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Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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I totally believe in EVERY woman's RIGHT to be as stupid as every man - like you and SOGGY. And - just like men - I think they should be held accountable for their stupid choices.
And demeaning whole categories of people you don't know, haven't talked with, and haven't discussed any reasons OR FACTS with - like women - is part of your right to be a sexist pig?

Hate must be your nature. You'll find any excuse to hate, individually and whole groups. No wonder you're so fucking clueless about why your thread went to troll country.


How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Rappy

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Yes, directed to you, and any woman who whines about how other women could vote for Trump.
That was 'G'. Get a clue.
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Originally posted by G:
Speaking of women. How any woman could vote for Trump is beyond me. Maybe they have an adolescent understanding of what being a woman is? Maybe being submissive and taking abuse is being a good woman in their minds?


How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Sunday, January 29, 2017 6:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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The fallacy of relative privation, or appeal to bigger problems, is an informal fallacy in which an opponent's arguments about issues are minimized, deemed unimportant, or dismissed on the grounds that more important topics and issues exist, regardless of whether these problems are relevant to the question at hand or not. The use of the fallacy has also been referred to as "whataboutery".


Agreed.

But...

You gotta wonder why Lefties are all over everyone in the entire world about how they treat their women EXCEPT the Muslims.

Somehow being Muslim gives you a free pass to do whatever.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 29, 2017 10:38 PM

SIGNYM

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Simply making sure Hillary didn't get into office is reason enough for most intelligent women in this country. I'm all for having a woman president, as I'm sure many of them are too. Hillary just wasn't the right one. She's a criminal and a liar, and I believe that many of the women who voted for Trump didn't want the first female president to be such an utterly horrible choice.- SIX
That, and she is a psychopathic war-mongering bitch. Other than that - she was great!






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Monday, January 30, 2017 1:18 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Also, brain-damaged.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, January 30, 2017 4:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah.... that part is actually really sad. :(

I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 30, 2017 5:11 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


She had strokes - blood clots in the brain. At the very least they admitted it affected her vision, which is why she had to wear those glasses with the funky lenses.

Strokes, brain infections, poor diet, too much drugging or drinking, vitamin B12 deficiency - they can all cause brain damage. It happens to lots of people every year. Nature is not necessarily our friend in all things. And she is not especially different from other aging people - just one among millions in this country alone.

But given her existing neurological problems and her tendency to develop blood clots, she really shouldn't have been running for president.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, January 30, 2017 10:29 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by 1kiki:

I just think it's funny that someone like 'G' who claims to care so much about women viscerally despises them so much, because, as women their thinking is unapproved - by 'G' of course.



I think it's astounding you post this about G, while deflecting and protecting Russia from scorn as they DO this to women. It shows your outrage at G to be disingenuous, and your lack of concern for the women of Russia shameful.

Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/

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Monday, January 30, 2017 11:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.


Sadly, this is the price to be paid when the SJW/Regressives have had their way for too long and take the pendulum to the extreme. What goes up, must come down.

Once you start calling everything rape, then nothing is rape anymore. It's like the Boy Who Cried Wolf or Chicken Little.

I feel bad for the women who are truly in abusive relationships that are going to have to be smacked around or worse a few times before anybody takes them seriously now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 30, 2017 12:22 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.



Once you start calling everything rape, then nothing is rape anymore. It's like the Boy Who Cried Wolf or Chicken Little.



Wow Jack, you are suggesting this is some how the result of women crying wolf. I spent years here not responding to your posts because of your ignorance on the topics you address. I am really, and I mean really sorry I started to respond to you.

No more Jack, no more

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Monday, January 30, 2017 1:10 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by G:
Um, huh? Where did I come even close to saying that? Are you confusing people yet again, granny?
If you're going to make such a wild claim cite a reference. At the very least stop huffing the liter box.
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Originally posted by G:
"Speaking of women. How any woman could vote for Trump is beyond me. Maybe they (women) have an adolescent understanding of what being a woman is? Maybe being submissive and taking abuse is being a good woman in their minds?"

