only knew like 4 years.

All good guys though....

Turns out, John has a pair of handcuffs in his junk drawer....

I swear to GOD that I would never do this again, but for whatever reason, I thought it would be funny to slap it on my wrist and then slap it on Holly's wrist.

...

WRONG!!!! MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have no idea where it came from, but She shrieked like a banshee and made me feel like the BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT THAT EVER LIVED FOR LIKE 5 minutes until John the owner of the apartment brought out some snips to unchain us.

From there, She was all smiles following him into his beadroom.

I was there like 2 more hours before I left.

I never thought about them much again.

Mainly, I would submit, because I didn't hear anything from them again.

a few days later, Holly wants to tell me that she thinks she was raped...

NO.

You scream while you're being raped.

You at least yell enough while your enjoying it to match how you were screaming in my ear when I handcuffed you as a fucking joke.

I don't know what happened to you when you were a child that you went into his bedroom with that big smile on your face after he freed you from handcuffs, but I'm not going to be your witness on a rape charge after the fact.

If he was Raping you, I would have heard it. If he was raping you, the entire apartment complex would have heard it.

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Sunday, September 4, 2016 9:07 PM

WISHIMAY

If you don't know anything, you don't know anything.
Did she get knocked up or something?

Not sure what peeing standing up has to do with anything. Most of us can do that with a little practice...

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Sunday, September 4, 2016 11:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I lost a friendship over that Wish...

She called me up almost a week later and told me "I think, I was raped".

"I think, you can go fuck yourself".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, September 5, 2016 2:36 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

I'm with Wish on this one Six. So, basically she's looking to you to back her story of rape. If you didn't actually see this or hear this happen, then you can't go and file a report.

If you go with a man into his bedroom and are raped, make it known to everyone there or go report it. But if she isn't sure, how can she expect you to back her claim?

SGG

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I lost a friendship over that Wish...

She called me up almost a week later and told me "I think, I was raped".

"I think, you can go fuck yourself".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, September 5, 2016 8:31 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

This is only something that Holly and that man would know. And maybe not even Holly, if she was drugged.

It's something you can't comment on. Since you weren't a witness, everything about "the act" that you think you know is either speculation or heresay. Your time on the witness stand would be very brief and unproductive.

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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.

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Monday, September 12, 2016 11:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I do appreciate the comments here, and I didn't mean to say "go fuck yourself" to Wish.

I love you Wish! :)

I'm happy to see the comments here.

I lost a friend over this. Part of me thinks it's because I didn't stand up for her on her alleged rape charges, but the honest part of me really thinks that she was just a fucked up girl with divorced parents like me, who had been on her own even longer than I had.

That's why I never should have kissed her, even though I know that's what she was always wanting.

We were really good friends, and we still would have been if I didn't drunkenly give in to my own insecurities and what I thought she wanted.

As beautiful a girl as Holly was, and as cute a voice she had, I just wasn't sexually attracted to her. Like, at all. It was like trying hard to get a boner for your sister.

Sure, I was pissed at her by the time the shrieking stopped after the snips came out and un-chained us, but I wasn't so bitter that I'd just let her be consumed by evil by it.

John was always a dick. Even she knew he was a dick and we'd laugh about it. We'd been friends for over a year and hung out and did karaoke and everything together.

It's only when I get older that I realize that something probably did happen in her past. Or at least, she was WAY TOO YOUNG to watch horror movies as a child when she saw a woman handcuffed.

I'm one of the good guys. :(

I wouldn't show it at the party, but even now looking back on it, even though she was pretty drunk too, I almost want to cry thinking about how loud she screamed when we found out there was no key to the cuffs.

Maybe, even given that, even given the 15+ beers I had already drunk that night, I should have come to her rescue.

But she was happy. She was free from the cuffs. She was smiling and having a good time again. John was there for her. John was her Disney Prince. The door closed, and from an outside view I have to say that nothing spectacular happened. No walls were rocked. No screaming was heard. It was his place and with the question of "Me?" off Holly's table, she made her choice for the night.

It's a shame that I, to this day, still feel sorry that I didn't "support her".

She didn't even call me to tell me she was raped. She called me and acted weird and when I cajoled it out of her she said "I think I was raped". I mean, that alone begs the question if penetration ever even took place, doesn't it?

THIS is one of my biggest problems with modern Feminists and the SWJ crowd today and what I see of college campuses on YouTube in general....

The NEW thing is that all Drunk Sex is rape.

Let me REPEAT THAT.

