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Nope, six is incorrect. Six is representing the spin that has been put forth by Russia to explain why they gutted the domestic violence laws. Not the damage it does when it comes to protecting women.

So, by this post you have changed your mind and are now for the changes to the law's regarding domestic violence in Russia. Is that so SIG?

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They didn't gut existing domestic violence laws. That was a spin slightly suggested in the article and wildly blown out of proportion by your thread title and your subsequent posting.

Any physical abuse that leads to visible marks is still subject to criminal charges. The law is being changed because it got to the point that you couldn't even discipline your own children without having jackboot thugs come in your home.



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Ok SIG. I see once again you are posting quotes that you have edited so there's nothing more to say. Except, get a hold of yourself. -THUGR

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Is this ANOTHER baseless accusation?? (See above^^^^ about the "years of threads")

Son, tell us all - me too! - what I post-edited. I really don't know what you're posting about.

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The proof is there to see SIG. You added words to mine that I never said.- THUGR

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The proof is there to see SIG. You added words to mine that I never said.- THUGR

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WHICH words to WHICH words? Just quote the post that you think I edited, because I STILL have no idea what you're talking about.

But yanno, it occurred to me that YOU post-edited your post, and then accused me of misquoting you.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, I guess I caught THUGR in another LIE. Again!

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sorry Jack, I defer to the women who are speaking up about this. Not people who comment as you do that women are now calling everything rape. I also call to question your state of reality after you defended Trump. Even though many of his discretions towards women are caught on tape. No Jack, when it comes to the topic of women, I think you are clueless.

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First, so everyone out there knows. Who is saying what and all the STOOPIDS accompanying my statements are not anything I said as it implies. That's you adding it in a way that suggests I said it.

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THUGR is an alright kind of guy. A real stand-up person who defends what he believes in. - SIGNY

Well, that was mighty kind of you, SIGNY. Thank you for the kind words!-THUGR

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That's you adding it (STOOPID) in a way that suggests I said it.

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Is that so SIG?- STOOPID

My god, you're an ass. - SIGNY

You're the one who condemned the changing of the domestic violence laws, sort of.- STOOPID

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sorry Jack, I defer to the women who are speaking up about this. Not people who comment as you do that women are now calling everything rape. I also call to question your state of reality after you defended Trump. Even though many of his discretions towards women are caught on tape. No Jack, when it comes to the topic of women, I think you are clueless.

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This has nothing to do with how I view anything. This is about facts stated in the article. I think the biggest 2 facts are that a Woman authored the proposal, and they were talking about defending a single mother from going to prison for disciplining their unruly children.

Also a fact is that Vladmir Putin, at least according to this article, had nothing to do with the proposal. He was asked about it and then quoted on his response.

And lastly, any abuse that leads to markings is still a criminal offence.

Nothing that you claimed the article said was actually said in the article.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

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That's you adding it (STOOPID) in a way that suggests I said it.

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Not really, dimbulb. It clearly is a conversation with poster identification attached to the end of the statements, like so:

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Is that so SIG?- STOOPID

My god, you're an ass. - SIGNY

You're the one who condemned the changing of the domestic violence laws, sort of.- STOOPID

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But I guess you figured that out, sort of, because NOW you're saying Signy didn't alter YOUR TEXT and misrepresent it, but added something, that, to the really asinine, might IMPLY you posted something.
You might be an exception THUGGER, but most people aren't nearly that dull.

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
You keep citing an article but post no quotes from it. If you wish to make your point, do this and post a link as well Jack.

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Asked about the domestic violence law at a news conference last month, Putin said that while he was not a supporter of parents smacking children, the authorities should not interfere in family affairs without justification.

"We cannot go crazy here. It's harmful, at the end of the day it destroys the family," he said. "Cavalier meddling with the family is not acceptable."

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The amendment, which passed parliament's lower house on a preliminary first reading, would reduce battery of a relative to a civil offence instead of a criminal offence in first instances, when the victim suffered no serious harm.

One of the authors of the proposed change, Olga Batalina, a member of parliament from Putin's United Russia party, said society wanted to protect parents' right to discipline children.

"Do we think it's right to give a two year prison term to a single mother who, while raising her teenage son, physically punishes him for stealing or running away?" Batalina asked in an interview with Reuters.

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Supporters of the amendment say anyone who inflicts serious physical harm will still be criminally liable.

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Each year, about 14,000 women die in Russia at the hands of husbands or other relatives, according to a 2010 United Nations report.

