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McCain’s “heroism” stems uniquely from the fact that he was an obstreperous prisoner of war unwilling to cooperate with his captors. Undeniably thugs, McCain’s jailers resembled the jailers at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in their sadism and lack of respect for international conventions guaranteeing rights to enemy combatants. That he refused an early release and was not “broken” by his captors does not make him George Washington, Sergeant York or even Audie Murphy.

McCain’s earlier and post-War years were ones of privilege, stature and mischief. He was by his own and all other accounts a cocky, drunken, gambling, whore mongering flyboy whose positions before and after the Vietnam War were arranged for by his family connections. His years as Naval Liaison to the US Senate allowed him to charm and ingratiate himself in the corridors of power which led to a vacant House seat being arranged for him in Arizona, where he had never visited let alone lived.

His family’s DNA is war. The McCain family history of grandfather, father, McCain himself and now his son being at war is essential to understanding his psyche.

He is Sparta and the rest of us are Athens.

A President McCain could well lead to the end of The American Century.

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McCain’s Smear Campaign Will Have an Impact Long After Election Day

Talk about the “fierce urgency of now.” While that phrase might have been been adopted by Barack Obama, it is equally suited — albeit differently applied — to describe the destructive campaign being undertaken by John McCain. Because McCain seems to be gunning to win the election, all future consequences be damned.

In the last few weeks, with McCain’s poor handling of the financial crisis, poor debate performances, and cynical pick of Sarah Palin as his running mate torpedoing his chances of winning the presidency, McCain unleashed himself and his minions on a dirty and reckless path of attacking Obama with lies, distortions and smears. McCain and Palin both repeatedly invoke socialism when describing Obama’s economic policies, even though you would be hard-pressed to find a reputable economist who would agree with that assertion, at least without lumping every president since Franklin Roosevelt into the socialism club. (And that doesn’t even take into account the most socialism-reminiscent thing to happen in recent history, the bank and corporate bailouts that were supported by George W. Bush and the Republican leaders of Congress. Are they socialists too?)

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Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters

he UpTake‘s Chuck Olsen interviews author Irwin Tang about his book, “Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters.” McCain first used the work “gook” in the mass media in his 1973 article for U.S. News & World Report.

The word appears 12 times in the article and is available online here. Most recently, McCain used the term in his 2000 presidential campaign, as documented by the San Francisco Chronicle. To learn more about Mr. Tang’s book, which also details McCain’s connection to white supremacist groups, visit his web site.

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On the Leftists newest "Hero", John McCain...

As described in 2008 by the Huffington Post.

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McCain’s “heroism” stems uniquely from the fact that he was an obstreperous prisoner of war unwilling to cooperate with his captors. Undeniably thugs, McCain’s jailers resembled the jailers at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in their sadism and lack of respect for international conventions guaranteeing rights to enemy combatants. That he refused an early release and was not “broken” by his captors does not make him George Washington, Sergeant York or even Audie Murphy.

McCain’s earlier and post-War years were ones of privilege, stature and mischief. He was by his own and all other accounts a cocky, drunken, gambling, whore mongering flyboy whose positions before and after the Vietnam War were arranged for by his family connections. His years as Naval Liaison to the US Senate allowed him to charm and ingratiate himself in the corridors of power which led to a vacant House seat being arranged for him in Arizona, where he had never visited let alone lived.

His family’s DNA is war. The McCain family history of grandfather, father, McCain himself and now his son being at war is essential to understanding his psyche.

He is Sparta and the rest of us are Athens.

A President McCain could well lead to the end of The American Century.

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-walden/et-tu-mccain_b_97988.htm
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Plenty more where this came from. The Leftist's hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I'm just getting started.

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It’s all too late now. Not even the eloquent, stinging words of Powell on Meet the Press condemning the descent into the gutter of the McCain campaign can undo the damage that has already been done. McCain, in his tunnel-like view of the race, with its damn-the-future-win-today approach, has already released the poison of smear into the American atmosphere. It’s out there, forcing us to revisit McCarthy-like lies about socialism and Civil War- and Civil Rights-era notions of “real” Americans and being “not like us.”

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McCain’s Smear Campaign Will Have an Impact Long After Election Day

Talk about the “fierce urgency of now.” While that phrase might have been been adopted by Barack Obama, it is equally suited — albeit differently applied — to describe the destructive campaign being undertaken by John McCain. Because McCain seems to be gunning to win the election, all future consequences be damned.

