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Boy! Are you guys thick.


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...And if you clap real LOUD and believe with all your might, you can save Tinkerbell!


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Are you sarcastically admitting defeat, Trump was right all along, and your Libtard MSM was lying the whole time to you?

Or are you attempting to use sarcasm to maintain your denial denial denial?

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Boy! Are you guys thick.


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...And if you clap real LOUD and believe with all your might, you can save Tinkerbell!


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Are you sarcastically admitting defeat, Trump was right all along, and your Libtard MSM was lying the whole time to you?

Or are you attempting to use sarcasm to maintain your denial denial denial?

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Confirmed: Susan Rice "Unmasked" Trump Team

Until this morning, the Cernovich report was unconfirmed, with many in the "legacy media" accusing Cernovich, who recently was profiled on 60 Minutes for being a prominent member of the "fake news" dissemination team for being - what else - fake news. However, moments ago Bloomberg's Eli Lake confirmed that it was indeed Susan Rice who was responsible for the repeatedly "unmasking" multiple members of the Trump team, in what may be dubbed yet another "conspiracy" to delegitimize the current US president.

From Eli Lake:

White House lawyers last month learned that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

The pattern of Rice's requests was discovered in a National Security Council review of the government's policy on "unmasking" the identities of individuals in the U.S. who are not targets of electronic eavesdropping, but whose communications are collected incidentally. Normally those names are redacted from summaries of monitored conversations and appear in reports as something like "U.S. Person One."

As Lake adds, the National Security Council's senior director for intelligence, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, was conducting the review, according to two U.S. officials who spoke with Bloomberg View on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly. In February Cohen-Watnick discovered Rice's multiple requests to unmask U.S. persons in intelligence reports that related to Trump transition activities. He brought this to the attention of the White House General Counsel's office, who reviewed more of Rice's requests and instructed him to end his own research into the unmasking policy.

The intelligence reports were summaries of monitored conversations -- primarily between foreign officials discussing the Trump transition, but also in some cases direct contact between members of the Trump team and monitored foreign officials. One U.S. official familiar with the reports said they contained valuable political information on the Trump transition such as whom the Trump team was meeting, the views of Trump associates on foreign policy matters and plans for the incoming administration.

Making matters worse, Rice appears to have lied: while she has not spoken directly on the issue of unmasking, last month when she was asked on the "PBS NewsHour" about reports that Trump transition officials, including Trump himself, were swept up in incidental intelligence collection, Rice said: "I know nothing about this," adding, "I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that account today."

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Susan Rice Ordered "Detailed Spreadsheets Of Intercepted Phone Calls" With Trump Team

After it was revealed over the weekend by Mike Cernovich that Susan Rice was the mysterious Obama official behind the "unmasking" of Trump associates, the details behind the extreme measures taken by the Obama administration, including what seems to be personal legal liability for Susan Rice and potentially others, continue to grow more and more disturbing.

This morning, the Daily Caller has provided new details, courtesy of former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova, suggesting that Rice specifically requested that the NSA provide her with "detailed spreadsheets of intercepted phone calls with unmasked Trump associates."

“What was produced by the intelligence community at the request of Ms. Rice were detailed spreadsheets of intercepted phone calls with unmasked Trump associates in perfectly legal conversations with individuals,” diGenova told The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group Monday.

“The overheard conversations involved no illegal activity by anybody of the Trump associates, or anyone they were speaking with,” diGenova said. “In short, the only apparent illegal activity was the unmasking of the people in the calls.”

Meanwhile, Retired Colonel James Waurishuk, an NSC veteran and former deputy director for intelligence at the U.S. Central Command, said that the level of coordination required to pull off such a massive spying operation is staggering and would have required numerous personnel from the White House, NSA, CIA, National Security Council, etc.

“The lawyers and counsel at the NSA surely would be talking to the lawyers and members of counsel at CIA, or at the National Security Council or at the Director of National Intelligence or at the FBI,” he said. “It’s unbelievable of the level and degree of the administration to look for information on Donald Trump and his associates, his campaign team and his transition team. This is really, really serious stuff.”

In other words, it's growing increasingly unlikely that this operation was anything but a direct, targeted attempt of the Obama administration to utilize the full force of the U.S. intelligence apparatus to take down a political adversary.

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I see zerohedge as some of your sourcing SIG. They hide their identities. This post of your is bogus. You, SIG are bogus. Not genuine or true; fake. Sig you are fake. Your post is a subjective mess SIG. Fake, not genuine or true. SIG, you are fake.
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Confirmed: Susan Rice "Unmasked" Trump Team

Until this morning, the Cernovich report was unconfirmed, with many in the "legacy media" accusing Cernovich, who recently was profiled on 60 Minutes for being a prominent member of the "fake news" dissemination team for being - what else - fake news. However, moments ago Bloomberg's Eli Lake confirmed that it was indeed Susan Rice who was responsible for the repeatedly "unmasking" multiple members of the Trump team, in what may be dubbed yet another "conspiracy" to delegitimize the current US president.

