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They have to look into it KPO for reasons too numerous to list. I would suggest that it appears to be fake news.

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They have to look into it KPO for reasons too numerous to list. I would suggest that it appears to be fake news.

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There Are Four Sources For Claims of Possible Trump-Russia Blackmail

There are four sources, though obviously we don't know if they're all getting their information from the same place. Nor do we know if any of this is true. It might still all be baseless innuendo.

Still, four sources. The BBC's Paul Wood is either a world-class crank or a helluva reporter. And we never would have known any of this if BuzzFeed hadn't gone ahead and published that dossier.

Here are the four sources and yet more detail on allegations that the Russians have possession of blackmail tapes on Donald Trump:

1) Claims about a Russian blackmail tape were made in one of a series of reports written by a former British intelligence agent. As a member of MI6, he had been posted to the UK's embassy in Moscow and now runs a consultancy giving advice on doing business in Russia. He spoke to a number of his old contacts in the FSB, the successor to the KGB, paying some of them for information.

2) ....The former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by "the head of an East European intelligence agency".

3) Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file — they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" — in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg — and that the material was "of a sexual nature". The claims of Russian kompromat on Mr Trump were "credible", the CIA believed.

....Last April, the CIA director was shown intelligence that worried him. It was — allegedly — a tape recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into the US presidential campaign.

4) It was passed to the US by an intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States. The CIA cannot act domestically against American citizens so a joint counter-intelligence taskforce was created....A lawyer — outside the Department of Justice but familiar with the case — told me that three of Mr Trump's associates were the subject of the inquiry. "But it's clear this is about Trump," he said.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/bbcs-paul-wood-there-are-four-s
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This has been in the background for months. Our intelligence and news agencies have tried to validate, ANY , of the talking points in the report. They have yet to do so. Therefore, I do not give any credence to it. Nor do I see any legitimate reason for a discussion of it in these threads or the mainstream news.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
This whole thing couldn't get any more surreal if you made it into an Twilight Zone episode. I keep waiting to find that one news article that explains why all this was allowed to happen like "We were trying to draw out a linchpin to stop WWIII" or some other piece of rational thought.

It was all just a joke, folks...

I didn't like Obama, but Trump makes Obama look like a saint.

I don't get it....

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This has been in the background for months. Our intelligence and news agencies have tried to validate, ANY , of the talking points in the report. They have yet to do so. Therefore, I do not give any credence to it. Nor do I see any legitimate reason for a discussion of it in these threads or the mainstream news.

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The intel and news agencies know that Trump has no shame, so it is impossible to blackmail him with sex-tapes. Trump would say, "So what? She was 18. Show it on TV. I don't care." Remember when Trump said I could 'shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters'. It is the same old.

How do you blackmail a guy like that?

www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/

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Originally posted by kpo:
Watersportsgate. The rumours have been swirling for months apparently, that Putin has seriously comprising material (or 'Kompromat') on Trump, from one or many of his Moscow business trips. Is this the reason Trump's rhetoric, foreign policy and cabinet picks are all so favourably configured towards Russia?

All unverified at the moment, but Obama and the president elect have both been briefed on this, so it's obvious the US security services are taking this seriously.

Some links:

Paul Wood, a senior BBC correspondent discusses his multiple sources corroborating the story - http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/can-donald-trump-really-compromis
ed-agent-russian-influence/

A background in the art of 'Kompromat' in Russia by the security services to discredit and control politicians - https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/01/kompromat-tr
ump-dossier/512891/

A profile of the British spy who put together the dossier (now in hiding, ostensibly in fear of his life) - a respected, ex-MI6 Russia expert who first cottoned on to the killing of Russian dissident Litvinenko by polonium tea -
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/12/intelligence-sources-v
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-int
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A good time line from NYT - it's a bit of a mess without a script!

So - show of hands: who thinks the president elect p*ssy grabber didn't get up to some naughty sh*t while being wined and dined in Russia? If that goofy elf from Entertainment Tonight can get him on tape anyone can. I bet it is epic stuff.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Trust me, it's only going to get better from here on out. This little news cycle is the tip of the iceberg. And yes, this is the cruelest joke on all of us. FUCKING TRUMP!!!

He's going to get "presidential" any minute now!


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
This whole thing couldn't get any more surreal if you made it into an Twilight Zone episode. I keep waiting to find that one news article that explains why all this was allowed to happen like "We were trying to draw out a linchpin to stop WWIII" or some other piece of rational thought.

It was all just a joke, folks...

I didn't like Obama, but Trump makes Obama look like a saint.

I don't get it....

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There are four sources, though obviously we don't know if they're all getting their information from the same place. Nor do we know if any of this is true. It might still all be baseless innuendo.

Still, four sources. The BBC's Paul Wood is either a world-class crank or a helluva reporter. And we never would have known any of this if BuzzFeed hadn't gone ahead and published that dossier.

Here are the four sources and yet more detail on allegations that the Russians have possession of blackmail tapes on Donald Trump:

1) Claims about a Russian blackmail tape were made in one of a series of reports written by a former British intelligence agent. As a member of MI6, he had been posted to the UK's embassy in Moscow and now runs a consultancy giving advice on doing business in Russia. He spoke to a number of his old contacts in the FSB, the successor to the KGB, paying some of them for information.

2) ....The former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by "the head of an East European intelligence agency".

3) Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file — they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" — in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg — and that the material was "of a sexual nature". The claims of Russian kompromat on Mr Trump were "credible", the CIA believed.

....Last April, the CIA director was shown intelligence that worried him. It was — allegedly — a tape recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into the US presidential campaign.

