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This Group Has Successfully Converted White Supremacists Using Compassion.
Trump Defunded It.

“How do we know people are redeemable? Life After Hate is completely made up of Formers,” he said, invoking a phrase the organization uses to describe people who have successfully departed hate groups. “The rest of the team were all members of white supremacist groups and were in leadership roles. They were the core of those groups.”

“I myself was an extremist,” he said, pointing to his former gang leadership. “I had a lot of mental health diagnoses that said I was incorrigible, I was anti-social … basically that I couldn’t change, and yet here I am.”

https://theintercept.com/2017/08/17/this-group-has-successfully-conver
ted-white-supremacists-using-compassion-trump-defunded-it/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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...but if 6 is quoting it as fact it's got stink all over it like Pizzagate stink.

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So I should listen to 3 more douche bags? Yeah - I wonder if you even watched those vids.

First guy is a Hannity wannabe - he'll say anything.
Second vid said it was not her and it was ludicrous.
3rd one is Morning Joe - 'nuff said on that one.

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I won't be holding my breath waiting for Congress to actually do anything constructive for this country.

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Knowledge is a bitch

Politico, April 22, 2011: The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.

Fact check.org and smopes try to spin the story as false, claiming that the Hillary campaign proper wasn't involved. Not officially at least two. Which is exactly how these things work. Get a "unaffiliated" group which does support a candidate, but doesn't officially get any marching orders from it to put out information, or participate in the actions which will hurt the opposition. Just like "ducks on the ground" which was another Hillary operation , intended to cause chaos at Trump rally's.

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It really is hard to know if you really know something, ain't it? Sorry - your "Hillary did it" just doesn't pass for me, too Fuxie, too convenient. I'm not saying it definitely did not happen - I have no doubt she could and did get up to stuff - but if 6 is quoting it as fact it's got stink all over it like Pizzagate stink. Plus she's the all too convenient bogey woman for Liberal haters. And then there's conflicting evidence - it's not as verifiable as Trump running with it for 5 years. And then there's Trump being a lying pos every day since he started his campaign.

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Plus she's the all too convenient bogey woman for Liberal haters.

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Leftist love nothing more than repeating a lie over and over until finally people start to believe it. Here is yet another instance of that on display. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.

The reference to "there are four lights" is from Star Trek – the next generation. I have used this meme a few times here before.


The Cardassian was trying to get Picard to say that there are five lights. Four or five, really what difference does it make anyways? But that is how they play these games. Get you to admit a small lie, something that isn't true , just a trivial thing. Once they do that, it becomes easier for you to fall in line and repeat other, larger lies

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Leftist love nothing more than repeating a lie over and over until finally people start to believe it. Here is yet another instance of that on display. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.

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When did AURaptor become such a thin-skinned little whiner complaining that liberals are meanies lying about his precious President?

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More lies.

There are 4 lights.

See what I mean??

There is a very real and present danger in bearing false witness up on those with whom you disagree. Calling those who are racist when in fact they are not racist, demesnes the actual word itself. It's like crying wolf over and over again hoping that maybe one Time the charge me actually stick.

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According to a new CBS poll, 67 percent of Republicans approve of the way Trump handled the Charlottesville aftermath, while 82 percent of Democrats disapproved.
www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-divided-over-trumps-response-to-charlot
tesville-cbs-news-poll/?linkId=41076262

When Trump gets charged with income tax evasion, the split will be much the same. 67 percent of Republicans think Trump should be pardoned because the tax code is too complicated to be understood and 82 percent of Democrats think Trump should pay back his taxes and go to jail.

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Plus she's the all too convenient bogey woman for Liberal haters.

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LOL at bogey woman.

That's where we're at now, huh? We even have to go out of our way to differentiate the sexes when we're applying a fictional derogatory term to somebody.

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Haven't heard a thing about Russia in weeks now. You've successfully turned your useful idiots attention elsewhere since that wasn't going anywhere. You never cease to amaze me in your mind control abilities.

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I'm sure Trump has enough time in his day where he looked at that and personally defunded it.

