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GOP senator: 'There will be hell to pay' if Russia tries to meddle in 2018 midterms

Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) on Sunday warned "there will be hell to pay" if Russians attempt to meddle in the upcoming U.S. midterm elections ... Because that's the US's job!

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I see the pattern in your examples, Signym.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Dems tend to frame their military interventions as "helping"(!) the people. Yanukovich (despite having been elected) was an "undemocratic" leader;

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Putin saved my life, says ousted Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11692593/Vladimir-Put
in-saved-my-life-says-ousted-Ukrainian-president-Viktor-Yanukovych.html

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Qaddafi was "massacring his own people";

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Why was Putin so visibly distressed by the killing of Gaddafi?
www.quora.com/Why-was-Putin-so-visibly-distressed-by-the-killing-of-Ga
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Assad was Massacring his own people";

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Why Putin Is So Committed to Keeping Assad in Power
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/10/07/putins-russia-is-wedded-to-bashar-
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and the Xtian blacks of southern Sudan were yearning to breathe fee from the Muslim Arabs of northern Sudan.

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Sudan president to visit Putin in Russia
www.dabangasudan.org/en/all-news/article/sudan-president-to-visit-puti
n-in-russia

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Trump announced today he is finally keeping another campaign promise by withdrawing from the Deal paving the way to Iran Nuclear Weapon Power.

Butbutbut Iran already put the money for the Deal into the Clinton Crime Family Foundation!
So does this mean Iran will place a contract to hit Hilliary for the Deal getting cancelled?
Everybody wins!!

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Trump announced today he is finally keeping another campaign promise by withdrawing from the Deal paving the way to Iran Nuclear Weapon Power.

Butbutbut Iran already put the money for the Deal into the Clinton Crime Family Foundation!
So does this mean Iran will place a contract to hit Hilliary for the Deal getting cancelled?
Everybody wins!!

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Jeez. After hearing Israel's support for this decision, it is little wonder Obama worked so hard to overthrow Netanyahu.

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Leaked Doc Reveals White House Planning "Regime Change" In Iran

It appears Rudy Giuliani wasn't joking.

Just a few days after the former NYC mayor and latest member of President Trump's unexpectedly let it slip that "we got a president who is tough, who does not listen to the people who are naysayers, and a president who is committed to regime change [in Iran]", the Washington Free Beacon has obtained a three-page white paper being circulated among National Security Council officials with drafted plans to spark regime change in Iran, following the US exit from the Obama-era nuclear deal and the re-imposition of tough sanctions aimed at toppling the Iranian regime.

The plan, authored by the Security Studies Group, or SSG, a national security think-tank that has close ties to senior White House national security officials, including - who else - National Security Adviser John Bolton, seeks to reshape longstanding American foreign policy toward Iran by emphasizing an explicit policy of regime change, something the Obama administration opposed when popular protests gripped Iran in 2009, writes the Free Beacon, which obtained a leaked copy of the circulating plans.

The regime change plan seeks to fundamentally shift U.S. policy towards Iran and has found a receptive audience in the Trump administration, which has been moving in this direction since Bolton—a longtime and vocal supporter of regime change—entered the White House.

It deemphasizes U.S military intervention, instead focusing on a series of moves to embolden an Iranian population that has increasingly grown angry at the ruling regime for its heavy investments in military adventurism across the region. -Free Beacon

"The ordinary people of Iran are suffering under economic stagnation, while the regime ships its wealth abroad to fight its expansionist wars and to pad the bank accounts of the Mullahs and the IRGC command," SSG writes in the paper. "This has provoked noteworthy protests across the country in recent months" it further claims as an argument to push a "regime change" policy.

For now - at least - overthrowing the Iran government, with its extensive and close ties to the Kremlin, is not official US policy; SSG president Jim Hanson told the Free Beacon that the Trump administration does not want to engage in direct military intervention in Iran - and is instead focusing on other methods of ridding Iran of its "hardline ruling regime."

"The Trump administration has no desire to roll tanks in an effort to directly topple the Iranian regime," Hanson said. "But they would be much happier dealing with a post-Mullah government. That is the most likely path to a nuclear weapons-free and less dangerous Iran."