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Originally posted by G:
Wait, I said I didn't understand how any woman could vote for Trump and from that you get I hate all women?


How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, January 30, 2017 1:20 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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Originally posted by G:
Um, huh? Where did I come even close to saying that? Are you confusing people yet again, granny?
If you're going to make such a wild claim cite a reference. At the very least stop huffing the liter box.
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Originally posted by G:
"Speaking of women. How any woman could vote for Trump is beyond me. Maybe they (women) have an adolescent understanding of what being a woman is? Maybe being submissive and taking abuse is being a good woman in their minds?"

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Originally posted by G:
Wait, I said I didn't understand how any woman could vote for Trump and from that you get I hate all women?





I think it's astounding you post this about G, while deflecting and protecting Russia from scorn as they DO this to women. It shows your outrage at G to be disingenuous, and your lack of concern for the women of Russia shameful.

Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/


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Monday, January 30, 2017 3:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Originally posted by G:
Um, huh? Where did I come even close to saying that? Are you confusing people yet again, granny?
If you're going to make such a wild claim cite a reference. At the very least stop huffing the liter box.
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Originally posted by G:
"Speaking of women. How any woman could vote for Trump is beyond me. Maybe they (women) have an adolescent understanding of what being a woman is? Maybe being submissive and taking abuse is being a good woman in their minds?"

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Originally posted by G:
Wait, I said I didn't understand how any woman could vote for Trump and from that you get I hate all women?


How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, January 30, 2017 3:29 PM

THGRRI


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I think it's astounding you post this about G, while deflecting and protecting Russia from scorn as they DO this to women.


She's locked up in repeat mode - happens every time she knows she has no argument. And clearly, she has no concern for Russian women, ANY of them. How do people get like her??


Yep and when she gets locked up, her posts in many instances become gigantic and angry. She is in a tough spot. Her beloved Russia just said it's ok to beat your wife. All she can do is point her finger at you and change the subject. She's fooling no one.

It also shows in her mind there is nothing Russia can do wrong. How could she protest so much about the rest of the world and not this, unless she is a Russia troll.

SHE G, she's a fucking women and she say's nothing about the fact that in Russia it just became legal to beat your wife. What a loser.

In the near future my response to whatever she complains about is going to be, "yeah but with you it's ok to beat your wife."





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Monday, January 30, 2017 5:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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Originally posted by G:
Um, huh? Where did I come even close to saying that? Are you confusing people yet again, granny?
If you're going to make such a wild claim cite a reference. At the very least stop huffing the liter box.
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Originally posted by G:
"Speaking of women. How any woman could vote for Trump is beyond me. Maybe they (women) have an adolescent understanding of what being a woman is? Maybe being submissive and taking abuse is being a good woman in their minds?"

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Originally posted by G:
Wait, I said I didn't understand how any woman could vote for Trump and from that you get I hate all women?
And that pretty much sums up 'G's attitude towards women - get in line with his dictates, or be called an adolescent, misguided masochist.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?


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Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Wow Jack, you are suggesting this is some how the result of women crying wolf. I spent years here not responding to your posts because of your ignorance on the topics you address. I am really, and I mean really sorry I started to respond to you.

No more Jack, no more


Nope. I'm saying it's the result of Leftist Regressives and their policies. I'm saying it's because we've practically gotten to the point that you need to have documents signed before you can have sex with a woman.

Call me ignorant. That's fine with me. But look around you. Things are changing. Your little SJW paradise is crumbling all around you.

It's the house that bullshit and backwards thinking built.

So I'll say it again.

I'm truly sorry for the women who are actually in abusive relationships that nobody is going to take seriously until something really bad happens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 31, 2017 7:22 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by 1kiki:

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Originally posted by G:
Um, huh? Where did I come even close to saying that? Are you confusing people yet again, granny?
If you're going to make such a wild claim cite a reference. At the very least stop huffing the liter box.
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Originally posted by G:
"Speaking of women. How any woman could vote for Trump is beyond me. Maybe they (women) have an adolescent understanding of what being a woman is? Maybe being submissive and taking abuse is being a good woman in their minds?"