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Leftist love nothing more than repeating a lie over and over until finally people start to believe it. Here is yet another instance of that on display. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.

The reference to "there are four lights" is from Star Trek – the next generation. I have used this meme a few times here before.


The Cardassian was trying to get Picard to say that there are five lights. Four or five, really what difference does it make anyways? But that is how they play these games. Get you to admit a small lie, something that isn't true , just a trivial thing. Once they do that, it becomes easier for you to fall in line and repeat other, larger lies

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wow. Thanks, I never would have gotten that reference.

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Illinois Senate passes measure for Nazis to be classed as terrorists
'It is vital that we stand in total opposition to the hatred, bigotry and violence displayed by the white nationalist and neo-Nazi groups in Charlottesville this past weekend,' says senator

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/illinois-senate-neo-n
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Good. Nazis are, by definition, terrorists, and should be treated as such.

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Knowledge is a bitch

Politico, April 22, 2011: The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.

Fact check.org and smopes try to spin the story as false, claiming that the Hillary campaign proper wasn't involved. Not officially at least two. Which is exactly how these things work. Get a "unaffiliated" group which does support a candidate, but doesn't officially get any marching orders from it to put out information, or participate in the actions which will hurt the opposition. Just like "ducks on the ground" which was another Hillary operation , intended to cause chaos at Trump rally's.

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It really is hard to know if you really know something, ain't it? Sorry - your "Hillary did it" just doesn't pass for me, too Fuxie, too convenient. I'm not saying it definitely did not happen - I have no doubt she could and did get up to stuff - but if 6 is quoting it as fact it's got stink all over it like Pizzagate stink. Plus she's the all too convenient bogey woman for Liberal haters. And then there's conflicting evidence - it's not as verifiable as Trump running with it for 5 years. And then there's Trump being a lying pos every day since he started his campaign.

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I won't be holding my breath waiting for Congress to actually do anything constructive for this country.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Leftist love nothing more than repeating a lie over and over until finally people start to believe it. Here is yet another instance of that on display. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down. It's not unlike a toddler who refuses to admit they were wrong.

The reference to "there are four lights" is from Star Trek – the next generation. I have used this meme a few times here before.


The Cardassian was trying to get Picard to say that there are five lights. Four or five, really what difference does it make anyways? But that is how they play these games. Get you to admit a small lie, something that isn't true , just a trivial thing. Once they do that, it becomes easier for you to fall in line and repeat other, larger lies

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wow. Thanks, I never would have gotten that reference.

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Hillary and Obama bashing is in the Trump playbook 101. Whenever he is criticized . . . he quickly blames Hillary or Obama, or both.

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Finally Rappy gets it. A Republican led majority = nothing done!


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I won't be holding my breath waiting for Congress to actually do anything constructive for this country.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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OMG you guys are too much.

First, that whole repeating a lie over and over is a ploy used to near exhaustion by your fearless dickhead - D. Trump. "I know it, and you know it. Many sides were to blame" - what a fucking joke. I watched the special report when the whole thing broke out. It was plain as day, the fucking Nazi goose-stepping low life scumbags were using, bats, pipes and two-by- fours, and shields to beat on people. There was a video of 5 or 6 Nazis beating on an unarmed black student who was counter-protesting...UNARMED and they beat him with clubs, bats, sticks, punches and kicks. 5 to 6 guys.

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You're only seeing what you want to see. There's plenty of video out there where antifa folks are armed and were throwing objects. And this isn't the first time Antifa has been pulling this shit before. Going back to Berkeley ( 2x ) where they vandalized, and attacked unarmed people, even one girl getting beaten over the head w/ a flag pole... Trump is 100% right here, and I don't care how much hate you have for him or the Nazis, no amount of spin can change the facts.

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There were reports of these scumbags hitting women, pushing clergy (who were there to keep the peace). One eye witness was interviewed and she said that the clergy were dressed in their religious garb but that it made no difference, they were pushed and shoved by these punks and that the volunteers from Antifa came along and escorted them away from the violence.

But Trump, in his full throated glory, says that the "left" began the violence.