That will likely change, however.

One source close to the White House who has previewed the plan told the Free Beacon that the nuclear deal, also known as the JCPOA, solidified the Iranian regime's grip on power and intentionally prevented the United States from fomenting regime change

"The JCPOA purposefully destroyed the carefully created global consensus against the Islamic Republic," said the source, who would only speak to the Free Beacon on background about the sensitive issue. "Prior to that, everyone understood the dangers of playing footsie with the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism. It's now Trump, Bolton, and [Mike] Pompeo's job to put this consensus back in place."

The source tells the Beacon that Bolton is "acutely aware of the danger the Iranian regime poses to the region."

"John is someone who understands the danger of Iran viscerally, and knows that you're never going to fundamentally change its behavior—and the threats against Israel and the Saudis especially—until that revolutionary regime is gone," the source said, adding that "nothing's off the table right now if Israel is attacked."

That said, Bolton is confident that an Iranian regime change will occur in the next six months [LINK THAT I CAN'T GRAB]

A second source tells The Beacon that the Trump administration recognizes that the "chief impediment to the region is Iran's tyrannical regime."

"The problem is not the Iran nuclear deal it's the Iranian regime," said the source. "Team Bolton has spent years creating Plans B, C, and D for dealing with that problem. President Trump hired him knowing all of that. The administration will now start aggressively moving to deal with the root cause of chaos and violence in the region in a clear-eyed way."

Regional sources who have spoken to SSG "tell us that Iranian social media is more outraged about internal oppression, such as the recent restrictions on Telegram, than about supporting or opposing the nuclear program. Iranian regime oppression of its ethnic and religious minorities has created the conditions for an effective campaign designed to splinter the Iranian state into component parts," the group states. -Free Beacon

"More than one third of Iran's population is minority groups, many of whom already seek independence," the paper explains. "U.S. support for these independence movements, both overt and covert, could force the regime to focus attention on them and limit its ability to conduct other malign activities."

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Without a regime change, the United States will continue face threats from Iranian forces stationed throughout the region, including in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and Lebanon.

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"The probability the current Iranian theocracy will stop its nuclear program willingly or even under significant pressure is low," the plan states. "Absent a change in government within Iran, America will face a choice between accepting a nuclear-armed Iran or acting to destroy as much of this capability as possible."

That said, President Trump made clear earlier in the week that US officials must make efforts to differentiate between the people of Iran and its ruling regime.

"Any public discussion of these options, and any messaging about the Iranian regime in general, should make a bright line distinction between the theocratic regime along with its organs of oppression and the general populace," according to the plan. "We must constantly reinforce our support for removing the iron sandal from the necks of the people to allow them the freedom they deserve."

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Leaked Doc Reveals White House Planning "Regime Change" In Iran

It appears Rudy Giuliani wasn't joking.

Just a few days after the former NYC mayor and latest member of President Trump's unexpectedly let it slip that "we got a president who is tough, who does not listen to the people who are naysayers, and a president who is committed to regime change [in Iran]", the Washington Free Beacon has obtained a three-page white paper being circulated among National Security Council officials with drafted plans to spark regime change in Iran, following the US exit from the Obama-era nuclear deal and the re-imposition of tough sanctions aimed at toppling the Iranian regime.

The plan, authored by the Security Studies Group, or SSG, a national security think-tank that has close ties to senior White House national security officials, including - who else - National Security Adviser John Bolton, seeks to reshape longstanding American foreign policy toward Iran by emphasizing an explicit policy of regime change, something the Obama administration opposed when popular protests gripped Iran in 2009, writes the Free Beacon, which obtained a leaked copy of the circulating plans.

The regime change plan seeks to fundamentally shift U.S. policy towards Iran and has found a receptive audience in the Trump administration, which has been moving in this direction since Bolton—a longtime and vocal supporter of regime change—entered the White House.

It deemphasizes U.S military intervention, instead focusing on a series of moves to embolden an Iranian population that has increasingly grown angry at the ruling regime for its heavy investments in military adventurism across the region. -Free Beacon

"The ordinary people of Iran are suffering under economic stagnation, while the regime ships its wealth abroad to fight its expansionist wars and to pad the bank accounts of the Mullahs and the IRGC command," SSG writes in the paper. "This has provoked noteworthy protests across the country in recent months" it further claims as an argument to push a "regime change" policy.

