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Originally posted by second:
Let’s recap the Republican proposals so far to reduce school gun massacres:

Arm teachers with handguns.

Turn our schools into hardened bunkers.

Stun grenades in every classroom.

More police officers patrolling the halls at all times.

Loosen gun laws so that more people in public are armed.

I could respect an argument that says gun rights are so important that it’s worth protecting them even at the price of more mass slaughters. But the Republican proposals are flat-out lunacy.

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Originally posted by second:
Let’s recap the Republican proposals so far to reduce school gun massacres:

Arm teachers with handguns.

Turn our schools into hardened bunkers.

Stun grenades in every classroom.

More police officers patrolling the halls at all times.

Loosen gun laws so that more people in public are armed.

I could respect an argument that says gun rights are so important that it’s worth protecting them even at the price of more mass slaughters. But the Republican proposals are flat-out lunacy.

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For the record, I don't support any of those measures.

Either that's yet another example of why I'm not a Republican or #NotAllRepublicans.

Pick one.

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Originally posted by second:
Let’s recap the Republican proposals so far to reduce school gun massacres:

Arm teachers with handguns.

Turn our schools into hardened bunkers.

Stun grenades in every classroom.

More police officers patrolling the halls at all times.

Loosen gun laws so that more people in public are armed.

I could respect an argument that says gun rights are so important that it’s worth protecting them even at the price of more mass slaughters. But the Republican proposals are flat-out lunacy.

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For the record, I don't support any of those measures.

Either that's yet another example of why I'm not a Republican or #NotAllRepublicans.

Pick one.

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I think all those Republican proposals for reducing gun massacres are excellent, if the GOP were willing to pay the price. But every one of the proposals are state and local initiatives, with all costs paid locally. It is a smokescreen for GOP inaction on the national level. Delay long enough and the problem will go away. Soon enough, the Massacre will be forgotten. What was the name of that school? Marjory Stoneman Douglas or Mary Stone Davis or was it . . . ? When did this happen? What state . . . ?

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Parkland student Emma Gonzalez has more followers than NRA days after joining Twitter

A high school senior who survived the mass shooting at Majory Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida two weeks ago now has nearly twice as many followers on Twitter as the National Rifle Association.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/parkland-student-emma-gonzalez-has-m
ore-followers-than-nra-days-after-joining-twitter/ar-BBJCIyW?ocid=spartanntp

Try a new source rappy. The one you're using isn't quite right in the head.

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Originally posted by second:
Let’s recap the Republican proposals so far to reduce school gun massacres:

Arm teachers with handguns.

Turn our schools into hardened bunkers.

Stun grenades in every classroom.

More police officers patrolling the halls at all times.

Loosen gun laws so that more people in public are armed.

I could respect an argument that says gun rights are so important that it’s worth protecting them even at the price of more mass slaughters. But the Republican proposals are flat-out lunacy.

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For the record, I don't support any of those measures.

Either that's yet another example of why I'm not a Republican or #NotAllRepublicans.

Pick one.

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I think all those Republican proposals for reducing gun massacres are excellent, if the GOP were willing to pay the price. But every one of the proposals are state and local initiatives, with all costs paid locally. It is a smokescreen for GOP inaction on the national level. Delay long enough and the problem will go away. Soon enough, the Massacre will be forgotten. What was the name of that school? Marjory Stoneman Douglas or Mary Stone Davis or was it . . . ? When did this happen? What state . . . ?

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You think they're excellent???

You literally just said they are flat out lunacy. A point that I agreed with.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Trump got his wish. Death Wish, the movie, this Friday at a theater near you. Bring your AR-15 to get free popcorn and a large drink!

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Originally posted by second:
Let’s recap the Republican proposals so far to reduce school gun massacres:

Arm teachers with handguns.

Turn our schools into hardened bunkers.

Stun grenades in every classroom.

More police officers patrolling the halls at all times.

Loosen gun laws so that more people in public are armed.

I could respect an argument that says gun rights are so important that it’s worth protecting them even at the price of more mass slaughters. But the Republican proposals are flat-out lunacy.

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For the record, I don't support any of those measures.

Either that's yet another example of why I'm not a Republican or #NotAllRepublicans.

Pick one.

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I think all those Republican proposals for reducing gun massacres are excellent, if the GOP were willing to pay the price. But every one of the proposals are state and local initiatives, with all costs paid locally. It is a smokescreen for GOP inaction on the national level. Delay long enough and the problem will go away. Soon enough, the Massacre will be forgotten. What was the name of that school? Marjory Stoneman Douglas or Mary Stone Davis or was it . . . ? When did this happen? What state . . . ?

