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How would I do that if the thread is gone? Will you just trust me?

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How would I do that if the thread is gone? Will you just trust me?

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Why should anyone trust a proven liar?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Now, I did an internet search for that thread (RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE)and the thread did exist (as we all remember) because I found (under my name) links to that thread where I posted my (many) replies http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthreaduser.aspx?u=1606 but when I attempt to LINK to that thread ... I get an error. http://www.fireflyfans.net/GenericErrorPage.htm?aspxerrorpath=/mthread
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ONLY THE AUTHOR CAN REMOVE A THREAD FROM VIEW. AND SINCE IT WAS REMOVED ... PRESUMABLY BY YOU, SINCE YOU WERE THE AUTHOR OF THE "RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE" THREAD ... YOU APPARENTLY FEEL THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Now, personally, I can't recall anything in that thread that was so god-awful that you'd want to hide it. But apparently there was something in there ...

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But.... "trust" you? After you pulled a stunt like that?

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Ok, show me one lie. I keep giving you this chance

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Originally posted by THG:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=58859

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It seems to me there are several slow-motion processes going on, which are obfuscated by public statements and meaningless gestures.

The first is the western commitment to expanding NATO and encircling Russia. Since the fall of the Berlin wall, something like 13 nations have been added to NATO. The Ukraine "color revolution" fostered by the USA is just one more step in the process. The plan is to encircle Russia and then pivot to the east. USA admin wants total full spectrum dominance.

The second is the resurgence of the Russian economy and military. The Russians were not likely to just give up Sevastopol, which is their major access to the Mediterranean.

And they probably don't want eastern and southern Ukraine, which would represent a huge money pit - geostrategically it would be far better for them to have a neutral united Ukraine than a divided one, but with Kiev displacing so many people, destroying infrastructure, cutting off pension payments and access to banking, Russia may need to provide alternate services to eastern and southern Ukraine on a purely humanitarian basis, which would provide yet another pretext for Kiev to declare war.

Also, Kiev has massed its troops forward to the dividing line AFTER the cease-fire was negotiated, with responding troop movements on the other side.

The third is the polarization of Europe. Some nations are swinging towards Russia (Hungary, Serbia, Slovenia, possibly Bulgaria), others are openly pushing for aggressive anti-Russian militarization (Poland and the Baltic states). After Merkel visited Washington, where her role was explained to her by Obama, Germany swung towards the militarization camp (no matter what German FM Steinmeier says). This really showed up in the G20 meeting.

Russia, meanwhile, is isolating itself as much as possible from trade and economic fallout by reaching out to China, Brazil, and other nations with trade deals and banking systems, so there is worldwide polarization happening as well. Many of the nations formerly in the western camp are being wooed by Russia and China, this seems to include Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Alliances have become more fluid, it's almost impossible to tell who is on whose "side" now.

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Now, possibly what will happen (and this is my hope) that once the tanks and troops and air forces are bolstered and re-arranged on both sides, this will all settle down to "watchful waiting" ... "frozen conflict" status.

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But there are two important indicators of immediately impending out-and-out war: the Russian cutoff of natural gas to Europe, and the acceptance of Ukraine into NATO.

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Ok, show me one lie. I keep giving you this chance

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I've demonstrated your lies in MANY threads. Quite often, when you impute some sort of motivation or statement to me, which I never said. You'll often do that in the very thread where you claim that I made that statement, which makes your lies extremely easy to demonstrate. I'm sure you recall at least a few of those, since they happened more than once.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I noticed that all of "G's posts are missing from this thread as well. The same thing happened to BRENDA ... a number of her posts disappeared. Since it's unlikely that G would have picked thru this thread as well, just to remove his contributions, it IS likely that the removal of the RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE thread was just a database glitch, and not removed by GSTRING.

Sorry there, GSTRING. I withdraw my accusation that you deliberately removed the thread from view.

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