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The social network says it is part of a way to prevent someone from posting the photos online as a form of revenge porn.
The pilot program is being tested in the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, and Canada.

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Facebook says once user sends the the image via Messenger, it will use technology to create a digital fingerprint or link of the picture.

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If the program works, it would mean that same naked picture will never show up on Facebook, even if a hacker or an ex tries to upload it.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
http://abc7chicago.com/technology/facebook-asking-for-nude-photos-to-p
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The social network says it is part of a way to prevent someone from posting the photos online as a form of revenge porn.
The pilot program is being tested in the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, and Canada.

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Uh-huh...

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Facebook says once user sends the the image via Messenger, it will use technology to create a digital fingerprint or link of the picture.

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Yes. This is absolutely possible to do with today's technology.

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If the program works, it would mean that same naked picture will never show up on Facebook, even if a hacker or an ex tries to upload it.

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Yes. This statement is true. It would also mean that you have to send a copy of every single picture that you would potentially want blocked ever to Facebook. Which means, assuming that your proclivity for taking selfie nudes or allowing somebody else to take digital snaps of you nude hasn't ended, you would also have to continue to upload new nude photos to Facebook frequently, and you'd also have to get any nude photos somebody else snapped with their phone and send those as well.



Here's a link to the actual fact page of the pilot program on Facebook: https://newsroom.fb.com/news/h/non-consensual-intimate-image-pilot-the
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For anybody who doesn't understand what the post is talking about when they say "hash", it is an alpha-numerical code that is essentially a thumbprint for an image. This could be an 8 digit code (CRC32) or even possibly a much larger code to more ensure the uniqueness of the photo (MD5,SHA1, etc.)

This would allow the ability of Facebook to ensure that the image is not re-uploaded without keeping the actual photo on their servers after the hash is made, but here are a few things to think about.

1. If ANY alterations are made to the photo, the hash check will be completely different, and altogether useless. (How easy is it to put a photo through a meme generator?)

2. Assuming Facebook doesn't want to be trolled hard core and have a ton of non-sexual images sent their way that would automatically be hashed and blocked, there would have to be some actual human being on the other end looking at all of these photos to ensure they are in fact nudes. (Unless they have some EXCELLENT tech in place to ensure these never leave with the employee and that they're hiring people who aren't tech savvy to work around this tech, those photos are very likely to end up on somebody's personal computers at home).

3. Ever heard of hacking before? Seriously, WTF? Remember Equifax?


I probably don't have to say this to anybody here, but DON'T DO THIS. Tell your friends. Tell your family. Especially tell your children. (I'm assuming that this program is not limited to 18+, and children would be allowed to send what is essentially child pornography to Facebook without parental consent).


Six months from now, whether it is on Facebook servers, or on the servers of people who hacked Facebook, there will be a database of every single person who sent in their nude photos. It will have the person's name, a picture of their face, and as many nudes as they've sent to Facebook on it. In some cases it might even have where they live if they provided this information to Facebook.


It's a strange new world we live in. I think it's time for parents to have a very uncomfortable talk with their children about taking nude photos of themselves and the potential it has to wreak havock on their lives.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
http://abc7chicago.com/technology/facebook-asking-for-nude-photos-to-p
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The social network says it is part of a way to prevent someone from posting the photos online as a form of revenge porn.
The pilot program is being tested in the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, and Canada.

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Uh-huh...

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Facebook says once user sends the the image via Messenger, it will use technology to create a digital fingerprint or link of the picture.

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Yes. This is absolutely possible to do with today's technology.

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If the program works, it would mean that same naked picture will never show up on Facebook, even if a hacker or an ex tries to upload it.

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Yes. This statement is true. It would also mean that you have to send a copy of every single picture that you would potentially want blocked ever to Facebook. Which means, assuming that your proclivity for taking selfie nudes or allowing somebody else to take digital snaps of you nude hasn't ended, you would also have to continue to upload new nude photos to Facebook frequently, and you'd also have to get any nude photos somebody else snapped with their phone and send those as well.



Here's a link to the actual fact page of the pilot program on Facebook: https://newsroom.fb.com/news/h/non-consensual-intimate-image-pilot-the
-facts/



For anybody who doesn't understand what the post is talking about when they say "hash", it is an alpha-numerical code that is essentially a thumbprint for an image. This could be an 8 digit code (CRC32) or even possibly a much larger code to more ensure the uniqueness of the photo (MD5,SHA1, etc.)

This would allow the ability of Facebook to ensure that the image is not re-uploaded without keeping the actual photo on their servers after the hash is made, but here are a few things to think about.