For now - at least - overthrowing the Iran government, with its extensive and close ties to the Kremlin, is not official US policy; SSG president Jim Hanson told the Free Beacon that the Trump administration does not want to engage in direct military intervention in Iran - and is instead focusing on other methods of ridding Iran of its "hardline ruling regime."

"The Trump administration has no desire to roll tanks in an effort to directly topple the Iranian regime," Hanson said. "But they would be much happier dealing with a post-Mullah government. That is the most likely path to a nuclear weapons-free and less dangerous Iran."

That will likely change, however.

One source close to the White House who has previewed the plan told the Free Beacon that the nuclear deal, also known as the JCPOA, solidified the Iranian regime's grip on power and intentionally prevented the United States from fomenting regime change

"The JCPOA purposefully destroyed the carefully created global consensus against the Islamic Republic," said the source, who would only speak to the Free Beacon on background about the sensitive issue. "Prior to that, everyone understood the dangers of playing footsie with the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism. It's now Trump, Bolton, and [Mike] Pompeo's job to put this consensus back in place."

The source tells the Beacon that Bolton is "acutely aware of the danger the Iranian regime poses to the region."

"John is someone who understands the danger of Iran viscerally, and knows that you're never going to fundamentally change its behavior—and the threats against Israel and the Saudis especially—until that revolutionary regime is gone," the source said, adding that "nothing's off the table right now if Israel is attacked."

That said, Bolton is confident that an Iranian regime change will occur in the next six months [LINK THAT I CAN'T GRAB]

A second source tells The Beacon that the Trump administration recognizes that the "chief impediment to the region is Iran's tyrannical regime."

"The problem is not the Iran nuclear deal it's the Iranian regime," said the source. "Team Bolton has spent years creating Plans B, C, and D for dealing with that problem. President Trump hired him knowing all of that. The administration will now start aggressively moving to deal with the root cause of chaos and violence in the region in a clear-eyed way."

Regional sources who have spoken to SSG "tell us that Iranian social media is more outraged about internal oppression, such as the recent restrictions on Telegram, than about supporting or opposing the nuclear program. Iranian regime oppression of its ethnic and religious minorities has created the conditions for an effective campaign designed to splinter the Iranian state into component parts," the group states. -Free Beacon

"More than one third of Iran's population is minority groups, many of whom already seek independence," the paper explains. "U.S. support for these independence movements, both overt and covert, could force the regime to focus attention on them and limit its ability to conduct other malign activities."

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Did anyone say "Ukraine? This is a pretty clear statement that the USA does destabilize other nations.

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Without a regime change, the United States will continue face threats from Iranian forces stationed throughout the region, including in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and Lebanon.

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Wait. What?
Why is the US facing threats in Yemen? Is Yemen part of our territory? Is Syria? What happened to focusing on America, and not being policeman to the world?

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"The probability the current Iranian theocracy will stop its nuclear program willingly or even under significant pressure is low," the plan states. "Absent a change in government within Iran, America will face a choice between accepting a nuclear-armed Iran or acting to destroy as much of this capability as possible."

That said, President Trump made clear earlier in the week that US officials must make efforts to differentiate between the people of Iran and its ruling regime.

"Any public discussion of these options, and any messaging about the Iranian regime in general, should make a bright line distinction between the theocratic regime along with its organs of oppression and the general populace," according to the plan. "We must constantly reinforce our support for removing the iron sandal from the necks of the people to allow them the freedom they deserve."

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Originally posted by THG:
New York GOP Rep. Chris Collins arrested over insider trading charges

Rep. Chris Collins, R-N.Y., has been arrested on insider trading charges lodged by the Justice Department, law enforcement officials said Wednesday morning.

The indictment obtained from a federal grand jury also charges Collins' son, Cameron Collins, as well as the father of his fiancee, Stephen Zarsky.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-york-gop-rep-chris-collins-arres
ted-over-insider-trading-charges/ar-BBLENIL

The FBI is draining the swamp, Trumps swamp.