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Originally posted by G:
Wait, I said I didn't understand how any woman could vote for Trump and from that you get I hate all women?
And that pretty much sums up 'G's attitude towards women - get in line with his dictates, or be called an adolescent, misguided masochist.



So 1kiki. Do you condemn what Russia did regarding domestic abuse in the courts?

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Tuesday, January 31, 2017 5:47 PM

THGRRI


So 1kiki and SIG. Do you condemn what Russia did regarding domestic abuse in the courts?


1kiki has sent you a message from FIREFLYFANS.NET.

The message is as follows:

Me

Are you so ignorant that you do not realize that your refusal over and over again to condemn what Russia did, is all the proof I need. And again, if there is a troll here it is Russian made..

1kiki

we'll see if Haken agrees with you.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2017 5:55 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Rappy

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Yes, directed to you, and any woman who whines about how other women could vote for Trump.
That was 'G'. Get a clue.
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Originally posted by G:
Speaking of women. How any woman could vote for Trump is beyond me. Maybe they have an adolescent understanding of what being a woman is? Maybe being submissive and taking abuse is being a good woman in their minds?




Try naming who you quote then. All I saw was your post, and the " " around the first paragraph, which weren't attributed to G. Thus the confusion.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Tuesday, January 31, 2017 11:21 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


THUGGER

I hope you realize that posting a private message without consent of all parties is illegal.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, February 1, 2017 10:34 AM

THGRRI


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THUGGER

I hope you realize that posting a private message without consent of all parties is illegal.



First; still no condemnation from you on Russia's war against women.

Second; how many private messages of Hilary's have you posted here? Again, you continue to make shit up as you go.

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Wednesday, February 1, 2017 4:20 PM

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You need to change your signature Jack. There is far to much evidence out their proving Trump mistreats women, some in his own words. You don't have a leg to stand on and it makes you look unreasonable. Stick with what you like about Trump and stop defending all the charges against him . Far to many are true.

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Jack's a full on 100% neo-Nazi racist pos.

Of course he hates women, because they all reject his hater ass.

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Wednesday, February 1, 2017 5:11 PM

THGRRI


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You need to change your signature Jack. There is far to much evidence out their proving Trump mistreats women, some in his own words. You don't have a leg to stand on and it makes you look unreasonable. Stick with what you like about Trump and stop defending all the charges against him . Far to many are true.

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Jack's a full on 100% neo-Nazi racist pos.

Of course he hates women, because they all reject his hater ass.


I ignored Jack for years here due to his posts. They were little more than alcohol induced rants completely void of logic. Briefly I gave in and conversed with him but it was a mistake. He can post what he wants but I won't respond. The reason I respond to SIG and 1kiki is because they are pushing Putin's agenda, and constantly undermining our democratic institutions.

They are Russian trolls. For the past year and a half I have tried to get them to criticize anything Putin has done. Not only have they yet to do so, but they spew obvious lies while defending him.

I am still waiting for SIG and 1kiki to condemn the war on women that's going on in Russia. The gutting of the domestic violence laws in the courts there.

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Thursday, February 2, 2017 4:36 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Jack's a full on 100% neo-Nazi racist pos.

Of course he hates women, because they all reject his hater ass.


Because I don't want Muslims here unless they've been thoroughly vetted?

Once again I'll point out that wanting to keep Muslims out of your country is just about as far from being anti-Semitic as you can possibly be, which is pretty much the number one requirement for being a Nazi.

If you want to go around calling people a Neo-Nazi, why don't you ask Obama why he didn't support the Jews in Israel on his way out the door.



And I don't get where anybody thinks I hate women. I said I feel sorry for those women who are truly going to be abused and won't get any help until it is too late in Russia now.

