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Yanno, I have to wonder if he's really dead, or if this isn't some elaborate staging so he can get out of the upcoming inquisiti ... I mean, depositions. This reminds me a lot of the Iran-Contra affair .... as the investigation slowly wended its way up through Oliver North and John Poindexter, the last culminating piece of testimony from then-head of the CIA William Casey was lost when Casey conveniently died. Of a pneumonia caused by a brain tumor, they said.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/07/obituaries/william-casey-ex-cia-hea
d-is-dead-at-74.html

We joked at the time that 3 oz of lead was a considerable-sized tumor!

I guess I was a cynic, even back then.

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McCain had spent the week “trying to portray Senator Barack Obama as a (1) friend of terrorists who would (2) drive the country into bankruptcy”, running campaign ads that hammered Obama as a (3) “liar”.- SECOND

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^ Deplorables- GSTRING

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Sig is still posting the propaganda about McCane. comrade...

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If you're going to defend the man, at least spell his name correctly.

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My bad. I thought this was a Simpson's thread.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Considering the source, I take that as a compliment.

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Too funny!!

I don't know what THUGR wants. Maybe that I shed a few crocodile tears over the passing of a man who was all war, all the time? A moment's reflection on his life?

Ok.

A moment ....

... that's enough.

We ALL reach the same end sooner or later. It's what we do in-between that counts. I felt worse hearing about Koko's death than McCain's; she was a far better person than he was.



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America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876]

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Much of this speech is directed directly at the likes of Jack, Sig, kiki, and JSF. Let me say it for John here,
you guys...…. T

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Too funny!!

I don't know what THUGR wants. Maybe that I shed a few crocodile tears over the passing of a man who was all war, all the time? A moment's reflection on his life?

Ok.

A moment ....

... that's enough.

We ALL reach the same end sooner or later. It's what we do in-between that counts. I felt worse hearing about Koko's death than McCain's; she was a far better person than he was.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh. That's what this thread is about.

I literally didn't know he died until about 10 seconds before writing this post and reading your comment Sigs.

Bummer for some, I'm sure.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not sure if T's been a member of the site long enough since he's among those who constantly change their name around here for one reason or another, but if he was, I think this would be an interesting experiment.

I'd love to know what both T and JSF had to say about McCain in the months leading up to the 2008 election and compare those thoughts to these voiced in 2018.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not sure if T's been a member of the site long enough since he's among those who constantly change their name around here for one reason or another, but if he was, I think this would be an interesting experiment.

I'd love to know what both T and JSF had to say about McCain in the months leading up to the 2008 election and compare those thoughts to these voiced in 2018.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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It shouldn't be too hard to find my posts from that time. That was a decision I had to think about. If Palin had been at the top of the ticket, I certainly would have voted GOP for the only time since 1984. Similar to 2012, when I would have voted for Ryan if he had the top of the ticket.
I seem to recall recently noticing some posts from Thuggri from that time - but they may have been only viewed as quotes when others replied to him/her, the original posts might have all been deleted/removed from the threads I was looking at.



I just noticed that 1984 was the only Election that I voted GOP.

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If the Republican party refuses to produce an acceptable candidate, it would seem that it is time to vote for a conservative or libertarian party candidate.

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(Also, don't you live in Texas?)

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(Also, don't you live in Texas?)

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What I find so annoying is that all of the so-called "antifa" supporters here on this board...

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....seem to forget that McCain was a great supporter of Nazis in Ukraine. And no, I don't mean people who liberals here CHOOSE to (erroneously) call "Nazis"...

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... I mean real dyed-in-the-wool Nazis whose political lineage harkens back to Stepan Bandera, famous Ukrainian Nazi.

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After a lifetime of blaming everybody else for all of his endless failures and incompetence, he finally ran out of blame to spread.

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Oh. That's what this thread is about.

I literally didn't know he died until about 10 seconds before writing this post and reading your comment Sigs.

Bummer for some, I'm sure.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You didn't read the OP?

Where I said he died?

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John McCain Went To Ukraine And Stood On Stage With A Man Accused Of Being An Anti-Semitic Neo-Nazi



If you want a good picture of how complicated the situation in Ukraine is, look no further than Senator John McCain's recent trip to Kyiv.

