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Do you even hear yourself anymore? Here you are, instead of trying to change American cruelty, using "their" cruelty to justify yours. Doesn't that make YOU cruel, too?

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We are in approximate agreement. Now let me get back to being cruel and kicking old, fat, lecherous Trump while he is down

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You both bash America and our allies too propagate Putin's agenda of undermining democracy.

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They are speaking from their hearts, not from their bank accounts filled with $1,000,000 of Trump money

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A: And then as he points over my shoulder, he grabs me and turns me to him. And that was a shock. And I tried to push him away. And I only weighed about 120 pounds at that time. He was a very large man. And I kept telling him, “No. I don’t want this at all.”

And he grabbed me again, very forcefully. And started biting on my top lip. And this was extremely painful. I thought he was going to bite my lip off. And that’s when he pushed me back onto the bed.

Q:He bit you at the top of your lip. He pushed you onto the bed. And then what happened?

A: It’s been so long and it is just so hard to go into. I need to stop.
(crying)
You, know, why? Why is it still so painful?
(crying)

Q: What is going through your mind right now?

A: That I am afraid of him.

Q:You are still afraid of him?

A: Yes. That I am still afraid. Especially if she becomes president. And I know it’s looking that way. So it’s frightening ... It’s frightening.

I was completely dressed. I had a skirt and a blouse. He tore the waist of my skirt. And then he ripped my pantyhose. And he raped me. It was very vicious. I was just pinned down… I did not know what to do. I was so frightened. I was only 35 at the time. And it was horrible. I just wanted it to be over with. So he would go away.

Q: He got up?

A: No, he held me down for a long time. And then he did it again. I was so ready for him to leave me alone. When he started raping me again. And it was very brief… And he did get up and he straightened himself. And my mouth was bleeding and it was hurting. And he just straightens himself and goes to the door.

Q: With you still on the bed?

A: Yes, crying. He straightens himself and he goes to the door. And puts on his sunglasses. And tells me to get some ice on that on my lip. And goes out the door. He would push down on my left clavicle and it hurt so much I thought my clavicle was gonna break. And my lip was just ballooning out four times the size that it should have been.

Q: While he was raping you?

A: Yes.

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THUGR

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You both bash America and our allies too propagate Putin's agenda of undermining democracy.

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I love America and I love democracy, which is why it pains me so much to see both America and democracy abused on behalf of international consortia and war-mongers. Apparently you're willing to sell Americans down the river for the benefit of others. You're such a tool.

Just like Hillary, your hero, who would rather get rid of Assad even if it means consigning entire generations of Syrian women to wahhabist slavery.

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laughable comrade. You speak of your love of America and bash it as you do. You even manage to put Putin's agenda of supporting Assad front and center as you do.





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A: And then as he points over my shoulder, he grabs me and turns me to him. And that was a shock. And I tried to push him away. And I only weighed about 120 pounds at that time. He was a very large man. And I kept telling him, “No. I don’t want this at all.”

And he grabbed me again, very forcefully. And started biting on my top lip. And this was extremely painful. I thought he was going to bite my lip off. And that’s when he pushed me back onto the bed.

Q:He bit you at the top of your lip. He pushed you onto the bed. And then what happened?

A: It’s been so long and it is just so hard to go into. I need to stop.
(crying)
You, know, why? Why is it still so painful?
(crying)

Q: What is going through your mind right now?

A: That I am afraid of him.

Q:You are still afraid of him?

A: Yes. That I am still afraid. Especially if she becomes president. And I know it’s looking that way. So it’s frightening ... It’s frightening.

I was completely dressed. I had a skirt and a blouse. He tore the waist of my skirt. And then he ripped my pantyhose. And he raped me. It was very vicious. I was just pinned down… I did not know what to do. I was so frightened. I was only 35 at the time. And it was horrible. I just wanted it to be over with. So he would go away.

Q: He got up?

A: No, he held me down for a long time. And then he did it again. I was so ready for him to leave me alone. When he started raping me again. And it was very brief… And he did get up and he straightened himself. And my mouth was bleeding and it was hurting. And he just straightens himself and goes to the door.

Q: With you still on the bed?

A: Yes, crying. He straightens himself and he goes to the door. And puts on his sunglasses. And tells me to get some ice on that on my lip. And goes out the door. He would push down on my left clavicle and it hurt so much I thought my clavicle was gonna break. And my lip was just ballooning out four times the size that it should have been.

Q: While he was raping you?

A: Yes.

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You both bash America and our allies too propagate Putin's agenda of undermining democracy. - THUGR

I love America and I love democracy, which is why it pains me so much to see both America and democracy abused on behalf of international consortia and war-mongers. Apparently you're willing to sell Americans down the river for the benefit of others. You're such a tool.