The SJW man-haters went around calling everything a sexual offense for so long that it lessened the the impact of the words to the extent where Russia seems to have just given up on it except in the most extreme cases.


There needs to be a balance, or else this cycle will just continue on forever. This is the pendulum swinging back fully the other way. I don't agree with this anymore than I agree with how they handle sex on college campuses here. What we've got is just a bunch of loonies on the fringes of both sides that scream the loudest running the show, and nothing good comes of that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, February 2, 2017 7:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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He can post what he wants but I won't respond.- THGUR


What did he do right to get such favored treatment from Your Trollishness? And how can I be in that class of favored netizens?

In any case, since you're an inveterate troll, I'll bet this promise lasts no longer than snow in Los Angeles. So let's see how long you can keep those nasty fingers from the keyboard!

heh heh heh



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Thursday, February 2, 2017 7:30 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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There needs to be a balance, or else this cycle will just continue on forever. This is the pendulum swinging back fully the other way. I don't agree with this anymore than I agree with how they handle sex on college campuses here. What we've got is just a bunch of loonies on the fringes of both sides that scream the loudest running the show, and nothing good comes of that. - SIX
Agreed. Although the pendulum as swung so far in the USA, it's going to take a looooooong swing back in the other direction!



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Thursday, February 2, 2017 8:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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There needs to be a balance, or else this cycle will just continue on forever. This is the pendulum swinging back fully the other way. I don't agree with this anymore than I agree with how they handle sex on college campuses here. What we've got is just a bunch of loonies on the fringes of both sides that scream the loudest running the show, and nothing good comes of that. - SIX
Agreed. Although the pendulum as swung so far in the USA, it's going to take a looooooong swing back in the other direction!



I don't think it really will take all that long. If you look around us, it is already happening concerning some of the issues, and rather quickly.

My fear about this is that every time the pendulum swings the other way, some of the worst things get left where they are and we end up with the worst of both sides in the long run.


For instance... we're never going to repeal non-smoking bans in bars once put in place, nor are we going to see the taxes lowered on them. I've resigned myself to that and won't even bother fighting it anymore. It's done. That's not my point here...

The point is, just as I said to non-smokers while it was happening, that they were next... whatever their particular vice was. Cook County, IL (perhaps the whole state) has passed legislation for a 6 cents per ounce tax on soda that just went into effect. This even includes on restaurants which is really going to hurt some of the ma and pop places out there.

What happened is that there is no more room for exploitation of smokers and the easy money the tax revenue generated with little meaningful opposition to it. They don't actually want people to quit smoking, otherwise there would be an outright ban on it. After tripling the price of cigarettes, they know that they can't raise it anymore otherwise there will be no tax revenue once people quit (or they make it so un-affordable that the possibility of a black market arises).

The state of Illinois, in particular Crook County, is so bankrupt that they always need to keep raising taxes somewhere. Soda tax is not going to be as easy to institute as a cigarette tax was, but it is the path of least resistance. Everybody knows that it's essentially liquid candy and offers no nutritional value, while it is linked to diseases such as diabetes. The only reason they will get more resistance is that more people drink soda than smoke, and nobody gets sick from second hand soda consumption.

I don't believe that a "Trump America" will involve curbing cash grabs like this by our government at all.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, February 2, 2017 8:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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how many private messages of Hilary's have you posted here? Again, you continue to make shit up as you go.


Those were no longer private once they were released to the public.


I don't think anything you posted that was private was particularly damning THGRRI, but I would caution you to think about what you're doing while posting private messages in a public forum. I'm no lawyer, but I'd imagine you could get yourself into some trouble you don't want by posting the wrong thing by the wrong person.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, February 2, 2017 8:26 AM

THGRRI


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He can post what he wants but I won't respond.- THGUR


What did he do right to get such favored treatment from Your Trollishness? And how can I be in that class of favored netizens?

In any case, since you're an inveterate troll, I'll bet this promise lasts no longer than snow in Los Angeles. So let's see how long you can keep those nasty fingers from the keyboard!

heh heh heh



He may be far right but he has no agenda; that's good. He just reminds me of an Archie Bunker type and I don't wish to have to explain things to someone exibiting that level of ignorance.

