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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, what I would think is that

1) If it was something going on with the SUN, they'd shut down ALL solar observatories. This isn't the only one in the world, and not even the only one in the USA. It IS the only operating coronagraph* in the USA, but not the only one operating in the world. There are also a number of orbiting coronographs, so unless these are ALL shut down I think we can eliminate something related to the sun including the corona or any near-solar object
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_solar_telescopes

*A coronagraph blocks out the disc of the sun (kind of like a solar eclipse) which enables better visualization of the corona and near-solar objects like comets.



2) In addition, if there was the mother of all coronal mass ejection events, it would have hit us by now.

3) As far as I know, telescopic observatories really don't use toxic chemicals or radionuclides, so it's unlikely to be a spill.

4) Unless the closure of the Post Office is meant to throw people off the trail, this would be an important clue.

My guess is that somebody mailed something toxic, or at least thought to be toxic. Since this happened Sept 6, the test lab may not have been able to rule out "toxics" yet. (We've been given strange liquids and powders and asked if they were "toxic". Well, there are a lot of toxins out there! It can take quite a while to rule out - R/O - anything from anthrax to radionuclides to dioxin.)

http://earthsky.org/human-world/why-sunspot-solar-observatory-nm-close
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"They Just Evacuated Us": Conspiracy Theories Run Wild After FBI Shuts Down Solar Observatory

The National Solar Observatory in Sunspot, New Mexico was raided and shut down by the FBI on September 6 over an undisclosed national security issue, stirring up a wide array of conspiracy theories on YouTube, social media and tabloids.

"There was a Blackhawk helicopter, a bunch of people around antennas and work crews on towers, but nobody would tell us anything," Otero County Sheriff Benny House told the Alamogordo Daily News. "I don't know why the FBI would get involved so quick and not tell us anything."

An anonymous 4chan user who called both nearby Apache Point Observatory and the local sheriff was told that they were "locked out" of the Sunspot observatory and had no idea what was going on.

Located near both White Sands Missile Range and infamous Roswell New Mexico, speculation over the observatory's abrupt closure has ranged from an alien mothership using the sun to "refuel", to a devastating solar disaster such as the 1859 Carrington Event - a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) which would have undoubtedly blown out most satellites and electronics had they been invented yet.

Despite unusually high sunspot activity and a minor CME ejection which hit Earth last week, it appears that threat has passed, for now - as a CME takes anywhere from one to three days to hit, which brings us back to aliens and other theories. It doesn't help that several public solar observatory cams have gone offline including NASA's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) which will be offline "for several weeks" in order to update the "code infrastructure that provides access to SOHO data."

Others have pointed to the fact that NASA launched a new solar probe last month - the first-ever mission to "touch" the sun, while the space agency will (or has) shot it's Focusing Optics X-ray Solar Imager (FOXSI) 190 miles into space for a 15-minute "peek" at the sun.

The FOXSI mission will take its third flight from the White Sands Missile Range in White Sands, New Mexico, no earlier than September 7, the agency said in a statement. Derived from the nautical term "to sound", meaning to measure, FOXSI rockets make brief 15-minute journeys above the Earth's atmosphere for a peek at space before falling back to the ground. -TimesNowNews

One reader who wishes to remain anonymous has a few theories, including why other solar observatories around the world haven't been raided and locked down:

The many thousands of telescopes world wide are normally looking at the night sky, not at the sun. Additionally, most telescopes are looking at things at distances of 100,000's of light years. They won't "see" a UFO hovering right if front of them, or even a few light minutes away. Only solar scopes are looking at as short a distance as 8 light minutes.

The FBI swooping in on a Blackhawk means that "time" was a factor in the "effectiveness" of their response.

That the FBI shut down the post office is really interesting. Makes me think someone (unidentified) was trying to get the word out, about something, and the FBI was called in to rapidly shut down efforts to communicate beyond the observatory. Shut down the post office and check all the mail, shut down RF comms (guys on the antenna) and go over the facility with a fine tooth comb to find any memory stick or any "virus" program hiding in a computer somewhere ready to send data out to the web when reactivated.

It also wouldn't surprise me to learn that every solar observatory in the world has someone, like their director, who's job is to erase such data. What would it look (to the outside world) like if this designated person at Sunspot AZ contacted the "authorities" and said "we got a 'rogue' trying to get the word out, I need help to shut this thing down"?

How about this: what if data collected from the preeminent solar telescope did show we're heading into a Maunder Minimum; mini ice-age for next 100 years or so? I just read before this FBI episode that solar astronomers had discovered a new solar feature deep in the Sun. Don't remember the details, something about a new, big convection cell or something.

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What are the locals saying?

ABC-7 Monday spoke with Shari Lifson, who is with AURA, the company that co-manages the Observatory with NMSU.

“The Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy who manages the facility is addressing a security issue at this time. We have decided to vacate the facility at this time as precautionary measure. It was our decision to evacuate the facility.”