(TO 2ND) Just like Hillary, your hero, who would rather get rid of Assad even if it means consigning entire generations of Syrian women to wahhabist slavery.

laughable comrade. You speak of your love of America and bash it as you do. You even manage to put Putin's agenda of supporting Assad front and center as you do. - THUGR

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I happen to know a Syrian Xtian.

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Stop asshole, I wish I has a nickel every time I've seen you post about first hand knowledge on a topic. Besides what you claim is anecdotal.

As for the last of your post that puts forth questions about Russia. I will find and bump your thread about a discussion on Russia.


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"The problem I have with the media is they only cover the suffering of the people in those rebel-held areas," he says. "When they do cover the suffering of the government-held areas, they dehumanize the people."

Beshara thinks US media outlets consistently ignore rebel attacks on the outskirts of Damascus, including indiscriminate shelling of neighborhoods, injuring non-combatants. He argues that last May, when ISIS forces went on a bombing spree that killed more than 70 people in the coastal cities of Tartus and Jableh, the Western media coverage was muted.

"Essentially, all the news outlets described the people that were bombed in these places as being in an 'Assad stronghold,'" he says. "It sounds like a military target, like they're bombing a military base, like they're bombing 'Assad's people.' When in reality they're bombing ordinary civilians like me and you trying to go along with their everyday life."

Beshara's relatives in Syria are Christian. He worries about his extended family and friends living through the conflict there.

"If the Islamists take over, then all the religious minorities in Syria will be oppressed, they'll be second class citizens," he says. "I wish for the Syrian people to get the greatest chance at liberty and that's not going to happen with this revolution and Islamic rebels."

Beshara says he is not an Assad supporter, although he supports the army and views the vast majority of rebels as "terrorists."

"My hope for Syria is that it can create a national unity government, and guarantee a constitution where everyone has equal rights and pure secularism," he says. "When it's secular, it won't be like Saudi Arabia, where a woman can't even drive for example, and where Christians are clearly second class citizens."

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As for the last of your post that puts forth questions about Russia. I will find and bump your thread about a discussion on Russia.

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As for the last of your post that puts forth questions about Russia. I will find and bump your thread about a discussion on Russia.

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It's the same questions, asked over and over in different ways.

WHAT ARE AMERICA's INTERESTS? and

HOW DOES RUSSIA THREATEN THEM?

Oh, and BTW- please find those posts where I try to "undermine democracy". POST THEM, you lying sack of shit, of STFU.

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They are speaking from their hearts, not from their bank accounts filled with $1,000,000 of Trump money

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Oh, and just so another lying sack of shit doesn't get lost in the shuffle:

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If these women knew who you were, they should sue you for libel. You're a libelous, old, hateful, mean-spirited harpy. You think NOTHING of lying and making shit up out of whole cloth. Now we how supportive you are of women. Just like Hillary, your hero, who would rather get rid of Assad even if it means consigning entire generations of Syrian women to wahhabist slavery.

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Hey SECOND. She said the very same thing about me. I'll wear it as a badge that she said it about me first.

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Hey SECOND. She said the very same thing about me. I'll wear it as a badge that she said it about me first.

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Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Defending Trump because he is a "man's man" (the Republican view).

1. What he did 10 years ago is not important, let's focus on what Clinton did 20 years ago.
2. What he did 10 years ago is just being used as a distraction to the real issues of the election, let's talk about what Clinton did 20 years ago because that isn't a distraction.
3. Don't judge him on what he did 10 years ago, we need to judge Clinton on what her husband did 20 years ago.
4. He made those comments when he was a Democrat.
5. Bill Clinton has said worse things, so its OK for Trump to say slightly less offensive things.
6. He's a changed man from 10 years ago because he is so respectful of women now, like Rosie O'Donnell, Gail Collins, Megyn Kelly and Alicia Machado.

Besides, he apologized and that makes everything OK now.


Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So everybody - keep posting about Emmanuel Goldste... I mean Trump. Just let me know if you're curious who your next target is going to be . . .

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Oh, and just so another lying sack of shit doesn't get lost in the shuffle:

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If these women knew who you were, they should sue you for libel. You're a libelous, old, hateful, mean-spirited harpy. You think NOTHING of lying and making shit up out of whole cloth. Now we know how supportive you are of women. Just like Hillary, your hero . . .

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I did notice this morning that one of the Republican women attacking Hillary took $850,000 to break off her highly-principled-and-in-no-way-connected-to-either-money-or-politics attack on Bill Clinton. In April 1998, the case was dismissed by Republican Judge Susan Webber Wright as lacking legal merit. On appeal, in the midst of his trial for impeachment based on his testimony in the Jones case, Clinton was faced with the prospect of having to go under oath again and testify more about his sexual history. Instead, Clinton agreed to an out-of-court settlement, paying Jones and her lawyers $850,000 to drop the suit.

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In April 1999, Judge Wright found Clinton in civil contempt of court for misleading testimony in the Jones case. She ordered Clinton to pay $1,202 to the court and an additional $90,000 to Jones's lawyers for expenses incurred, far less than the $496,000 that the lawyers originally requested.