In the last few weeks, with McCain’s poor handling of the financial crisis, poor debate performances, and cynical pick of Sarah Palin as his running mate torpedoing his chances of winning the presidency, McCain unleashed himself and his minions on a dirty and reckless path of attacking Obama with lies, distortions and smears. McCain and Palin both repeatedly invoke socialism when describing Obama’s economic policies, even though you would be hard-pressed to find a reputable economist who would agree with that assertion, at least without lumping every president since Franklin Roosevelt into the socialism club. (And that doesn’t even take into account the most socialism-reminiscent thing to happen in recent history, the bank and corporate bailouts that were supported by George W. Bush and the Republican leaders of Congress. Are they socialists too?)

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/mitchell-bard/mccains-smear-campaign-wi
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Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters

he UpTake‘s Chuck Olsen interviews author Irwin Tang about his book, “Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters.” McCain first used the work “gook” in the mass media in his 1973 article for U.S. News & World Report.

The word appears 12 times in the article and is available online here. Most recently, McCain used the term in his 2000 presidential campaign, as documented by the San Francisco Chronicle. To learn more about Mr. Tang’s book, which also details McCain’s connection to white supremacist groups, visit his web site.

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-uptake/gook-john-mccains-racism_b_1
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Again, quoting a "lefty" writer. What gives?

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Soon after the announcement of Sen. John McCain’s death, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer came out with a striking suggestion to rename the Russell Senate Office Building after the late Arizona senator.

It would be a dramatic step, to be sure. There aren’t many congressional office buildings around, and a lot of noteworthy senators from American history lack formal commemoration. But it also seems like an elegant solution to the somewhat embarrassing reality that even though former Sen. Richard Russell (D-GA) was an iconic figure in his day, he was also an arch-segregationist and the key legislative leader of the white supremacist movement in America during its final two decades of formal high-level political authority.

Simply swapping out Russell for a more conventional liberal Democrat (Ted Kennedy, say) would be a hard sell in a polarized environment. But why not swap out a Democrat whom contemporary Democrats don’t like for a Republican who is broadly respected on both sides of the aisle? The fact that honoring McCain serves as a sub rosa way of slamming President Donald Trump — and the fact that Trump is clearly annoyed by the impulse to honor McCain — only makes it all the better.

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I'm still looking for all these "lefties" who love McCain. Not seeing them.

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It would help if you'd open your eyes.


Just look at all the "folks" defending the McCain "legacy", and take a gander at Ocasio- Cortez' tribute to John McCain, warmonger.
https://ijr.com/2018/08/1119016-ocasio-cortez-john-mccain/

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
"Jane you ignorant slut" Dan Aykroyd, SNL, circa 1970s

Richard M. Walden is a Los Angeles-based civil rights lawyer who served on active duty in the US Army in 1968-1969.

Hey Six, the writer of said article is a "lefty" - kind of shoots holes in
your little, puny rant. Besides McCain was a devout conservative. We do have
a consolation prize though.....tickets to Trump's 2021 Inauguration, Bwahhahaha!!!


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
On the Leftists newest "Hero", John McCain...

As described in 2008 by the Huffington Post.

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McCain’s “heroism” stems uniquely from the fact that he was an obstreperous prisoner of war unwilling to cooperate with his captors. Undeniably thugs, McCain’s jailers resembled the jailers at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in their sadism and lack of respect for international conventions guaranteeing rights to enemy combatants. That he refused an early release and was not “broken” by his captors does not make him George Washington, Sergeant York or even Audie Murphy.

McCain’s earlier and post-War years were ones of privilege, stature and mischief. He was by his own and all other accounts a cocky, drunken, gambling, whore mongering flyboy whose positions before and after the Vietnam War were arranged for by his family connections. His years as Naval Liaison to the US Senate allowed him to charm and ingratiate himself in the corridors of power which led to a vacant House seat being arranged for him in Arizona, where he had never visited let alone lived.

His family’s DNA is war. The McCain family history of grandfather, father, McCain himself and now his son being at war is essential to understanding his psyche.

He is Sparta and the rest of us are Athens.

A President McCain could well lead to the end of The American Century.

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-walden/et-tu-mccain_b_97988.htm
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Plenty more where this came from. The Leftist's hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I'm just getting started.