ALL DRUNK SEX IS RAPE.

In the mean time, I never heard a single Fringe Feminist suggest that College Girls should dress less provocatively, or study harder, or NOT get drunk.

All I hear is that College Girls today being drunk is some sort of "Get Out of Jail Free Card". The truly crazy ones put on their Victoria's Secret's Best and go on a "Slut Walk" for equality.

I'm not even joking. Google it.

I don't have sex with women anymore. I would have sex with men, because they're so much more agreeable in general, but they don't attract me sexually and if I wanted a poopy dick I'd just reach into my toilet tomorrow and grab that Baby Ruth and rub it all over my balls.

As it turns out, I live in a "Fantasy World" sexually that is transcendent to what most of you mortals know. Particularly those of you who never "got high". Fear not though, straight edged mortals. If you ever change your mind and want to take a walk on the wild side, I'll show you what a mind-rape is and conventional sex after that moment will be like making small talk.

All we need first is for you to fill out this form. And Initial here.... and here.... and here... and there.....

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Cowards.

and/or

Put in your place.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:24 PM

BYTEMITE

I think she could have been, sounds like everyone was very drunk. You think she knew what was going on, but did she? What if she was so drunk the handcuff thing and the guy leading her to the bedroom bled together in her memory, what if it was vague and foggy? If her memory was that compromised, how can we really say she was aware of herself when whatever it is she's saying happened?

There was another time you told me about where someone came to you and told you that they thought they were raped after she got drunk and got into a car with a friend of yours and you thought she looked happy.

And when I said that maybe she had been raped, you were shocked, and you were sure that she couldn't have been because you'd never let anything like that happen to her. You saw yourself as a defender of women against things like that happening to them.

Is the reason you're troubled and asking about this because you have some uncertainty and doubt now? It seems like it is to me, otherwise why ask? Otherwise why are you asking a question you say you already know the answer to?

To me it sounds like girls often got in compromised situations at parties you were at, and you told yourself it was okay, and that everyone who was concerned or worried about it was really making a big deal out of nothing. And the moment a girl came forward and confided in you that they were concerned about something that happened to them, you drop them. Immediately. Because they were clearly a bad girl out to hurt your bros. Even though you admit that sometimes your bros were kinda assholes - maybe you hang out with some not very nice people then.

So maybe it was nothing, or maybe it was rape. Either way, both times it doesn't seem like you really knew the facts of the case, and so you were probably right to refuse to be a witness. In the very least it wasn't you who did the act if that was in fact what it was.

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Saturday, October 1, 2016 5:46 PM

ELVISCHRIST

"The NEW thing is that all Drunk Sex is rape.

Let me REPEAT THAT.

ALL DRUNK SEX IS RAPE.

In the mean time, I never heard a single Fringe Feminist suggest that College Girls should dress less provocatively, or study harder, or NOT get drunk."

And how often do you hear College Boys being told NOT TO RAPE?

Right here, in this post, you've just pointed out how you're part of the whole rape culture. You blame the girl for "dressing provocatively," - and never suggest in any way that a man who is "provoked" to rape is in the wrong.

What the fuck is "dressing provocatively" anyway? Some people are turned on by nuns. Are nuns asking for rape, then?

Every goddam time you post, you prove just a little bit more what a complete and utter fucking asshole piece of shit you truly are.

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Monday, October 3, 2016 5:08 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

'You scream while you are being raped'

Really Jack. You are telling women how to behave while being raped.,the ultimate mansplain

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Monday, October 3, 2016 5:10 PM

THGRRI

Quote:
Originally posted by MAGONSDAUGHTER:
'You scream while you are being raped'

Really Jack. You are telling women how to behave while being raped.,the ultimate mansplain

First Hello again. Second, it's Jack Magon. You really need to ask yourself is any of this real?

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Friday, October 7, 2016 4:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Hey Byte.

Welcome Back :)

I think you're mistaking me for somebody else with the other story you're talking about though.

If you have an example or a link or a story i might remember of something you're talking about to jog my memory, I would appreciate it.

This was my "Rape" story.

This guy wasn't a true friend of mine, although we'd hung out for about 4 years through mutual friends I grew up with.

I don't need another reason to feel potentially guilty about something I asked a question about.

If I didn't actually question this scenario in my own head when I was asking the question, nearly a decade later, I wouldn't have been asking you if Holly was raped.

The more I think about it, the more I think they likely had sex. For many years, I didn't even believe that even happend because even when she called me up about it, she couldn't tell me if they had sex.