From Eli Lake:

White House lawyers last month learned that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

The pattern of Rice's requests was discovered in a National Security Council review of the government's policy on "unmasking" the identities of individuals in the U.S. who are not targets of electronic eavesdropping, but whose communications are collected incidentally. Normally those names are redacted from summaries of monitored conversations and appear in reports as something like "U.S. Person One."

As Lake adds, the National Security Council's senior director for intelligence, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, was conducting the review, according to two U.S. officials who spoke with Bloomberg View on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly. In February Cohen-Watnick discovered Rice's multiple requests to unmask U.S. persons in intelligence reports that related to Trump transition activities. He brought this to the attention of the White House General Counsel's office, who reviewed more of Rice's requests and instructed him to end his own research into the unmasking policy.

The intelligence reports were summaries of monitored conversations -- primarily between foreign officials discussing the Trump transition, but also in some cases direct contact between members of the Trump team and monitored foreign officials. One U.S. official familiar with the reports said they contained valuable political information on the Trump transition such as whom the Trump team was meeting, the views of Trump associates on foreign policy matters and plans for the incoming administration.

Making matters worse, Rice appears to have lied: while she has not spoken directly on the issue of unmasking, last month when she was asked on the "PBS NewsHour" about reports that Trump transition officials, including Trump himself, were swept up in incidental intelligence collection, Rice said: "I know nothing about this," adding, "I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that account today."

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I see zerohedge as some of your sourcing SIG. They hide their identities. This post of your is bogus. You, SIG are bogus. Not genuine or true; fake. Sig you are fake. Your post is a subjective mess SIG. Fake, not genuine or true. SIG, you are fake.- THUGR

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If Sigs is fake, she's really been working the long con.
I think your Russian paranoia is really getting the best of you now T.- SIX

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WSJ reports that Susan Rice Was Not Alone In "Unmasking" Team Trump

As part of its daily wrap of the Susan Rice newsflow, which focused on her first media appearance since she was "outed" as the persona responsible for "unmasking" members of team Trump, the WSJ provides two new pieces of incremental information: i) in addition to Michael Flynn, at least one more member of the Trump transition team was "unmasked" in intelligence reports due to multiple foreign conversations that weren't related to Russia; and ii) Rice wasn't the administration official who instigated Mr. Flynn’s unmasking, confirming there is at least one more high-level official giving "unmasking" orders. https://www.wsj.com/articles/susan-rice-says-obama-administration-didn
t-use-intel-against-trump-associates-for-political-reasons-1491331871

.... this is where the WSJ comes in, with the new info that according to a Republican official familiar with deliberations by GOP lawmakers on the House Intelligence Committee said that the names of two U.S. citizens who were part of Mr. Trump’s transition team have been unmasked in intelligence reports. One is Mr. Flynn and the other hasn’t been identified. The report involving Mr. Flynn documented phone conversations he had in late December with the Russian ambassador to the U.S.

The WSJ then reports that Rice had requested the unmasking of at least one
transition official — not Mr. Flynn — who was part of multiple foreign
conversations that weren't related to Russia.

And the punchline: "The Republican official and others said Ms. Rice wasn't the administration official who instigated Mr. Flynn’s unmasking."

In other words, the story that Susan Rice is the unmasker is incomplete as there is at least one more person exposing the identities of people in Trump's circle, and that the NSA and other intel agencies have been surveiling, accidentally or otherwise, at least one, so far unnamed individual, from Trump's circle. It may well be someone that the WaPo and NYT have already published about, or it may be someone who has yet to hit the newswire, delivering the latest twist of the ongoing intelligence-fed news cycle.

For now the answer is unknown, although when Rice testifies under oath before the House Intel Committee, we hope that all outstanding questions will finally get answers.

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GOWDY: Director Comey, I am not arguing with you and I do agree that culture is important, but if there are 100 people who have the ability to unmask and the knowledge of a previously masked name, then that's 100 different potential sources of investigation and the smaller the number is, the easier your investigation is.

So the number is relevant. I can see the culture is relevant. NSA, FBI, what other U.S. government agencies have the authority to unmask a U.S. citizen's name?

COMEY: I think all agencies that collect information pursuant to FISA have what are called standard minimization procedures, which are approved by the FISA court that govern how they will treat U.S. person information. So I know the NSA does, I know the CIA does, obviously the FBI does. I don't know for sure beyond that.

GOWDY: How about the department of -- how about Main Justice?

COMEY: Main Justice, I think does have standard minimization procedures.

GOWDY: All right, so that's four. The NSA, FBI, CIA, Main Justice. Does the White House have the authority to unmask a U.S. citizen's name?

COMEY: I think other elements of the government that are consumers of our products can ask the collectors to unmask. The unmasking resides with those who collected the information.

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Deep state, deep state, that’s all SIG talks about. What she doesn’t say is deep state is a term used to describe a movement in Turkey. A movement that has the goal of destroying and dismantling its democratic institutions.

