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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Jared Kushner Used Private Email In Trump Administration, Lawyer Confirms

"Mr. Kushner uses his White House email address to conduct White House business," Lowell said in the statement.

Emails have been a central theme for Kushner's father-in-law, President Trump, who has repeatedly said that Democratic rival Hillary Clinton should face federal criminal charges over her use of private email while serving as secretary of State.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/25/553427374/jared-kush
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Non issue.
Fewer than 100 e-mails in total.
Not like the 10's of 1000's that Hillary destroyed.
Not a " personal server ", but merely 1 account.

And he's certainly not the head of a Cabinet level positon, while trading pay-for-play favors with heads of state or large international corporations.

Like Hillary.

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Boy you really need to start paying attention. You don't know what you're talking about.

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Non issue.
Fewer than 100 e-mails in total.
Not like the 10's of 1000's that Hillary destroyed.
Not a " personal server ", but merely 1 account.

And he's certainly not the head of a Cabinet level positon, while trading pay-for-play favors with heads of state or large international corporations.

Like Hillary.

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Boy you really need to start paying attention. You don't know what you're talking about.

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I was wondering about that myself. The quote from the article actually says that he was using White House email to conduct White House business?

Does the article really say that this is wrong? Are they just throwing out sensational headlines now to see if people looking for something to bitch about will scream and yell even when the article itself says nothing bad at all?


If that's what really happened here than I tip my hat to you NPR.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't know, or waste my time perusing Fake News NPR. I just quoted the OP, otherwise he would change the content of the post and claim he didn't.

Maybe NPR was again fishing for gullible imbiciles, and reeled another one in.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Apparently, Ivanka has been doing it too.

One email or 1000, a leak is a leak.

The truth is they ALL do it, and just think they won't get caught.

Why we haven't put security people in charge of this shit from day one is DISGRACEFUL.

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Here's the full statement from Kushner's attorney, Abbe Lowell:

"Mr. Kushner uses his White House email address to conduct White House business. Fewer than a hundred emails from January through August were either sent to or returned by Mr. Kushner to colleagues in the White House from his personal email account. These usually forwarded news articles or political commentary and most often occurred when someone initiated the exchange by sending an email to his personal, rather than his White House, address. All non-personal emails were forwarded to his official address and all have been preserved in any event."

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't know, or waste my time perusing Fake News NPR. I just quoted the OP, otherwise he would change the content of the post and claim he didn't.

Maybe NPR was again fishing for gullible imbiciles, and reeled another one in.

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It is curious.

I can't imagine that the article didn't say that. How do you butcher a simple cut and paste job unless you were doing it intentionally?


That would mean the "biggest point" of the article the OP posted either a big nothing burger or a typo. Either way, somebody just got punkd.

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[...all it takes is one illegal or mishandled email to be charged, convicted and locked up.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Non issue.
Fewer than 100 e-mails in total.
Not like the 10's of 1000's that Hillary destroyed.
Not a " personal server ", but merely 1 account.

And he's certainly not the head of a Cabinet level positon, while trading pay-for-play favors with heads of state or large international corporations.

Like Hillary.

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...to conduct illegal Secretary of State cash transactions, right? That would be different.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, agreed...IT IS A NOTHING BURGER! Powell did it, so did Condi Rice.
The legality of this situation was brought up and questioned by Trump, who, in his own loveable way, exaggerated the seriousness of the emails Hillary communicated with.

In other words, it was he who put the legality of the practice in the forefront. And now, ironically so, his family are doing exactly the same thing. What hypocrites! And in case you or any of our illustrious RWED members care to persist on Hillary's guilt in the matter; remember the FBI investigated and found nothing illegal in the thousands of emails. Otherwise she would be locked up; as would Jared and company, if ever it was found to have been handled in an illegal manner. Also, all it takes is one illegal or mishandled email to be charged, convicted and locked up.

Now think carefully before you respond.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, THUGR, do you mean the double standard where people get apoplectic about less than a hundred emails ... because The law is the law! (not even sure any laws were broken*) .... but fail to criticize Hillary for much worse? (Yanno, like "wiping" a server after being subpoenaed.)

You mean THAT double standard?

Yes, you have indeed demonstrated it!

Not only that, you demonstrated that your reading comprehension is STILL not up to par!


* What I got out of the article was ... "All non-personal emails were forwarded to his official address." In other words, somebody sends you an email to the wrong address. You direct them to the correct address and forward their email to the correct address. Sounds like good protocol to me.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Apparently, Ivanka has been doing it too.

One email or 1000, a leak is a leak.

The truth is they ALL do it, and just think they won't get caught.

Why we haven't put security people in charge of this shit from day one is DISGRACEFUL.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, agreed...IT IS A NOTHING BURGER! Powell did it, so did Condi Rice.
The legality of this situation was brought up and questioned by Trump, who, in his own loveable way, exaggerated the seriousness of the emails Hillary communicated with.