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You think they're excellent???

You literally just said they are flat out lunacy. A point that I agreed with.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Those suggestions can't be lunacy because all of them came from wise old men of the GOP.

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Na, na, na...

I'm calling you out now. You've given two antithetical statements in one day about the same issue.

No bullshit. Where do you stand on the issue?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I own guns and rifles. Is it hypocritical for me to think other people should have less than me? Yes, it is. How much less? Copy the laws from some other nation, maybe Canada.

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One gun law I would pass is that anyone, including Trump and Florida politicians, who says they would rush into a building where there was gunfire even if they were not armed is that they have to do just that. It is ridiculous to expect Paul Blart: Mal Cop to save students from assassination. It is very heroic if Blart does, but Trump and the Florida GOP politicians are evil to demand that from anyone but a SWAT team.

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I own guns and rifles. Is it hypocritical for me to think other people should have less than me? Yes, it is. How much less? Copy the laws from some other nation, maybe Canada.

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I don't know exactly what you mean here. Are you saying that you should also have less than you do?

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meanwhile, in actual real stories, good guys( and gals ) w/ a gun save lives, all the damn time.

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Trump signed a bill making it easier for people with mental illness to buy guns.

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Just some more anti-gun, SJW liberal rubbish.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Good morning, you braying 6ixJackass. Trump signed a bill making it easier for people with mental illness to buy guns.

On February 28, 2017, Trump signed a law revoking an Obama-era regulatory initiative that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy a gun.

Yet despite this effort to roll back even a very modest effort to restrain the ability of seriously incapacitated people from obtaining deadly weapons, this morning Trump tweeted that there were “so many signs that the Florida shooter was mentally disturbed,” implying that someone should have done something to report him.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

So many signs that the Florida shooter was mentally disturbed, even expelled from school for bad and erratic behavior. Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities, again and again!
6:12 AM - Feb 15, 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/964110212885106689

It’s Trump’s party — and Trump himself — who have consistently prevented the federal government from doing anything about this kind of situation. And 6ixStringJack with his: "Just some more anti-gun, SJW liberal rubbish."

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-c
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Originally posted by second:
Let’s recap the Republican proposals so far to reduce school gun massacres:

Arm teachers with handguns.

Turn our schools into hardened bunkers.

Stun grenades in every classroom.

More police officers patrolling the halls at all times.

Loosen gun laws so that more people in public are armed.

I could respect an argument that says gun rights are so important that it’s worth protecting them even at the price of more mass slaughters. But the Republican proposals are flat-out lunacy.

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For the record, I don't support any of those measures.

Either that's yet another example of why I'm not a Republican or #NotAllRepublicans.

Pick one.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Parkland student Emma Gonzalez has more followers than NRA days after joining Twitter

A high school senior who survived the mass shooting at Majory Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida two weeks ago now has nearly twice as many followers on Twitter as the National Rifle Association.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/parkland-student-emma-gonzalez-has-m
ore-followers-than-nra-days-after-joining-twitter/ar-BBJCIyW?ocid=spartanntp

Try a new source rappy. The one you're using isn't quite right in the head.


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meanwhile, in actual real stories, good guys( and gals ) w/ a gun save lives, all the damn time.

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Except at Parkland... or Newtown... or Las Vegas... or Orlando... or Blacksburg... or Sutherland, TX... or Killeen... or Austin... or... see a pattern? The deadliest mass shootings in US History and where were the good guys? Shooters don't wait or they aren't that stupid. We are the most well armed society on the planet but the only guns that matter are the ones the shooters have.

https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/us/20-deadliest-mass-shootings-in-u-s-h
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I see. So now that you're personal circumstances and tastes have changed and it wouldn't put you out, you have no problem with it.

At least that's only half-hypocritical.

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I'm ignoring the second half of the post since it's irrelevant to the conversation and the same could be said of many Democrats, Independents, Communists, Nazis, and those who eschew politics altogether.

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The editorial says that guns are a cultural signifier for Democrats vs Republicans. Not that I matter, but guns are for killing deer and people and I place all the emphasis on the "killing" word. I understand the stunted thinking of voters who own guns as signifiers of "freedom" and "protection", but that isn't thinking clearly. When you own a gun, you have not purchased "freedom" and "protection". You only purchased "killing".

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Obviously, if you are an incompetent shooter when under pressure, all you purchased is "wounding" or "missing" your targeted kill, human or deer. You only bought yourself a noise machine, a boom stick. That is why the AR-15 was invented: it makes incompetent shooters into killers by the mathematical probability of killing when many, many rounds are fired randomly. The AR-15 was never engineered to bring "freedom" and "protection". It is plainly only about "killing".