She said that if it goes unchecked, low-level domestic violence, of the kind that would be decriminalized under the amendment, often escalates into attacks causing serious injury.

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Last month the justice ministry placed [Marina Pisklakova-Parker's] organization on a register of "foreign agents", a designation that makes it subject to extra scrutiny from the authorities and can make it harder to raise money.

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Shit Jack, the first thing you do in your post above is take the word of Putin. That alone shows you have terrible judgement. Secondly, your logic always leaves women in the lurch. Your many posts here in real world have extensively documented that. Below are quotes from the article. You take the side of Putin. I take the side of Marina Parker.

The amendment, which passed parliament's lower house on a preliminary first reading, would reduce battery of a relative to a civil offence instead of a criminal offence

"This law calls for the exoneration of tyrants in the home," said Maria Mokhova, Executive Director of the "Sisters" crisis center for abuse victims. The message is: "Let's not punish a person who at home beat up his family, just because he has the right to do that," she told Reuters.

Marina Pisklakova-Parker, director of the "Anna" center, which also helps abuse victims, said last year her staff received more than 21,000 requests for help from women who said they had been subject to domestic violence.

She said that if it goes unchecked, low-level domestic violence, of the kind that would be decriminalized under the amendment, often escalates into attacks causing serious injury.

Last month the justice ministry placed her organization on a register of "foreign agents", a designation that makes it subject to extra scrutiny from the authorities and can make it harder to raise money.

Each year, about 14,000 women die in Russia at the hands of husbands or other relatives, according to a 2010 United Nations report.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I didn't take the word of Putin. I took what was said in the article. According to this article, he was asked about it after the fact. This means the title of this thread is incorrect. Maybe you have another article that I haven't read that says that Putin proposed this?


You obviously did not read anything else from my post beyond the first point before posting back. I'm not leaving women in the lurch. Read it again and get back to me.

You have a habit of reading only what YOU want to read and hyper focusing on that.

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Shit Jack, the first thing you do in your post above is take the word of Putin. That alone shows you have terrible judgement. Secondly, your logic always leaves women in the lurch. Your many posts here in real world have extensively documented that. Below are quotes from the article. You take the side of Putin. I take the side of Marina Parker.

The amendment, which passed parliament's lower house on a preliminary first reading, would reduce battery of a relative to a civil offence instead of a criminal offence

"This law calls for the exoneration of tyrants in the home," said Maria Mokhova, Executive Director of the "Sisters" crisis center for abuse victims. The message is: "Let's not punish a person who at home beat up his family, just because he has the right to do that," she told Reuters.

Marina Pisklakova-Parker, director of the "Anna" center, which also helps abuse victims, said last year her staff received more than 21,000 requests for help from women who said they had been subject to domestic violence.

She said that if it goes unchecked, low-level domestic violence, of the kind that would be decriminalized under the amendment, often escalates into attacks causing serious injury.

Last month the justice ministry placed her organization on a register of "foreign agents", a designation that makes it subject to extra scrutiny from the authorities and can make it harder to raise money.

Each year, about 14,000 women die in Russia at the hands of husbands or other relatives, according to a 2010 United Nations report.

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You cite Putin as a leader who seems to be doing this to help his country. Based on what he says.

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Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.

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Sadly, this is the price to be paid when the SJW/Regressives have had their way for too long and take the pendulum to the extreme. What goes up, must come down.

Once you start calling everything rape, then nothing is rape anymore. It's like the Boy Who Cried Wolf or Chicken Little.

I feel bad for the women who are truly in abusive relationships that are going to have to be smacked around or worse a few times before anybody takes them seriously now.

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Wow Jack, you are suggesting this is some how the result of women crying wolf. I spent years here not responding to your posts because of your ignorance on the topics you address. I am really, and I mean really sorry I started to respond to you.

No more Jack, no more

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Nope. I'm saying it's the result of Leftist Regressives and their policies. I'm saying it's because we've practically gotten to the point that you need to have documents signed before you can have sex with a woman.

Call me ignorant. That's fine with me. But look around you. Things are changing. Your little SJW paradise is crumbling all around you.

It's the house that bullshit and backwards thinking built.

So I'll say it again.

I'm truly sorry for the women who are actually in abusive relationships that nobody is going to take seriously until something really bad happens.

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These administrators hand out condoms and invite students to lectures by professional dominatrixes, while at the same time holding secret tribunals to punish men who engage in what can best be described as regrettable drunken hookups with their female classmates.