1. If ANY alterations are made to the photo, the hash check will be completely different, and altogether useless. (How easy is it to put a photo through a meme generator?)

2. Assuming Facebook doesn't want to be trolled hard core and have a ton of non-sexual images sent their way that would automatically be hashed and blocked, there would have to be some actual human being on the other end looking at all of these photos to ensure they are in fact nudes. (Unless they have some EXCELLENT tech in place to ensure these never leave with the employee and that they're hiring people who aren't tech savvy to work around this tech, those photos are very likely to end up on somebody's personal computers at home).

3. Ever heard of hacking before? Seriously, WTF? Remember Equifax?


I probably don't have to say this to anybody here, but DON'T DO THIS. Tell your friends. Tell your family. Especially tell your children. (I'm assuming that this program is not limited to 18+, and children would be allowed to send what is essentially child pornography to Facebook without parental consent).


Six months from now, whether it is on Facebook servers, or on the servers of people who hacked Facebook, there will be a database of every single person who sent in their nude photos. It will have the person's name, a picture of their face, and as many nudes as they've sent to Facebook on it. In some cases it might even have where they live if they provided this information to Facebook.


It's a strange new world we live in. I think it's time for parents to have a very uncomfortable talk with their children about taking nude photos of themselves and the potential it has to wreak havock on their lives.

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You can’t possibly believe this. Here’s you’re chance to say you know this is a joke or another ruskie hack, otherwise...

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Maybe it is fake.

That's pretty scary and another conversation altogether if it is.

If it's a fake cloned website that I just linked here, that means that somebody has created web pages that perfectly mimick Chicago ABC News' website and Facebook's website, and works in conjunction with them without a hitch.



In either case, this is one hell of a story.


Note that if this is real, 268,000 people liked this program so far on Facebook. (Bottom of 2nd link provided.)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Read what whole thing? You'll have to be more specific.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You're going to have to tell me what you're thinking. I have no clue where you're going with this.

EDITED TO ADD: The article was very short and did not say one way or another what the author or the news outlet thought about it.

Did you read anything Facebook has said about the program?

I have no idea where you're going with this. What do you think I'm not getting here, and what are your opinions on the matter other than just vague comments insulting my intelligence?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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No. It is not a good program.

I do understand it. Probably more than most.

Now we're in a realm that I happen to know a great deal about. Security, cyber security, images, hashes. I'm also extremely fluent in HR BS.

How about you either raise any specifics that I can knock down individually, or just STFU about it and do your friends and family a huge favor and don't tell them your opinion about it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Hey there. I'm a little curious about the ID format.
Is it like fingerprint classification, starting at the focal point and working the data evaluation outward? Or just digital cyphering? So cropping one pixel width of edge and renaming the image would defeat the security or ID function?

Also, how many months or weeks since Facebook had another data breach?

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Are you finally getting what this really is and now trying to walk back your original, ridiculous take?

Just in case... this is to facilitate the removal of images (typically nude) posted on FB without the consent of the subject. “Revenge posting,” is a common name. This is for images That Have Already Been Posted without the subjects consent, ones they wish to have removed, Not: “send us nude photos of yourself so we can make sure no one posts them.”
Plus: you have no freaking idea what FB’s algorithms check, so saying ‘removing a line of pixels’ would throw it off is pure BS. You constantly pull these sweeping generalizations out of nowhere, “most men think...” “that’s why teenagers are so messed up...” without having a Fucking Clue what you’re talking about.

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To be clear, people can already report if their intimate images have been shared on our platform without their consent, and we will remove and hash them to help prevent further sharing on our platform. With this new small pilot, we want to test an emergency option for people to provide a photo proactively to Facebook, so it never gets shared in the first place. This program is completely voluntary. It’s a protective measure that can help prevent a much worse scenario where an image is shared more widely. We look forward to getting feedback and learning.

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I'm waiting.

I see you posted several times on the other thread, and I know you checked this one too.

So no apology for insulting me either, huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You keep saying that, but the only "evidence" you've brought to the table to support that assertion was completely flawed to the core.

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You seemed to be doing just fine typing with your iPhone before.

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I'm waiting.

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You keep saying that, but the only "evidence" you've brought to the table to support that assertion was completely flawed to the core.

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Actually, you brought the evidence that showed your initial assessment to be close to the one you had about pizza gate - full of erroneous assumptions and seriously whacked.

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You seemed to be doing just fine typing with your iPhone before.

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Nope. I didn't lie. Typing with an iPhone is a pain. But do make up whatever shit you need to.

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I didn't - there was always a closed bracket - not sure what you did to break it. It seems like you have a lot of problems with computers lately. More when I have the time.

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