Chump IS a Rage Troll by WISHIMAY

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Chump IS a Rage Troll

POSTED BY: WISHIMAY
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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:23 PM

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/anger-in-america-trumpism-
incivility.html

Imperfect article has perfect point. I get that she had the worst day ever, but I've read it three times and I'm still not sure that story translates in regards to politics well.

BTW, I've also had the "askew elbow rub", the "side slide" and the "oops, sorry wasn't watching where I was walking" pervs. I was never warned by my mother, but my kid has been warned to knock the nards off anyone that tries it... Pervs have been warned.

"This is an old tactic: drive people crazy, then call them so. As projects of government go, this one is as familiar as it is contemptible. He wants to make his followers feel threatened. To achieve this, he needs his opponents to seem irrational. So he sets about making them angry.
He insults them, railroads them, calls people protesting for justice liars and profit-seekers even as he openly enriches his friends. He gives them offensive nicknames and mocks their pain for fun, and to get them to lose control. He’s doing this in plain sight—it’s pretty obvious why people are angry—but his goal is to make their reaction look inexplicable, beyond the pale. After leading angry crowds to yell abuse at anyone he points to, he turns around and marvels at how irrational and dangerous his targets are."

"As tactics go, this one is dumb and transparent, but it’s worth describing it because it works. It works a lot. Trump is not a genius. But he instinctively understands the dynamic of provoking and then delegitimizing someone else’s pain. As Adam Serwer wrote, he’s energized by the suffering he causes others and—secondarily—by the bond that ritualized cruelty forges with his base, which has been connected by fear of others. From Trump’s perspective, it’s kind of fun that people feel compassion for the families he separated. It’s delightful that women are worried about rights he has expressly said he wanted to take from them. And, after insulting and belittling people he’s supposed to be governing, he enjoys acting surprised that they mind."

"It’s a silly and ugly game, but it’s the only true rule of Trumpism: be the sorest winner imaginable. Aspire to nothing but power and status. Hold no principle sacred. Withhold justice and insult those who object. Yes, the effects of this are predictable. It doesn’t take a genius of social engineering to be the “why are you hitting yourself?” guy. All it takes is a willingness to be him."

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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Yup. That's what's happening.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:19 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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... insults them, railroads them, calls people protesting for justice liars ... gives them offensive nicknames and mocks their pain for fun, and to get them to lose control. He’s doing this in plain sight

WOW! That sounds like a lot of people here! How many times have KIKI and I been called "Russian trolls" and many other names for trying to have a rational discussion? How many times has SIX been called a "Nazi"? Who is it who thinks it's OK to punch random people because he thinks they "deserve it"? Who was it, again, that called half of the voting public "deplorables? WISHY, how many times have YOU name-called?

People are waaay too quick to escalate; it seems to be a common problem lately, and not just limited to people of one political party.

As far as TRUMP is concerned ... would you prefer someone who claims to "feel your pain" while they take away benefits from the poor and give them to the wealthy? Or someone who speaks in soothing tones of peace while they kill abroad?

And what do you suppose is happening to Trump? A LOT of baseless accusations are being flung at him. If I were Trump, I sure wouldn't mind needling my detractors once in a while; his response is a pale shadow of what's been heaped on him. Now, tell me that isn't true.

Seems like people should LOOK IN THE FUCKING MIRROR ONCE IN A WHILE instead of thinking of themselves as poor helpless innocent victims all of the time. Don't you think that would be helpful?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 3:01 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
WOW! That sounds like a lot of people here! How many times have KIKI and I been called "Russian trolls" and many other names for trying to have a rational discussion?
How many times has SIX been called a "Nazi"? Who is it who thinks it's OK to punch random people because he thinks they "deserve it"? Who was it, again, that called half of the voting public "deplorables? WISHY, how many times have YOU name-called?

People are waaay too quick to escalate; it seems to be a common problem lately, and not just limited to people of one political party.

You're so innocent.

You've defamed and insulted as much as anyone. Except maybe Kiki.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
As far as TRUMP is concerned ... would you prefer someone who claims to "feel your pain" while they take away benefits from the poor and give them to the wealthy? Or someone who speaks in soothing tones of peace while they kill abroad?

If your standard of behavior for the President is the same as it is for anonymous people on a social forum... then your tiny head is way, way up your Hoover.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And what do you suppose is happening to Trump? A LOT of baseless accusations are being flung at him. If I were Trump, I sure wouldn't mind needling my detractors once in a while; his response is a pale shadow of what's been heaped on him. Now, tell me that isn't true.

That isn't true. What are all of these A LOT of baseless accusations? I can't think of any that aren't based on some pretty obvious facts. Certainly you have no problem with people calling him a lying sack of sh*t?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Seems like people should LOOK IN THE FUCKING MIRROR ONCE IN A WHILE instead of thinking of themselves as poor helpless innocent victims all of the time. Don't you think that would be helpful?

*pats poor lil SIGGY on the head* now, now, things will be better in the morning.

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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 3:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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*pats poor lil SIGGY on the head* now, now, things will be better in the morning.