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Trump and Putin get along well because they both have an adolescent understanding of masculinity. In their world beating your wife is being a strong, proper husband.

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You're an SJW cuck.

There's never even been any allegations of Trump beating any of his wives.

If Trump loved subjugating women, he'd LOVE Islam.

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Originally posted by REAVERFAN:
I'm an anti-fascist.

Do you know what we do to fascists? Looks like you'll find out, Nazi boy.

That is, if you ever get your drunk ass out of the house.

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Why College Guys Should Be Terrified of Campus Hookups...

http://nypost.com/2017/02/11/why-college-guys-should-be-terrified-of-c
ampus-hookups/

Written by a Woman, at the New York Post of all places......

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Don't give me any bullshit about not being a friend to women. It's SJWs and the regressive left and their insane points of view that I have a problem with, whether they are male or female.

My point was that when you take a good thing and put it to a ridiculous extreme, eventually you ruin the whole damn thing.

I stand by everything I said in both of those quotes. You're more than welcome to your opinion about me because of them, and I will reserve my right to believe that you are part of one of the largest problems our country faces today.






Once again though, you deflect from the topic at hand.

At first I thought you suffered from ADD or Asperger's or something, but now I'm really starting to believe that you just lack a grasp of basic reading comprehension.

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https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/182369.pdf

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In recent years, politicians led by President Obama and prominent senators and governors have teamed with extremists on campus to portray our nation’s campuses as awash in a violent crime wave—and to suggest (preposterously) that university leaders, professors, and students are indifferent to female sexual assault victims in their midst. Neither of these claims has any bearing in reality. But they have achieved widespread acceptance, thanks in part to misleading alarums from the Obama administration and biased media coverage led by the New York Times.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR's biggest problem is that he's a troll. I'm going to give you the same advice that you gave to me about SECOND: You're just giving him what he wants- an audience.

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So we're just going to continue to veer off topic then. No surprises since I caught you dead to rights on the incorrect title of this thread.

https://www.amazon.com/Campus-Rape-Frenzy-America%C2%92s-Universities/
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In recent years, politicians led by President Obama and prominent senators and governors have teamed with extremists on campus to portray our nation’s campuses as awash in a violent crime wave—and to suggest (preposterously) that university leaders, professors, and students are indifferent to female sexual assault victims in their midst. Neither of these claims has any bearing in reality. But they have achieved widespread acceptance, thanks in part to misleading alarums from the Obama administration and biased media coverage led by the New York Times.

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If you can pay attention long enough to finish it, maybe we can start a book club.

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THUGR's biggest problem is that he's a troll. I'm going to give you the same advice that you gave to me about SECOND: You're just giving him what he wants- an audience. - SIGNY

Second is just an extremely unlikable person that just loves to listen to herself spew her elitist bile from atop her ivory tower. You may feel that way about THGGRI, but I don't.- SIX

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I'm a bad, bad, bad, bad person.



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I give you a link to a government study on the subject. It has researched the issue from every angle. Facts substantiated by facts. You counter with a book written by a guy who says the problem really doesn't exist.

I showed by your own posts your opinions dismiss the burdens women confront when dealing with men. This thread started with you defending Trump and his contempt for, and prejudicial behavior against women. If you can't recognize misogyny when it's that blatant, then you can't see it for what it is at all. Especially when you are like that yourself. Why do I say that? Because you never take the side of the women who are the victims. Good luck with your sobriety. And remember, it takes a long time for the fog to lift. I hope you get there.

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I'm a bad, bad, bad, bad person.



I giggled a little.- KIKI

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I think the biggest problem with "young women today" is that they've been convinced that getting drunk and having meaningless sex is "liberating". And women have sex because guys want it, not because they want it. Women need to be educated to understand their own interests ... as in, literally, what they're interested in. If they figure out that getting drunk or high puts them in a position of victimization, that might help considerably. Also, taking appropriate measures, such as living with a female roommate. Drunk, young, entitled men in groups- especially fraternities- can be pigs.

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You won't get any argument from me about frat guys being assholes. I never went to college, but dated a few college girls and spent enough weekends partying there that people thought I actually went to the school. I couldn't stand the frat guys and their bro mentality. I only went to a few of the frat parties. The only reason I was even allowed to be there was because they wanted my girlfriend. They managed to behave themselves, but it was obvious that I was not welcome.

Asshole doesn't equal rapist though. If a guy isn't a) drugging a girl, b) forcibly having sex with a girl against her will, or c) having sex with a girl who is passed out, then it's not rape. Period.