You are trolling an anti democratic agenda. I would also remind all that STILL, there is no condemnation of Russia's dismantling of the domestic violence laws leaving women very vulnerable. You and 1kiki are a disgrace to your gender.

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Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm not far right on almost everything. On most social issues I am to the left of center. I lean more to the right when it comes to money.

Care to explain yourself?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 3, 2017 12:44 PM

THGRRI


Still waiting for SIG and 1kiki to condemn Russia's actions.

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Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/

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Sunday, February 5, 2017 12:10 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


THUGGER
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Still waiting for SIG and 1kiki to condemn Russia's actions.
Well, since Sig replied a long time ago, and you're STILL waiting, I'd count that as you making a big dumbass of yourself. But I guess that isn't the first time you've heard that.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting to care about whatever it is you want from me.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Sunday, February 5, 2017 2:33 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Still waiting for SIG and 1kiki to condemn Russia's actions.
I already expressed my opinion. Look on page 1.



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Sunday, February 5, 2017 8:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Did anybody ACTUALLY read this article?

I finally got around to it now, and I have to say that except for a tiny quote at the end, I don't see what the problem is. In fact, I think what Putin himself had to say about it actually goes against some of the claims of what a fascist he is.

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Asked about the domestic violence law at a news conference last month, Putin said that while he was not a supporter of parents smacking children, the authorities should not interfere in family affairs without justification.

"We cannot go crazy here. It's harmful, at the end of the day it destroys the family," he said. "Cavalier meddling with the family is not acceptable."


No. That doesn't sound like a leader who is looking for any and every reason to have his jackboot thugs knock down your door to see what you're up to.

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The amendment, which passed parliament's lower house on a preliminary first reading, would reduce battery of a relative to a civil offence instead of a criminal offence in first instances, when the victim suffered no serious harm.

One of the authors of the proposed change, Olga Batalina, a member of parliament from Putin's United Russia party, said society wanted to protect parents' right to discipline children.

"Do we think it's right to give a two year prison term to a single mother who, while raising her teenage son, physically punishes him for stealing or running away?" Batalina asked in an interview with Reuters.


Two things to note here. The author of the proposal is a Woman. Second is they are talking about a parents right to discipline unruly children. The example used is that of a single mother going to prison for two years for disciplining her brat.

We continue...

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Supporters of the amendment say anyone who inflicts serious physical harm will still be criminally liable.


Doesn't sound like anything is changing. If you beat somebody, you're still going to prison for it.

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Each year, about 14,000 women die in Russia at the hands of husbands or other relatives, according to a 2010 United Nations report.

She said that if it goes unchecked, low-level domestic violence, of the kind that would be decriminalized under the amendment, often escalates into attacks causing serious injury.


Well, that's just it. It hasn't gone unchecked. And yet 14,000 women die each year at the hands of their abusive husbands or other relatives.

What this law has done, however, has allowed the government to come inside of people's houses for disciplining their children. We're talking about swats on the ass and such. Not actual physical abuse.

I think what they're doing here is right. But at the same time they should have brutally harsh penalties for ACTUAL abuse. ESPECIALLY for those responsible for murdering their wives. Eye for an Eye, perhaps? Watch how quickly those numbers would shrink if a potential murderer really thought twice about what they were about to do when faced with the realization they were signing their own death warrant.

I'd agree with rules like that here in the states as well. Hitting a woman make you feel like a man? Let's see how you like it when we let this bouncer let out some of his frustrations on your face for a few minutes.



So what part of this article did I have a problem with? This quote right here:

Quote:
Last month the justice ministry placed [Marina Pisklakova-Parker's] organization on a register of "foreign agents", a designation that makes it subject to extra scrutiny from the authorities and can make it harder to raise money.