You see, while the former presidential hopeful's weekend trip was full of pro-Europe sound bites — "Ukraine will make Europe better and Europe will make Ukraine better," he told a crowd in Kyiv's central Maidan square on Saturday— and warnings of stern reactions from the U.S. should Ukraine use violence against the protesters, there's another detail to it that might cause McCain fans at home some concern.

As the U.K.'s Channel 4 news points out, McCain was repeatedly photographed with Oleh Tyahnybok, the leader of the right wing nationalist party Svoboda...

As Max Fisher of the Washington Post has noted, the situation in Ukraine is amplified by numerous ethnic and linguistic issues that tie into a not-always-pretty history of nationalism and subjugation. In the past, McCain has sometimes revealed a simplistic, Cold War viewpoint of Russia. You have to wonder if, by going to Ukraine and standing on stage with a man accused of being an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi, he may have shown that trait again.

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The Dark Side of the Ukraine Revolt

While most of the Western media describe the current crisis in Ukraine as a confrontation between authoritarianism and democracy, many of the shock troops who have manned barricades in Kiev and the western city of Lviv these past months represent a dark page in the country’s history and have little interest in either democracy or the liberalism of Western Europe and the United States.

“You’d never know from most of the reporting that far-right nationalists and fascists have been at the heart of the protests and attacks on government buildings,” reports Seumas Milne of the British Guardian. The most prominent of the groups has been the ultra-right-wing Svoboda or “Freedom” Party ...

Svoboda—which currently has thirty-six deputies in the 450-member Ukrainian parliament—began life in the mid-1990s as the Social National Party of the Ukraine, but its roots lie in World War II, when Ukrainian nationalists and Nazis found common ground in the ideology of anti-communism and anti-Semitism ...

Tyahnybok is an anti-Semite who says “organized Jewry” controls the Ukraine’s media and government, and is planning “genocide” against Christians. He has turned Svoboda into the fourth-largest party in the country, and, this past December, US Senator John McCain shared a platform and an embrace with Tyahnybok at a rally in Kiev.

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Regardless of anything else, I know for a fact that in 2008 the last thing in the world that T was calling McCain was a "hero". I'll bet Auraptor probably did, but not T.

That's the problem with being as hypocritical as the modern Left is today. You force yourself to have an extremely short term memory to make things like this work out.

I applaud the mental gymnastics.- SIX

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Fist [sic] of all sig you sick bitch. McCain was in the Ukraine and most likely didn't have a clue as to who the man was, and what if anything his affiliations were to Nazis. Most of those he met with were more than likely shady characters. McCain's goal was to halt the dictator Putin and the Russians.

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The photo of John McCain posing with terrorists and kidnappers in Syria encapsulates, perfectly, everything wrong with the position of McCain and others that the U.S. ought to insert itself into Syria’s civil war.

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Huh. You have both on your ballot? I think I know who the Libertarians are, but who represents a "conservative" party in Arizona? (Also, don't you live in Texas?)

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Signym, you are pretty pitiful at understanding what you are reading because those were not my words, but the words of JEWELSTAITEFAN, Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:45 PM

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Huh. You have both on your ballot? I think I know who the Libertarians are, but who represents a "conservative" party in Arizona? (Also, don't you live in Texas?)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I just go off the assumption that unless Second is making a personal insult to somebody here or reminding us of how successful and awesome he is then everything else he posts here is somebody else's words.

Most of the time when you click one of his links everything that he put in the post that wasn't in one of the above categories was from the link word for word even though it wasn't quoted.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I read a joke about McCain. It went like this: the line of people waiting to piss on his grave was so long it was getting the attention of the local police.



THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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I'm not sure if T's been a member of the site long enough since he's among those who constantly change their name around here for one reason or another, but if he was, I think this would be an interesting experiment.

I'd love to know what both T and JSF had to say about McCain in the months leading up to the 2008 election and compare those thoughts to these voiced in 2018.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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It shouldn't be too hard to find my posts from that time. That was a decision I had to think about. If Palin had been at the top of the ticket, I certainly would have voted GOP for the only time since 1984. Similar to 2012, when I would have voted for Ryan if he had the top of the ticket.
I seem to recall recently noticing some posts from Thuggri from that time - but they may have been only viewed as quotes when others replied to him/her, the original posts might have all been deleted/removed from the threads I was looking at.



