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NSA Whistleblower Accuses Agency Of "Mass Electronic Surveillance"

While former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney was burnishing his credentials as a master of the corporate turnaround during the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, US intelligence agencies were testing out their capabilities for mass electronic surveillance according to a recent Associated Press report*. [4]Ex-NSA spy Thomas Drake has alleged as much in a statement filed in support of a lawsuit brought by former Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson. Anderson has said that the lawsuit is designed to get more information about what he calls covert, illegal operations.

* http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OLYMPICS_NSA_LAWSUIT?SITE=AP
&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-06-02-20-04-38


In March, Wikileaks released “Vault 7,” [7] a collection of thousands of documents demonstrating the extent to which the CIA uses backdoors to hack smartphones, computer operating systems, messenger applications and internet-connected televisions.
An intelligence source quoted by WSJ *[8] said that Wikileaks revelations “were far more significant than the leaks of Edward Snowden."

* https://www.wsj.com/articles/wikileaks-posts-thousands-of-purported-ci
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Thomas Drake, a former NSA senior executive who revealed the agency’s invasive surveillance and reckless spending in 2006, believes the data center is almost certainly not focused on metadata. “I can put the metadata of the world in one room,” he said.

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Since its groundbreaking in 2011, analysts have estimated that the data center will have a data storage capacity of anywhere from exabytes to yottabytes. That’s a huge range: An exabyte is a billion gigabytes; a yottabyte is a million of those exabytes. The discrepancy stems from the simple fact that so little is known about the agency or its technological capabilities to process the intelligence gathered by hundreds of classified programs around the world.

The program revealed by Snowden in early June, known as PRISM, collects information from nine major American Internet companies: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple. According to one top secret NSA slide about the program, it collects emails, chats, videos, logins, file transfers stored data, and “special requests” for further information made by the agency through warrants from the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
Beginning in September 2013, when the Utah Data Center is scheduled to be completed, this information, along with that harvested directly from fibreoptic and transcontinental submarine cables through a program known as FAIRVIEW, will all be likely be routed to the Utah Data Center. Based on interviews the Daily Dot has conducted with two NSA whistleblowers over the past two months, these programs appear to be as comprehensive as technologically possible. According to Mark Klein, the former AT&T computer network associate who blew on the NSA when it installed splitters directly into the company’s Internet cables, “What I know of the splitters is that they get everything.”

“They have established the technological infrastructure to spy on everyone,” Klein said.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
from THUGGER's LINK

Officials familiar with the matter said that the committee’s requests focused on the identities of U.S. organizations that had been hacked by the Russians in 2016. Officials declined to say how many of the requests came from Democrats vs. Republicans.

A spokesman for Republicans on Nunes’s committee declined to comment on whether the panel made any requests for unmasking.

He added, “It is standard operating procedure for the House Intelligence Committee to forward all committee members’ questions from both parties to the appropriate agencies, whether or not they are answered. I refer you to committee Democrats for further questions on this subject.”

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I did a little rifling around your links, to see if I could locate a complete document, or at least more of it. I didn't come up with anything. That's about as far as I got.

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I appears to be. Thank you very much.

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Interesting server it came off of.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Not 'some unnamed sources', not ' some partisan blogger on the inter webs ' , but the bastion of hard core conservative ...

Describing them as “serious constitutional abuses,” a Circa report has revealed that previously top secret documents show that President Barack Obama spied on Americans for years.

The National Security Agency (NSA), according to the report, “routinely violated American privacy protections” and “failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president.”

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) claim these newly disclosed violations rank as some of the most serious to ever be documented.



http://thepoliticalinsider.com/classified-documents-obama-spying-years/




All those alleged infringements the media screamed about George W Bush having done, could have , MIGHT have done... Obama actually did , and far worse.


That puts the total to about 15 things Obama SHOULD have been impeached over, but wasn't.

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however, zerohedge ran an article with links to other news sources

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NSA Whistleblower Accuses Agency Of "Mass Electronic Surveillance"

While former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney was burnishing his credentials as a master of the corporate turnaround during the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, US intelligence agencies were testing out their capabilities for mass electronic surveillance according to a recent Associated Press report*. [4]Ex-NSA spy Thomas Drake has alleged as much in a statement filed in support of a lawsuit brought by former Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson. Anderson has said that the lawsuit is designed to get more information about what he calls covert, illegal operations.