I likely would not agree with much of what she has to say, or the agendas she is trying to push, but I'd fight for her right to be able to say it. Not only do I have a problem with government censorship, but the thought that they now consider her a "foreign agent" is just creepy and Orwellian to me.

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Sunday, February 5, 2017 9:00 AM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Still waiting for SIG and 1kiki to condemn Russia's actions.
I already expressed my opinion. Look on page 1.



Yeah that's funny. You went back and added a comment to an old post. If you look at the last post on page one, you'll see I responded to the post you speak of. I am still trying to get you to give your opinion.

At least you finally admit that the law is bad. It was like pulling teeth to get you to this point. Now lets see 1kiki condemns the law.

1kiki????

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Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/

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Sunday, February 5, 2017 9:35 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
At least you finally admit that the law is bad.


The law is bad. They're getting rid of it.

[EDITED TO ADD]

This thread, and the article itself, is an example of people letting their own political beliefs and agendas change the narrative.

THGRRI has taken now to finishing every post in here with "Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence" when this is not what happened. Domestic violence has not been decriminalized in Russia, nor does anything in this article suggest that it will be in the future. The article even states that anyone who does visible physical harm will still be punished criminally.


The article brings up something completely unrelated that was designed to further trigger people like THGRRI when they said this:

Quote:
In his 17 years as Russia's leader, Putin has overseen an embrace of the socially-conservative Russian Orthodox church and a rejection of many liberal ideas as an attempt by the West to impose its values on Russia. One example was a 2013 law making it illegal to promote homosexuality to children.


It's subtle, but that is mental manipulation in writing right there. It had no place in this article and could easily have been an article of its own for debate.


Stop saying that Russia is decriminalizing spousal abuse THGRRI. Unless you have other evidence aside from this article that this is or has happened, you are lying if you continue to say it.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2017 11:20 AM

THGRRI


1kiki??????

Do you condemn Russia for doing this.

____________________________________________
Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decri
miinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/

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Saturday, February 11, 2017 1:34 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I hope you realize that the more you try and bully me into answering, the more fun it is to refuse.

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Saturday, February 11, 2017 9:00 AM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I hope you realize that the more you try and bully me into answering, the more fun it is to refuse.


Everyone here is well aware that you never post anything negative about Russia. It took SIG forever to comment on the law. Finally she did it by editing an old post to make it look like she commented right away. She added a condemnation of the law, sort of. That was funny.

No 1kiki, my asking again and again was not so you would be forced to do it. It was to prove my point yet again. You and SIG never condemn anything Russia does because you are trolling on their behalf. No American would ever defend all Russia does as you two do. Unless they are pure trolls. All of this back and forth proves the point comrade. You're not in this for the honest debate but instead, well, I think you're sick in some way.



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Saturday, February 11, 2017 12:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Good on ya, KIKI! Keep on refusing. THUGR is a bully and a troll. And a liar.



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Saturday, February 11, 2017 3:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Once again, I would ask that people actually read the article.

Putin was asked about it, and quoted in the article, but other than that he had nothing to do with this.

The proposal was authored by a woman who was also quoted in the article.

Actual physical abuse with markings is still a criminal offense.

This information is all in the article. It was presented as something that it wasn't.

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Saturday, February 11, 2017 3:44 PM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Good on ya, KIKI! Keep on refusing. THUGR is a bully and a troll. And a liar.



Ah, that hurts.

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Saturday, February 11, 2017 4:22 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


THUGR, son, I think SIX is pointing out that you've mis-represented the event about 20 times by now. Since it's been pointed out to you more than once already, isn't this just another example of you ... er .... what's that word again ... lying?



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Sunday, February 12, 2017 10:03 AM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, son, I think SIX is pointing out that you've mis-represented the event about 20 times by now. Since it's been pointed out to you more than once already, isn't this just another example of you ... er .... what's that word again ... lying?



Nope, six is incorrect. Six is representing the spin that has been put forth by Russia to explain why they gutted the domestic violence laws. Not the damage it does when it comes to protecting women.