I just noticed that 1984 was the only Election that I voted GOP.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:45 PM
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=32594&mid=58378
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Conservatives don't like McRINO because he is the opposite of a conservative.
I will not vote for him. This is almost as bad as 1976.
I will have to get my sample ballot early and check into all the choices.
Remember, if a 3rd party gets a certain percentage of the vote, they start to get campaign funding and other election benefits during the next election cycle.
If the Republican party refuses to produce an acceptable candidate, it would seem that it is time to vote for a conservative or libertarian party candidate.

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I just go off the assumption that unless Second is making a personal insult to somebody here or reminding us of how successful and awesome he is then everything else he posts here is somebody else's words.

Most of the time when you click one of his links everything that he put in the post that wasn't in one of the above categories was from the link word for word even though it wasn't quoted.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Did you ever notice you have a garbage can full of grievances against your betters? That explains EVERYTHING about you. There is article about that: Two funerals and a wedding - The shunning of Donald Trump. It is about why fucked-up-in-the-head people see Trump as their Savior. They have been shunned for years by their betters, as has Trump, most recently when he was told to stay away from McCain's funeral. - SECONDRATE

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I just go off the assumption that unless Second is making a personal insult to somebody here or reminding us of how successful and awesome he is then everything else he posts here is somebody else's words. - SUX

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The photo of John McCain posing with terrorists and kidnappers in Syria encapsulates, perfectly, everything wrong with the position of McCain and others that the U.S. ought to insert itself into Syria’s civil war.

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EDITED TO ADD: Yanno, all of this stuff about nazis in Ukraine came out in the many discussions here on this very board. CLEARLY you shut your eyes and plugged your ears to information that you "DIDN'T LIKE". My god, you are so many kinds of deliberately-stupid I don't even know where to begin the description.

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The photo of John McCain posing with terrorists and kidnappers in Syria encapsulates, perfectly, everything wrong with the position of McCain and others that the U.S. ought to insert itself into Syria’s civil war.
You call that posing?? You're so desperate it's embarrassing.- GSTRING

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EDITED TO ADD: Yanno, all of this stuff about nazis in Ukraine came out in the many discussions here on this very board. CLEARLY you shut your eyes and plugged your ears to information that you "DIDN'T LIKE". My god, you are so many kinds of deliberately-stupid I don't even know where to begin the description. - SIGNY

I absolutely remember you giving us all a laugh when you tried to use the same "random single image theory" to smear a Ukrainian official. You showed what you thought was him doing a nazi salute. You thought you had him red handed! I'm wheezing thinking of how that blew up in your face.

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I just go off the assumption that unless Second is making a personal insult to somebody here or reminding us of how successful and awesome he is then everything else he posts here is somebody else's words.

Most of the time when you click one of his links everything that he put in the post that wasn't in one of the above categories was from the link word for word even though it wasn't quoted.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Did you ever notice you have a garbage can full of grievances against your betters? That explains EVERYTHING about you. There is article about that: Two funerals and a wedding - The shunning of Donald Trump. It is about why fucked-up-in-the-head people see Trump as their Savior. They have been shunned for years by their betters, as has Trump, most recently when he was told to stay away from McCain's funeral.

More at www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-pariah-20180827-story.html

"Trump shouldn't be disappointed, because in many ways he's asked for it." 6ix, you asked for people to kick your ass because it is large, slow, and blocking the way. Exactly like Trump's enormous ass. I look forward to many more years of Trump being butt-booted but staying in position, unmovable but angry and irritated with each new kick. So much low entertainment, now that Firefly is dead all these years, watching the white middle classes get angrier and angrier and responding poorer and poorer, never understanding that their problems are mostly their own fault, not the government's. Trump can't fix what is wrong with his voters and they will never believe it is them, not government, that Made America Less Than Great. If they want MAGA, they will have to make themselves great, first, not the unrealistic way where Trump makes worthless promises to do the work for them.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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