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I'm sure Mueller is personally keeping you in the loop. / sarcasm

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No he doesn't. It's all over the news in this country kiki. If you lived here you would know that. You see we have a free press. You should get out more. It's not healthy sitting in a building in St. Petersburg day and night.


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What is your definition of "Team Trump"?

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What would be your definition of "Team Hillary"? Anyone who supported Hillary including some random Ukrainian national living in the USA?

"Team Trump" would be anyone working for Trump's campaign committee, just like "Team Hillary" would be anyone working for Hillary's campaign committee. That should be obvious.

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If Hillary had Russian citizens who were paid $millions by Putin and working under false names within the USA to get Hillary elected, she would be in trouble with the law.

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I'm sure Mueller is personally keeping you in the loop. / sarcasm

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No he doesn't. It's all over the news in this country kiki. If you lived here you would know that. You see we have a free press. You should get out more. It's not healthy sitting in a building in St. Petersburg day and night.


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Yanno, I'm pretty tired of crazy people, sociopaths, and drunkards making things up and claiming that I have posted them.

Apparently, a lot of the people who are aghast about Trump have serious mental and/ or ethical issues with reality and honesty.

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Good grief, your delusions know no bounds. I still can't figure out what the hell is wrong with you people.

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That's a good question. Maybe it has to do with being - yanno - sociopaths who feed on hatred. Why let facts, reason, common sense, get in the way of a good hatred?

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OK, that was fun. Now enough distractions and diversions. 13 Russians and 3 Russian companies indicted by Mueller. Word is, many more to come.


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Everything going my way guys. Cry about it somewhere else. Everything I, G, SGG, Second, KPO, wishie and some others have been saying has been going on, is resulting in guilty pleas and indictments.

Add to that nothing, and I mean nothing you guys have been crying about has resulted in anything. No guilty pleas and no indictments. Why, no evidence. Love it...

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HEY, ALL OF YOU IDIOTS: If you click on my name, you will see that I've been here since 2002.

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Just a reminder to trolls - the trolling you do today - can be held against you years from now. Don't feel safe.

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"Yeah, we're right next to the pimps, whores and rapists.....#BIGAmericans, Woo Hoo!"
Actually, yes - you are. You like victimizing people. And for no reason other than you disagree with them. That's not much of a reason.


BTW - you may have missed my posts about an internet libeler's legal liability. You can be sued. And, in California, an ANONYMOUS website extends the statute of limitations beyond a year, up to indefinitely.

So I suggest you don't make it worth my while to go after you.

OTOH, if you can keep your discussions on-topic, civil, and most importantly - HONEST, we can get along just fine. Now, if being the stand-up guy you claim to be motivates you, you know, fighting the good fight for the right causes and so on - then being on-topic, civil, and most importantly - HONEST, should be no problem for you.

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Actually, I do have a question for you.

What are you trying to prove?

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What a fun day!

Indictment came today. All Russian names.

From second:

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment/russians-indict
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http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/mkt/5/1605/1603/internet_research
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA versus

Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin,
Mikhail Ivanovich Bystrov,
Mikhail Leonidovich Burchik
A/K/A Mikhail Abramov,
Aleksandra Yuryevna Krylova,
Anna Vladislavovna Bogacheva,
Sergey Pavlovich Polozov,
Maria Anatolyevna Bovda
A/K/A Maria Anatolyevna Belyaeva,
Robert Sergeyevich Bovda,
Dzheykhun Nasimi Ogly Aslanov
A/K/A Jayhoon Aslanov
A/K/A Jay Aslanov,
Vadim Vladimirovich Podkopaev,
Gleb Igorevich Vasilchenko,
Irina Viktorovna Kaverzina, and
Vladimir Venkov.

How funny (?) that the descriptions and details that Rosenstein & Co. used could have been lifted from any number of threads or honest posters on this forum, it was almost like word for word. I'm tempted to say "vindication b*tches" but I'll wait because I know it's going to just get better.

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If I wanted to proov sumthing, I woud spend a day examining your posts for the last few yirz and charting the various aspects uv support for the TrumPutin conspirasy. Hardly nesusery tho. Your pozition haz been clear to the key playerz here for yirz.

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"Gee, no, do please point out your intense brilliance." I was pointing out your incessant lying. But carry on thinking you can lie about everything.

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Trump is last stupid. It's called an investigation for a reason. This is how this one is unfolding. Witch hunt sig, nope, it's about the Russians. Trump can't stop it now. Even the republicans through Muellers actions are being forced to fall into line. It's that or look treasonous themselves.

It's also about conspiracy, it's about financial ties that leave Trump open to blackmail and even to committing acts of treason.