4) It was passed to the US by an intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States. The CIA cannot act domestically against American citizens so a joint counter-intelligence taskforce was created....A lawyer — outside the Department of Justice but familiar with the case — told me that three of Mr Trump's associates were the subject of the inquiry. "But it's clear this is about Trump," he said.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/01/bbcs-paul-wood-there-are-four-s
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It really is pathetic how some are conducting themselves now. The level of outright disrespect by some crybabies is staggering. Calling the president elect "pussy grabber" is just the same as somebody here calling Obama the N word before he took office.

They sure do cry a lot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Calling the president elect "pussy grabber" is just the same as somebody here calling Obama the N word before he took office.

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Calling the president elect "pussy grabber" is just the same as somebody here calling Obama the N word before he took office.

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You're really just ... unbelievable....

You know they have him ON TAPE saying that, right?

He literally implied if you grab a woman by the pussy you can do what you want and they won't say anything.

He's a RAPIST if he's done that. Touching anyone's genitalia without permission is assault.

It's why reasonable people believe he's done all kinds of nasty with all kinds of prostitutes, and probably 13 yr old girls. Because he's a skeeve.

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You're really just ... unbelievable....
You know they have him ON TAPE saying that, right?
He literally implied if you grab a woman by the pussy you can do what you want and they won't say anything.= WISH

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And for the record:

It's not surprising that KPO, G, WISH, SECOND, and SHINY were bamboozled by a piece of fake news. Seriously, doods, isn't there anything more real to post about?

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Except that's not what he said. What he said was "... and when you're a star THEY LET YOU DO IT."

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You seriously need to get on some pills or something Wish, and stop watching whatever feminist SJW crap you've been watching.

I don't know if you realize that you seem to have a vendetta against me and you seem to personally attack me every chance you get. I can't say I appreciate that none to much.

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Except that's not what he said. What he said was "... and when you're a star THEY LET YOU DO IT."

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THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IN MINDSET.

HE STILL THINKS HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS TO WOMEN AND GET AWAY WITH IT.

I can't believe ANY of you would defend that in any way shape or form.

Truly disgusting. The man is a PERV.

He wouldn't have said it if he hadn't DONE it. And women usually don't want to say anything because they don't want to get in a battle of "he said, she said" knowing it would bankrupt them.

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I think (after reading the accounts of a dozen women who have said that he's done it to THEM) that he's mental and believes he has a RIGHT to abuse women.- WISHY

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kpo: Watersportsgate.
WISHIMAY: ... Trump makes Obama look like a saint.

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People with vested interests lie, WISHY, and as far as I can tell the CIA, State Department, and the various neocon hangers-on all have a vested interest - maybe even an existential one - in keeping Trump from office or (failing that) driving him out or (failing that) making him ineffective.

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Just to remind you - you signed on to the fake news 'watersportsgate'.

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You piled unsupported assumption (he sniffs due to past drug use), on top of stupid conclusion (therefore he has brain damage), on top of unsupported assumption and redbaiting (we're socialists), on top of stupid conclusion (therefor we want a Russia-friendly admin), on top of strawman (we support Trump's behavior), on top of logical fallacy post hoc ergo propter hoc (his tweets show the instable nature of the man).

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Are you schizophrenic? I said nothing about it being 'proven false'. YOU did. "It hasn't been proven false." And then you repeated your words as if you were quoting me. "You keep saying "proven false"." Were you responding to the voices in your head as if they were me?

However BECAUSE YOU ARE SO OBVIOUSLY GULLIBLE

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When mere innuendo becomes fact. How about them bankers, rf? Did you know they're Jews?

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You mean a direct quote of a post of an article isn't enough of a reference?
Or are you just being a stupid dick?

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That's PERFECT. I printed it out and put it in the back window of my van!


And kiki, I'm done with you. You are officially too dense to even get the basics what I'm saying. I got bigger fish to fry.

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BOMBSHELL: Israeli Spies Reveal Trump’s Pee Party Is Just The Tip Of A Fast-Melting Iceberg

“The former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by “the head of an East European intelligence agency,” Wood says, explaining that he used an intermediary to check into things. A U.S. intelligence contact told him that there was “more than one” tape, and that video and audio of Trump’s exploits in Moscow and St. Petersberg do exist.

According to Israeli news publication Yedioth Ahronoth, their country’s spies have been warned by the United States against sharing information with the Trump administration until they can determine whether he has been compromised by Putin:

These fears, which began upon Trump’s election, grew stronger following a meeting held recently between Israeli and American intelligence officials (the date of the meeting is not mentioned to protect the sources of the report). During the meeting, according to the Israelis who participated in it, their American colleagues voiced despair over Trump’s election, as he often lashes out at the American intelligence community. The American officials also told the Israelis that the National Security Agency (NSA) had “highly credible information” that Russia’s intelligence agencies, the FSB and GRU, were responsible for hacking the Democratic Party (DNC) servers during the elections and leaking sensitive information to WikiLeaks, which hurt Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

The American officials further added that they believed Russia President Vladimir Putin had “leverages of pressure” over Trump – but did not elaborate. They were apparently referring to what was published Wednesday about embarrassing information collected by the Russian intelligence in a bid to blackmail the president-elect.

The Americans implied that their Israeli colleagues should “be careful” as of January 20, Trump’s inauguration date, when transferring intelligence information to the White House and to the National Security Council (NSC), which is subject to the president. According to the Israelis who were present in the meeting, the Americans recommended that until it is made clear that Trump is not inappropriately connected to Russia and is not being extorted – Israel should avoid revealing sensitive sources to administration officials for fear the information would reach the Iranians.
http://addictinginfo.org/2017/01/15...ty-is-just-the-tip-of-a-fast-mel
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According to Israeli news publication Yedioth Ahronoth, their country’s spies have been warned by the United States against sharing information with the Trump administration ...

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