In other words, it was he who put the legality of the practice in the forefront. And now, ironically so, his family are doing exactly the same thing. What hypocrites! And in case you or any of our illustrious RWED members care to persist on Hillary's guilt in the matter; remember the FBI investigated and found nothing illegal in the thousands of emails. Otherwise she would be locked up; as would Jared and company, if ever it was found to have been handled in an illegal manner. Also, all it takes is one illegal or mishandled email to be charged, convicted and locked up.

Now think carefully before you respond.

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Here's the full statement from Kushner's attorney, Abbe Lowell:
"Mr. Kushner uses his White House email address to conduct White House business. Fewer than a hundred emails from January through August were either sent to or returned by Mr. Kushner to colleagues in the White House from his personal email account. These usually forwarded news articles or political commentary and most often occurred when someone initiated the exchange by sending an email to his personal, rather than his White House, address. All non-personal emails were forwarded to his official address and all have been preserved in any event."

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I don't know, or waste my time perusing Fake News NPR. I just quoted the OP, otherwise he would change the content of the post and claim he didn't.

Maybe NPR was again fishing for gullible imbiciles, and reeled another one in.

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It is curious.

I can't imagine that the article didn't say that. How do you butcher a simple cut and paste job unless you were doing it intentionally?

That would mean the "biggest point" of the article the OP posted either a big nothing burger or a typo. Either way, somebody just got punkd.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Incapable of thinking or reading before responding.

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
The point goes above Wishes head for a 3rd time.

That wasn't the original story posted, or what the original story said.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Apparently, Ivanka has been doing it too.

One email or 1000, a leak is a leak.

The truth is they ALL do it, and just think they won't get caught.

Why we haven't put security people in charge of this shit from day one is DISGRACEFUL.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Here's the thing, genius.

Hillary was in/around the White House for 8 years, Jared and Ivanka have been around it less than a year. The only reason they are doing something about it now, is BECAUSE of Hillary. If they had not gone through it with Hillary, how many e-mails do you think they would have found????

They all do it and now they DEFINITELY KNOW THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE. There is NO EXCUSE for the stupidity NOW.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Apparently, Ivanka has been doing it too.

One email or 1000, a leak is a leak.

The truth is they ALL do it, and just think they won't get caught.

Why we haven't put security people in charge of this shit from day one is DISGRACEFUL.

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Not, a leak is NOT a leak, kitten. And no, they don't ALL do it.

How many top secret / classified docs were hacked or even in those emails of Jared or Ivanka ?

ZERO

Compare that to the 1000's of top secret docs and names on Hillary's, whose SERVER was hacked.. good grief, if you really need to have this explained to you all over again, then there's no point.

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The quote the OP put in the article was that he used a White House email address to conduct White House business.

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Fewer than a hundred emails from January through August were either sent to or returned by Mr. Kushner to colleagues in the White House from his personal email account.

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when someone initiated the exchange by sending an email to his personal, rather than his White House, address.

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emails were forwarded to his official address and all have been preserved in any event."

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, agreed...IT IS A NOTHING BURGER! Powell did it, so did Condi Rice.
The legality of this situation was brought up and questioned by Trump, who, in his own loveable way, exaggerated the seriousness of the emails Hillary communicated with.

In other words, it was he who put the legality of the practice in the forefront. And now, ironically so, his family are doing exactly the same thing. What hypocrites! And in case you or any of our illustrious RWED members care to persist on Hillary's guilt in the matter; remember the FBI investigated and found nothing illegal in the thousands of emails. Otherwise she would be locked up; as would Jared and company, if ever it was found to have been handled in an illegal manner. Also, all it takes is one illegal or mishandled email to be charged, convicted and locked up.

Now think carefully before you respond.

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You misunderstand, SGG.

The quote the OP put in the article was that he used a White House email address to conduct White House business.

If that's the case... I don't see what the issue is.


I don't think anybody in any government position should be using their work email addresses to conduct personal business. It just goes to show the hubris of these people that work in the public sector.

There was no way in hell that I was going to use the company email to send personal messages at my last good job. It was a well known fact that all emails sent within the company were subject to monitoring and that some people had been fired simply for sending "inappropriate" things. One of the managers had been fired while I worked there for sending one of these things to a female co-worker. They were friends. She didn't go to anybody and complain, and actually she was really messed up about it when he was fired. It was probably some random check that was done on emails that got him... or maybe somebody had it out for him for some reason...


I agree that anybody using their work emails in any public sector position for personal use should be punished.


Hillary did a lot more than that though. Assuming that all was done here was sending a personal email with the work account, trying to equate one to the other is not a valid argument.

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Reeled in a third.
Incapable of thinking or reading before responding.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Agreed...it has been going on for years, but is only now an issue because of the campaign and Trump's pathetic accusations. Now the shoe's on the other foot and the issue is being pressed by the Democrats, especially after all that noise he made.

So, if it's a NOTHING BURGER for Trump, then it is so for Hillary.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Agreed...it has been going on for years, but is only now an issue because of the campaign and Trump's pathetic accusations. Now the shoe's on the other foot and the issue is being pressed by the Democrats, especially after all that noise he made.