Lifson told ABC 7 there is no timetable for the Observatory to be re-opened.

ABC-7 also reached out to the FBI, but did not hear back from the federal agency in time for the deadline. The FBI did speak with local law enforcement about the length of the observatory closure.

“The FBI is refusing to tell us what’s going on. We’ve got people up there (at Sunspot) that requested us to standby while they evacuate it. Nobody would really elaborate on any of the circumstances as to why.

The FBI were up there. What their purpose was nobody will say. But for the FBI to get involved that quick and be so secretive about it, there was a lot of stuff going on up there.

There was a Blackhawk helicopter, a bunch of people around antennas and work crews on towers but nobody would tell us anything.”

The observatory's location, near multiple military bases two hours’ drive from the town of Roswell, has sparked massive speculation on social media. Roswell was the area of a famous 1947 sighting of UFOs which government officials said were high altitude weather balloons.

For the conspiracy-minded, Tyler Glockner, who operates the YouTube conspiracy channel secureteam10, speculates that the evacuation could be part of a government effort to cover up a discovery involving aliens, an imminent solar flare, and or something outer space related. Glockner then said one Reddit user suggested a national security issue threat was discovered involving a foreign power attempting to use the observatory's antennas to spy on nearby White Sands Missile Range.

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New amateur drone footage shows the observatory is a "ghost town," said Glockner. When the drone first lifts off, the camera shows the White Sands Missile Range in the distance (25 to 30 miles).

Hilariously, the box for a 1997 X-Files video game "Unrestricted Access" was found in the trash.

Until the FBI can explain why they swooped in on a Blackhawk helicopter and shut down both the observatory and the local post office, endless conspiracy theories will continue to emerge - unless of course we're all dead from alien invasion, or enslaved to do their bidding.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A lot of this needs verification, but ...

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"They Just Evacuated Us": Conspiracy Theories Run Wild After FBI Shuts Down Solar Observatory

The National Solar Observatory in Sunspot, New Mexico was raided and shut down by the FBI on September 6 over an undisclosed national security issue, stirring up a wide array of conspiracy theories on YouTube, social media and tabloids.

"There was a Blackhawk helicopter, a bunch of people around antennas and work crews on towers, but nobody would tell us anything," Otero County Sheriff Benny House told the Alamogordo Daily News. "I don't know why the FBI would get involved so quick and not tell us anything."

An anonymous 4chan user who called both nearby Apache Point Observatory and the local sheriff was told that they were "locked out" of the Sunspot observatory and had no idea what was going on.

Located near both White Sands Missile Range and infamous Roswell New Mexico, speculation over the observatory's abrupt closure has ranged from an alien mothership using the sun to "refuel", to a devastating solar disaster such as the 1859 Carrington Event - a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) which would have undoubtedly blown out most satellites and electronics had they been invented yet.

Despite unusually high sunspot activity and a minor CME ejection which hit Earth last week, it appears that threat has passed, for now - as a CME takes anywhere from one to three days to hit, which brings us back to aliens and other theories. It doesn't help that several public solar observatory cams have gone offline including NASA's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) which will be offline "for several weeks" in order to update the "code infrastructure that provides access to SOHO data."

Others have pointed to the fact that NASA launched a new solar probe last month - the first-ever mission to "touch" the sun, while the space agency will (or has) shot it's Focusing Optics X-ray Solar Imager (FOXSI) 190 miles into space for a 15-minute "peek" at the sun.

The FOXSI mission will take its third flight from the White Sands Missile Range in White Sands, New Mexico, no earlier than September 7, the agency said in a statement. Derived from the nautical term "to sound", meaning to measure, FOXSI rockets make brief 15-minute journeys above the Earth's atmosphere for a peek at space before falling back to the ground. -TimesNowNews

One reader who wishes to remain anonymous has a few theories, including why other solar observatories around the world haven't been raided and locked down:

The many thousands of telescopes world wide are normally looking at the night sky, not at the sun. Additionally, most telescopes are looking at things at distances of 100,000's of light years. They won't "see" a UFO hovering right if front of them, or even a few light minutes away. Only solar scopes are looking at as short a distance as 8 light minutes.

The FBI swooping in on a Blackhawk means that "time" was a factor in the "effectiveness" of their response.

That the FBI shut down the post office is really interesting. Makes me think someone (unidentified) was trying to get the word out, about something, and the FBI was called in to rapidly shut down efforts to communicate beyond the observatory. Shut down the post office and check all the mail, shut down RF comms (guys on the antenna) and go over the facility with a fine tooth comb to find any memory stick or any "virus" program hiding in a computer somewhere ready to send data out to the web when reactivated.

It also wouldn't surprise me to learn that every solar observatory in the world has someone, like their director, who's job is to erase such data. What would it look (to the outside world) like if this designated person at Sunspot AZ contacted the "authorities" and said "we got a 'rogue' trying to get the word out, I need help to shut this thing down"?