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Jack THANK YOU for posting such an illustrative set of posts.

I've become beyond tired from explaining to the people here that the democratic party is now the war and Deep State party (and maybe even an arm of Likud) - in complete contradiction to its earlier principles as a peace party working toward the good of the people. And watching democrats praise McCain was like watching some perverted ritual.

I thought that your set of posts made an unmistakably obvious point.

But I had no idea the people here were so far gone they couldn't grasp such a clear set of facts. Now I know the depths of idiocy those people have been reduced to. It's become unambiguous that rabid, unthinking, virulent partisanship is what people are being propagandized in to, so they can be used against Trump to undo a democratic election.

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Revelation 12.22

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Jack THANK YOU for posting such an illustrative set of posts.

I've become beyond tired from explaining to the people here that the democratic party is now the war and Deep State party (and maybe even an arm of Likud) - in complete contradiction to its earlier principles as a peace party working toward the good of the people. And watching democrats praise McCain was like watching some perverted ritual.

I thought that your set of posts made an unmistakably obvious point.

But I had no idea the people here were so far gone they couldn't grasp such a clear set of facts. Now I know the depths of idiocy those people have been reduced to. It's become unambiguous that rabid, unthinking, virulent partisanship is what people are being propagandized in to, so they can be used against Trump to undo a democratic election.

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I'll sum up the fact that the point of this thread completely went over SGG's head with this single quote he put here:

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Again, quoting a "lefty" writer. What gives?

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Of course. Not only were they all "Lefty writers", but they all came from uber-left-wing site Huffington Post.


As for your last question, in a postscript...

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That was my other point.

I've said on several occasions in here that in order for Leftists to be as hypocritical as they are, they need to have a terrible memory or intentionally forget what they said just yesterday, let alone a decade ago. So I can imagine how much it bothers you that I'm showing you stuff from 10 years ago that was said about McCain when he was running for office against Obama by the very same Leftists that are calling him a Hero today.

Oops. Sorry to bring up Obama here. I know how off limits that is with you. But do realize that he has no blame here other than the fact that he was running for president on the Democratic ticket at the time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Please. Do elaborate on what is amusing about this, because I'm not laughing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The irony of your claim that your little contribution went over my head,
no Six, dead wrong...this is so far beneath me.


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Please. Do elaborate on what is amusing about this, because I'm not laughing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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first off, no matter how you look at this situation there is no irony

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"In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat. It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty
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"Hillary's always surrounded herself with very good people. I think Hillary would do a good job."

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The irony of your claim that your little contribution went over my head,
no Six, dead wrong...this is so far beneath me.


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Please. Do elaborate on what is amusing about this, because I'm not laughing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Well... first off, no matter how you look at this situation there is no irony, so I have no idea what you really mean about that.

Second, you chided me once for quoting a lefty like I wasn't aware of that fact, and then gave me detailed information proving it was a lefty writer. The very next post you say "what gives" when you realize another one was a lefty.

And finally, the main point about this thread was showing just how hypocritical the Left is and giving undeniable evidence of it, and you have yet to even give your opinion about that.


So far, all I've received from you is criticism that was off base because you didn't understand the point of the thread, and then a statement saying that this is beneath you to even talk about it.


I consider the horse led to water. Not my responsibility to see to it that you drink my friend.


Do enjoy those blinders you're wearing. It's a pity if you really don't take some time to understand where I'm coming from. You're one of the only regular lefties on this board that I wouldn't outright call a Leftist. I think it's a shame that you could allow the current political climate to shut your mind so tightly that you aren't even open to looking at things that don't fit into the Leftist's current narrative. Especially when I've just provided so many examples of where the Left were at 10 years ago when I agreed with them on nearly everything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Okay Six, I guess I need to elaborate, as you have requested, otherwise you will think that you "pulled the wool over my eyes" (as the expression goes).

You claim that "lefties" are hypocrites because 10 years ago a couple of journalists wrote damning articles as to McCain's military and personal life,
a criticism that he himself has admitted to. And, as part of this claim, it
is your belief that "lefties" have easily abandoned their beliefs and criticisms of McCain and others like him, thereby exposing their flimsy character flaw, namely being a hypocrite.