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The editorial says that guns are a cultural signifier for Democrats vs Republicans. Not that I matter, but guns are for killing deer and people and I place all the emphasis on the "killing" word. I understand the stunted thinking of voters who own guns as signifiers of "freedom" and "protection", but that isn't thinking clearly. When you own a gun, you have not purchased "freedom" and "protection". You only purchased "killing".

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Read a history book. The "freedom" that you and I enjoy at one time required a lot of killing. Call me a pessimist, but I don't believe that is set in stone forever. Neither did the people who wrote what GWB called "That Goddamned Piece of Paper".

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The editorial says that guns are a cultural signifier for Democrats vs Republicans. Not that I matter, but guns are for killing deer and people and I place all the emphasis on the "killing" word. I understand the stunted thinking of voters who own guns as signifiers of "freedom" and "protection", but that isn't thinking clearly. When you own a gun, you have not purchased "freedom" and "protection". You only purchased "killing".

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Read a history book. The "freedom" that you and I enjoy at one time required a lot of killing. Call me a pessimist, but I don't believe that is set in stone forever. Neither did the people who wrote what GWB called "That Goddamned Piece of Paper".

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I did read a history book: Lincoln freed the slaves at the cost of 785,000–1,000,000+ dead. The Parliament of the United Kingdom freed the slaves and death toll was zero. Do you see the difference when guns are used to bring "freedom"? Guns are for killing, not for bringing "freedom".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

A nice story. Too bad it's a fairy tale.

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A nice story. Too bad it's a fairy tale.

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Is it a fairy tale that the American Civil War was fought with guns and the death toll was a million? Or is it a fairy tale that the Parliament of the United Kingdom purchased the slaves rather than kill with guns the owners? The Slavery Abolition Act compensated slave-owners. The amount of money to be spent on the compensation claims was set at "the Sum of Twenty Million Pounds Sterling". In 1833, £20 million amounted to approximately 5% of the British GDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833

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I didn't know this second. Very enlightening post. The fact that Jack thinks you're lying, and says so without researching it for himself, further proves what we claim to be true about him. Troll...dummy...



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A nice story. Too bad it's a fairy tale.

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Is it a fairy tale that the American Civil War was fought with guns and the death toll was a million? Or is it a fairy tale that the Parliament of the United Kingdom purchased the slaves rather than kill with guns the owners? The Slavery Abolition Act compensated slave-owners. The amount of money to be spent on the compensation claims was set at "the Sum of Twenty Million Pounds Sterling". In 1833, £20 million amounted to approximately 5% of the British GDP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833

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I didn't know this second. Very enlightening post. The fact that Jack thinks you're lying, and says so without researching it for himself, further proves what we claim to be true about him. Troll...dummy...

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I lived all my life in the South and I know what makes Southerners tick, why they own guns, what goes on inside their heads. It's not pretty and it makes them Republicans.

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I lived all my life in the South and I know what makes Southerners tick, why they own guns, what goes on inside their heads. It's not pretty and it makes them Republicans.

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I want this stitched onto a nice throw pillow.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Please, stop ! The propaganda and dirt collecting arm of the DNC has ZERO credibility.


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If you put this all together, it suggests that restrictive laws seem to lead to fewer gun deaths, while the permissive laws seem to lead to more gun deaths.

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Pass all the laws you want, conduct as many studies as your money can fund, it doesn't matter 1 damn bit if law enforcement refuses, ( I suspect intentionally so ) to follow up and react to overt red flags like we had in Parkland, and other shootings.

Guns aren't going anywhere, as there'll never be a repeal of the 2nd Amendment.

" shall not be infringed "

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Chicago says " hi ! " .

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Stitch this: “I like taking the guns early. Take the guns first, go through due process second.” -Trump

How 'bout you put this on a t-shirt:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/he-disarmed-possible-church-shoot
er-then-police-arrived-shot-him-n851816?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

He disarmed a possible church shooter — then the police arrived and shot him
by TIM STELLOH

"Tony Garces was still reeling from his injuries on Tuesday, nearly two weeks after he disarmed a possible church shooter in Amarillo, Texas — and was then shot by police.

Speaking to NBC News by phone from his hospital room at Heart Hospital of Northwest Texas, Garces, 54, said that he was admitted to the emergency room on Monday with a blood clot in his lung.

On the morning of Feb. 14 — the same day as the Florida school shooting that killed 17 kids and teachers — Garces wrestled a handgun away from a man who had entered the chapel at Faith City Mission and threatened to hold church attendees hostage."

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