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FBI, DOJ To Defy Trump Order; Redactions Planned As Top 'Deep State' Dems Demand Insubordination

Despite President Trump's Monday order for the "immediate declassification" of sensitive materials related to the Russia investigation, "without redaction," the agencies involved are planning to do so anyway, according to Bloomberg, citing three people familiar with the matter.

The Justice Department, FBI and Office of the Director of National Intelligence are going through a methodical review and can’t offer a timeline for finishing, said the people, who weren’t authorized to speak publicly about the sensitive matter. -Bloomberg

Trump ordered the DOJ to release the text messages of former FBI Director James Comey, his deputy Andrew McCabe, now-fired special agent Peter Strzok, former FBI attorney Lisa Page and twice-demoted DOJ official Bruce Ohr.

Also ordered released are specific pages from the FBI's FISA surveillance warrant application on former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, as well as interviews with Ohr.

The DOJ and the FBI are expected to submit proposed redactions to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence - which will prepare a package for Trump to sign off on.

"When the president issues such an order, it triggers a declassification review process that is conducted by various agencies within the intelligence community, in conjunction with the White House counsel, to seek to ensure the safety of America’s national security interests," a Justice Department spokesman said in a statement. "The department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation are already working with the Director of National Intelligence to comply with the president’s order."

The agencies are likely to cite national security concerns over revealing classified "sources and methods" pertaining to the Russia investigation - which will put them in direct conflict with Trump's order. Trump, as president, has the power to override the agencies and declassify material on his own.

Trump's order to release the documents comes after months of requests from GOP lawmakers, while the DOJ has repeatedly denied their requests for more transparency.

The FBI's spy...

According to Bloomberg, the DOJ is interpreting Trump's request to include information about the use of confidential informant (spy) Stephan Halper during the early stages of the Trump-Russia investigation. After taking in over $400,000 from the Obama Pentagon under the auspices of a research contract, Halper befriended and spied on members of the Trump campaign, including aides Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.

Showdown?

Top Congressional Democrats Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff and Mark Warner penned a joint letter to ODNI Director Dan Coates, Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray demanding that the agencies defy President Trump.

In the letter, the lawmakers "express profound alarm" at the decision to "intervene in an ongoing law enforcement investigation that may implicate the President himself or those around him."

"Any decision by your offices to share this material with the President or his lawyers will violate longstanding Department of Justice polices, as well as assurances you have provided to us."

The letter then demands that the agencies brief the Gang of Eight before releasing the materials "to anyone at the White House."

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it will be an amazing day if you ever say anything correct or truthful, you Russian troll piece of shit.

Don't ever come to America. We'll beat your ass.

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Trump said: "I met with the DOJ concerning the declassification of various UNREDACTED documents. They agreed to release them but stated that so doing may have a perceived negative impact on the Russia probe. Also, key Allies’ called to ask not to release. Therefore, the Inspector General has been asked to review these documents on an expedited basis. I believe he will move quickly on this (and hopefully other things which he is looking at). In the end I can always declassify if it proves necessary. Speed is very important to me - and everyone!"

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It really is just amazing how many lies and deceptions and winks and utter BS he can weave into a single tweet. He should teach a class.

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UK Begged Trump Not To Declassify Russia Docs; Cited "Grave Concerns" Over Steele Involvement

The British government "expressed grave concerns" to the US government over the declassification and release of material related to the Trump-Russia investigation, according to the New York Times* President Trump ordered a wide swath of materials "immediately" declassified "without redaction" on Monday, only to change his mind later in the week by allowing the DOJ Inspector General to review the materials first. The Times reports that the UK's concern was over material which "includes direct references to conversations between American law enforcement officials and Christopher Steele," the former MI6 agent who compiled the infamous "Steele Dossier."

The UK's objection, according to former US and British officials, was over revealing Steele's identity in an official document, "regardless of whether he had been named in press reports."

We would note, however, that Steele's name was contained within the Nunes Memo - the House Intelligence Committee's majority opinion in the Trump-Russia case.

Steele also had extensive contacts with DOJ official Bruce Ohr and his wife Nellie, who - along with Steele - was paid by opposition research firm Fusion GPS in the anti-Trump campaign. Trump called for the declassification of FBI notes of interviews with Ohr, which would ostensibly reveal more about his relationship with Steele. Ohr was demoted twice within the Department of Justice for lying about his contacts with Fusion GPS.