Wright then referred Clinton's conduct to the Arkansas Bar for disciplinary action, and on January 19, 2001, the day before Clinton left the office of president, he entered into an agreement with the Arkansas Bar and Independent Counsel Robert Ray under which Clinton was stripped of his license to practice law in Arkansas for a period of five years. His fine was paid from a fund raised for his legal expenses.

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You are right about me being mean spirited. You are wrong about my target. It is not women as my target. It is Republicans. There are woman-Republicans, so it does get confusing who I am shooting at.

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You are so biased you can't even tell where that little story that you tell yourself about the "good guys" and "bad guys" departs from reality . . . which is why we have the nightmare that is Obamacare.

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Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Well, now THAT was relevant! Not.

Interestingly, when you bring a pigeon within sight of something it really wants (seed) and something it's afraid of (cat) it will often do irrelevant things, like turn circles or preen its feathers.

Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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What an unusual and fortuitous coincidence that this video should come out immediately after Trump is in trouble when the video could have been made available anytime in the last 16 years.

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Originally posted by second:And the winner is Melania Trump wearing a $1,100 Gucci 'Pussy Bow' Shirt to the Debate. No more comment, and I am unanimous in that.

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I'm sure they snickered endlessly about that while sipping champagne.

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The New York Times’s Lawyer Responds to Donald Trump
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/13/us/politics/david-mccraw-trump-
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This is the letter David McCraw, vice president and assistant general counsel of The New York Times, wrote in response to a request from Marc E. Kasowitz, Mr. Trump's lawyer, to retract an article that featured two women accusing Mr. Trump of touching them inappropriately years ago, and issue an apology.

October 13, 2016

VIA ELECTRONIC DELIVERY
Marc E. Kasowitz, Esq.
Kasowitz, Benson, Torres & Friedman LLP
1633 Broadway
New York, NY 10019-6799

Re: Demand for Retraction

Dear Mr. Kasowitz:

I write in response to your letter of October 12, 2016 to Dean Baquet concerning your client Donald Trump, the Republican Party nominee for President of the United States. You write concerning our article “Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately” and label the article as “libel per se.” You ask that we “remove it from [our] website, and issue a full and immediate retraction and apology." We decline to do so.

The essence of a libel claim, of course, is the protection of one’s reputation. Mr. Trump has bragged about his non-consensual sexual touching of women. He has bragged about intruding on beauty pageant contestants in their dressing rooms. He acquiesced to a radio host’s request to discuss Mr. Trump’s own daughter as a “piece of ass.” Multiple women not mentioned in our article have publicly come forward to report on Mr. Trump’s unwanted advances. Nothing in our article has had the slightest effect on the reputation that Mr. Trump, through his own words and actions, has already created for himself.

But there is a larger and much more important point here. The women quoted in our story spoke out on an issue of national importance - indeed, an issue that Mr. Trump himself discussed with the whole nation watching during Sunday night’s presidential debate. Our reporters diligently worked to confirm the women’s accounts. They provided readers with Mr. Trump’s response, including his forceful denial of the women’s reports. It would have been a disservice not just to our readers but to democracy itself to silence their voices. We did what the law allows: We published newsworthy information about a subject of deep public concern. If Mr. Trump disagrees, if he believes that American citizens had no right to hear what these women had to say and that the law of this country forces us and those who would dare to criticize him to stand silent or be punished, we welcome the opportunity to have a court set him straight.

Sincerely,
David E. McCraw

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Originally posted by Brenda:
I was talking with a few Canadians over lunch last Thursday and one suggested that the Republicans just concede the election to Hillary because of what Trump is saying.

Then an American, I know that has lived in Canada for many years when I told him that suggested that the Republicans just pull Trump and run his VP as the Presidential candidate.

What do you all think? I think the first one is a good idea but maybe the second one could work as well.

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“It terrifies me and it should terrify all women,” Jones stated about Hillary’s presidential ambitions.

“It should terrify all men and women,” Willey added. “She will annihilate any enemy. All of her enemies. Anybody who has spoken against her. Across the board for I don’t know how many years. She will get rid of them.”

“No woman who advocates for women attacks the victims of sexual assault be it by her husband or anybody else,” said Willey.

The women argued that the term “enabler” best describes Hillary Clinton’s role in her husband’s alleged sexual crimes.

“There is not a better word for any of this,” stated Broaddrick. “Especially when she threatened me personally.”

Willey added, “She is complicit in everything that he has done.”

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Why do you believe one set of women and credit their importance - but not the other?

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Bill was found guilty at trial.

Trump hasn't had a trial yet.

Are you saying that Bill should be accorded all the benefits of a trial, but Trump should face the standard of 'first the hanging, then the trial'?

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What??? Bill got an acquittal.

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