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I red the entire inditement.

Its a compliment to Joss Whedon that hiz show motivated this website and it got popular enuf to make it worth money to station sum trollz here.

Putin and hiz oligarks got more money than they coud spend in 1,000 lifetimez, so maybe theyd be willing to pay for a new seriez & more moviez!

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Good idea JO. No, great idea!!! For the show I mean and who should pay for it.

As for Russian trolls being here. Sig and kiki are of Polish decent. They've both posted that. Perhaps you remember? I believe their blood lines include Russian heritage. Sock puppet copped to this as well.

I think it's pride for the motherland that drives them and why they troll on behalf of Russia. And why if they do live here now are traitors to this country. I can understand pride in one's heritage but if they live here now, they should at least be fair in their judgements, even handed. They have been everything but.


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So, Facebook admits that the majority of ad Buys occurred AFTER the Election.

Before Election Day the MSM was reporting that Hilliary would win, and the activities were anti-Hilliary. The day after the Election, MSM reports Trump won, and all activities switch to Anti-Trump.

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You must have an IQ of 2. You always misinterpret the point of the story. Russia asshole, your spin can't change that. It's like after a debate and you feel like the spin artist was watching something else. And I say an IQ of 2 because you really suck at it.

A spin room, also known as spin row or spin alley, is an area in which reporters can speak with debate participants and/or their representatives after a debate. The name refers to the fact that the participants will attempt to "spin" or influence the perception of the debate among the assembled reporters.


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As for Russian trolls being here. Sig and kiki are of Polish decent. They've both posted that.

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I'm not much uv a historian, but I know that during WW2 Russia rounded up all the smart peepl they coud in Poland and massacred them.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Katyn-Massacre

Seemz like theyd hav good reazon to dislike Russia.

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Think Ukraine and the Russian migrants there and what happened. Think Georgia and the Russian migrants and what happened there when Bush was president. Poland is full of Russian communists. Kiki admitted her father was kicked out of Poland and England after that. It's no wonder after seeing how disloyal she is to the country that accepted her and her family. America

There were people who fought against communist servitude. Lech Walesa was born on September 29, 1943 in Popowo, Poland. After graduating from vocational school, he worked as a car mechanic at a machine center from 1961 to 1965. He served in the army for two years, rose to the rank of corporal, and in 1967 was employed in the Gdansk shipyards as an electrician. In 1969 he married Danuta Golos and they have eight children.

During the clash in December 1970 between the workers and the government, he was one of the leaders of the shipyard workers and was briefly detained. In 1976, however, as a result of his activities as a shop steward, he was fired and had to earn his living by taking temporary jobs.

In 1978 with other activists he began to organise free non-communist trade unions and took part in many actions on the sea coast. He was kept under surveillance by the state security service and frequently detained.

In August 1980 he led the Gdansk shipyard strike which gave rise to a wave of strikes over much of the country with Walesa seen as the leader. The primary demands were for workers' rights. The authorities were forced to capitulate and to negotiate with Walesa the Gdansk Agreement of August 31, 1980, which gave the workers the right to strike and to organise their own independent union.

The Catholic Church supported the movement, and in January 1981 Walesa was cordially received by Pope John Paul II in the Vatican. Walesa himself has always regarded his Catholicism as a source of strength and inspiration. In the years 1980-81 Walesa travelled to Italy, Japan, Sweden, France and Switzerland as guest of the International Labour Organisation. In September 1981 he was elected Solidarity Chairman at the First National Solidarity Congress in Gdansk.

The country's brief enjoyment of relative freedom ended in December 1981, when General Jaruzelski, fearing Soviet armed intervention among other considerations, imposed martial law, "suspended" Solidarity, arrested many of its leaders, and interned Walesa in a country house in a remote spot.



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KIKI, at this point I really think THUGR etc are really just trying to yank our chain, nobody could be THAT stupid! THUGR in particular insists on making defamatory and blatantly untrue statements (statements which can be PROVEN to be untrue) so he's just digging his hole deeper and deeper. Let him dig. And if the others want to follow him into that hole of total idiocy/ culpability, let them follow.

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KIKI, at this point I really think THUGR etc are really just trying to yank our chain, nobody could be THAT stupid! THUGR in particular insists on making defamatory and blatantly untrue statements (statements which can be PROVEN to be untrue) so he's just digging his hole deeper and deeper. Let him dig. And if the others want to follow him into that hole of total idiocy/ culpability, let them follow.

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Whatever. I don't care. He's an idiot who couldn't be bothered to google 'lawyer internet libel' and see that there are pages of lawyers doing a brisk business crushing libelers like him. That getting a lawyer is a matter of 'pick and chose', not some far-fetched fantasy.