Perhaps the Brits are also concerned since much of the espionage performed on the Trump campaign was conducted on UK soil throughout 2016. Recall that Trump aid George Papadopoulos was lured to London in March, 2016, where Maltese professor Joseph Mifsud fed him the rumor that Russia had dirt on Hillary Clinton. It was later at a London bar that Papadopoulos would drunkenly pass the rumor to Australian diplomat Alexander Downer (who Strzok flew to London to meet with).

Also recall that CIA/FBI "informant" (spy) Stefan Halper met with both Carter Page and Papadopoulos in London.

... In total, Halper received over $1 million from the Obama Pentagon for "research," over $400,000 of which was granted before and during the 2016 election season.

In short, it's understandable that the UK would prefer to hide their involvement in the "witch hunt" of Donald Trump since much of the counterintelligence investigation was conducted on UK soil. And if the Brits had knowledge of the operation, it will bolster claims that they meddled in the 2016 US election by assisting what appears to have been a set-up from the start.

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According to a former American official and a former British official, the British government expressed grave concerns to the United States government about the release of classified information. The material includes direct references to conversations between American law enforcement officials and Christopher Steele, the former British spy who compiled a dossier alleging ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Britain’s objection, these former officials said, was over revealing Mr. Steele’s identity in an official document, regardless of whether he had been named in press reports.

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One of the things that a lot of people don't know about is that our CIA works very closely with MI6 (UK intelligence). In fact, if the CIA wants something introduced from a (presumably neutral) third party, they go to MI6 for it.

Not sure if you all recall, but MI6 was where our "intelligence" agencies pointed to when asked where THEY got their intell about Iraqi WMD; the British report called it a "slam dunk".

Not too surprising, then, that it would be MI6 that would be shitting bricks about an upcoming declassification of all of the background documents concerning the Steel "dossier", the FISA warrant, and the communication going on between those entities that cooked it up.

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UK Begged Trump Not To Declassify Russia Docs; Cited "Grave Concerns" Over Steele Involvement

The British government "expressed grave concerns" to the US government over the declassification and release of material related to the Trump-Russia investigation, according to the New York Times* President Trump ordered a wide swath of materials "immediately" declassified "without redaction" on Monday, only to change his mind later in the week by allowing the DOJ Inspector General to review the materials first. The Times reports that the UK's concern was over material which "includes direct references to conversations between American law enforcement officials and Christopher Steele," the former MI6 agent who compiled the infamous "Steele Dossier."

The UK's objection, according to former US and British officials, was over revealing Steele's identity in an official document, "regardless of whether he had been named in press reports."

We would note, however, that Steele's name was contained within the Nunes Memo - the House Intelligence Committee's majority opinion in the Trump-Russia case.

Steele also had extensive contacts with DOJ official Bruce Ohr and his wife Nellie, who - along with Steele - was paid by opposition research firm Fusion GPS in the anti-Trump campaign. Trump called for the declassification of FBI notes of interviews with Ohr, which would ostensibly reveal more about his relationship with Steele. Ohr was demoted twice within the Department of Justice for lying about his contacts with Fusion GPS.

Perhaps the Brits are also concerned since much of the espionage performed on the Trump campaign was conducted on UK soil throughout 2016. Recall that Trump aid George Papadopoulos was lured to London in March, 2016, where Maltese professor Joseph Mifsud fed him the rumor that Russia had dirt on Hillary Clinton. It was later at a London bar that Papadopoulos would drunkenly pass the rumor to Australian diplomat Alexander Downer (who Strzok flew to London to meet with).

Also recall that CIA/FBI "informant" (spy) Stefan Halper met with both Carter Page and Papadopoulos in London.

... In total, Halper received over $1 million from the Obama Pentagon for "research," over $400,000 of which was granted before and during the 2016 election season.

In short, it's understandable that the UK would prefer to hide their involvement in the "witch hunt" of Donald Trump since much of the counterintelligence investigation was conducted on UK soil. And if the Brits had knowledge of the operation, it will bolster claims that they meddled in the 2016 US election by assisting what appears to have been a set-up from the start.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-23/uk-begged-trump-not-declassi
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According to a former American official and a former British official, the British government expressed grave concerns to the United States government about the release of classified information. The material includes direct references to conversations between American law enforcement officials and Christopher Steele, the former British spy who compiled a dossier alleging ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Britain’s objection, these former officials said, was over revealing Mr. Steele’s identity in an official document, regardless of whether he had been named in press reports.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/trump-classification-ru
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Do you interpret any sensible reason for Trump to honor the UK request to not unveil their labors to victimise Trump?