* http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OLYMPICS_NSA_LAWSUIT?SITE=AP
&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-06-02-20-04-38


In March, Wikileaks released “Vault 7,” [7] a collection of thousands of documents demonstrating the extent to which the CIA uses backdoors to hack smartphones, computer operating systems, messenger applications and internet-connected televisions.
An intelligence source quoted by WSJ *[8] said that Wikileaks revelations “were far more significant than the leaks of Edward Snowden."

* https://www.wsj.com/articles/wikileaks-posts-thousands-of-purported-ci
a-cyberhacking-documents-1488905823

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In fact, these people are PAID to lie. They will happily lie, and lie, and lie... under oath. I doubt we'll ever get the truth out of any of them about anything. It's never happened in my memory, anyway.

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One of the things that people keep overlooking, which backs up the many claims that the NSA is spying on EVERYONE (per Snowden, Drake, Binney, Weibe, Crane, and others)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/06/16/snowden-whistl
eblower-nsa-officials-roundtable/2428809/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/22/how-pentagon-punished-
nsa-whistleblowers

... is the MASSIVE DATA CENTER IN UTAH, which was completed in 2103, has the capacity to hold somewhere between exabytes to yottabytes of data. This is a little hard to put in perspective, but the data center can hold either ALL of the information ... a complete electronic record ... of from 13 million people to 13 BILLION people .... more people than have ever been alive in the whole world.

Whatever the actual storage, it is NOT... repeat NOT .... just "metadata" (information about information) but actual detailed content of a person's emails, credit-card purchases, phone calls, google searches, online postings, investments, health records ... anything at all that creates an electronic footprint.

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Thomas Drake, a former NSA senior executive who revealed the agency’s invasive surveillance and reckless spending in 2006, believes the data center is almost certainly not focused on metadata. “I can put the metadata of the world in one room,” he said.

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NO MATTER WHAT THE FBI, CIA, NSA, OR THE WHITE HOUSE SAY ABOUT OUR SECURITY STATE'S CAREFUL ADHERENCE TO PRIVACY RULES AND THEIR OBEISANCE TO THE FISA COURT, YOU CAN BE SURE THAT THEY ARE LYING.

Their infrastructure tells me so.

In fact, these people are PAID to lie. They will happily lie, and lie, and lie... under oath. I doubt we'll ever get the truth out of any of them about anything. It's never happened in my memory, anyway.

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Since its groundbreaking in 2011, analysts have estimated that the data center will have a data storage capacity of anywhere from exabytes to yottabytes. That’s a huge range: An exabyte is a billion gigabytes; a yottabyte is a million of those exabytes. The discrepancy stems from the simple fact that so little is known about the agency or its technological capabilities to process the intelligence gathered by hundreds of classified programs around the world.

The program revealed by Snowden in early June, known as PRISM, collects information from nine major American Internet companies: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple. According to one top secret NSA slide about the program, it collects emails, chats, videos, logins, file transfers stored data, and “special requests” for further information made by the agency through warrants from the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
Beginning in September 2013, when the Utah Data Center is scheduled to be completed, this information, along with that harvested directly from fibreoptic and transcontinental submarine cables through a program known as FAIRVIEW, will all be likely be routed to the Utah Data Center. Based on interviews the Daily Dot has conducted with two NSA whistleblowers over the past two months, these programs appear to be as comprehensive as technologically possible. According to Mark Klein, the former AT&T computer network associate who blew on the NSA when it installed splitters directly into the company’s Internet cables, “What I know of the splitters is that they get everything.”

“They have established the technological infrastructure to spy on everyone,” Klein said.

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https://www.dailydot.com/news/nsa-utah-data-center-capacity-surveillan
ce-storage/

Now, we can quibble about whether they can spy on 13 million people or 13 billion people or some number in-between, but the reality is that the snooping and storage infrastructure is far, FAR beyond anything that would ever be legally authorized in anyone's wildest scenario.

That, combined with the cooperative agreements that our security state has with the other anglophone security states (USA, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand; altogether making up the "five eyes") and Germany means that the ability to snoop on average everyday citizens (and potential activists) is unparalleled and almost unimaginable.