So, by this post you have changed your mind and are now for the changes to the law's regarding domestic violence in Russia. Is that so SIG?

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Sunday, February 12, 2017 12:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, son, I think SIX is pointing out that you've mis-represented the event about 20 times by now. Since it's been pointed out to you more than once already, isn't this just another example of you ... er .... what's that word again ... lying?



Nope, six is incorrect. Six is representing the spin that has been put forth by Russia to explain why they gutted the domestic violence laws. Not the damage it does when it comes to protecting women.

So, by this post you have changed your mind and are now for the changes to the law's regarding domestic violence in Russia. Is that so SIG?
My god, you're an ass.




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Sunday, February 12, 2017 1:04 PM

THGRRI


Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:


So, by this post you have changed your mind and are now for the changes to the law's regarding domestic violence in Russia. Is that so SIG?
Quote:
My god, you're an ass.



You're the one who condemned the changing of the domestic violence laws, sort of. And you're the one who suggests six is right when he says the changing of law is misunderstood and not bad.

Who's the ass? Who's trying to have it both ways and who is once again being subjective.

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Sunday, February 12, 2017 1:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
So, by this post you have changed your mind and are now for the changes to the law's regarding domestic violence in Russia. Is that so SIG?- STOOPID

My god, you're an ass. - SIGNY

You're the one who condemned the changing of the domestic violence laws, sort of.- STOOPID
I did not "condemn."

Quote:
And you're the one who suggests six is right when he says the changing of law is misunderstood and not bad.-SIX
As far as I can tell, what SIX is objecting to is YOUR CHARACTERIZATION of the event- that "Vladimir Putin proposes.."

It's right in your title (unless you post-edit your title).

Quote:
Who's the ass?-STOOPID
You are, clearly.

You've managed to consistently misrepresent not only the event, but also what I, KIKI, and SIX have said about it. Many times. Despite having been corrected. Many times. Either you're incredibly stupid, a person who is incapable of understanding the simplest statements, or you're a deliberate liar.



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Sunday, February 12, 2017 1:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Nope, six is incorrect. Six is representing the spin that has been put forth by Russia to explain why they gutted the domestic violence laws. Not the damage it does when it comes to protecting women.

So, by this post you have changed your mind and are now for the changes to the law's regarding domestic violence in Russia. Is that so SIG?


They didn't gut existing domestic violence laws. That was a spin slightly suggested in the article and wildly blown out of proportion by your thread title and your subsequent posting.

Any physical abuse that leads to visible marks is still subject to criminal charges. The law is being changed because it got to the point that you couldn't even discipline your own children without having jackboot thugs come in your home.



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Sunday, February 12, 2017 2:13 PM

THGRRI


Ok SIG. I see once again you are posting quotes that you have edited so there's nothing more to say. Except, get a hold of yourself.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
So, by this post you have changed your mind and are now for the changes to the law's regarding domestic violence in Russia. Is that so SIG?- STOOPID

My god, you're an ass. - SIGNY

You're the one who condemned the changing of the domestic violence laws, sort of.- STOOPID
I did not "condemn."

Quote:
And you're the one who suggests six is right when he says the changing of law is misunderstood and not bad.-SIX
As far as I can tell, what SIX is objecting to is YOUR CHARACTERIZATION of the event- that "Vladimir Putin proposes.."

It's right in your title (unless you post-edit your title).

Quote:
Who's the ass?-STOOPID
You are, clearly.

You've managed to consistently misrepresent not only the event, but also what I, KIKI, and SIX have said about it. Many times. Despite having been corrected. Many times. Either you're incredibly stupid, a person who is incapable of understanding the simplest statements, or you're a deliberate liar.



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Sunday, February 12, 2017 2:19 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
Ok SIG. I see once again you are posting quotes that you have edited so there's nothing more to say. Except, get a hold of yourself. -THUGR
Is this ANOTHER baseless accusation?? (See above^^^^ about the "years of threads")

Son, tell us all - me too! - what I post-edited. I really don't know what you're posting about.



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