I wasn't asking for him to swear to chastity and join Mother Teresa's Missionaries of Charity, and devote the rest of his life to good works.

I just wanted him - and others - TO STOP TROLLING. TO STOP BEING ASSHOLES.

How could that be so hard?

And now I hope he shits his pants every time he thinks about OTHER people - not his cohort of laughing hyenas - judging his history of posts.

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I just wanted him - and others - TO STOP TROLLING. TO STOP BEING ASSHOLES.
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This video answers your question better than I can Jack. Watch it, and if you think it is fake news than there is nothing further to discuss. This is about one aspect of the damage Trump is doing to America's foreign policy. This is a serious discussion by serious men.

Everything changed with these 13 Russian indictments. And it's far from being over. Not even close. Wiki leaks, the DNC hacking and then Trump. Now Jack, now everyone, now it begins.
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In Munich, Russian Amb. Kislyak won't answer meddling question]

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And now I hope he shits his pants every time he thinks about OTHER people - not his cohort of laughing hyenas - judging his history of posts.

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How long does it take a stupid person hearing something before they get it? Nothing about you or what you post scares me. I have said many times here what we post is out there on google, and it shows the truth of it.

It shows you always come to the aid of Russia. It shows you always criticize America. It shows you lie and spin the truth into fiction. It shows most of, and nearly all the shit you've posted and laid claim to, was proven wrong after time, time and time again.

It shows I've given you every opportunity to call out Putin on something, anything these past few years and you never did. Even G's lost threads debating you about Russia are out there. Someone with any kind of talent can retrieve them. It further shows everything I've been posting here is true, or is in the process of being proven true and better yet, right.

So kiki comrade troll, do you get it? This is the focus now, and with the investigation it only gets worse for you. The facts are winning the day, and that makes it impossible for you to spin a good face onto Russia. It makes it impossible for you and sig to move the focus off Russia. Think wiki leaks and indictments. Mueller is working from the outside in. Trump is experiencing this like a noose tightening slowly around his neck and it shows.

Come on, you must be a little impressed with Mueller. You must wish Russia could get their act together and work the way our democracy is working. Utilizing the rule of law. All the gripes of late by you sig and others about our democratic institutions being corrupt, now working together so well to expose an outside threat. And to then clean house the way we have begun to do. Come on admit it, you're a bit envious comrade aren't you?


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Historians and Scholars decide if a president is good or not Jack. Very educated people. Historians and Executive Branch experts. These experts, Democrat, Republican and Independent, together rated Trump dead last ( worst ever ). And you, you Jack, can't see for yourself any reason why. Any reason Jack.

The reasons for treating you like someone who's opinion should be respected are non existent Jack, non existent.
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How Does Trump Stack Up Against
the Best — and Worst — Presidents?

Overall rankings.
Presidents since World War II in boldface.
Presidents whose rank changed since last survey

0 = FAILURE
50 = AVERAGE
100 = GREAT
2014 RANK, CHANGE IN RANKING, UP OR DOWN, TOP 10 IN 2018
1. Lincoln 95
2. Washington 93
3. F.D. Roosevelt 89
4. T. Roosevelt 81
5. Jefferson 80
6. Truman 75
7. Eisenhower 74
8. Obama 71 8. Clinton –5
9. Reagan 69 9. Jackson –6
10. L.B. Johnson 69 10. Wilson –1
11. Wilson 67 11. Reagan +2
12. Madison 64 12. L.B. Johnson +2
13. Clinton 64 13. Madison +1
14. J. Adams 63 14. Kennedy –2
15. Jackson 62 15. J. Adams +1
16. Kennedy 62 16. Monroe –2
17. G.H.W. Bush 61
18. Monroe 61 18. Obama +10
19. McKinley 55 19. Polk –1
20. Polk 54 20. Taft –2
21. Grant 53 21. McKinley +2
22. Taft 52 22. J.Q. Adams –1
23. J.Q. Adams 52 23. Cleveland –1
24. Cleveland 51 24. Ford –1
25. Ford 47 25. Van Buren –2
26. Carter 45
27. Van Buren 44 27. Coolidge –1
28. Coolidge 42 28. Grant +7
29. Hayes 42 29. B. Harrison –3
30. G.W. Bush 40 30. Hayes +1
31. Arthur 40 31. Garfield –3
32. B. Harrison 38 32. Arthur +1
33. Nixon 37 33. Taylor –2
34. Garfield 37 34. Nixon +1
BOTTOM 10
35. Taylor 33 35. G.W. Bush +5
36. Hoover 33 36. Tyler –1
37. Tyler 31 37. Fillmore –1
38. Fillmore 28 38. Hoover +2
39. Harding 25 39. W.H. Harrison –3
40. A. Johnson 25 40. Pierce –1
41. Pierce 23 41. A. Johnson +1
42. W.H. Harrison 19 42. Harding +3
43. Buchanan 15
44. Trump 12

Methodology: Each expert was invited to rate each president on a 0-100 scale, with 0 = failure, 50 = average, and 100 = great. Scores were then averaged for each president, with presidents then ranked in order of highest average to lowest.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/19/opinion/how-does-
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Golly. EXPERTS!!

