Quote:

---

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Demoralize, destablize, push to crisis and normalize.
Soviet agent Yuri Bezmenov talks about the communist plan to destroy America
Full interview

---

Quote:

---

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

That's just crazy talk. Didn't the Democrats esplain to you that the communists are our saviors? Just like, last week or last month, or, well, before Trump defeated Hilliary?

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Does that mean ...
We out-muscle them,
But they can easily outsmart us?

Ook-ook :(

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Does that mean ...
We out-muscle them,
But they can easily outsmart us?

Ook-ook :(



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

---

Quote:

---

dreamtrove

Oon, I suspect that's true, in part because we don't focus on smart. We idolize the simple (typical american movie hero, lots of muscle, not a lot of smart.) End result, they beat us in chess.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by THGRRI:
We could if we had the will, create a cyber warfare budget that would match what the Russians run their entire country on.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

DreamTrove: "End result, they beat us in chess."

Good point. & It's less expensive that way.

Couldn't we just encourage, train, elect
all our brilliant kids like Joss Waitzkin ...
Then put them in charge?

("Searching for Bobby Fischer" 1993)


... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

DreamTrove: "End result, they beat us in chess."

Good point. & It's less expensive that way.

Couldn't we just encourage, train, elect
all our brilliant kids like Joss Waitzkin ...
Then put them in charge?

("Searching for Bobby Fischer" 1993)

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
"Mensa is the largest and oldest high IQ society in the world. It is a
non-profit organization open to people who score at the 98th percentile
or higher on a standardized, supervised IQ or other approved intelligence
test ... Roland Berrill and Dr. Lancelot Ware ... had the idea of forming
a society for very intelligent people, the only qualification for member-
ship being a high IQ. It was to be non-political and free from all other
social distinctions (racial, religious, etc.)."

Yeah ... just lifted the above from Wikipedia.
I haven't thought about Mensa in years.

Remembering it now ... the sort of personality & political popularity
that gets one elected ... is a different kind of intelligence.
Social intelligence doesn't show up on an IQ test. ... That was a silly
suggestion I made.

Social intelligence that fosters leadership may include a practical
grasp of the needs of society. Or not.



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
These might be a bit more clear:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1353130/Lancelot-Ware.html
The original intention was that Mensa should become a panel of the intellectually gifted which could be consulted by governments. However, as governments showed no enthusiasm for consulting Mensa (whose members' opinions, when voiced, tended to come from the far Right), the organisation became better known as a social forum for people who scored more than 148 points in the society's IQ tests, and its convocations thought of (more vulgarly) as "the place where eggheads go to get laid".

https://www.mamensa.org/about/history-mensa-international/
Mensa started in its usual way, a mix of wacky and wonderful. The British founders were Roland Berrill, an Australian-English eccentric, and Lancelot Lionel Ware, a brilliant biologist-barrister. They met on a train from Cambridge to London and agreed that there should be a society for people with high IQ’s. Its original purpose was to be a think tank.

The 2 Founders were Barristers in England, which may translate to English as Lawyers.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Oh, ok. Thanks. I was wondering. It did seem like a good parallel to us at this point in time.

My only comment is that the Russian expats today think the US is scary propagandized. Their observation is that people in the USSR/ Russia used to privately laugh at their government propaganda. But that Americans eat up the US propaganda with gusto, and never a second thought, or moment of puzzlement.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Oh, ok. Thanks. I was wondering. It did seem like a good parallel to us at this point in time.

My only comment is that the Russian expats today think the US is scary propagandized. Their observation is that people in the USSR/ Russia used to privately laugh at their government propaganda. But that Americans eat up the US propaganda with gusto, and never a second thought, or moment of puzzlement.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Hunh?

eta: I GUESS what you're trying to say is that so-called 'smart'phones are a medium for propaganda?

---