Well, you sure got that "needling" thing down to an art! You're not too bad at name-calling, either!

There comes a point, WISHY, when "defense" just veers over the line into offensiveness, and I think you've got that down to an art too! Not that YOU'D ever admit it, tho!

But I'm sure you have your "reasons".

Done here.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:32 PM

REAVERFAN

Russian troll insults people with abandon, then calls for civility.

Sorry, comrade, that ship has sailed.

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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:45 PM

REAVERFAN

I can think of another historical figure who constantly held rallies and enraged his followers with fear and hatred of certain "others."

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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

You don't know what the word civility means.

Stop calling American citizens that you don't agree with Russians.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:18 PM

WISHIMAY

Way to stay on topic, Sig....and then make it all about you.

Nothing wrong with you at all

I see she's swung back around to defending Chump again...Got new marching orders?

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:05 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I think there are a LOT of rage-trolls around, even here, on this website, where they're all democrats.

In the meantime, I'll be paying attention to other stuff that's actually important.

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:47 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

I don't know how many times I was given the old "bait and switch" there RF.
Insult and ridicule followed by "wait...let's be civil."

Trouble is, I fell for it.

sgg

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Russian troll insults people with abandon, then calls for civility.

Sorry, comrade, that ship has sailed.

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 5:06 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I've remained civil with you.

Then again, I don't have 3 to 5 people accusing me of being a Russian every single day too.

Sure... RF calls me a Nazi from time to time, but it's a well known fact that RF is a socalist zealot and an idiot to boot, so we just laugh at him.

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I don't know how many times I was given the old "bait and switch" there RF.
Insult and ridicule followed by "wait...let's be civil."

Trouble is, I fell for it.

sgg

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Russian troll insults people with abandon, then calls for civility.

Sorry, comrade, that ship has sailed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 10:28 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
I don't know how many times I was given the old "bait and switch" there RF.
Insult and ridicule followed by "wait...let's be civil."

Trouble is, I fell for it.

If you think that's what's going here here, then you haven't been paying attention. I've attempted to get people into discussions about TOPICS that matter ...

What are America's interests?
How a society is like an organism
How do we revive the economy, and what should it look like
The Deep State, and its various machinations
How the American oligarchy shapes people's assumptions about "how people are" (A Century of Self")
Banking and the financial crisis
What ails dairy cows*
Global warming
Anti-war
Global climate change

... and other TOPICS, too numerous to name, and what do I get in return? INSULTS. Day after day. I'm called a "Russian troll" at least several times a day, in addition to being called a lot of other names. REAVERFAN and THUGR? That is LITERALLY the only thing that they post, and GSTRING comes in a close second. And then we have the hatemaster herself posting about hate!

It got so bad, may I remind you, that one entire thread was removed from this board and sent to TROLL COUNTRY by a webmaster who otherwise hardly interferes anywhere.

So.

Take a good look around this forum, SHINY, and attempt to be at least a little objective. I'm MORE THAN WILLING TO BE CIVIL to people who are civil to me. I take a lot more insults than give. But I'm not a saint, I'm not fucking-Jesus-on-a-cross, willing to die for your sins.

So, if YOU want to be civil, let's start this again. If I find your comments or posts out of line, I'll let you know without hitting back. If you find the same, you let ME know. We will find each others' boundaries and we can learn to avoid them. If I find that you're consistently not willing to back off, it's back to the old two-by-four mode of communication. I think this can work. It's up to you to decide if you want to continue being uncivil or not.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 10:39 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
I don't know how many times I was given the old "bait and switch" there RF.
Insult and ridicule followed by "wait...let's be civil."

Trouble is, I fell for it.
If you think that's what's going here here, then you haven't been paying attention. I've attempted to get people into discussions about TOPICS that matter ...

What are America's interests?
How a society is like an organism
How do we revive the economy, and what should it look like
The Deep State, and its various machinations
How the American oligarchy shapes people's assumptions about "how people are" (A Century of Self")
Banking and the financial crisis
What ails dairy cows*
Global warming
Anti-war
Global climate change

... and other TOPICS, too numerous to name, and what do I get in return? INSULTS. Day after day. I'm called a "Russian troll" at least several times a day, in addition to being called a lot of other names. REAVERFAN and THUGR? That is LITERALLY the only thing that they post, and GSTRING comes in a close second. And then we have the hatemaster herself posting about hate!

It got so bad, may I remind you, that one entire thread was removed from this board and sent to TROLL COUNTRY by a webmaster who otherwise hardly interferes anywhere.

So.

Take a good look around this forum, SHINY, and attempt to be at least a little objective. I'm MORE THAN WILLING TO BE CIVIL to people who are civil to me. I take a lot more insults than give. But I'm not a saint, I'm not fucking-Jesus-on-a-cross, willing to die for your sins.

So, if YOU want to be civil, let's start this again. If I find your comments or posts out of line, I'll let you know without hitting back. If you find the same, you let ME know. We will find each others' boundaries and we can learn to avoid them. If I find that you're consistently not willing to back off, it's back to the old two-by-four mode of communication. I think this can work. It's up to you to decide if you want to continue being uncivil or not.