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Leaked Doc Reveals White House Planning "Regime Change" In Iran

It appears Rudy Giuliani wasn't joking.

Just a few days after the former NYC mayor and latest member of President Trump's unexpectedly let it slip that "we got a president who is tough, who does not listen to the people who are naysayers, and a president who is committed to regime change [in Iran]", the Washington Free Beacon has obtained a three-page white paper being circulated among National Security Council officials with drafted plans to spark regime change in Iran, following the US exit from the Obama-era nuclear deal and the re-imposition of tough sanctions aimed at toppling the Iranian regime.

The plan, authored by the Security Studies Group, or SSG, a national security think-tank that has close ties to senior White House national security officials, including - who else - National Security Adviser John Bolton, seeks to reshape longstanding American foreign policy toward Iran by emphasizing an explicit policy of regime change, something the Obama administration opposed when popular protests gripped Iran in 2009, writes the Free Beacon, which obtained a leaked copy of the circulating plans.

The regime change plan seeks to fundamentally shift U.S. policy towards Iran and has found a receptive audience in the Trump administration, which has been moving in this direction since Bolton—a longtime and vocal supporter of regime change—entered the White House.

It deemphasizes U.S military intervention, instead focusing on a series of moves to embolden an Iranian population that has increasingly grown angry at the ruling regime for its heavy investments in military adventurism across the region. -Free Beacon

"The ordinary people of Iran are suffering under economic stagnation, while the regime ships its wealth abroad to fight its expansionist wars and to pad the bank accounts of the Mullahs and the IRGC command," SSG writes in the paper. "This has provoked noteworthy protests across the country in recent months" it further claims as an argument to push a "regime change" policy.

For now - at least - overthrowing the Iran government, with its extensive and close ties to the Kremlin, is not official US policy; SSG president Jim Hanson told the Free Beacon that the Trump administration does not want to engage in direct military intervention in Iran - and is instead focusing on other methods of ridding Iran of its "hardline ruling regime."

"The Trump administration has no desire to roll tanks in an effort to directly topple the Iranian regime," Hanson said. "But they would be much happier dealing with a post-Mullah government. That is the most likely path to a nuclear weapons-free and less dangerous Iran."

That will likely change, however.

One source close to the White House who has previewed the plan told the Free Beacon that the nuclear deal, also known as the JCPOA, solidified the Iranian regime's grip on power and intentionally prevented the United States from fomenting regime change

"The JCPOA purposefully destroyed the carefully created global consensus against the Islamic Republic," said the source, who would only speak to the Free Beacon on background about the sensitive issue. "Prior to that, everyone understood the dangers of playing footsie with the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism. It's now Trump, Bolton, and [Mike] Pompeo's job to put this consensus back in place."

The source tells the Beacon that Bolton is "acutely aware of the danger the Iranian regime poses to the region."

"John is someone who understands the danger of Iran viscerally, and knows that you're never going to fundamentally change its behavior—and the threats against Israel and the Saudis especially—until that revolutionary regime is gone," the source said, adding that "nothing's off the table right now if Israel is attacked."

That said, Bolton is confident that an Iranian regime change will occur in the next six months [LINK THAT I CAN'T GRAB]

A second source tells The Beacon that the Trump administration recognizes that the "chief impediment to the region is Iran's tyrannical regime."

"The problem is not the Iran nuclear deal it's the Iranian regime," said the source. "Team Bolton has spent years creating Plans B, C, and D for dealing with that problem. President Trump hired him knowing all of that. The administration will now start aggressively moving to deal with the root cause of chaos and violence in the region in a clear-eyed way."

Regional sources who have spoken to SSG "tell us that Iranian social media is more outraged about internal oppression, such as the recent restrictions on Telegram, than about supporting or opposing the nuclear program. Iranian regime oppression of its ethnic and religious minorities has created the conditions for an effective campaign designed to splinter the Iranian state into component parts," the group states. -Free Beacon

"More than one third of Iran's population is minority groups, many of whom already seek independence," the paper explains. "U.S. support for these independence movements, both overt and covert, could force the regime to focus attention on them and limit its ability to conduct other malign activities."