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As we have seen in Germany, the UK, and France, snooping on millions of people is a very ineffective way to stop terror attacks. as RAPPY posted, there are tens of thousands of people on one "watch list" or another.

The one thing that this list IS very good at is compromising anyone who dares to confront the security state.

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THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one

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So, the truth is "they will lie, lie, lie!"
So, I'm confused....are we NOT to believe this story, or posting is true. It's all based on lies.....is it not. - SHH

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not 'some unnamed sources', not ' some partisan blogger on the inter webs ' , but the bastion of hard core conservative ...

Describing them as “serious constitutional abuses,” a Circa report has revealed that previously top secret documents show that President Barack Obama spied on Americans for years.

The National Security Agency (NSA), according to the report, “routinely violated American privacy protections” and “failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president.”

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) claim these newly disclosed violations rank as some of the most serious to ever be documented.

http://thepoliticalinsider.com/classified-documents-obama-spying-years/

All those alleged infringements the media screamed about George W Bush having done, could have , MIGHT have done... Obama actually did , and far worse.

That puts the total to about 15 things Obama SHOULD have been impeached over, but wasn't.

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Okay, forget the fact that you just posted comments using the lefty leaning ACLU. Wouldn't that qualify as high treason in your neck of the woods, meaning the far right conservatives. I don't get it, aren't they persona non grata!

That "bastion of hard core conservative" wouldn't be the "Political Insider" would it? Aren't they a newsletter about conservative U.S. political issues (meaning they lean towards the right) which is produced by a marketing firm in Alexandria, Virginia?

So it's no surprise that they would be more than willing to criticize Obama and blame him for all the ills facing our country, even today, well into Trump's regime, er, I mean administration. My only other question is "What about Hillary?"
Where's her blame in all of this? You guys are slipping.

Then there's the FISA Court. Aren't they the ones you guys say were duped by the FBI? Which would mean that they are incompetent and incapable of managing the surveillance of bad guys. So, why believe them now?

And, of course, Bush did nothing wrong.

This post is extremely interesting.

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Okay, forget the fact that you just posted comments using the lefty leaning ACLU. Wouldn't that qualify as high treason in your neck of the woods, meaning the far right conservatives. I don't get it, aren't they persona non grata!

That "bastion of hard core conservative" wouldn't be the "Political Insider" would it? Aren't they a newsletter about conservative U.S. political issues (meaning they lean towards the right) which is produced by a marketing firm in Alexandria, Virginia?

So it's no surprise that they would be more than willing to criticize Obama and blame him for all the ills facing our country, even today, well into Trump's regime, er, I mean administration. My only other question is "What about Hillary?"
Where's her blame in all of this? You guys are slipping.

Then there's the FISA Court. Aren't they the ones you guys say were duped by the FBI? Which would mean that they are incompetent and incapable of managing the surveillance of bad guys. So, why believe them now?

And, of course, Bush did nothing wrong.

This post is extremely interesting.


SGG

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Not 'some unnamed sources', not ' some partisan blogger on the inter webs ' , but the bastion of hard core conservative ...

Describing them as “serious constitutional abuses,” a Circa report has revealed that previously top secret documents show that President Barack Obama spied on Americans for years.

The National Security Agency (NSA), according to the report, “routinely violated American privacy protections” and “failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president.”

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) claim these newly disclosed violations rank as some of the most serious to ever be documented.


http://thepoliticalinsider.com/classified-documents-obama-spying-years/


All those alleged infringements the media screamed about George W Bush having done, could have , MIGHT have done... Obama actually did , and far worse.


That puts the total to about 15 things Obama SHOULD have been impeached over, but wasn't.

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So, the truth is "they will lie, lie, lie!"
So, I'm confused....are we NOT to believe this story, or posting is true. It's all based on lies.....is it not. - SHH

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Dood. why would anyone out themselves from a very cozy (and dangerous) cabal, give up their job, home, girlfriend, and family, just to lie?

When people get tired of lying they become whistleblowers. And whistleblowers may be mistaken, but they generally don't lie. There have been quite a few of them who've gone to prison, suffered professionally and personally to bring you formerly hidden information. Maybe you should understand that sacrifice a little bit more, instead of pretending to be "confused".

That massive data center? You don't have to take anyone's word for it. Go out to Utah and take a picture of it, if you're so doubtful.

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