^ You are one well practiced, compulsive liar. What was the name of that guy that wrote about his drug addiction and he went on Oprah and spilled his guts and he was all over media coverage about his amazing story? It was gripping stuff. And then we found out he lied about it all.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2006/sep/15/usa.world

"When Oprah Winfrey raved about James Frey's memoir of his life as a drug addict, A Million Little Pieces, the book became a publishing sensation. Then it emerged that he had made large chunks of it up - and America was outraged."

"Lying became part of my life. I lied if I needed to lie to get something or get out of something" - James Frey, A Million Little Pieces

That's who you remind me of. And, like Wish said, attention whore/drama queen to the max.

"Discussion?"

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 10:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
^ You are one well practiced, compulsive liar. - GSTRING

See what I mean, SHINY?

Everything I posted was 100% true as far as I know, and as objectively factual as I can make it.

A simple survey should surely answer the question about WHO POSTS WHAT.
Starting with the above post.

*****

But hey, GSTRING, thanks for staying true to form and making my point for me! However, if you want to reach a detente, we can start the process that I proposed to SHINY. I'll start by calling you "CC".

It's up to you. Let me know.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:20 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

Originally whined by SIGNYM:
See what I mean, SHINY?
Everything I posted was 100% true as far as I know, and as objectively factual as I can make it. < BULLSHIT
If you think that's what's going here here, then you haven't been paying attention. I've attempted to get people into discussions about TOPICS that matter ...

Uh-huh...

SIGGY: What are America's interests?
- I did that one.

SIGGY: How a society is like an organism
- Don't recall

SIGGY: How do we revive the economy, and what should it look like
- Don't recall

SIGGY: The Deep State, and its various machinations
- we have all done that one

SIGGY: How the American oligarchy shapes people's assumptions about "how people are" (A Century of Self")
- saw that from second. Boring, obvious, ignored.

SIGGY: Banking and the financial crisis
- whatever, not a "banking" person

SIGGY: What ails dairy cows*
- not interested

SIGGY: Global warming
- I remember asking you about Trump and global warming and you ignored it

SIGGY: Anti-war
- more, what about Trump?"

SIGGY: Global climate change
- is that like global warming?

So, we have discussed and you suck at it - sorry your "memory" is so faulty.

SIGGY: I'm called a "Russian troll" at least several times a day, in addition to being called a lot of other names.
- that's a lie.

SIGGY: REAVERFAN and THUGR? That is LITERALLY the only thing that they post, and GSTRING comes in a close second.
- that's a lie. Me personally, I have said I have no idea if you're Russian but you sure do promote the same message as one.

SIGGY: It got so bad, may I remind you, that one entire thread was removed from this board and sent to TROLL COUNTRY by a webmaster who otherwise hardly interferes anywhere.
- that's a lie. The thread was about Russian Trolls and was a repost of a WaPo article about a Russian troll farm. I said nothing about either you or Kiki. And then you went all spittle rage - the worst insults were from you. Should I repost them? I have done that before - maybe you need a refresher?

more SIGGY BlahBlah: "Take a good look around this forum, SHINY, and attempt to be at least a little objective. I'm MORE THAN WILLING TO BE CIVIL to people who are civil to me. I take a lot more insults than give. But I'm not a saint, I'm not fucking-Jesus-on-a-cross, willing to die for your sins.

So, if YOU want to be civil, let's start this again. If I find your comments or posts out of line, I'll let you know without hitting back. If you find the same, you let ME know. We will find each others' boundaries and we can learn to avoid them. If I find that you're consistently not willing to back off, it's back to the old two-by-four mode of communication. I think this can work. It's up to you to decide if you want to continue being uncivil or not. "

Poor dear! So unfair! How do you manage?

Hey! What about all my discussions you don't want to have??? Just in this thread alone you have dodged and run from a couple... waaaaaa.... what about ME????

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:53 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

GSTRING, I take it you don't want to be civil then.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:01 PM

THG

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:

In the meantime, I'll be paying attention to other stuff that's actually important.

Mueller assembles team of cooperators in Russian probe

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/411938-mueller-assembles-
team-of-cooperators-in-russian-probe

Me too, tick tock

T

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:45 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
GSTRING, I take it you don't want to be civil then.

SIGHOLE: I asked you some simple questions and you ignored them - who's not being civil?

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:30 PM

WISHIMAY

It occurs to me that she's doing the same thing Chump is...

"This is an old tactic: drive people crazy, then call them so." (using various repetitive pet names)

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 3:40 PM

THG

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

It occurs to me that she's doing the same thing Chump is...

"This is an old tactic: drive people crazy, then call them so." (using various repetitive pet names)

Sig is a wack job wish through and through.

T

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Thursday, October 18, 2018 5:21 PM

WISHIMAY

I know, but like the article says NOT to do, I keep trying to figure out what the point is.

Why screw with people HERE, what does it accomplish?

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