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Did anyone say "Ukraine? This is a pretty clear statement that the USA does destabilize other nations.

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Without a regime change, the United States will continue face threats from Iranian forces stationed throughout the region, including in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and Lebanon.

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Wait. What?
Why is the US facing threats in Yemen? Is Yemen part of our territory? Is Syria? What happened to focusing on America, and not being policeman to the world?

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"The probability the current Iranian theocracy will stop its nuclear program willingly or even under significant pressure is low," the plan states. "Absent a change in government within Iran, America will face a choice between accepting a nuclear-armed Iran or acting to destroy as much of this capability as possible."

That said, President Trump made clear earlier in the week that US officials must make efforts to differentiate between the people of Iran and its ruling regime.

"Any public discussion of these options, and any messaging about the Iranian regime in general, should make a bright line distinction between the theocratic regime along with its organs of oppression and the general populace," according to the plan. "We must constantly reinforce our support for removing the iron sandal from the necks of the people to allow them the freedom they deserve."

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Funny...how did we get from draining the Swamp to Iraq, Iran and regime change? The below may be true, but that's not the topic at hand.

Anywho, we have some real swampy people running the show. Meanwhile, in Alexandria, VA the game is afoot...

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Draining the Swamp is the slang phrase for removing the diseased Obamabots driving the Nation into the ground.

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This policy change regarding Middle East Terrorist Enablers is a result of non-Obamabots being in top Administration positions.

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Seems fair plain to me. Why are you confused? Does plain American English flummox and perplex you?

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Jewels, I have a little news for you my "friend" "Draining the Swamp" is
slang alright, but allow me to retort:

It means that the chickenshit outfit currently occupying the White House (ugh!) are running roughshod over the Constitution and fucking everything in sight for personal profit and gain. It has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with plain old All-American Greed. Hate to break it to you,
that way, but playtime is over.

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Draining the Swamp is the slang phrase for removing the diseased Obamabots driving the Nation into the ground.

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So, you almost had it, but not quite. Obama is long gone. You guys, after 2 fucking years are still O-blaming, when all indicators point to the stupidest motherfucker on the planet hasn't a fucking clue as to how to comport himself in the Oval Office and around the world.

Now, wipe the shit off your lips and pay close attention. You know about as much as Trump does on how to be the world's leader. I have to say, it gives
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Again, Obama blaming. Don't you guys have a different tune? Oh, well when you have shit-for-brains leading the pack of lemmings, what do you expect.
Take fucking responsibility, you fuckers know nothing about world events.
Go ahead, it's okay, we know. No sense in trying to hide it.

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Seems fair plain to me. Why are you confused? Does plain American English flummox and perplex you?

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Oh shit! You finally didn't blame Obama. Good for you. But, nice try though.
Damn, maybe I should get into this Russian Bot thing. What's the pay like?
I won't take a dime under $20 an hour. Let me know will ya, papa needs a new lap top.

Sincerely.................

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GWB was the worst president we ever had

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Oh, come on SGG...

There's plenty of people in the world that are more stupid than Trump is.




And, BTW... how many years were people bitching that the economy was still bad because of GWB while Obama was selling us out to the banks and began the destruction of the US dollar while quantitative easing became a thing under his watch?


If your answer was "many years", you're correct. And you were correct to bitch about it too. GWB was the worst president we ever had because of what he did to the economy at the time, but then Obama dwarfed all of GWB's mistakes in 8 years.



If it makes you feel any better, though I may blame current economical problems on Obama, I place equal blame on the GWB administration as well.


And unlike JSF, I don't paint the current economy in a positive light. Even if things seem to be looking a little better on paper, nothing really matters anymore since we're one step away from holding monopoly money now.

The US economy is broke, and I don't think there is any way to fix it anymore.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I must admit I did not think that Donald J. Trump would ever reach the White House. Never in a million years would I have ever guessed it. Well, it shows how dumb I am.

I mostly loathe the Salamander-in-Chief, mainly because he's a slimebag, but personal feelings aside, he has done a masterful job at keeping his campaign promises. He's done so well in most, whoop-de-doo! but I would like to focus your attention to the topic of the thread at hand, namely:

Draining the Swamp.