You're at least 18 or 19. You're a big girl now. If you're mature enough to make the mistake of getting wasted to the point where having sex is a good idea. You're mature enough to deal with the consequences of those actions.


I'd like to see a statistic of how many girls that don't get drunk at college get "raped". My guess is 0%.

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It's amazing how your misogynistic thinking blocks you from realizing what I am talking about. It is when a violation of a women does occur. Which happens at an alarming rate. And that women are victimized again when reporting it. Due, to a lack of support from the institution. No one but you are arguing about times when an attack does not occur. And that makes no sense. It's just subjective crap.

Unless you are claiming most women are lying when they make a claim that a violation has occurred. Is that what you are saying Jack?

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It's amazing how your misogynistic thinking blocks you from realizing what I am talking about. It is when a violation of a women does occur. Which happens at an alarming rate. And that women are victimized again when reporting it. Due, to a lack of support from the institution. No one but you are arguing about times when an attack does not occur. And that makes no sense. It's just subjective crap.

Unless you are claiming most women are lying when they make a claim that a violation has occurred. Is that what you are saying Jack?

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LOL... there you are again using a Hillary Clinton word. I'm not a misogynist, and saying it over and over again isn't going to change that. I love my mom. I talk to my grandmother nearly every day. I used to talk to both of them as much until one of them passed away last year. There is nobody in the world I love more than my niece. I was brutally beaten and literally stabbed in the back by 4 men defending a woman's honor once.

And yes, I do believe that there are a lot of women that are making illegitimate claims on college campuses. They are all but told to do it. One of my exes had a drunk hookup at a party with this guy I knew and called me the day after saying "I think I was raped". No, you weren't raped. You were hanging all over him all night and you willingly went into his bedroom and closed the door behind you. If you have to think that hard about whether you were raped or not, chances are pretty likely it wasn't rape.

What I take issue with, particularly on college campuses, is how when both sexes are getting drunk (and anyone under the age of 21 is actually breaking a law right there), it has become this idea that the male drunk is a predator and the female drunk has zero responsibility for her actions.

Then, god forbid she get pregnant, she has 100% absolute control of the situation. She can get an abortion whether he wants to or not. Or she can have the baby and make him pay child support for the next 18 years. She doesn't even ever have to talk to him again. She can just avoid him until the court date.



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What I take issue with, particularly on college campuses, is how when both sexes are getting drunk (and anyone under the age of 21 is actually breaking a law right there), it has become this idea that the male drunk is a predator and the female drunk has zero responsibility for her actions.

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Getting drunk and having sex - oops. Being passed out and someone having sex with your body - that's rape. Being drugged and someone having sex with your body - that's rape. Generally, a woman is probably going to find it difficult to rape a man who's passed out, or stuporous. And generally, women aren't interested in being perpetrators. OTOH it's pretty easy for a man to rape a woman who's passed out, or stuporous. And generally men are more interested in being perpetrators, and more likely to find it acceptable.

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Getting drunk and having sex - oops. Being passed out and someone having sex with your body - that's rape. Being drugged and someone having sex with your body - that's rape. Generally, a woman is probably going to find it difficult to rape a man who's passed out, or stuporous. And generally, women aren't interested in being perpetrators. OTOH it's pretty easy for a man to rape a woman who's passed out, or stuporous. And generally men are more interested in being perpetrators, and more likely to find it acceptable.

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We agree on what the definition of rape is. Good.

My brother was raped at a party. Almost nobody takes him seriously about that. He woke up to find a girl he had no interest in giving him a blowjob. It was a friend and roomate of one of his female friends. The police officer flat out laughed at him when he went to report it and said that "men can't get raped".

He said he expected as much from the police but what really hurt happened a few years later. He and his wife were throwing a baby shower at their house for the female friend. She actually asked him if it was okay if he invited the rapist over. She immediately said "oh my god, i'm so sorry" when he pointed that out. She agrees with him that it was rape... that's not the part that hurt him. What hurt was that's where we are at in society. If it was a female friend of hers that was raped by a guy she never would have asked if the guy could come to the party. Because it was a female rapist and a male victim it completely slipped her mind.

Being a victim of rape, he complains, and rightfully so, that movies and other entertainment are a big contributor to this mindset. He says that any movie where a woman is raped is a dark movie, where it happens quite a bit to men in rom-coms and it's always viewed as something to laugh about.


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lol...

You have way too much free time on your hands.

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Russia decriminalized domestic violence. What happened next is wrenching

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