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He never said they began the violence. Stop lying. He said they took part in it, by aggressively attacking those who had a PERMIT to be there.

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But, of course, they say nothing of the fliers that were passed around openly saying that they, the Nazis, were going to kick some ass. Of course, they were "peacefully" marching without a mean bone in their body. Then why were they dressed in "riot" gear and motorcycle and bike helmets? And, of course, Trump doesn't mention the bottles filled with urine, and the cans of soda being thrown.

No lies. Of course not!

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The Left uses fliers too, and every bit as vitriolic. Fliers aren't violence. It's free speech.

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This is what Trump does when he doesn't get his way, the Big Baby!
Fucking scumbag and shit for brains, who follows Bannon's every word.
He can't keep his story straight. Fucking scumbag pussy-grabber!


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You're just jealous he's grabbed some of the nicest kitty in the world.



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Illinois Senate passes measure for Nazis to be classed as terrorists
'It is vital that we stand in total opposition to the hatred, bigotry and violence displayed by the white nationalist and neo-Nazi groups in Charlottesville this past weekend,' says senator

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/illinois-senate-neo-n
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Good. Nazis are, by definition, terrorists, and should be treated as such.

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It's never going to go anywhere because of people like who throw the word around everywhere.

By your own logic, more than half of the people who post on this board are terrorists.

Are they going to start rounding up half of the country now?

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I dropped out of college because I didn't like the brainwashing.

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I dropped out of college because I didn't like the brainwashing.

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Yeah. Right. They were brainwashing everyone, but you were too smart to fall for it, so you dropped out. They're all "sheeple," but not you. You're special.

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OMG you guys are too much.

First, that whole repeating a lie over and over is a ploy used to near exhaustion by your fearless dickhead - D. Trump. "I know it, and you know it. Many sides were to blame" - what a fucking joke. I watched the special report when the whole thing broke out. It was plain as day, the fucking Nazi goose-stepping low life scumbags were using, bats, pipes and two-by- fours, and shields to beat on people. There was a video of 5 or 6 Nazis beating on an unarmed black student who was counter-protesting...UNARMED and they beat him with clubs, bats, sticks, punches and kicks. 5 to 6 guys.

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I dropped out of college because I didn't like the brainwashing.

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Yeah. Right. They were brainwashing everyone, but you were too smart to fall for it, so you dropped out. They're all "sheeple," but not you. You're special.

LOL!

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I have no college debt, a home and a car free and clear, a head not full of liberal brainwashing. I had all of that when I was only 32 years old.

I don't buy a bunch of shit I don't need. I live a minimalist lifestyle that isn't influenced at all by materialism. I've essentially been retired since 32 years old and beholden to nobody.

If you took all of the years of my adult working life and averaged out the pay, I'm at about $12,000-$13,000 per year, so no... can't blame my success on any sort of pre-concieved white male privlidge.

It's not about how much money you make. It's what you do with it that matters.

Yeah. I'd say that could be considered by some to be special. If nothing else it's entirely unique.


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OMG you guys are too much.

First, that whole repeating a lie over and over is a ploy used to near exhaustion by your fearless dickhead - D. Trump. "I know it, and you know it. Many sides were to blame" - what a fucking joke. I watched the special report when the whole thing broke out. It was plain as day, the fucking Nazi goose-stepping low life scumbags were using, bats, pipes and two-by- fours, and shields to beat on people. There was a video of 5 or 6 Nazis beating on an unarmed black student who was counter-protesting...UNARMED and they beat him with clubs, bats, sticks, punches and kicks. 5 to 6 guys.

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You're only seeing what you want to see. There's plenty of video out there where antifa folks are armed and were throwing objects. And this isn't the first time Antifa has been pulling this shit before. Going back to Berkeley ( 2x ) where they vandalized, and attacked unarmed people, even one girl getting beaten over the head w/ a flag pole... Trump is 100% right here, and I don't care how much hate you have for him or the Nazis, no amount of spin can change the facts.