Tom Price, the head of the Health and Human Services Department, lovely man and rotten scumbag:

Wasting taxpayer's money - uses PRIVATE JETS to fly about the country at the cost of an estimated $400,000 in five months. His predecessor, Kathleen Sebelius, in 8 years in office, took one such flight to visit 3 remote villages in Alaska. Price took one such trip from D.C. to Philly costing $25,000.00 - One flight. Now that is very "swampy."


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

The economy..........ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha..........ha!

Trump is fucking you guys in the ass and you're asking for more:
"thank you sir, may I have another."

"I alone can fix it." HA!

Meanwhile, the rich get richer while you guys bend over and take it, without
lubrication.

As Bob Dylan would sing: "How does it feel?"

Worst president...

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The economy..........ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha..........ha!

Trump is fucking you guys in the ass and you're asking for more:
"thank you sir, may I have another."

"I alone can fix it." HA!

Meanwhile, the rich get richer while you guys bend over and take it, without
lubrication.

As Bob Dylan would sing: "How does it feel?"

Worst president...

Nah, Trump took sole possession of that long ago and reasserts it on a daily basis. Champion Scumbag and Fuck-up in Chief.

sgg

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Originally posted by second:
Yesterday afternoon, President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, was found guilty on eight counts of fraud; Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, pleaded guilty to arranging hush payments that violated campaign finance laws “at the direction” of Trump; and Rep. Duncan Hunter, the second member of Congress to endorse Trump, was indicted for misusing campaign funds to fund a lavish lifestyle. Two weeks prior, Rep. Chris Collins, the first member of Congress to endorse Trump, was arrested by the FBI and charged with insider trading.

It sure is a crazy coincidence that all these criminals ended up in key positions around Donald Trump.

Tuesday evening, at a rally in West Virginia, Trump’s supporters chanted, “Lock her up,” even as Trump refused to mention Cohen, Manafort, Hunter, or Collins by name. The closest he came was a strange, repetitive riff, delivered almost as if he was talking to himself. “Where is the collusion?” he asked. “You know, they are still looking for collusion. Where is the collusion? Find the collusion. We want to find the collusion.”

Trump has gone from promising to drain the swamp to drowning in it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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What gets me Shiny is so many of us knew this sh*t upfront. Unfortunately, as they say, "the wheels of Justice turn slowly."

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What gets me Shiny is so many of us knew this sh*t upfront. Unfortunately, as they say, "the wheels of Justice turn slowly."

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Who waits for a jail sentence before deciding whether to vote for a crook? Trump voters could have known Trump was a criminal before voting for him:

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What gets me Shiny is so many of us knew this sh*t upfront. Unfortunately, as they say, "the wheels of Justice turn slowly."

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Who waits for a jail sentence before deciding whether to vote for a crook? Trump voters could have known Trump was a criminal before voting for him:

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You'll have to ask 6 and JSF. "Not Hillary" will probably be their excuse/answer.

Personally, I wouldn't need any of those items you listed - you can tell the guy is a pos just from listening to him - it seems so obvious. That's a fundamental thing I don't get about Trump voters is how they didn't smell the lying stink coming off him.

Recent fav tweet: "I like Campaign Chairmen who don’t get captured."

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The economy..........ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha..........ha!

Trump is fucking you guys in the ass and you're asking for more:
"thank you sir, may I have another."

"I alone can fix it." HA!

Meanwhile, the rich get richer while you guys bend over and take it, without
lubrication.

As Bob Dylan would sing: "How does it feel?"

Worst president...

Nah, Trump took sole possession of that long ago and reasserts it on a daily basis. Champion Scumbag and Fuck-up in Chief.

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What gets me Shiny is so many of us knew this sh*t upfront. Unfortunately, as they say, "the wheels of Justice turn slowly." I get how pro-Russians will still defend Trump because Disruption and Agitation are the new warfare - something else that is obvious - but the US citizens that are still following and defending that piece of slime... unreachables.

He hired "the best" criminals and he was even wrong about that - they sucked!

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Is there anyone who Trump picked for a position in government that isn't a crook?

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