So, if it's a NOTHING BURGER for Trump, then it is so for Hillary.

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How can you honestly equate the two, SGG?

I agree that if they are using government emails to conduct personal business that is a problem. There is nothing here that comes close to what Hillary did. Comey himself said that she broke the law, but they weren't looking to press charges because she didn't intentionally break it. Anybody else would have had their ass nailed to the wall under those circumstances.

This current issue will not be used as a get out of jail free card for Hillary.

This wasn't because of Trump and the campaign either. They were investigating Hillary for this before Trump even started running.

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I don't care what the original story says. The point is they all use unauthorized e-mail addresses, that is MY POINT.

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James Norton, a former senior homeland security official during the George W. Bush administration, said private accounts pose security risks — a criticism often raised against Mrs. Clinton.

“These private email accounts become targets of phishing attacks or other types of ways of collecting information,” he said. “It’s an issue not only for the person who owns that account, but the person who is receiving the emails. It is introducing risk into the system.”

Richard W. Painter, a chief White House ethics lawyer under Mr. Bush who is now the vice chairman of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a watchdog group, said that there is often a “gray area” over what is considered official business. But, he said, “If it has anything to do with the president’s policy, including defending the president’s policy to the press, it’s very difficult to escape that being official.”

“I think Kushner was sloppy to do this,” he said. “I think Hillary was sloppy. I don’t think any of it was criminal.”

The private email accounts immediately triggered questions in Congress. Representative Trey Gowdy, Republican of South Carolina, who was among those who most vociferously criticized Mrs. Clinton’s email use, sent a letter to the White House and federal agencies asking about the Trump administration’s personal email use.

Representative Elijah E. Cummings, the senior Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, asked the White House to make sure that none of Mr. Kushner’s emails are deleted.

Mr. Cummings noted that Trump administration officials had previously said that senior White House officials did not use multiple email accounts. And he reminded the White House about the grilling that Mrs. Clinton received from congressional Republicans over her email practices.

Both political parties have fought for years over the use of private email accounts. Long before Mrs. Clinton’s emails were a campaign issue, Democrats criticized members of the George W. Bush administration for the practice.

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Officials are supposed to use government emails for their official duties so their conversations are available to the public and those conducting oversight. But it is not illegal for White House officials to use private email accounts as long as they forward work-related messages to their work accounts so they can be preserved.

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White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner has used both a private email account and an official email address to communicate with other government officials, according to his attorney. Responding to media reports about Kushner's email habits, his lawyer said, "All non-personal emails were forwarded to his official address."

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Here's the thing, genius.

Hillary was in/around the White House for 8 years, Jared and Ivanka have been around it less than a year. The only reason they are doing something about it now, is BECAUSE of Hillary. If they had not gone through it with Hillary, how many e-mails do you think they would have found????

They all do it and now they DEFINITELY KNOW THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE. There is NO EXCUSE for the stupidity NOW.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey Rap......was anyone arrested?


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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
The point goes above Wishes head for a 3rd time.

That wasn't the original story posted, or what the original story said.

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I don't care what the original story says. The point is they all use unauthorized e-mail addresses, that is MY POINT.

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It seems that there are others who think along those lines as well:

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James Norton, a former senior homeland security official during the George W. Bush administration, said private accounts pose security risks — a criticism often raised against Mrs. Clinton.

“These private email accounts become targets of phishing attacks or other types of ways of collecting information,” he said. “It’s an issue not only for the person who owns that account, but the person who is receiving the emails. It is introducing risk into the system.”

Richard W. Painter, a chief White House ethics lawyer under Mr. Bush who is now the vice chairman of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a watchdog group, said that there is often a “gray area” over what is considered official business. But, he said, “If it has anything to do with the president’s policy, including defending the president’s policy to the press, it’s very difficult to escape that being official.”

“I think Kushner was sloppy to do this,” he said. “I think Hillary was sloppy. I don’t think any of it was criminal.”

The private email accounts immediately triggered questions in Congress. Representative Trey Gowdy, Republican of South Carolina, who was among those who most vociferously criticized Mrs. Clinton’s email use, sent a letter to the White House and federal agencies asking about the Trump administration’s personal email use.

Representative Elijah E. Cummings, the senior Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, asked the White House to make sure that none of Mr. Kushner’s emails are deleted.

Mr. Cummings noted that Trump administration officials had previously said that senior White House officials did not use multiple email accounts. And he reminded the White House about the grilling that Mrs. Clinton received from congressional Republicans over her email practices.

Both political parties have fought for years over the use of private email accounts. Long before Mrs. Clinton’s emails were a campaign issue, Democrats criticized members of the George W. Bush administration for the practice.

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But, of course, according to our fellow FFF.net contributors, we are comparing apples and oranges.

SGG

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
She is keeping her head in her Rectum lately.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
At least mine works, how long does it take YOU to piss, old man?

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
At least mine works, how long does it take YOU to piss, old man?

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