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There were reports of these scumbags hitting women, pushing clergy (who were there to keep the peace). One eye witness was interviewed and she said that the clergy were dressed in their religious garb but that it made no difference, they were pushed and shoved by these punks and that the volunteers from Antifa came along and escorted them away from the violence.

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But, of course, they say nothing of the fliers that were passed around openly saying that they, the Nazis, were going to kick some ass. Of course, they were "peacefully" marching without a mean bone in their body. Then why were they dressed in "riot" gear and motorcycle and bike helmets? And, of course, Trump doesn't mention the bottles filled with urine, and the cans of soda being thrown.

No lies. Of course not!

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This is what Trump does when he doesn't get his way, the Big Baby!
Fucking scumbag and shit for brains, who follows Bannon's every word.
He can't keep his story straight. Fucking scumbag pussy-grabber!

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You're just jealous he's grabbed some of the nicest kitty in the world.


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SGG just conveniently forgets how well produced, directed, controlled the leftist "news" videos are proven to be.
How did they forget to include all the trucks blowing up?

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Wow, this thread has taken on a life of its own.

I'm sure that anything that I have to say won't have any impact.

But I really think this is very much a cooked-up animosity, fueled by "identity politics" on both "the left" (whatever THAT is) and "the right" (whatever THAT is). I really think that you all are being played for fools.

Can't we get past thinking of ourselves and each other as DNC/RNC; POC/white; left/right etc?

For example, clearly it is bad to plow your car into a group of people, whether you're a pissed-off antifa, or a KKK racist, or a radical jihadist.

Instead of saying "racists are bad" what about "racISM is bad"? Instead of saying that the KKK/antifa/jihadists are bad, can't we just say that political violence is bad? Then we can stop beating each other over the head.


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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
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Clearly you are talking to all the Trump voters here.

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So, going past all the back and forth - I read Trump's statements - all of them.

And I read many news accounts of what happened.

And you know what?

Trump was right. There was provocation on BOTH sides. There was instigation on BOTH sides. There was violence on BOTH sides. There's truth on BOTH sides. There's blame on BOTH sides.

Just because the particular things you were allowed to see made one group LOOK more menacing than the other doesn't mean you got the truth about what they DID.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a myopic partisan who's blind to everything but their own pov reflected back to them.

Here's a sampling



http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-l
eft/index.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-18/first-they-came-statues

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-washington-and-lee-20170817-htmlst
ory.html

https://www.dddmag.com/news/2017/08/researchers-discover-fundamental-p
athology-behind-als

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charlottesville-witnesses-20170815
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Everyone involved is trash and will all eventually be labeled as terrorists.
https://www.njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antif
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"People" just don't divide into groups like that. It's not like there are "white fascists/ Trump supporters" and "antifa/ Hillary supporters" and nobody else.

MOST people's ideas are more granular. They might agree with one thing (economic nationalism or global warming) but not other things (white supremacy or international finance).

Why are we beating up on EACH OTHER, trying to pin people into certain groups where they really don't belong?

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You are a real fucking piece of work Siggy.

Let me see if I have this right: Stop name-calling, you stupid fools.
Is that about right? Wow, you actually wrote that. You are not the only one with thoughts and opinions, but to tell people to stop the name calling and then violate the very suggestion you made....now that takes brilliance.

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Straight from the Siggy playbook, SGG. I would add that on top of "brilliance" it takes ignorance of any self awareness as well. I've seen her insult people in the same sentence that she acts like a victim. WTF? Does she read what other people post? Purposeful ignorance.

Also in her playbooK: acting like you are the first person to think of something when half the people you're talking to have already said it. It's Trumpian. It's Control Freakian.



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A little over 30 years ago, I was married to a narcissist. I did not come to know that at the time (they are particularly skilled at turning things around to their seeming advantage).

Fast forward to about a year ago. I met a woman online that had all the earmarks of a long lasting relationship, but no, I eventually found out that she was a narcissist. On both occasions it took me some time to recover because they really screw with your mind, unless of course you know what to look for. They twist things, even illogical things, and make it seem as though it's your fault. A real head trip if ever I have experienced one.

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