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Rosenstein Proposed Secretly Recording Trump, Invoking 25th Amendment
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-21/rosenstein-suggested-secretl
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Exclusive: Rod Rosenstein is resigning (Axios)

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has verbally resigned to Chief of Staff John Kelly in anticipation of being fired by President Trump, according to a source with direct knowledge. Per a second source with direct knowledge: “He’s expecting to be fired,” so he plans to step down.

Background: Rosenstein talked last year about invoking the 25th Amendment and wearing a wire during Trump meetings, the N.Y. Times' Adam Goldman and Michael S. Schmidt reported last week. He denied both allegations.]/quote]
https://www.axios.com/rod-rosenstein-resign-justice-department-trump-c
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Rod Rosenstein Resigns As Deputy Attorney General

After Friday night's blockbuster NYT report in which, according to Andrew McCabe's personal files, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein offered to record President Trump (whether in jest or not) and proposed invoking Article 25, speculation has intensified that President Trump may fire Rosenstein imminently. And while many of Trump's allies have urged caution, fearing a trap, moments ago Axios reported that Rosenstein has decided to preempt that step by verbally resigning to Chief of Staff John Kelly in anticipation of being fired by President Trump, according to a source with direct knowledge.

Within minutes of Axios' report hitting the tape, several other media organizations (including ABC, AP ad Bloomberg) piled on, saying Rosenstein was on his way to the White House to be fired.

Per a source close to Rosenstein: "He’s expecting to be fired," so he plans to step down.

The exact timing of the resignation is unclear, but he isn’t expected to be in job after Monday, according to another person familiar with the matter. The move comes after reports that Rosenstein suggested to colleagues last year that he would secretly record conversations with President Donald Trump.

However, as the NYT clarified, it wasn't immediately clear whether Rosenstein was going to resign, or if he was heading to the White House expecting to be fired. Complicating matters further, MSNBC is reporting that Rosenstein will not resign, as he will "have" to be fired.

It's worth pointing out that Trump is in New York City for the UN General Assembly. And while Bloomberg reported that Rosenstein's resignation letter had been accepted, the NYT said it wasn't clear whether Trump would even accept Rosie's resignation so close to the mid-term elections, which would in effect force the Deputy AG to quit, or reluctantly stay on.

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Zero hedge is just pro-Russian propaganda.
https://www.quora.com/Is-Zerohedge-com-anti-American-propaganda

You might get more respect if you tried to support your nonsense with legitimate sources.

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Yep, so true.

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You might get more respect if you tried to support your nonsense with legitimate sources.- SHITHITTHE

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I don't pay much attention to what Russian trolls post.

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I don't pay much attention to what Russian trolls post.

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I LOVE how you so consistently troll without evidence, va-JJ.

But then, you and your ilk never seem to even know what 'evidence' is.

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The problem you have kiki is that while I was locked out of my account I posted as JJ and told everyone with the fist and many subsequent posts who I was and what was going on.

Oops, kiki's caught in another misleading post. What is it with you and some others here breaking out in a rash whenever the truth is posted? OH I forgot, I 'm dealing with a troll.

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The problem you have kiki is that while I was locked out of my account I posted as JJ and told everyone with the fist and many subsequent posts who I was and what was going on.

Oops, kiki's caught in another misleading post. What is it with you and some others here breaking out in a rash whenever the truth is posted? OH I forgot, I 'm dealing with a troll.

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The problem you have kiki is that while I was locked out of my account I posted as JJ and told everyone with the fist and many subsequent posts who I was and what was going on.

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So here you are THUGGER - or is it va-JJ, or T, or THG - did I miss any? ... but holy jeez - how MANY times were you locked out of your account?

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I did have a problem for a brief period but was upfront with everyone. Again, who do you think sees this that doesn't know all the facts. Are you that stupid? There's only a handful of us who post here. My friends and you russian trolls. It's really sad how much you need to lash out as your posts get picked apart here.

I think that's funny and gratifying truth be told. Do you find that funny?

