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What really gets me Riverlove, is how these "concerned" citizens complain about the left and liberals making fun of the dumbest motherfucker on the face of the planet, but not a peep about the heinous murderous act committed by a crazy fuck in Portland Oregon.

NOT A WORD!

Kathy Griffin's little "joke" is child's play compared to that scumbag killing two innocent bystanders who were sticking up for two innocent women. Like most bullies, they pick on the innocent decent people and he was so brave and strong that he carried a knife. But do we hear anything regarding the despicable act - NO!

When Siggy, Rappy, Sixstring and others condemn THAT behavior, then MAYBE, just maybe I'll listen.


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Not sure why I was brought into the events in Portland. The knifer / murderer seemed to support Bernie more than anyone, and hated Trump and Hillary. I think he snapped after Trump won ( if he was ever coherent - I kinda doubt it ) , and tried to troll the ' free speech ' movement, parroting them as he was mocking ...attacking damn near everything.

Kathy did far more than " make fun of " Trump. Even Al Franken, Ms Griffin's friend and colleague, condemned the act. EVERYONE did, save for a few true loony nut jobs on the Left. You one of them ?

Frankly, don't care.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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I kind of ignored the whole Portland thing myself because I don't see how it has anything to do with me at all either.

Since I don't suffer from any White Guilt and have discussed the reasons why on other threads, I'm certainly not going to apologize for his behavior because he's an idiot who happens to be white.

He's just some crazy dude that deserves whatever he gets now, which should be a life in prison or the death penalty depending on the law there.



Why would it be my job to condemn his behavior?

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Another country heard from.

Then, if you don't give a fuck, why even comment on Kathy Griffin's stupid human trick. You guys really must love cherries.

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Fucking typical response and one of the main reasons I "brought you in" to this.
Have the balls to call me a lefty, if that's what you want. And since everyone has to have a label, call me whatever..............

Because I don't give a FUCK!


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In a press announcement she posted on Twitter, Bloom said that she and Griffin will “explain the true motivation behind the image, and respond to the bullying from the Trump family she has endured.”

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Griffin and Bloom believe the comedian has received harsher backlash because she is female.
"This is a woman thing," Griffin said.

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Fucking typical response and one of the main reasons I "brought you in" to this.
Have the balls to call me a lefty, if that's what you want. And since everyone has to have a label, call me whatever..............

Because I don't give a FUCK!


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You don't give a fuck about the facts. Yes, I see that. But what I don't see is why you're getting angry and all name cally.

Don't be mad, brah.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
To tell you the truth, I find Kathy to be a untalented, humorless 'comedienne', who's looking to boost her career, such as it is, by creating controversy and making herself a martyr.

As for implied threats or threats against a president by a media figure, Ted Nugent shows up on the top of a google search. https://thinkprogress.org/trump-hosts-ted-nugent-white-house-c0da4b94c
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So it's been going on, on BOTH sides, for a while.

Meanwhile, as far as I can tell, this was the total of Trump's response: "Kathy Griffin should be ashamed of herself. My children, especially my 11 year old son, Barron, are having a hard time with this. Sick!" I certainly don't see a threat there, Griffin's claims notwithstanding.

IMO, people should just stop giving Griffin all that pointless press. Just let her sink back into the obscurity from when she arose, already.

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Do you really mean to say you don't care about facts? ... because that's seeming pretty irrational.

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To tell you the truth, I find Kathy to be a untalented, humorless 'comedienne', who's looking to boost her career, such as it is, by creating controversy and making herself a martyr. - KIKI

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I could watch that all day long. That is fuuuuuunnnnneeee!

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To tell you the truth, I find Kathy to be a untalented, humorless 'comedienne', who's looking to boost her career, such as it is, by creating controversy and making herself a martyr. - KIKI

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Apparently, it's not working well. She's generating exposure farther than her original audience, but they don't seem to like her too well. More "blowback" than "echo". I think her career boosting move backfired. In the end, she'll wind up back with the people who would have listened to her anyway, but nobody else. I mean, she already had CNN exposure; now she even going to lose that. This "blip" versus that "lost exposure" will probably cancel out, except that her potential audience will have changed status from "naive" to "hate her", and she'll be on file somewhere in the NSA database.


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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
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Another country heard from.

Then, if you don't give a fuck, why even comment on Kathy Griffin's stupid human trick. You guys really must love cherries.