How about this: what if data collected from the preeminent solar telescope did show we're heading into a Maunder Minimum; mini ice-age for next 100 years or so? I just read before this FBI episode that solar astronomers had discovered a new solar feature deep in the Sun. Don't remember the details, something about a new, big convection cell or something.

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It would be pointless, I think, to shut down solar scopes over something like a "Maunder Minimum" which would become obvious in a few months anyway.

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What are the locals saying?

ABC-7 Monday spoke with Shari Lifson, who is with AURA, the company that co-manages the Observatory with NMSU.

“The Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy who manages the facility is addressing a security issue at this time. We have decided to vacate the facility at this time as precautionary measure. It was our decision to evacuate the facility.”

Lifson told ABC 7 there is no timetable for the Observatory to be re-opened.

ABC-7 also reached out to the FBI, but did not hear back from the federal agency in time for the deadline. The FBI did speak with local law enforcement about the length of the observatory closure.

“The FBI is refusing to tell us what’s going on. We’ve got people up there (at Sunspot) that requested us to standby while they evacuate it. Nobody would really elaborate on any of the circumstances as to why.

The FBI were up there. What their purpose was nobody will say. But for the FBI to get involved that quick and be so secretive about it, there was a lot of stuff going on up there.

There was a Blackhawk helicopter, a bunch of people around antennas and work crews on towers but nobody would tell us anything.”

The observatory's location, near multiple military bases two hours’ drive from the town of Roswell, has sparked massive speculation on social media. Roswell was the area of a famous 1947 sighting of UFOs which government officials said were high altitude weather balloons.

For the conspiracy-minded, Tyler Glockner, who operates the YouTube conspiracy channel secureteam10, speculates that the evacuation could be part of a government effort to cover up a discovery involving aliens, an imminent solar flare, and or something outer space related. Glockner then said one Reddit user suggested a national security issue threat was discovered involving a foreign power attempting to use the observatory's antennas to spy on nearby White Sands Missile Range.

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Or, alternately, a foreign power using solar data to transmit information or to implement electronic warfare within the USA.

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New amateur drone footage shows the observatory is a "ghost town," said Glockner. When the drone first lifts off, the camera shows the White Sands Missile Range in the distance (25 to 30 miles).

Hilariously, the box for a 1997 X-Files video game "Unrestricted Access" was found in the trash.

Until the FBI can explain why they swooped in on a Blackhawk helicopter and shut down both the observatory and the local post office, endless conspiracy theories will continue to emerge - unless of course we're all dead from alien invasion, or enslaved to do their bidding.

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Killer asteroid?
Impending (killer) solar eruption?
Embedded electronic warfare?

Inquiring minds want to know!

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
The FBI is protecting 'Murika from knowing what's going on

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
The FBI is a disaster when it comes to everyday verifiable evidence. I can't imagine they could manage to do any better dealing with advanced solar science. How anybody thinks they could distinguish genuine science from the political 'crazy' in their heads, from a security issue or sabotage involving antennae, is beyond me.

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Alt media is abuzz with the idea that six MORE solar telescopes were closed at the same time: Australia, Chile, Spain, Hawaii (2), and Pennsylvania

So just OOC I started looking them up:
1) There is no solar telescope in Australia (Hmmm... not a good start)
2) There is no indication that the (small, 13-inch) Fitz-Clark (solar) telescope on Allegheny PA was ever closed during that time period.
3) Mauna Loa data is available for the whole week that the Sunspot facility was closed, and does indicate an coronal event on the 7th. (sounds like nothing special) https://mlso.hao.ucar.edu/mlso_data_calendar.php?calinst=kcor

So, that's where I stopped because it was clear I was chasing phantoms.

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Why stop?
Around here, the Trolls have been chasing phantoms for 22 months, and show no signs of visiting reality.

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Seems it was some underage minor criminal abuse thing a conspiracy maybe, story out now says FBI was chasing the janitor who had links with child pornography.

an investigation of "criminal activity" ongoing

if one of the people inside was a criminal pervert or a sex offender which they could not speak to or locate then it would explain...maybe.... why they shut a government facility and stopped members of the public visiting because of risk or criminal danger

https://www.ktsm.com/news/local/el-paso-news/child-pornography-reason-
behind-sunspot-observatory-closure-according-to-court-documents/1460386237
source within the building observed a computer with "not good" images on it, the warrant states.

Dailymail also has an article
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6187437/Mysterious-FBI-shutdo
wn-Sunspot-Solar-Observatory-CHILD-PORN-investigation.html

Australia newspaper reads

Revealed: Truth behind FBI’s mysterious evacuation of Sunspot observatory
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/revealed-truth-behind
-fbis-mysterious-evacuation-of-sunspot-observatory/news-story/c708f5987e8ad79ff08df3fc80392495
THE mysterious evacuation of a space observatory sparked alien conspiracy theories but now the dark reason for the raid can be revealed.

An investigation by the FBI identified a janitor at the facility as the main suspect. However, he has not been charged with a crime even though his name appears on the warrant.

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