So how might history look upon Trump?

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Historians and Scholars decide if a president is good or not Jack. Very educated people. Historians and Executive Branch experts. These experts, Democrat, Republican and Independent, together rated Trump dead last ( worst ever ). And you, you Jack, can't see for yourself any reason why. Any reason Jack. Do you realize how stupid that makes you?

That video had very valid reasons why he is a bad president. All our foreign policy people were telling our allies at this summit, don't worry about Trump listen to us. Trump isn't forever. That's hundreds of our people at this summit Jack. Hundreds of our foreign policy experts. Including Trumps hand picked people. That video showed all our allies were calling Trump stupid and untrustworthy.

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When Lincoln took office in March 1861, he was entering a presidency he had won with only 39.8 percent of the popular vote. Reactions from the public were so negative that on the eve of his inauguration he had to be smuggled into the capital during the dead of night in a disguise. He was looked down upon for everything from his humble beginnings and lack of education to his awkward appearance and high voice. Even the commanding general of his armies, George McClellan, called him the “original gorilla.” (Gives a whole new meaning to to term “OG.”)

In 1861, Lincoln inherited a nation in crisis. With the United States on the brink of civil war, the American public was on edge and blamed Lincoln for everything going wrong in the country. Of course, Southerners hated him for trying to change the way of life they’d known for years. They resented him for trying to abolish slavery and declared their secession from the Union on February 4, 1861. But Northerners weren’t fond of him either, unimpressed with his slow start at the presidency. They expected him to being doing more and to be doing it sooner.

People even hated his speeches. The Gettysburg Address—now revered as one of the greatest speeches of all time and memorized by school children across the nation—was panned by many. One Chicago Times writer said: “The cheek of every American must tingle with shame as he reads the silly flat dishwatery utterances of a man who has to be pointed out to intelligent foreigners as the President of the United States.” Ouch.

Lincoln’s wife, Mary Todd Lincoln, said the constant deluge of insults wore on the president’s feelings, and Lincoln himself reportedly said, “I would rather be dead than, as President, thus abused in the house of my friends.”

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In February 1952, Gallup polls placed President Harry S. Truman's approval mark at 22%, one of the lowest-ever ratings for an active American president, only matched by Richard Nixon in 1974.
Essentially, Truman’s unpopularity mostly stemmed from the pressures placed on his Presidency by the Cold War with the Soviet Union and the ‘hot’ war in Korea. Among American voters, these played out as discontent with the conduct of the war, fears about communist influence, anger about industrial disputes, added to perceived corruption and nepotism.

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To many voters, the presidential candidates of 1824 were a lackluster, squabbling batch of what we’d today call Washington insiders. Known as “Old Hickory,” Jackson was the exception—the humble boy veteran of the Revolution and heroic victor at the Battle of New Orleans in the War of 1812, who had proved his mettle and virtue against the British and Indians alike... Supporters assured voters that the general’s natural talents far outshone the specious, elite distinctions of his chief competitor, John Quincy Adams—the son of a president, raised in royal capitals, who’d been a member of Phi Beta Kappa, a Harvard professor and secretary of state. [SOUND FAMILIAR?]

“The Majesty of the People had disappeared,” she shuddered. “A rabble, a mob, of boys, negroes, women, children, scrambling fighting, romping …. The whole [White House] had been inundated by the rabble mob.”

... Jackson’s conduct in office made official Washington no happier. Mrs. Smith’s husband was president of the Washington branch of the Bank of the United States (a rough counterpart of today’s Federal Reserve), and eventually lost his job when Jackson attacked it. Many of his friends held high appointments in the Adams administration and rightly worried over Jackson’s policy of “rotation in office.” Proclaiming that no one owned an office for life and that “men of intelligence may readily qualify themselves” for government service, the president began to “reform” the government by replacing experienced Adams men with loyal Jacksonians. His policy evolved into the spoils system, in which politics outweighed other qualifications in filling the civil service.

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