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I didn't say I don't give a fuck. It sucks. People get murdered every day. A lot of people. That sucks.

This murder is no more or less important than any of the other murders that happened on that day. The only reason that it got media attention was the same reason that you gave it more attention. It was used for political purposes.

Why do you feel the need for me to have to condemn it?


When I demand that Muslims condemn a terror attack that was carried out by another Muslim it is because they practice the same faith. I would expect a Black Muslim or a White Muslim to condemn that attack, just as well as a Brown Muslim.

I know nothing of this man. I doubt we share any religious beliefs as I'm largely undecided and unconfirmed in that regard. Auraptor says that he didn't like Trump or Hillary and was a Bernie supporter. I didn't read up on him, so I don't know that for a fact.

What else is there that links me to him, other than the fact that he's White? The fact that he's American? I'm sure as fuck not going to feel obligated to condemn the murders for either of those reasons.

Murder is bad. If it makes you happy I'll say that murder is bad. I don't know what else you expect from me on the subject.


What you're presenting here is the textbook definition of a false equivalency.

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People get murdered every day. A lot of people. That sucks.

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The only reason that it got media attention was the same reason that you gave it more attention. It was used for political purposes.

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Why do you feel the need for me to have to condemn it?

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When I demand that Muslims condemn a terror attack that was carried out by another Muslim it is because they practice the same faith. I would expect a Black Muslim or a White Muslim to condemn that attack, just as well as a Brown Muslim.

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Now here's where it gets a little weird for me. So, what you want is for all Muslims, regardless of skin color, condemn acts of violence by their fellow Muslims. Dude, you just finished telling me the opposite in the above paragraph.
That I have no right (and you are right about that) to tell you what to do (even though I did not do that). But what you do want is for the Muslims to do as you say, but not as you do.

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I view any religion as a cult, really.

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I got my ass kicked and was stabbed in the back by 4 guys for standing up for a woman when I was 19. I didn't die, but I got the ass kicking of my life and spent the night in the hospital after having a catheter stuck up my pee-hole and down my nose, and had an IV bag dumped into a cut they made in my belly to see if I was bleeding internally.

Nobody called me a hero. Nobody gave a shit.

Shit happens.

Next....

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Now here's where it gets a little weird for me. So, what you want is for all Muslims, regardless of skin color, condemn acts of violence by their fellow Muslims. Dude, you just finished telling me the opposite in the above paragraph.
That I have no right (and you are right about that) to tell you what to do (even though I did not do that). But what you do want is for the Muslims to do as you say, but not as you do.

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No. It's a lot different.

One of the guys who put me in the hospital was black. One was mexican. Two were white. I don't expect blacks and mexicans to apologize to me for the actions of those idiots. Hell... It's just as much my fault as it was theirs really. I should have known my situation and not gotten involved. There was really no other way that could have ended except for me actually being murdered.

I don't expect every single Muslim person to come out and say something about these types of incidents. How would you even "catalog" something like that. There are a lot of them.

What I DO expect is for every Muslim LEADER to condemn any attacks made by any Muslims, regardless of their race.


Islam is a ideology of INTOLERANCE and HATE.

2 million of them here in the USA might not be extremists, but it only took 19 of them to bring the country to its knees in 2001.

People like that need to be shamed by their own. They need to be outcasts. Future possible terrorists for the Muslim cause need to know ahead of time that this is not acceptable.



I view any religion as a cult, really. They are the only cult out there as massive as they are that is out there constantly murdering people. What is wrong with you and people like you that you keep defending them?

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I have seen Muslim leaders here in this country condemn the violence perpetrated by those claiming to be Islamic. But that's me. In my neighborhood there is a mosque that has been here for decades, and so far no one has been killed by any of it's members. They live and work in the community, they have been around a long time and nothing untoward has ever happened.

Except for one thing: a Muslim cleric was stabbed in the back in a neighborhood not far from my area. He was walking to his home from "services" minding his own business.

You say that you haven't seen Islamic leaders condemn violence, I take you at your word.

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
That's a great start. This should be playing on every single television all over the globe.

Can anybody watching the news on either CNN/MSNBC and FOX tell me how much coverage this is getting?

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I will keep an eye out for this, but I agree with Brenda, this is good to see.
I guess this is what you've been looking for Six. Of course, we don't want these guys to be targeted by ISIS either, but this is the risk you take for freedom of religion.

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