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The problem you have kiki is that while I was locked out of my account I posted as JJ and told everyone with the fist and many subsequent posts who I was and what was going on.

Oops, kiki's caught in another misleading post. What is it with you and some others here breaking out in a rash whenever the truth is posted? OH I forgot, I 'm dealing with a troll.

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So here you are THUGGER - or is it va-JJ, or T, or THG - did I miss any? ... but holy jeez - how MANY times were you locked out of your account?

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I did have a problem for a brief period but was upfront with everyone. Again, who do you think sees this that doesn't know all the facts. Are you that stupid? There's only a handful of us who post here. My friends and you russian trolls. It's really sad how much you need to lash out as your posts get picked apart here.

I think that's funny and gratifying truth be told. Do you find that funny?

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The problem you have kiki is that while I was locked out of my account I posted as JJ and told everyone with the fist and many subsequent posts who I was and what was going on.

Oops, kiki's caught in another misleading post. What is it with you and some others here breaking out in a rash whenever the truth is posted? OH I forgot, I 'm dealing with a troll.

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So here you are THUGGER - or is it va-JJ, or T, or THG - did I miss any? ... but holy jeez - how MANY times were you locked out of your account?

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I did have a problem for a brief period but was upfront with everyone. Again, who do you think sees this that doesn't know all the facts. Are you that stupid? There's only a handful of us who post here. My friends and you russian trolls. It's really sad how much you need to lash out as your posts get picked apart here.

I think that's funny and gratifying truth be told. Do you find that funny?

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Get off your high horse. You outright accused me of sockpuppetry with my 6ixStringJoker name which was obviously me, and which I stated for everybody to see why I had done it before I posted anything.

Your four or five different names you've had recently do seem kind of excessive and annoying, but there's no denying any of them are you.

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No dummy I did not. I knew from the get go what was happening. And as I did, you tried to keep as true to your handle as possible and you talked about it.

There is no way Jack I've ever called you a sockpuppet. A moron, dummy, perv and other things sure, but never a puppet. Whether you'll admit that or not is of no importance to me.


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Axios Issues Critical "Clarification" To Rosenstein Resignation Report
Note for readers: I regret the way I wrote this morning's version of the story. By saying Rosenstein had "verbally resigned" to Kelly rather than "offered his resignation," I conveyed a certainty that this fluid situation didn’t deserve. It’s an important nuance, and I regret the wording.

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Looks like Axios got it wrong and ZH got it right:

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Axios Issues Critical "Clarification" To Rosenstein Resignation Report
Note for readers: I regret the way I wrote this morning's version of the story. By saying Rosenstein had "verbally resigned" to Kelly rather than "offered his resignation," I conveyed a certainty that this fluid situation didn’t deserve. It’s an important nuance, and I regret the wording.

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Schiff: There is legal precedent for impeaching sitting officials over prior criminal conduct
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Top FBI Lawyer Flips: Russia Probe Was Handled In "Abnormal Fashion" And Rife With "Political Bias"

ames Baker, a former top FBI lawyer, told congressional investigators on Wednesday that the Russia probe was handled in an "abnormal fashion" and was rife with "political bias" according to Fox News, citing two Republican lawmakers present for the closed-door deposition.

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Top FBI Lawyer Flips: Russia Probe Was Handled In "Abnormal Fashion" And Rife With "Political Bias"

ames Baker, a former top FBI lawyer, told congressional investigators on Wednesday that the Russia probe was handled in an "abnormal fashion" and was rife with "political bias" according to Fox News, citing two Republican lawmakers present for the closed-door deposition.

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What happened?
Did the Declassified Documents release occur?
Will Rosie be a Lame Duck biotch?

Did everything slip past?
Did Shifty Schiff recruit Floozy-Ford to provide him cover in the news cycle? Is she his constituent? Her lifelong deteriorating mental health certainly qualities her to be in his League.

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Top FBI Lawyer Flips: Russia Probe Was Handled In "Abnormal Fashion" And Rife With "Political Bias"

ames Baker, a former top FBI lawyer, told congressional investigators on Wednesday that the Russia probe was handled in an "abnormal fashion" and was rife with "political bias" according to Fox News, citing two Republican lawmakers present for the closed-door deposition.

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I still haven't heard what happened with this. When I get time, must investigate.

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