First of all, let's forget about the irony. Second, there is a method to my
madness, I chide (as you stated) and said "what gives" because I wanted to know from you directly what you actually wanted to say. I assumed, from your
first four posts (with no commentary on your part as to your reasoning),
that your angle would be criticism of today's "lefties" as hypocrites due
to the aforementioned articles. I did "chide" to spark a conversation as to
your take on the subject. And here we are.

I don't mean to be too harsh, but well, forget that. I find it a bit of a
stretch that you "showed" anything other than your ability to copy and
paste. You offered nothing in the way of underscoring your point that "lefties" are hypocrites. Not one word, until now. So I offer up my opinion.
I totally got your point based upon your posting the articles and knowing q
little about your attitude towards left-leaning thinkers. So I poked a little
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A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him.

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A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him.

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There's so much to unpack here. I will respond in due time, I have to.


SGG

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A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him.

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lol... Do me a favor and give me some info on how many prior high ranking politicians have died in the last 30 years and received more than a mere mention after their passing in the media. Democrat or Republican. It makes no matter.

You'd think that it was JFK passing all over again with the media coverage of McCain's death. The reasons for that are glaringly obvious.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him.

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lol... Do me a favor and give me some info on how many prior high ranking politicians have died in the last 30 years and received more than a mere mention after their passing in the media. Democrat or Republican. It makes no matter.

You'd think that it was JFK passing all over again with the media coverage of McCain's death. The reasons for that are glaringly obvious.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I, too, was a bit puzzled at the length of the send-off. It was like Reagan. They took forever to bury the guy.

I suppose it's just media rewarding a warmonger for making them so rich, and giving them wars to cheerlead.

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since it was one of his few comments made in the RWED that weren't insulting. I'm alright with having different opinions. That's what human beings do.

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I would have thought from my many other recent posts that I was being very clear about showing Leftist hypocrisy by posting those links from trash "news" sites like Huffington Post and Vox 10 years ago as opposed to now.

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I DON'T lump you in with Second and T and G and Reaverfan. I didn't before, and I still don't. That being said, I would appreciate it if you stop associating me with others and calling people my comrades.

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Right. Fuck John McCain. Nothing has changed. He was a garbage human being.

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I'm referring again to the people who work at trash news sites like Huffington Post, Vox and Mother Jones. The "Alex Joneses" of the Left. Again, I make a clear distinction between you and them. I don't do that with others that post here because they mindlessly and rabidly quote anything these types of outfits claim on a daily basis and are completely closed minded to any conversations on the topics. Usually you don't automatically jump to insults, but I have to say it has become more frequent recently and I don't appreciate it much.

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Just being captured doesn't make you a hero. Maybe he did other things during his service that exhibited some hero like characteristics. Maybe while he was in he didn't talk while he was tortured. None of us are going to know the truth. Overpaid and overprivlidged assholes from both sides have equal and opposite things to say about it.

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I really don't give a shit about whether he was a "hero" or not during the war. All of that happened long before I was born. Since I've been old enough to be aware of all things political, he has been a neo-con warhawk piece of shit. That nullifies any hero like qualities he may have once had in his youth.

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Maybe he did. I dunno. Like I said, that was a LONG time ago, and a story about how he one time stood up to a racist old lady and the PR points he won by jumping on the bandwagon and bashing Trump don't make up for all of the horrible decisions he has made in his political career.

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I'm going to separate the solder from the monster he became once he entered the political arena. Thanks for your service, Johnny boy. It is a shame what you became in your old age.

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I just don't understand why we need to take stuff out of context and make up stories about him on a daily basis when there are very legitimate and very provable things we can agree upon and call him on his bullshit.

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I'm going to ask that you do a little real thinking on all of this man. You're one of the reasonable ones. One of many, likely.

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Amen to that. You'll notice, I took out that "joining crazies" crack. I figured that a man who asks not to be labeled and lumped in with others,
would want to do the same, so as to instill some "balance and rational
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Face it, Jack. You got your ass handed to you, yet again.

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Face it, Jack. You got your ass handed to you, yet again.

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I haven't lost an argument in here since January of 2017, bud.

Keep living in that little fantasy world of yours and you're going to end up with a very rude awakening one day.

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Face it, Jack. You got your ass handed to you, yet again.

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I haven't lost an argument in here since January of 2017, bud.

Keep living in that little fantasy world of yours and you're going to end up with a very rude awakening one day.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Dude, you wouldn't last 2 seconds. You're a fucking invalid.

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