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The US is sabre rattling --- again. The question is, will the US people fall for it --- again.
Monday, April 30, 2018 5:34 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Friday, May 11, 2018 5:40 AM
Friday, May 11, 2018 11:17 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Over the last few months we've been treated to a veritable roulette wheel of countries we need to fight - IRAN! NUKES! BALKANS! COLOR REVOLUTIONS AGAINST DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADERS! CHINA! SOUTH CHINA SEA! DJIBOUTI! NK! NUKES! MISSILES! TURKEY! FRIENDS WITH RUSSIA (btw, we are to expect a coup in Turkey anytime soon) RUSSIA !!!! SKRIPAL!!! DOUMA !!! FUTURE CYBERATTACK!! and BECAUSE! This has taken stoking the American public for war to a whole new level. Back when, my neck just about broke trying to track dubya's - and Americans' - reversal on bin Laden and pivot to Iraq. Now we have a half-dozen enemies and we've been propagandized into supporting a war with any one of them, or more than one, on a moments notice. But at least we've got Israel doing our military dirty work in SYRIA!!!! GO ISRAEL!!!!
Friday, May 11, 2018 11:51 AM
Friday, May 11, 2018 1:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "I haven't heard anyone suggest we go to war with: China, Russia, or Turkey." You're responding to things I didn't post. Where did I say we're being stoked for war by being TOLD we're going to go to war? Anywhere? Find it. FETCH BOY!!!
Friday, May 11, 2018 3:46 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:"I haven't heard anyone suggest we go to war with: China, Russia, or Turkey."- GSTRING You're responding to things I didn't post. Where did I say we're being stoked for war by being TOLD we're going to go to war? Anywhere? Find it. FETCH BOY!!!- KIKI Ummmm....really, Kookie? You posted: "Over the last few months we've been treated to a veritable roulette wheel of countries we need to fight - IRAN! NUKES! BALKANS! COLOR REVOLUTIONS AGAINST DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADERS! CHINA! SOUTH CHINA SEA! DJIBOUTI! NK! NUKES! MISSILES! TURKEY! FRIENDS WITH RUSSIA (btw, we are to expect a coup in Turkey anytime soon) RUSSIA !!!! SKRIPAL!!! DOUMA !!! FUTURE CYBERATTACK!! and BECAUSE! This has taken stoking the American public for war to a whole new level."- KIKI
Friday, May 11, 2018 8:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:"I haven't heard anyone suggest we go to war with: China, Russia, or Turkey."- GSTRING You're responding to things I didn't post. Where did I say we're being stoked for war by being TOLD we're going to go to war? Anywhere? Find it. FETCH BOY!!!- KIKI Ummmm....really, Kookie? You posted: "Over the last few months we've been treated to a veritable roulette wheel of countries we need to fight - IRAN! NUKES! BALKANS! COLOR REVOLUTIONS AGAINST DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADERS! CHINA! SOUTH CHINA SEA! DJIBOUTI! NK! NUKES! MISSILES! TURKEY! FRIENDS WITH RUSSIA (btw, we are to expect a coup in Turkey anytime soon) RUSSIA !!!! SKRIPAL!!! DOUMA !!! FUTURE CYBERATTACK!! and BECAUSE! This has taken stoking the American public for war to a whole new level."- KIKI So, anywhere in those quotes telling us we're going to war with any of these nations? No?
Friday, May 11, 2018 11:56 PM
Saturday, May 12, 2018 9:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: GEEBERS, When it comes to you repeatedly misrepresenting my posts, I have to ask - Did your reading comprehension suddenly fail on a very simple statement, did your Alzheimer's kick in, or are you constitutionally incapable of honesty? As I clearly mentioned before, they don't SAY we're going to go to war. Instead, we get our roulette wheel of hate every day in the media, just like the two minutes of hate in "1984". We get it drummed into us that "we need to hate ______________ (fill in the blank) because _________________ (fill in the blank)". And we need to 'impose sanctions', or we have a 'right to protect', or we will 'send troops' or 'send equipment' or 'train forces' or 'deploy destroyers', or some such. But certainly not 'wage war'. And I already posted enough examples of our roulette wheel from recent weeks. But if your memory is failing, let me refresh it for you: IRAN! NUKES! BALKANS! COLOR REVOLUTIONS AGAINST DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADERS! CHINA! SOUTH CHINA SEA! DJIBOUTI! NK! NUKES! MISSILES! TURKEY! FRIENDS WITH RUSSIA (btw, we are to expect a coup in Turkey anytime soon) RUSSIA !!!! SKRIPAL!!! DOUMA !!! FUTURE CYBERATTACK!! and BECAUSE!
Sunday, May 13, 2018 2:25 PM
Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:31 PM
Quote:The whole world loses because nuclear proliferation is a disaster waiting to happen and Iran will now have a strong incentive to proceed with a weapons program to defend itself from Israel and the United States. If Iran does so, it will trigger a regional nuclear arms race with Saudi Arabia and Egypt undoubtedly seeking weapons of their own. Iran and the Iranian people will lose because their suffering economy will not now benefit from the lifting of sanctions and other economic inducements that convinced it to sign the agreement in the first place. And yes, even the United States and Israel will lose because an agreement that would have pushed back by ten or fifteen years Iran’s timetable if it were to choose to develop a weapon will now be reduced to a year or less. And the United States will in particular lose because the entire world will understand that the word of an American president when entering into an international agreement cannot be trusted. The only winners from the withdrawal are President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who will enjoy the plaudits of their hardline supporters. But their victory will be illusory as the hard reality of what they have accomplished becomes clear. Failure of JCPOA definitely means that war is the only likely outcome if Tel Aviv and Washington continue in their absurd insistence that the Iranians constitute a major threat both to the region and the world. A war that might possibly involve both the United States and Russia as well as Iran, Saudi Arabia and Israel would devastate the region and might easily have potential to escalate into something like a global conflict. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-12/trumps-pyrrhic-victory-us-opts-path-can-only-lead-war
Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:35 PM
Quote: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-12/un-chief-nuclear-inspector-abruptly-resigns-iran-fm-embarks-global-tour-salvage Indeed the very day after Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's televised speech claiming "evidence" that Iran is actually hiding an active nuclear program, the IAEA issued an assessment directly negating Israel's claims, firmly asserting that there are "no credible indications" supporting the charge of a continued illegal Iranian nuclear weapons program after 2009.
Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Do you think that we're getting real information in order of importance? The government is not about to tell us anything significant, and the so called news is not about to dig it out. Instead, the government concocts narratives of what it wants us to think, and the "news" dutifully passes it along.
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