I'm not the "Gay Best Friend" Byte. I didn't know which one of my friends she may or may not have wanted to fuck around with. Up until the moment she was screaming bloody murder in my fucking ear after I clicked the cuffs, I just always assumed that I was the guy she wanted in my group.

I wasn't really attracted to her, but I liked being her friend and hanging out. It's kind of funny how much less you like a person after they spend 5 minutes screaming in your ear like you're raping them at 3AM while you're looking for a tool to break yourself loose.

I always pretty much hated John, but even my best friend since kindergarten liked haning out with him. He was charasmatic as fuck. When he wanted to, he "rained bitches" at after parties at any apartment we were going to.

It's not that any of us couldn't do it with our looks, and some of us with our money, but John never needed any of that. He was the type of guy who could be a snake living on the street and hypnotize people. My best friend even told me once that he must have made a deal with the devil.

WTF Holly

why didn't you force the issue on me?

I know that's victim blaming, but I'm talking about something that happened over 10 years ago now that i obviously still regret.

I will never say that Holly was raped.

She was over 20 and much more than an adult. She even came to the party after many of us were drinking for hours before.

Did Holly make a bad decision?

You bet your fucking ass she did....

But I'm 100% sure that she killed any babies the day after, and she was so drunk that she was asking me the day after if she was raped.

I can't be the fucking gatekeeper for everyone's sex

I put a pair of "what I thought" was joke handcuffs on us, and IMMEDIATELY started having a girl scream in my ears.

Obviously, something traumatic had happened to her or somebody close to her regarding cuffs in the past or she just would have been like 99.9% of the other girls I hung with.

I'm not talking tiny whimpering. I'm talking "It's 3:00AM on a Tuesday night, you better shut your bitch up cause I got sleeping neighbors" screaming.

I asked her twice if she was okay and if she wanted to come back out into the room with me, and she said no.

She looked happy where she was. She was smiling. Definately sleepy, but happy and answering my questions.

As much as I do not like the guy in question, and we had other VERY BAD things to BUMP HEADS about later....

Even to this day I still find it hard to call this rape.

There were no rape drugs involved.

I was in the other room.

I was drunk and stoned out of my mind, but so was she.

The handcuffs were kind of a joke but in my mind symbolized a bond between us, even if just as really good friends.

I didn't expect the shrieking banshee in my ear result immediately. I couldn't talk her down. I couldn't do anything to calm her down. If it were my house, I have a million tools that could have broken that link in 5 seconds or less. It took over a minute, but John broke out a hacksaw and "saved the princess"

If you could only see the loving look she gave him when they retired to his bedroom.

22 year old woman, acting like a child, then looking like she found her prince charming.

I knew he was a dick, but she wasn't fucking screaming in my ear anymore and looked happy.

She never would have even kissed John if I didn't cuff her first. I know that.

At that point, I had about 22 beers. Somehow, even when I drove, I always got everyone home safe. People called me Papa Jack.

Sometimes I even got pulled over, and even after 12 or more beers, I was able to talk my way out of it and get everyone home safe.

LOL.... one time I even asked the cops if I could take a moment to stretch before I walked the line. They both were giggling like schoolgirls because they never saw that before...

Then I owned that LINE.

Even though I had drank at least 10 beers in the last 3 hours.

20+ years, and this is my only potential regret outside of getting married (which I'm still pretty happy about not getting married).

It would bother me more if I thought she were a helpless princess that needed watching over. But She wasn't, even back in the mid 2000s

I hadn't seen her for over a year. She was pretty tech savvy. Out of the blue, my Step Mom one day asked me if I knew a "Holly".

She somehow knew my last name and had been looking me up and wanted to hook up. This is not a Stupid Girl. This is not The Princess in another castle. This was a Girl who knew what she wanted.

At the end of the day, it was that scene where I should have punched out John and I was Marty McFly's dad.

The only problem was, I didn't really like her like that.

She was kind of like a "Bro" to me. I remember we loved listening to Lenny Kravits and tAtU together.

If we're hanging out and somebody comes from the shadows and tries to consume you, I'd die trying to stop it.

If somebody "saves" you from being handcuffed from me and the last thing I see before the door closing is you smiling at him, I'm not going to play fucking Thought Police.

I miss you Holly.

Sorry this bullshit got in between us. I hope you're doing well.

This song is for you, if you should ever find it :)

You're one of one girls I've ever met that might ever put this 2 and 2 together :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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