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So what's their big beef with Trump? Out of all of the things that Trump promised - and he promised a lot!- bringing the deep state to heel wasn't one of them. I think Trump would have been willing to live and let live, but the deep state is acting like he poses some sort of existential threat. Curious, and needs more thought.- SIGNY

Which contradicts the notion that they don't have something on him.= GSTRING

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As well as contradicts the notion that they already know what they have.-GSTRING

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Oh, and he did say the Intel community acted like Nazis. -GSTRING

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Deep state, deep state, that’s all SIG talks about. What she doesn’t say is deep state is a term used to describe a movement in Turkey. A movement that has the goal of destroying and dismantling its democratic institutions.

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Doesn't mean it stayed in Turkey. The younk turks didn't, and neither did the national socialists. Genocide didn't. These terms have been used other places since then, and the ideas that went with them. I accept SIg's suggestion. Every once in a while she hits it, like with her oil exchange currency theory.

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Of course you agree with SIG.

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Of course you agree with SIG.

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Of course you agree with SIG.

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Oh, you clearly have no idea of the history on this one.

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Like YOU said - if they had dirt on him they would have slipped him a napkin already.-GSTRING

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M52nickerson's sockpuppet

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I'm not about to dig up old threads just to start a fight with Sig, but suffice it to say, she used to be far to the left of me, now she's somewhere to the right of me.

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Some terrific sparks flew in past battles. I remember when i stopped arguing: she said to River that actually got to me.

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You'll notice things like this around here, there's a distance between some users that cannot be explained by their current political positions. Also, a lack of tension between some users.

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Like YOU said - if they had dirt on him they would have slipped him a napkin already.-GSTRING

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Which means... they don't have anything on Trump. So it seems we agree.

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It's going to be slow as to not arouse too much suspicion, but the "But Russia" thing has run its course. People are bored of it. What will they dream up next?

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It's going to be slow as to not arouse too much suspicion, but the "But Russia" thing has run its course. People are bored of it. What will they dream up next?

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And they answer you with... a world war.
Someone needs to drain that swamp.

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Ethics panel opens investigation into Nunes

The House Ethics Committee announced Thursday that it is investigating whether Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) made unauthorized disclosures of classified information while overseeing his panel’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

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I admit that I haven't been following the Nunes story. I gave up on the Russia narrative once I figured out it was a lie and why it was there. Russia's in the way of our war.

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A joint statement from House Ethics Committee Chairwoman Susan Brooks
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Enough of this nonsense. It is a witch hunt and it's over. Let the Russians come. And the Syrians. I tire of this agenda. Iranians too. Enough xenophobia. And Mexicans, and Chinese, sure. Everyone come on over. Help us make america great again. Sing me a Gershwin tune, let the big bands plan. If necessary, we'll hold a Britney Spears concert.

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I suspect not. I think that the claws of executive privilege are infinite, because no office holder wants to overturn them in case he wants to use them himself. Like after Trump's $20 trillion deal.

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Don't you guys ever get tired of looking stupid, yep stupid. Once again Trump and his minion Nunes are shown to have made false claims. Ethics rules have been violated and it is Trump and his team, not Susan Rice, who is under investigation. AGAIN...

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CNN Exclusive: Classified docs contradict Nunes surveillance claims, GOP and Dem sources say

Washington (CNN) — After a review of the same intelligence reports brought to light by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, both Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides have so far found no evidence that Obama administration officials did anything unusual or illegal, multiple sources in both parties tell CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/politics/intelligence-contradicts-nunes-
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The Guardian said it understood that GCHQ at no point conducted any targeted operation against Mr Trump or members of his team and that the agency had not been proactively seeking information.

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The claims are highly sensitive after Mr Trump last month alleged that President Barack Obama had illegally “wiretapped” him in Trump Tower.
Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017

His press secretary Sean Spicer then cited a media report claiming the bugging had been carried out by GCHQ.

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The allegation drew an extremely rare denial from GCHQ, which said the claim was “utterly ridiculous and should be ignored”, while Britain’s ambassador Sir Kim Darroch was given an assurance that it would not be repeated by the White House.

GCHQ merely declined to comment on the latest claims. A spokesman said: “It is long-standing policy that we do not comment on intelligence matters.”

According to The Guardian, the FBI and the CIA were slow to pick up on the extent of the contacts between Mr Trump’s team and the Russians in the run-up to last year’s presidential election – in part because US law bans them from monitoring the private communications of US citizens without a warrant.

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“It looks like the (US) agencies were asleep,” The Guardian quoted one source as saying. “They (the European agencies) were saying: ‘There are contacts going on between people close to Mr Trump and people we believe are Russian intelligence agents. You should be wary of this.’ “The message was: ‘Watch out. There’s something not right here.'”

GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, was said to have passed material directly to CIA chief John Brennan in the summer of 2016. After what was said to be a slow start, Mr Brennan used the intelligence to launch a major inter-agency investigation.

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A number of inquiries are now under way in Washington into Trump campaign officials and Moscow, including an FBI-led counter-espionage investigation and inquiries by both the House and Senate intelligence committees.

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